₦airaland Forum

AnambraDota:
Why are you lying
How many houses at Osogbo, Ekiti, Ogbomosho, and Ibadan have toilets?

Your pained because I opened factual thread but you cheer deomelo when he opened insulting threads about SE.

Whenever I got the time I will be treating all the yoruba Bleep up one of the other.

I'm less busy this weekend so let's have fun

Alcatraz002 come, I need you now

Toilets?, I hope this is not a luxury in Igboland?.
I met a water system in Ogbomosho way back 1979, when my dad took me to my grandma for long vacation.
I later went for secondary school education in Ogbomosho.
I don't remember seeing a house that doesn't have at least a LATRINE so what exactly are you talking about?.
I'm also privileged to have been to places like Awe, Iwo, some parts of Oshun state like Ile Ogbo, Gbogan and Ife axis and I still didn't see houses that were built without toilets.
People can choose to defaecate in the public especially in a crowded dirty environment, due to the unavailability of public toilets, as seen in dirty place like LADIPO and ALABA and other dirty places.
But, that houses could be build without toilets, that place is DEFINITELY NOT IN YORUBA LAND.

cstr1000:
You build bridges with worthy people, not potential back-stabbers and cowards trying to rejoice in injustice.
You will never see igbo peope hoping that the naijerian army escalate its war against yoruba just because of political difference.
During the ife crisis, you won't find igbo individuals sympathizing with the aggressive northerners because we know what they are capable of doing. Even if we have political differences, we know when to draw the line.

Sorry, your people are not trust-worthy partners. Even the north knows that.
They are at best kept at arms length. We can partner on mnor isssues but on issues with severe importamce, the SW cannot be trusted.

Look who's talking now.
Anyway as long as your people don't make the mistake of invading an inch of our homelands like they did in the past, Yoruba and Igbos have nothing in common.
When exactly have Yoruba ever asked Igbos for support on anything?, Yoruba would rather fall back on old friends like Tapa, Ebira, Benin, Itshekiri, Uhurobo and so on.
It's not as if Yoruba hate or look down on Igbos, it's JUST that you don't have what we need.

ideologies:
see how stupid u sound, who votes during elections.

Did u visit south east, they don't turn up.

You rigg your elections and claim you are smarts.

Igbo don't have any business with elections if you have a few selfish politicians dancing around, that is their business.

Note this again, Igbo don't turn up for elections you can even research 2015 elections.



So you agree that the north will use and dump u again come 2019

Hahhahahhahahsaaaa
Idiot good nite.

You better believe it, Igbo people even rigged the 1999 election in favor of Obj.
It was shown live on CNN, an elected Senator of the federal republic of Nigeria was supervising RIGGING in his home town in SE.
Igbos don't vote Kkkkkkkkkk, Google is always your friend.

NgcoboP:
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers
Bible > 2 Corinthians > Chapter 6 > Verse 14
◄ 2 Corinthians 6:14 ►

New International Version
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

New Living Translation
Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?

English Standard Version
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
For those quoting me.,. He was a Christian... Frolicking with unbelievers.

Christian?, he was a fraudster.
They are all the same.

Guestlander:
Dangote alone is building a refinery worth $11 billion dollars and some people here are ranting about their mum and pop shops calling them "massive investment"
Wonders shall never end.

Kkkkkkkkkk

Jaideyone:
oh so now i'm an ibo hater because i refuse to swallow his lies that ibos were invading ife during moremi's time? could you pls bring a link to support such claims or forever remain silent

i wonder why you kids enjoy twisting history to fit your delusion

From his deluded mind?, .kkkkkkkkkk.

diegwu01:
Nigeria was ranked among the 10 fastest improving economies just last week. after making a huge leap in the ease of Doing business index. I believe the World Bank Stats.

So you don't know that good news don't sell, bad news sells faster.
When Bloomberg was screaming about investors fleeing Nigeria in droves, the NEVER DO WELLS were celebrating.
Now that good report is coming in from the likes of world Bank, they said it's a lie.
That they can't see or feel it doesn't mean it's not happening.
The national reserve is $33 billion right now, I only pray that the reserve should hit the $40 billion mark before the end of next year.
If the happen, dollar should be going for less than three hundred, and the more the reserve, the stronger the Naira.
This is the conventional way of running and economy unlike the previous abracadabraish economic models, which had almost turn this country into a beggar nation.

Hunnn

Igboid:
I can't say there are no mud houses in Igboland, there could be some, but they are very hard to find, and most of them are abandoned, it's not uncommon to see a block house just nearby an abandoned mud house, they(mudhouses)are not common, and they are considered a thing of reproach. Only the downtrodden like widows and extremely poor live in mud houses in Igboland , and in Igboland, when one lives in mud house, he/she is considered homeless, because mostly they are actually homeless people, who circumstances forced into parking into hitherto abandoned mud houses.

This is not the case In Yorubaland. It's almost like a norm there. Living in mudhouse is considered absolutely normal there, they would go extra mile to plaster and paint such mudhouses, including building them into upstairs and decorating them.

It was in Yorubaland I saw a mudhouse upstairs lininnig an entire street for the first time in my life.
Never knew people will make out time to build mudhouses into upstairs.

You should be ashamed of telling us that there are FEW mud houses in Igboland, Igboland should not even have a single mud house.
What is the size of Igboland?, a land that is not up to the size of Kogi state could still have mud houses?, despite being shared into 5 States?.
This shows how irresponsible the government and the privileged ones amongst the Igbos are, no wonder the underprivileged are fleeing in droves.

divineappo:
Am a Christian, I need this Sukuk loan. Is there any Islamic bank in lagos?
Can someone tell me, or pm me?

I know some holy Christians will quote me wrongly soon.
Let religious pple go and die.

I practice True Christianity, not Religious Christianity.

You mean you are not possessed by vain glory?, in that case visit Stanbic bank.

henryhemon:
Very good question but clowns won't ask questions,where's the Christian bank that will lend without interest as the Islamic bank does? Where is the Christian version of Skukuk too? They only preach in church n don't even help themselves but criticise another religion that does enough to help theirs. Imagine if churches build industries and church members are employed,Tell me what effect will it have? Nonsense all they Christian leaders knows so talk n talk n look for a way to enrich themselves. They can't even tell a councilor the truth cuz of fear.

This brought tears to my eyes.

Wiseandtrue:
Abeg VP Oshinbajo if they have not succeeded is not because of your likes!

With our legislative buildings built like a mosque

With the recent removal of Christian Religious Studies from the curriculum

Or is it the Arabic inscription on our legal tender

With that Islamic country inviting a secular state to an all Islamic sport events BAKU 2017, is Nigeria an Islamic country

Your government placed muslims/Norths in almost all the post in Nigeria

If we were all thinking at a snail pace the way you are doing sir, they would have succeeded!

In fact you have disappointed me both as a politician and especially as a PASTOR!

Under your watch, even as a lawyer, our judiciary system turn out to be the most corrupt!

Very disappointing indeed!

Shior.

agbangam:
U are the dull one here, dis is 2yrs into PMB govt and till dis very moment no One has been forced to convert to Islam rather PMB has Christians working with him. U guys need help, ur hate for PMB will consume u all.
I believe if u are issued with a visa to Dubai a Sharia practicing country, u will gladly accept d visa with out complaining. U guys are hypocrites.

Chai, why are you being economical with the truth?
Their HATERED FOR Buhari has already destroyed them.
Go and see them bearing Muslim names in the so called Islamic countries, all in the name of Dollars. Shame.

Godfullsam:
You have traveled to all sw. Why traveling upandan if your region is as good as you claimed

I honestly cant imagine myself traveling to the south eastern god-forsaken region. For what?!

We dont go out of our region because we are comfortable with what we have, unlike you guys...

As in, if I wan wander, na to enter evil forest?.

samsobo24:
The rate of civilization or Development in States like Lagos,Ogun,Oyo is enough to reduce poverty rate in the SW.
This mentioned state are among the Greatest Economic power house of Nigeria

You are rubbing salt on their already injured ego.

deji17:
Na real ejidare.

Na EDI DA RE, kudos.
My guy upgrade your Yoruba o, make some a'tounrinwa no come de mistake you for a flatron.
Odua a gbe wa o, Ase o.

salt1:
She's actually right. Buhari will win if he's alive and well to contest in 2019. Here are my own reasons:
1) he enjoys huge support of the North
2)The North has huge population. By 2019, most of the 10m out of school children in the north will be qualified to vote and will vote for him
3)if he presents Osibanjo, he will still get block votes from Yorubas who will enjoy the possibility of a presidency if the incumbent should die. Born agains in Redeemed and Winners will still support their pastor.
4) there will be voter apathy in SS and SE if the two major parties present Hausas

It sucks being Igbo or SS right now, but democracy is a game of numbers. Right now, the Hausas and Yorubas have it and will continue to be the beautiful bride for a long while

Man wey sabi, your head dey there.

FarahAideed:
If anybody else was President Nigeria wouldnt have plunged into recession

Chai, see gongoshu.

EternalTruths:
Yorubas can't oppose Biafra and still talk of Yoruba Presidency when the Igbos haven't rule.

Wetin concern agbero with overload?, Igbos dey vote Yoruba before?.
Must you always entwine our destiny with yours?, nonsense join join, attache by force people.

fergie001:
Hmmmmmm

Good one.

Rmxr:
So why do Igbos always point fingers at the SW when they know the SW didn't contribute much to Buhari's victory

This question has been begging for answer since 2015.

ganye1:
2019 is for Buhari to take if he wants to. Buhari in opposition has consistently gotten twelve million votes despite PDP's control of huge resources and the security agencies which they use to rig elections. Now with Buhari's exceptional handling of the mess left by PDP's 16 years of massive looting of our resources and the terrible security situation they left, his original 12 million votes plus other reasonable Nigerians who saw how well Buhari did despite sabotage from the beneficiaries of the old era would gang up to ensure Buhari is returned with a landslide. Also don't forget that the federal government might which was used against Buhari previously is now in his hands and the resources too won't be too scarce as before.

You are on point,

babaolofin:
I am very sorry to come out with this observation, despite the fact that I attended an institution in the East, it seems the highly intelligent easterners are not the ones posting online on national issues. I have highly intelligent, exposed & urbane gentlemen as friends at Alaba, Ariara & Osha Main Market, but some of these people on postings here you wonder if they ever passed through schools or they are just crude traders with their reasoning.

Kkkkkkkkkk chai.

months:
U SEE THE WAY, WE TAKE RUN FOR UNA, GIVE UNA LONG DISTANCE, DEY USE LONG SPOON FOLLOW UNA.

THINGS HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER FOR US.

HOWEVER, U KEEP PURSUING US, Y IS STAYING ON YOUR OWN SUCH A BIG PROBLEM?

U HAVE YOUR NORTHERN BROTHERS, ABI U WANT TO BETRAY DEM, OR U HAVE ALREADY BETRAYED DEM?

Another junkie, you abandoned your hamlets for SW and still accused the S/Westerners of pursuing you.
Are you sure you are not a robot programmed to post rubbish?.

seunmsg:
You should be the one to check up your history. From the first, second, third, and the beginning of the current fourth republic, Igbo's have always aligned with the North politically. 2015 was the very first time that the south west aligned with the north.

I NEVER knew how UNINFORMED the S/Easterners were until I came to Nairaland.

AkupeMBANO:
I think this is the best move of all these southern governors since time immemorial. if these northern governors can always come up together to address issues that will favour the north, why can't the south do so? after all Nigeria is divided into north and south. the so much disunity withing the southern hemisphere here remains the number one reason why these normadic cattle rearers keep on riding on us.

tinubu just discovered that the northern romance didn't favour him. did he just make a U turn? LMAO! if he did, that's a smart one though.

I finally advice Afonja Muslims to stop allowing these Burukutu sipping clowns to continuously deceive them with religion. south let's come together even on Nairaland sef. I want to promise i won't mention Afonja here on Nairaland after that meeting. but for now, Afonjas and great igbos And itsekiris Abi Wetin sef, let's all come together.

Tinubu this Tinubu that, Tinubu is the reason PDP could not put her house in other.
Abeg buy a brain if you no get, or borrow some ok?.

HzRF:
Who discharge this one from Aro?

We should continue with Abdul-recession?

Mount pressure on someone who rule base on 97%-5% basis

This guy should be return back to his cage

You better get used to having PMB as your president, he's going to be there till 2023 wether you like it or not.

HungerBAD:
By Leo Sobechi

What Tinubu’s Candidacy Will Reveal

Assuming Asiwaju Bola Tinubu succumbs to pressure and throws his hat in the ring to contest the Presidential election in 2019, what could be the likely implications on the polity? First, he would be asserting his position as the political leader of the Southwest. Next, he would be acknowledging the fact that mistakes were made in 2015; and thereby, coming out would mean accepting responsibility and electing to lead in the path of correcting those mistakes. More importantly, Jagaban would be testing the loyalty of his political protégés and holders of various goodwill (IoUs).

However, as simple as that executive summary sounds, the journey to 2019 for the politically savvy people of Southwest geopolitical zone is not all about restoring the political glory of the former Lagos State governor, as much as, it is about rekindling the electoral supremacy of the zone.

It is not for nothing that the perception holds true that whenever the Southwest sneezes, Nigeria’s polity catches influenza. The foundation for principled opposition to political tyranny and bad governance was laid in the zone by such eminent political personalities as Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Bode Thomas, Chief S. L. Akintola, Majekodunmi, among others.

The tradition of political solidarity that took root in the first republic has survived in the Southwest, because after he founded Egbe Omo Oduduwa as a political consciousness movement, Awo succeeded in grooming a cult following of supporters, leading to the formation of solid political parties such as Action Group (AG) and Unity Party (UPN).

During the Ibrahim Babangida transition programme, Tinubu found himself within the Social Democratic Party (SDP). He was later to contest for the senate of Lagos West senatorial district election, which he won.

As Senator, Tinubu was active when the military annulled the 1993 presidential election, which Chief Moshood Abiola, was on the verge of winning. It was therefore in keeping with the Southwest approach to political commonality that gifted Bola Ahmed Tinubu with the ticket of the Alliance of Democracy (AD).

With that rich political resume, the leadership of Afenifere believed that Tinubu had paid his dues in championing the interest of the Yoruba nation, particularly during the NADECO days and thus placed him at a more vantage position to mount the governorship of Lagos State.

Upholding The Culture of Principled Opposition


As Governor of Lagos State, Tinubu, upheld the culture of animated and principled political opposition as Awo did in the first and second republics. Not minding that a Yoruba was President of the mainstream platform, Asiwaju kept fate with the political ideals of the sense of solidarity that defines Southwest politics.

It was during the political supremacy battle with the President Olusegun Obasanjo-led Federal Government of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) that Tinubu rallied the rest of Southwest to his side. He went on to consolidate on that after a massive onslaught of the ruling PDP left Lagos as the only AD state in Southwest.

Perhaps, on account of that political reality, Tinubu saw the need to restrategise and reposition the party. But meeting some indifference from certain tendencies in AD, the Lagos State governor recalibrated a faction of the party as Action Congress (AC). His foresight paid off in 2007 as the new party went on to win back states earlier captured by the PDP.

Southwest Journey To National Prominence


Buoyed by the impressive outing in the 2007 general election, especially against the background of the membership of former Vice President Atiku Abubakar and repackaging of AC as Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN); Southwest politicians lined up behind Tinubu. And identifying him as leader, the Southwest started a journey to the centre in a bold effort to mainstream its politics on the national turf.

Even when Atiku, the 2007 ACN Presidential candidate returned to PDP, ACN with Tinubu as pilot, navigated its way through the 2011 general election with a lone star Presidential candidate in the person of Nuhu Ribadu. Most ACN faithful still hold the view that fielding Ribadu was a mere stop gap following the failure of the party to fine-tune a political understanding with the then Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), led by retired General Muhammadu Buhari.

One crucial item, which parties to the alliance discussion could not cross out easily was the issue of who should be the running mate to Buhari as the Presidential candidate under the arrangement. It was during talks on that working relationship that Tinubu was said to have told Buhari that after serving as senator and state governor, the only position left for him was the Presidency.

Although most insiders in the erstwhile ACN believed that the planned political accord with Buhari’s CPC crumbled immediately the PDP reached out to the Southwest leaders, others maintain that the nuanced rejection of a possible Muslim/Muslim ticket by Buhari made Tinubu to lose interest in the arrangement.

However, at the end of the 2011 election, the Southwest, notably the ACN saw that it did not fare badly, as it not only retained traditional control of the six states that constitute its stronghold, but also got some lubricant to oil the party machinery.

Merger Of Vengeance

Perhaps, believing that the Southwest got its due in the bargain for 2011 election, both the Jonathan Presidency and PDP did not find further need to carry forward the political concord, like Obasanjo did by accommodating members of the opposition in the federal cabinet, or engaging ACN further in policy formulation and other aspects of governance.

Faced with the coldness, Tinubu and his foot soldiers did not want to retreat from their mission of reaching the centre to make a bold political statement. Therefore, when the former national chairman of All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP), Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, mooted the idea of merger, the Southwest leaders jumped at it.

But seeing in the new opening a golden opportunity to requite PDP and President Jonathan for their political arrogance, Tinubu and ACN went into the merger talks with the single agenda of ousting the PDP government, believing that as the engine room of the merger works, there was no way it would end up with the short end of the stick.

However, nearly three years after it went into what now looks more like a merger of vengeance, than a political accord among equal partners, the Southwest leaders are examining the balance sheet. Talk of positions of responsibility and strategic importance, the return to the former ACN stable is interesting.

Yet the Southwest leadership seems to have discovered how it has been dispossessed and distanced from the nitty-gritty of governance. Unless in pretense, none of the Southwest leaders that supported the merger with passion could say that the party’s input or imprint could be found in the proceeds of governance in the last three years.

Ratiocination, Solving The Identity Crisis

As the build up to the 2019 general election gains momentum, there is little doubt that the Southwest leaders have become sober. The recent meeting of Southwest APC stakeholders in Ibadan was acclaimed as a moment for the leaders to reflect on the past, review strategies and prepare for the ensuing electoral battle.

What the Southwest leaders appeared to be saying after the soul searching in Agodi was, in the language of the late Afro music legend, Fela, follow follow make you open eye! Tinubu and his supporters are not therefore pretending that they are no longer prepared to get into any political boat with their eyes closed or fixated on a single item.

Part of the strategies of the zone for real political engagement is to interrogate the leadership recruitment process. Although he rebuffed all overtures to rethink his single minded supported for Buhari, Tinubu knows that the former military ruler was not the best or brightest among the aspirants for the presidential ticket in 2015.

By covertly zoning the Presidency to an individual, Tinubu and Southwest followers negated the ideals of democracy and free competition. The famed savvy political aptitude of the Southwest was thrown to the ground, when the leaders in the merger arrangement adopted less than just and fair methodologies to accommodate strangers for the single purpose of gaining access to national power.

The CPC leaders that participated in the merger talks, especially Hadi Sirika, believed that the Southwest leaders were outfoxed in their haste to con the north politically. They maintain that if its support for power to return to the north was for altruistic reasons, dislodging political structures in some states to accommodate the strange ideological bedfellows from nPDP should not have been.

For instance, there are APC stalwarts that still hold the belief that the party would have still defeated Jonathan and PDP without the help of nPDP interlopers. Even former Sokoto State governor, Attahiru Bafarawa stated that by absorbing the troublers of PDP and their indiscipline that APC lost its claim of change.

Even former Jigawa governor, Sule Lamido, refuses to accept that APC defeated PDP in 2015, saying that so-called Southwest progressives conspired with PDP renegades to afflict Nigeria with a Buhari Presidency.

Also, most of those who watched the 2011 Presidential debate argue that if Southwest and the legacy parties in APC were looking for ideological cleansing or rebirth of the country’s politics, the former governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau, trumped Buhari on all departments.

Consequently, in the midst of all these points of view, particularly the winner-takes-all disposition of Buhari and his loyalists, the Southwest must have come to the realisation that it must reclaim its political sobriety to assert its famed pedigree in multi-party democracy.

That realisation was captured by Chief Bisi Akande’s declaration that there is as yet nothing like closet bargain for presidential ticket, as it is open for all Nigerians. Whoever would aspire to be Nigeria’s President in 2019 must, going by Akande’s assertions, be able to convince the Southwest on where s/he stands of devolution, fiscal federalism, state police, among other issues that are very dear to the Yoruba nation.

Of course, there is no better way to engage the presidential aspirants than having their leader, the Jagaban Borgu, on the discussion table as Presidential aspirant too. By being on the Presidential ballot, not minding which platform, Tinubu and his Southwest allies, would bring back the beauty of competition, compromise through dialogue and political socialization that deepens democracy.

Furthermore, in the expected national conversation, Tinubu’s aspiration would help the Southwest to ascertain how far their recent positions had gone to ‘disorient’ such people like Governors Ibikunle Amosun and Rotimi Akeredolu, Babatunde Fashola, Dr. Kayode Fayemi, Muiz Banire; among others, away from the sense of solidarity that defines Southwest politics.

Indeed, a presidential aspiration in 2019 will help Tinubu to regain his leadership role in Southwest politics, because even if he may not necessarily be contesting to win, he would have played himself back to reckoning and thereby remain relevant in national politics. Southwest seems to be on the march again.

http://guardian.ng/politics/southwest-apc-and-renegotiating-2019/

Lalasticlacla Mynd44 Seun

Leo Tobechi or Leo oloshi?
Oga who send you message?
So Fashola, Amosun and co are feeling out of place working with the federal government?.
Don't worry, they are relatively new to this new ideology but they will get used to it.
Yoruba NO GO EVER play opposition in this country again.
Never again, Fela, Gani, Beko, Kudi, Abiola, Bola Ige and others, got their lives cut short by the greedy folks of this country.
Yoruba CANNOT continue to carry other people matter for head like gala.
I don't even care if Nigeria becomes a one party state, as long as my people does not play opposition.
Yoruba Ronu o, let others carry the load too, what is good for the goose is equally good for the gander.

ogologoamu:
I am not talking about GEJ here but Buhari who brainwashed you that there won't be anything like office of the first lady but today he's in Turkey with the first lady.

See as you dey disgrace yourself.

kitaatita:
It's actually the speech that nailed PDP. OP has forgotten that PDP lost the election

What is this na?, let them entertain me jare.
They still haven't believe that PDP lost the election, e still dey do dem like film.

I don taya for Kogi state matters, THESE people ASKED for this current Governor.
They even carried placards, just to make sure that FALEYE did not become their Governor.
This is what they get for bringing back a man who had already decamped to PDP.
SELFISH people, a multi ethnic state was converted to an IGBIRA property at the expense of other tribes, shame on that useless Governor, shame on IGBIRA folks.
Let them stop wailing and bear this self inflicted pains, who knows, by 2019 they may succeed in getting rid of their back door Governor, rip to the dead anyway.

Horus:
You are free to visit museums, public buildings, churchs, monuments, government buildings and see all evidences by yourself, so whatever you say, think, believe or any other think you post here will not change the reality. Arguing cannot remove the presence of artefacts representing black african moors all over europe. Your attempt to whitewash black history failed miserably.

Did you notice the SPHINX in Egypt?, the faces of the Pharaohs are being tampered with.
White folks are TAMPERING with their NOSES.
They still CANNOT agree with the idea of a black man setting up those structures way back.
No matter how had they try,the truth will always reveal itself.
Look at Euclid, the Egyptian mathematician, they said he is a Greek.
How could he be a Greek when everything point to the facts that he was an Egyptian.
They even argued that hieroglyphics and pyramids were alien inventions, how could this be when there are pyramids is in Sudan as well.
And these were build 800 years after the Egyptians have stopped building pyramids.