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SportsRe: Burkina Faso Vs Ghana - AFCON 2013 - (3 - 2) On Pens On 6th Feb 2013 by 4Play(m): 9:56pm On Feb 06, 2013
This ref is a massive fraud! angry
PoliticsRe: All Progressive Congress (APC) Party: ANPP, CPC, ACN And APGA Finally Merged by 4Play(m): 8:04pm On Feb 06, 2013
So what policies unite these disparate parties. . what's their unifying ideology other than a vehicle or quest for power?
PoliticsRe: Northern Senators Meet Over Igbo Domination In Army by 4Play(m): 10:50pm On Feb 04, 2013
olufunmibi: Most of you guys on nairaland politics section are so infantile in your reasoning and many of your posts betray sound use of logic, I hope Seun and those Mods in charge of this politics section know that there is an Emergency in Nairaland politics section. This online space has turned to an online beer palour where people vomit thrash and revel in stupid ethnic sentiments instead of addressing the merit of issues. Nairaland Politics was not like this when I started visiting in 2006! Moderators! Please do something on time.
This is what generates internet traffic for a website designed for Nigerians. Are you expecting serious intellectual discourse?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 4Play(m): 10:14pm On Feb 04, 2013
[quote author=Mr_TA]I would play, Jones behind Ando and Clev while Carrick is out injured.[/quote]A 3 man central midfield of Anderson, Cleverley and Kagawa will do the trick if Carrick is out. It doesn't offer much protection to the defence but I'm not sure that Carrick offered much protection in the first place.

4-3-3 will be our best bet against Madrid - (4)Evra, Vidic, Rio & Rafael; (3)Ando, Cleverley & Kagawa; (3) Rooney, RVP & Welbeck.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by 4Play(m): 10:06pm On Feb 04, 2013
I see 8 seasons of winning f**k all hasn't tempered these Gunners' self-delusion. Schalke v Arsenal was like Jimmy Saville in a girls' school...Schalke had their way with them. Imagine what Bayern will do to these Europa league-destined infants.
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran's Space Monkey Truimpt Exposed As Fake! by 4Play(m): 9:49pm On Feb 04, 2013
Iran is a third world country masquerading as a first world military power.
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran Unveils Homemade Stealth Fighter Jet (Pictures & Video) by 4Play(m): 9:42pm On Feb 04, 2013
It's not clear that the plane can even fly. This is the same country that brought us photo-shopped missile launches

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2008/jul/10/iranianmissiletestsnotwhat

http://www.businessinsider.com/irans-new-qaher-313-new-stealth-jet-cant-fly-2013-2#the-flying-aircraft-shown-in-the-video-is-a-radio-controlled-model-6

If they have all these weaponry, I don't expect to hear a pip of complaint from anyone in the event they are bombed by Israel or the US. . .after all, they're a military superpower with space launches and stealth fighters.
CrimeMan Who Molested And Tortured His Five-year-old Daughter To Death Is Freed by 4Play(op): 8:01pm On Feb 04, 2013
A Saudi preacher who tortured his five-year-old daughter to death has been released after agreeing to pay 'blood money', activists said.

Lama al-Ghamdi died in October having suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and left arm, extensive bruising and burns.

The child had also been repeatedly raped and the burned.
Lama suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and back, bruising and burns. She had been raped repeatedly and died of her injuries in October

Lama suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and back, bruising and burns. She had been raped repeatedly and died of her injuries in October

Her father Fayhan al-Ghamdi, a prominent Islamist preacher who regularly appears on television in Saudi Arabia, served only a few months in jail despite admitting having used a cane and cables to inflict the injuries.

Activists from the group Women to Drive said the preacher had doubted Lama's virginity and had her checked up by a medic.

Randa al-Kaleeb, a social worker from the hospital where Lama was admitted, said the girl's back was broken and that she had been repeatedly raped.

Her injuries were then burned.

Rather than the death penalty or a long prison sentence, the judge in the case ruled the prosecution could only seek 'blood money', according to activists.

The money is compensation for the next of kin under Islamic law.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273171/Fayhan-al-Ghamdi-raped-tortured-daughter-5-death-escapes-light-sentence.html#axzz2JxTPY900
TravelRe: When Going Back To Nigeria Is A Death Sentence: The Story Of Rose Akhalu by 4Play(op): 9:58pm On Jan 26, 2013
Just came across another
In 2009, Onikosi was diagnosed with hepatitis B. Although I was still at Sussex, and in regular contact with him, he never told me this. Neither did I know that two of his brothers, Hanuna and Kolade, had died of the same illness at home in Nigeria. Despite the fact that the chronic liver condition suffered by Onikosi and his brothers, causes debilitating symptoms such as sickness, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, itchy skin, weakness of the limbs, loss of appetite, constipation leading to severe painful bleeding and discomfort over the liver area and, if untreated, leads very quickly to the loss of life, Onikosi seemed still to be endlessly campaigning for the causes he believed in. In 2009, the final year of his degree, I was on maternity leave, but I met him volunteering at Brighton and Hove Black History Month.

Because of this, I was shocked to learn of Onikosi's diagnosis and angered by the decision of Theresa May to deport him to Nigeria despite his illness. After graduating from Sussex, Onikosi continued to work, pay taxes and volunteer in the UK. The Home Office disregards this and, following legal appeals and the intervention of Onikosi's MP in July 2012, deems it correct to send Onikosi back to Nigeria where virology specialist, Dr CI Anyanwu, explains there is "no definitive treatment available for the level of his condition he is experiencing".

In austerity Britain, the government has no qualms about universities accepting international students to pay huge fees to keep a virtually unfunded higher education system going. Foreign students are regularly referred to as cash cows by cynical university managers. Yet those same cows are accused of "milking the system" as soon as they overstay, no matter the reason, even when it means life over death.

Integration, a word beloved of post-9/11 western governments, suddenly becomes an irrelevance when it comes to wrenching from their homes people who have put down roots, created professional links, and benefited the society. Onikosi has lived in the UK for five years. It is the country in which he entered adulthood, as well as political consciousness. He has contributed to this society in ways in which his peers, born into the privilege of citizenship, may do also but do not have to in order to prove their worth.

There is no doubt, barring a miracle, that removing Onikosi to Nigeria will result in this young man losing his life. The UK is quick to preach when it comes to human rights abuses in other countries, but equally quick to moralise when the same victims of global inequality put its own ethics to the test. Are we really willing to cause a third, useless, death in one family? Because that is what failing to act to help keep Onikosi in the UK, where his chances of survival are good, will ultimately mean.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/25/why-luqman-onikosi-remain-britain
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Military Ranks 4th In Africa And 36th In The World by 4Play(m): 9:48pm On Jan 26, 2013
Sagamite: https://assets.punchng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Nigerian-Troops-deployed-to-Mali-360x225.jpg

Illiterate, unprofessional person misfits.

Danger to society.
Maybe they're on the lookout for liliputian Malian Islamists, hence the aiming of the AK47 to the ground! The Nigerian army is a posse of emotionally incontinent thugs in uniform masquerading as professional soldiers. The residents of Maiduguri and Odi can bear witness to the sadism of the Nigerian military.

Their peers in under countries certainly don't hold them in high esteem.

The "shocking" state of the Nigerian army has delayed plans for a military intervention in Mali, amid reports that it lacks the capability to fight on the frontline.

A senior source in Mali told the Guardian that a lack of training and discipline among Nigerian troops – who are being heavily relied on by regional bloc Ecowas to oust Islamists in control of northern Mali – is becoming increasingly apparent.

"The Nigerian army is in a shocking state," said the source, who has seen recent assessments of Ecowas's military capability. "In reality there is no way they are capable of forward operations in Mali – their role is more likely to be limited to manning checkpoints and loading trucks."

"The Nigerian forces lack training and kit, so they simply don't have the capability to carry out even basic military manoeuvres," the source added. "They have poor discipline and support. They are more likely to play a behind-the-scenes role in logistics and providing security."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed
Foreign AffairsRe: Genocide Of Infantile Proportion by 4Play(m): 9:23pm On Jan 26, 2013
Roe v Wade was a bizarre decision in so far as the Supreme Court held that the right to abortion was a constitutional right. It's a prime example of judicial law making.

As for gun rights, it's hard to see how the profusion of firearms makes Americans safer when the overwhelming evidence points to fatalities resulting from firearms in the US which far exceed the number of fatalities in other developed countries.

The clinching argument for me is the number of fatalities from gun accidents - 600 in 2010:
In the U.S. for 2010, there were 31,513 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 19,308; Homicide 11,015; Accident 600. This makes firearms injuries one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S.
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html

Contrast the above with this telling stat about the total number of fatalities from gun violence in certain developed countries
Compared to other developed countries, no one can come near the US. The following are gun deaths for 2008: Germany - 381, France - 255, Canada - 165, UK - 68, Australia - 65 and Japan - 39.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dan-ehrlich/uk-gun-ownership-up-deaths-down_b_1209967.html. Effectively, there are so many guns in the US, that firearm fatalities caused by accidents alone exceed in raw numerical terms fatalities in the aforementioned states.
PoliticsRe: How GEJ/Yaradua Spent $67Billion by 4Play(m): 9:00pm On Jan 26, 2013
This topic makes no sense. There's talk of post-OBJ administrations squandering $45bn in foreign reserves and $22bn in the excess crude account giving a total of $67bn. However, as at today, the foreign reserves total $45.3bn and the excess crude account has $9.2bn plus $1bn in the sovereign wealth fund, giving a total of $55.5bn

The CBN updates the foreign reserves stats every business day with a 3 or 4 business days delay.http://www.cenbank.org/
Information about the excess crude account and the sovereign wealth fund can be found here: http://allafrica.com/stories/201301160107.html& http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-20/nigeria-sovereign-wealth-fund-to-start-investing-in-march.html

The foreign reserves came down quickly in the '08 to '10 period due to sharp falls in crude oil prices. The dollar reserves were used to plug the gap re our foreign exchange requirements until crude oil prices rebounded and the partial removal of the fuel subsidy reduced our foreign exchange needs.

The excess crude account was depleted when much of it was handed over to state governments which was, in my view, part of GEJ's vote buying campaign. Of course, another viewpoint is that the legality of the account is tenuous so the FG has to bow down to state Govts demand to be handed money from it. Either way, the comical disinterest in how state Govts spend money is disturbing as are headlines like this which prize sensationalism over informed discourse. It would be interesting what the direct quote from Ms Ezekwesili actually is.
TravelWhen Going Back To Nigeria Is A Death Sentence: The Story Of Rose Akhalu by 4Play(op): 11:53am On Jan 19, 2013
In 1999, 48-year-old Roseline Akhalu’s husband, a nurse, was diagnosed with a brain tumour. The pair lived a simple life in a shared flat in Benin. Rose worked in local government and earned N22,000 - at the time about £80 - a year. The doctors told Rose’s husband that he’d need to raise £8,000 (N2,000,000) and go to South Africa or India for treatment. There was no way they could do it. Rose stood by as he lost his sight, then his ability to walk, and then to talk. She watched him die, and it broke her heart.

In Nigeria men used their children’s names as next-of-kin and since they did not have any children (prior to this, Rose had suffered a miscarriage) her husband used his brother’s name. His family took all of his possessions, including his pass book and cheque book. She wanted to challenge them, but was dissuaded by her mother, a traditionalist who told her she should be thankful to God that she was still young and had her life ahead of her. Rose was alone in the world. She set about putting her life back together.

Five years later, she was one of just 23 people to win a Ford Foundation scholarship to study in England. She took a masters degree in Development Studies at Leeds University. Inspired by her experiences, she wanted to establish an NGO to cater for the education of young girls. Back in Nigeria, she'd been helping young girls in her community and trying to give them awareness of their rights to encourage them to return to school, even as teenage mums. Whenever she went back to her village to see her family she would organise meetings under a tree near her house.

Rose began to attend St Augustine’s Catholic Church in Leeds. It’s a little parish about three miles from the centre of town. It’s a poor area, but the church has a buzzing middle-aged community; a mix of immigrants and people who’ve lived there all their lives.

Claire McLaughlin, a fellow parishioner, became her friend: she and Rose attended coffee mornings after mass. “She’s quite a private person,” she says, “But she’s really interested in other people.” The two women began working on community initiatives for young girls. “She’s brave, too,” says Claire. “She works with asylum seekers, and goes out doing street pastoring work in Harehills - she’s never evangelical with the people on the street: she just wants to help them.”

I ask Rose for a few more details on what she does in the church. “I’m a member of the choir and I lead the Bible study group. On Mondays I serve the older people tea, coffee and cake. After food we clean up and play Dominos and Bingo for biscuits. It’s like a day centre for women. They love it and the volunteers love it too. I’ve made so many friends in the church: I spent Christmas and Boxing Day with Paul and Dot...”

That’s the new life she built for herself. Christian, innocent and - though how bitter it feels to use this word in the light of what’s to come - somehow rather English.

One day, Rose went to a routine vaccination appointment and was told her blood pressure was too high. She was sent to a nephrologist at Leeds General Infirmary who ran tests and diagnosed renal failure. She planned to return to Nigeria, but was told the only way she could survive was by going on dialysis, or having a kidney implant. In May 2005, she was put on dialysis three times a week.

In 2009, she had a successful kidney implant. The next year, her consultant, Dr R J Baker, wrote to her former MP, Fabian Hamilton, explaining how the treatment had complicated her residential situation. She would need regular hospital check-ups and immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of her life.

Her plan had been to return to Nigeria. Now, however, it changed. Rose was no "health tourist". But it was her misfortune the medication to protect from rejection of the kidney would cost £10,000 per year in Nigeria - a sum Rose would never be able to earn given the wage differential (85 per cent of the population live on less than $1 a day), high unemployment and fact she is of retirement age in that country. She had no support network there, besides three siblings, all of whom lived in poverty. Moreover, as medical experts - Nigerian and British - have testified, the sanitary and medical facilities she required could not be provided. If deported, she would die within two to four weeks. She began to fight for the right to remain in the UK.

In March 2012, Rose arrived at the UK Border Agency (UKBA) Reporting Office for her monthly reporting when she was told she was being detained. Staff from Reliance – a firm contracted by UKBA – told her she was being transported from Leeds to Yarl’s Wood detention centre (an institution familiar to regular readers of this blog).

Close to Manchester, Rose asked to use the toilet. The female security officer told her she would be taken to a police station where it would be “safe” for her to go. On arrival at Manchester, after another 30 minutes of asking for the toilet she was taken to the Reliance Office for a duty change-over. Her pleas were ignored. She could see a toilet in the office through the van's window. She couldn’t bear to hold it in any longer, and stood up in the van. The officers started to look for a plastic bag into which she could urinate. They couldn’t find the bag for women, so she was given the one for men. The design didn’t work, but Rose couldn’t hold it in any more. She urinated all over her hands and the rest of the van, in full view of the CCTV camera.

She tells me: “I felt humiliated and degraded. I was treated like a common criminal. As if I had no dignity, no rights and no voice.” She was left covered in her urine, as was the van. She claims that as a result she suffered a urinary tract infection: she had to sit in her wet clothes until she arrived at Yarl’s Wood at 10.30pm. There is a civil case pending as a result of this incident. Negotiations are ongoing, but at the time of writing Reliance have refused the disclosure of records and documents required for a claim to be quantified.

The Home Office was attempting to remove Rose from the country. UKBA had decided that she was indeed a health tourist, even though she applied for her scholarship back in 2002 and her renal specialist had testified that her illness three years later was sudden and impossible to predict.

Rose would spend 26 days at Yarl’s Wood. Having been returned home, in May, Rose was then taken back to Yarl’s Wood. The second time round she was not given access to medication for 24 hours. She was then moved to Colinbrooke Detention Centre in London. There was not enough room for Rose in the women’s space, so she was taken to the male secure cell. The room was, she tells me, “Stuffed with cigarette smoke and rubbish. The officer left another woman and I there, so we started banging on the door, asking for him to let the cigarette smoke out of the room. The officer’s boss came and threatened us, telling us we’d be moved somewhere worse. Eventually a cleaner was sent.” Rose spent 16 days on this second detention.
http://www.newstatesman.com/alan-white/2013/01/trials-roseline-akhalu

Absolutely heartbreaking story which illustrates how desperate Nigeria is that a person with renal failure living in Nigeria is on an express train to death...unless of course they've enough money to afford treatment.
Politics'Smelly Nigerian': Racist Confrontation On London Train by 4Play(op): 8:23pm On Jan 10, 2013
Smelly Nigerian! Woman Attacked After Calling Teenager "Smelly Nigerian"



This is the shocking moment a furious mixed-race teenager tried to hit a woman on the Tube after she made a racist remark.

The mobile phone footage posted on YouTube yesterday is entitled 'Racist Woman On London Train Gets What She Deserves!'

It begins a short way into their argument - after the 19-year-old aspiring recording artist had apparently stepped on the woman's shoe.The pair trade insults, with the boy shouting that the woman has been racist, and her then calling him a 'smelly Nigerian', before he compares her to an 'escort'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HfID-jIp4

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2260124/Black-teen-punches-woman-calls-smelly-Nigerian-shocking-racist-video-filmed-Tube.html

Daily Mail's headline is a bit misleading as it leaves off the part about the teenager purportedly being attacked with a bottle. However, it's interesting attaching the term ''Nigerian'' to an epithet is seen as an insult.
PoliticsRe: No Going Back On Criminalizing Same-Sex Marriage In Nigeria – David Mark by 4Play(m): 7:56pm On Jan 07, 2013
This is just a way legislators distract us from real issues. In principle, gay relationships have no effect on non-gays. Same-sex marriage has always been illegal in Nigeria so this is an exercise in futility in a country that serious pressing issues.
PoliticsRe: Ben Murray Bruce Named Chairman Of FRCN by 4Play(m): 8:04pm On Jan 02, 2013
wellmax: Immediately he left NTA, he set up Silverbird TV and the rest is history.
when he's done with FRSC, who knows what the guy will be setting up again.
Smart business man.
Nigerians' liberal use of the word ''smart'' in the business world is funny as it's often used as a synonym for ''crooked'' which is very apt in the case of Mr Bruce.
PoliticsRe: Okonjo-Iweala & Sanusi Disagree On National Debt Policy by 4Play(m): 1:43pm On Dec 29, 2012
Debt is okay if it's sustainable and if it's used to expand the economy's capacity for growth. The latter mainly refers to infrastructure investment.

The problem is that why most Nigerians criticise the growth in debt, they support passionately most wasteful spending, whether fuel subsidy or increases in public sector wages. The entire debt taken up by the FG this year will be wiped out by removing the fuel subsidy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: MTW: RIP Robin Van Persie (1983-2012) by 4Play(m): 3:59pm On Dec 26, 2012
This was a disgraceful act of gratuitous violence that could have been fatal. angry RVP survived a near death experience and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family in this traumatic moment. Shame on you Ashley Williams. angry

Muki, mind yourself o. I pray that you will be hit on the head by a thousand balls this New Year! Amen angry
Nairaland GeneralRe: Apology To Jarus And OAM4J by 4Play(m): 10:26am On Dec 26, 2012
This site is a business for Seun and the real question is whether its decided turn, I'm referring to the politics section, to promoting tribal wars is good for business. If tribal fights drive internet traffic, then by all means encourage the current set of mods to continue.

Knowing Nigerians, tribal loyalties is what defines their political outlook. It might be worth Seun looking at counter balancing the present set of tribal warrior mods with 1 or 2 tribal warriors from the East. Imagine the internet traffic you will create if you have front page threads that sates both Igbo and Yoruba lust for tribal mudslinging.
PoliticsRe: Yakowa Tragedy: Crashed Navy Helicopter Had ‘engine Failure’ After 10 Trips by 4Play(m): 10:37pm On Dec 16, 2012
These are the kind of issues worth examining, the use of Navy helicopters for private purposes by our political elite. It's symptomatic of a culture that sees public resources as belonging to those in power.

Instead, this site is filled with conspiracy theories about assasinations.
PoliticsRe: The Subsidy Mathematics by 4Play(m): 12:15pm On Dec 15, 2012
All these calculations will be pointless if you scrapped the subsidy programme in its entirety.
PoliticsRe: Federal Character Breeds Mediocrity - Sanusi by 4Play(m): 7:17pm On Dec 06, 2012
Given the shortage of highly accomplished economists in the CBN's ranks, I've always said the CBN Gov should be someone with a PHD in economics or one who is highly accomplished having worked for or attended a world class institution. Sanusi is not any of these. Whilst I agree with most of his expressed views on topical issues, he's clearly not qualified for the post.

He will make a great president though and I wish he would run for office.

This idea of him being a bank CEO making him qualified for CBN Gov is odd. That will be like Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan's CEO, or Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman Sachs's CEO, being made Chairman of the Federal Reserves. Obama will be laughed off for such a nomination. I know our Central Bank's remit is different but you still need an accomplished monetary economist in that role.
PoliticsRe: Happy 53rd Birthday To Diezani Alison-madueke by 4Play(m): 6:34pm On Dec 06, 2012
I wish she tenders her resignation immediately and returns her loot. Her retention of her post epitomises GEJ's incompetence.
PoliticsRe: Bunmi Awoniyi Is A Superior Court Judge In US by 4Play(m): 1:43pm On Dec 04, 2012
If I am not mistaken, this is the equivalent of being appointed a magistrate in the UK or Nigeria. In California, their counties are the equivalent of Local Govts in Nigeria. As laudable as it is for her, it's somewhat embarrassing for a nation of +160 million to trumpet these achievements as a major national success.
PoliticsRe: We Won't Sack Civil Servants- FG by 4Play(m): 5:27pm On Nov 30, 2012
The bloated public sector reportedly takes up to 70% of FG's expenditure. That is just sheer lunacy. The Govt can't create jobs by merely employing people, the resources to do this pales in significance to the number of unemployed. The best way to create jobs is by investing in infrastructure which will reduce the cost of running a business and by having business friendly policies such as low taxation and less red tape.

Where you have a Govt spending 70% of its resources on salary payments to public sector workers who constitute less than 10% of the adult population, this leaves the Govt with little to spend on infrastructure, health, education and security. Effectively, 90% of the Nigerian population do not feel the effects of Govt as they neither work in the public sector nor are they part of the political class.
PoliticsRe: Youths Shutdown Indomie Factory In Kaduna South by 4Play(m): 12:14pm On Nov 29, 2012
lagerwhenindoubt: This is a Capitalist Economy.. no community youths should be given free-handouts because a factory is established in their broke-back community, whatever happened to your Local Government Chairmen who get a monthly allocation in millions of Naira? Communities need to start demanding performance from their LGA Officers and Governors. Indomie pays HEAVY taxes and is in the business of making money not giving it out.. they also do some charity work.. why would they employ some dead-beat, unskilled, lazy, illiterate when their own government won't employ them or create jobs for them..

http://247ureports.com/youths-shutdown-africas-largest-indomie-factory-in-kaduna-south/
It's amazing that you don't hear of people matching to their local and state government houses to demand that action be taken on development. Instead, there's a preference for shaking down businesses for monetary compensation.
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Spends £100,000 (N26m) To Send Nigerian Student To Oxford University by 4Play(m): 7:40pm On Nov 19, 2012
Sagamite: Moronic story to the person congregation he leads like blind sheep!

No 1, a PhD in Oxford does not cost £100K. Not even if it was in Medicine, talkless of Engineering.

No 2, except this person Man of Con is admitting he is a looter, he did not sponsor the student. The congregation did. It was the church's money, not his, why is he claiming the glory.

Fool and more foolish followers.
It's amazing it took 3 pages of reading through complete guff to come across something remotely reasonable. It will be interesting to see an explanation of why the cost of studying for a PHD at Oxford could be pegged at £100,000.00. You can get a ballpark figure by using this link. http://www.ox.ac.uk/feesandfunding/search/launch/

It's also incredible that no distinction is made between the shyster's money and that of his congregation. He has a lot of explaining to do if he has £100,000.00 lying around.
Foreign AffairsRe: 8 - Questions About The New Israel - Hamas War by 4Play(m): 10:32pm On Nov 18, 2012
honeric01: Check up what i posted on this already.

Gaza fell to British forces during World War I, becoming a part of the British Mandate of Palestine. As a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Egypt administered the newly formed Gaza Strip territory and several improvements were undertaken in the city. Gaza was captured by Israel in the Six-Day War in 1967, but in 1993, the city was transferred to the Palestinian National Authority. Following the 2006 election, conflict broke out as the Fatah party seemed unwilling to transfer power to Hamas, resulting in Hamas taking power in Gaza by force. Egypt and Israel imposed a Blockade of the Gaza Strip following the 2006 Hamas cross-border raid.[5] Israel eased the blockade allowing consumer goods in June 2010, and Egypt reopened the Rafah border crossing in 2011 to pedestrians.[5][6]


There was no time Israel owned Gaza, rather they kept stealing it either through world decree or force. (Like colonization)

Can you answer this question honestly? were was Israel prior to 1947? BTW, was there anything like Israel prior to 1947?if there was, where was she situated?
I am struggling to see what your point is. I have posted several times that Israel captured Gaza in 1967 from Egypt before handing it over to the Palestinians in 2005, I say 2005 as that is when they pulled all troops out of Gaza. Israel has never owned Gaza and does not claim to own Gaza. Not one inch of Gaza territory is occupied or claimed by Israel today.

Prior to Egypt taking over Gaza, Gaza was run by the British who captured it from the Ottoman Turks during the Fist World War. The article you have posted clearly shows this. Neither, the Egyptians, the British or the Turks are Palestinian, hence, Israel's action of handing over control to the Palestinians marked the first time in history that the Palestinians were able to exercise sovereignty over Gaza.

As for where Israel was prior to 1947, Israel did not exist as a country. However, neither did Palestine. Effectively, what has happened is that just as Nigeria has been created by Western fiat, Israel was created by fiat too. Not sure what relevance that has with why Gazans choose to lob rockets into their neighbour's territory when this hardly advances their cause. Israel does not want Gaza so one cannot make the argument that the people of Gaza are resisting Isreali aggression when they attack a state that has ceded control to Gazans.
Foreign AffairsRe: 8 - Questions About The New Israel - Hamas War by 4Play(m): 9:40pm On Nov 18, 2012
eggheaders: they have to defend there lands and dignity.or you want them to fold there hands and wait for death.sorry I remember your religion preaches turning the other cheek for a salvo slap.
How is the objective of defending their land enhanced by inviting Israeli airstrikes unto their land? Lets face it, if there are no rockets from Gaza there will be no airstrikes from Israel. Neither the defence of Gaza or the dignity of its resident is enhanced by inviting pulverisation by the Israel air force. I think if you were honest that you will admit that this is a case of religious fanaticism run amok. We see that with Boko Haram who have stated objectives, converting Nigeria into an Islamic state, that have no chance of being actualised. Perpetual conflict has become the end in itself for Islamo-fascists.
Foreign AffairsRe: 8 - Questions About The New Israel - Hamas War by 4Play(m): 9:32pm On Nov 18, 2012
violent: Yeah they have a couple of rockets, some stones, a few guns, probably even some helicopters and i bet that measures up as being well armed?
I find this talk of the Israelis being better armed than the Palestinians and which is offered as evidence of Israel being in the wrong as irrational. Would Israel achieve moral equivalence by lobbing hundreds of rockets, as the Palestinians do, into Gaza indiscriminately? If Israel were to do this, the casualties incurred by the residents of Gaza would be even higher than it is today.

Israel is not in occupation of Gaza and there is no justification for the authorities in Gaza to continue to launch rockets at Israel when, even the sympathisers of the Palestinians will admit, there is nothing to be gained from this. The root of the problem stems from an ideological and theocratic stance which sees Jewish presence on Muslim land as an abomination. You only have to read Hamas's charter to see that they are sworn to Israel's destruction. It is not Israel's duty to accommodate the religious fanaticism of the Palestinian rulers in Gaza.
Foreign AffairsRe: 8 - Questions About The New Israel - Hamas War by 4Play(m): 9:22pm On Nov 18, 2012
As a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Egypt administered the newly formed Gaza Strip territory and several improvements were undertaken in the city. Gaza was captured by Israel in the Six-Day War in 1967, but in 1993, the city was transferred to the Palestinian National Authority.
The above quote answers your question. Egypt ran Gaza until 1967 and no thought was given to handing control of it to the Palestinians. Instead, it was run as part of the state of Egypt. It was the Israelis who gave the Palestinians Gaza. I said 2005 as that was when the Israeli military ceased occupation and removed Jewish settlements in Gaza.

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