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nferyn:
So when does the potentia[/b]l become actual?

When sentience kicks in. This is around 29 weeks.

Until 29 weeks,its merely a [b]potential ? The irony is that the biggest obstacle to this "potential" materialising is the abortionist

nferyn:
Already living human beings have full sentience, aspirations, hopes and dreams and are in the full capacity themselves to decide whether or not their life is worth living. That's nobody else's choice but theirs, a fetus is not exactly in the same position.

That is why we must terminate it!We know if we left it alone,there is a 99.9% chance it will acquire all the above(aspirations,hopes,dreams,sentience,e.t.c)so we are fully justified in artificially intervening so as to stop what,if the natural process was not interfered with,would most likely lead to a fully formed human.

nferyn:
Now, it would be a good thing if those so obsessed with protecting life (e.g. the Schiavo case in the US) would spend only 10% of the resources and efforts they invest in that protection [/i]on bettering the quality of life of those already living. They've got their priorities all mixed up.

One could make the same facile comment about pro-terminators.If they spent 10% of their resources and efforts on the living instead of promoting  the necrotisation of foetuses,things would be better.

nferyn:
You are just trotting out the old "Womans right to choose" line which is not really a question of rights and consequences of all involved.
The ultimate arbiter is the woman, as nobody can force her to compromise the integrity of her body, so yes, I'm towing the [i]old "Woman's right to choose line", but only in a specific set of circumstances for late term abortions. Before sentience kicks in, it's nobody's business but hers.

This is mantric piffle.Since its simply "the integrity of her body",why not terminate at whatever term?  The "integrity of her body" does not include,the prescence in the womb,of an entity which but for human intervention,will most likely materialise into human life

nferyn:
Do I need to spell this out? What positive consequences could killing an already born handicapped person possibly have? In the case of abortion, the consequences are clear: having a child at a moment or under circumstances that are less than ideal, does have an immediate negative effect on the quality of life, physical integrity and opportunities of the woman

You could do better.A negative effect on the "quality of life,physical integrity and opportunities of a woman" could hardly be sufficient justification for terminating a domestic pet not to talk of a "potential" human.
Isn't well documented that abortion itself can have the above negative consequences for a woman anyway?


The reality is that since abortion was legalised in the U.K(1964),it has doubled in numbers since the 70s.The argument in the U.K by pro-abortionists was that abortions will be reduced,or at least stabilised, not increased.Vindication!

Interesting take on Creationism -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I

bluenubian:
woah i need updates muki, so wa happen?

The guy no dey do the biz for bed,according to J-girl,so the J-girl take style dey look for another man.

Her new man is a fellow NairaLander-Akinwumni.Since then,Debosky(Speedy Gonzalez) has been too ashamed to come on NairaLand

How old was the Goat? It might be a case of two consenting adults

Let them marry! I hope they haven't divorced

mukina2:
i hope Liverpool deals with you guys

We are already dealing with Liverpool,we just beat them at Anfield a couple of hours ago 

We will finish the job in the 2nd leg at Old Trafford

For me, the only responsibility Companies owe society is to ensure that the companies are run efficiently and without impropriety.I would be unhappy,as a shareholder,to hear that company funds are being used for charity.

Well run companies create jobs,foster economic growth,avail the public with cost effective and quality products and pay taxes to the Govt.That is sufficient discharge of their responsibility

Any suggestion that Companies owe a responsibility to do charity is counterproductive and in the long term not in the interest of society

@Muki

I was watching the FA Youth Cup Final and I didn't see your team.I thought you guys have the best youth policy in the world .We even defeated your team in the Semis

Ist leg-Anfield-FA Youth Cup Final

LIVERPOOL 1 MAN UTD 2

LIVERPOOL 1 MANCHESTER UTD 2

Final result at Anfield-First Leg of Youth FA Cup Final

atiku07:
[size=8pt]wetin be ya own u wey dey germany wey no sabi anything come dey talk say who tell am say na him win well from all indication it is oshiomole that actually won that election well i think obasanjo is thinking properly because this is not the end of the whole poilty. saturday is still comming and then he will see the true colour of the nigerians i swear.

and i think oshiomole is in the right cause so let him fire on then we shall know who is who may be na we get nigeria abi na obj

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He will tell you that he visits Nigeria regularly and knows what is going on

@Man Utd Fans

We have FA Youth Cup Final match against Liverpool at 6:45 GMT

I saw this interesting article-http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0416/p01s04-usec.html?page=1

Even in a nation famed for its free market economy,52% of Americans receive income from the Govt

[quote author=j-girl link=topic=49076.msg1043222#msg1043222 date=1176729957]Ahhhhhhhh razorr, na wa for you. . . . .
4play is lying about that. Debosky has no sexual problems and is probably okay[/quote]Probably okay?This does not sound like a ringing endorsement.I would be disappointed if my girl described my prowess as "probably okay"

It is obvious that something is wrong with this relationship

Staff and agencies
Monday April 16, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

Manchester United have dominated the Premiership for most of the season and today three of their players - Cristiano Ronaldo, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes - were also named on the shortlist for the Professional Footballers' Association Player of the Year award.

Last year's winner Steven Gerrard, Chelsea striker Didier Drogba and Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas complete the list of six contenders for the award, which will be presented on April 22.




[url]http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2058340,00.html[/url]

The Blackburn game pain me.Pedersen missed a glorious opportunity.

I still think we are a better side than Chelski.Hopefully,by that time,Rio,Neville,Saha and O'Shea will be back.

Our pace and movement will be hard for them to compete with

mukina2:
J Girl
so now . you dey take style deny my bro abi?

The thing shock me o I thought they were in love

The guy dey hide He sabi say "man pass man"

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-49076.0.html#msg1041822[url][/url]

I don start another thread for this issue-https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-49076.0.html#msg1041822

Go there and air your views

In a remarkable and brazen act of one-upmanship,a certain Akinwumni has snatched from Debosky,the love of his life-J-Girl.

Debosky and J-Girl had been deeply in love for ages and had concluded plans for marriage.I was contacted on my availability to act as best man at the wedding.It seems this love affair has turned sour.

A certain Akinwumni has caught the eye of J-Girl and has led her to reconsider her plans for marriage to Debosky.She told me that this Akin happens to be her "dream man".I was shocked because I thought she loved Debosky.

On further enquiries,she revealed that Debosky was inadequate in bed and had failed to "satisfy her sexual needs"  She was tired of his "Speedy Gonzalez Love Making" which never lasted more than 60 seconds.

She has now fallen for another NairaLander-Akinwumni- and I am worried about the implications for my friend-Debosky.He has a troubled mental history .

Can anyone advice on this issue.Your input will be highly appreciated 

Una want make I start a new thread for una?  

CCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,

The political description that
fits you best is,

.

CONSERVATIVE

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 30%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.

Surprise!Surprise!I was described as a conservative

debosky:
title and positional crazy Nigerians will do anything to make themselves feel more self-important, that I feel is the crux of the matter here, everybody wants to be head/chairman/CEO or Eze/Oba of something, even if its of a dingy hut in the middle of nowhere.

let them go and find better things to do with their time. Eze Ndigbo (elect) my foot.

You know sabi say Seun don declare me the THE GRAND EMPEROR OF NAIRALAND ?

@Akinwumni

You wicked o.Debosky never recover from the catastrophic season Arse-anal has been through,you wan come snatch his girl

How far for the Julius Agwu guy ?

@Vieira

Kay go discipline somebody on April the 20th The man go do someone wetin Man Utd do Roma recently

akinwunmi:
^{Still checking the link but gotta say his mind}

@4 play
Ah! u sure say we need owen.D guy man never play since oooo.Newcastle coach tlk say him go sell Martins since Owen don dey recover.Me i go prefer Martins ^{forget sentiments}

While I would like a younger striker- like  Hunterlaar of Ajax-Owen would be quite a snip at £12 million.He is still for me one of the best strikers in the world.

I heard he has returned to great physical condition  and at the age of 28,he still has 2 or 3 years in him.

[quote author=Dr. Dre link=topic=17491.msg1040634#msg1040634 date=1176639340]@ 4 Play
Muki ran away to bed just before you came in during the night
It was as if she knew you were coming to send her to bed[/quote]I told her to be going to bed early to help her with her state of mind.She has been a very naughty girl recently and I intend to discipline her