₦airaland Forum

kristonium:
That's the way to remain relevant in Lagos!
Consolidation on point!

Wetin concern biabians with Lagos?

successmatters:
No, I don't dig it. From what you just wrote, you people are one confused tribe of people hopping around from religion to religion without any understanding of the true teachings of any.

You just painted your tribe as a fickle minded bunch of people.

Kkkkkkkkkk I feel your pain bro.

BabaRamota1980:
Ohakim, read my lips...
Dredge those rivers at your own peril.

You never move soil the land underneath dey shift and swallow roads and villages. What do you think will happen when you disturb the subterranean to widen and increase depth for the river?

We are tired of hosting ungrateful refugees from East. If you drege and widen the gullies whats the first place you think your people go run go?

Yorubas have a stake here. We need to protect interest in our future, for us and our children, our region is over saturated with Ibos, we cant absorb anymore refugees. It is therefore politically prudent that our leaders oppose any act and discourage discussion on dredging anywhere in SE. Such a task requires heavy machineries with high vibrations that will displace rocks, soil and water. The subterranean formation underneath alaibo will not absorb these impacts well and will result in human catastrophy. We say no to river dredging in East. Why cant you continue to use ports in West, is anyone evicting your people from doing their business at Apapa? No! If the space at Apapa and Tin Can is no longer sufficient to accomodate you then talk to Lagos State Governor and we can build more ports to make your business easier and smoother.
Thats common sense! Stop talking about ports and dredging you will upset us. Remember, we are brothers....and no need to upset your kins in West.

Chukwu Okike Abiamo!

Abeg let dem dredge the river, I want these people to go back home CHAI, I'm sick and tired of their endless wailing.

ESDKING:
Do u know that Yoruba Christians are not given fair treatment by Yoruba Muslims in SW ? ,

1, Only Yoruba Muslims have been Gov of Lagos until the outcry became too much by Yoruba Christians and Yoruba Muslims had no other alternative than succumb to pressure that was mounted on them by Yoruba Christians by installing Ambode as Lag state gov and he's going to be the last Christian governor according to the source

2, You hardly see Yoruba Muslims christianizing northeners the way they treat southern Christians even if their brothers Yoruba Christians are involved all because of religion.

3,'Do u know that Yoruba muslins kept quite when Northeners said that Osibanjo (a christian)won't succeed Buhari come 2019 but quick to critisize one of their own Ffk who happens to be a Christian as well for speaking out and condemn the comment made by northerners about Osibanjo's not succeeding Buhari come 2019. Yoruba Muslims did this because they share the same faith with Buhari

3, Are you also aware that there are more Muslim governors in SW than Christian governors ?
I PITY YORUBA CHRISTIANS !!.
One day, you guys will wake up and find out that even the little ones you have have been handed over to Muslim northeners by your muslim brothers.

YORUBA CHRISTIANS WAKE UP NOW

WAKE UP !
WAKE UP!!
WAKE UP!!!

Kkkkkkkkkk is this all you can do?, I was born a Muslim, I grew up Muslim, I'm married to a Muslim but we are both Christian now, are you trying to get me to wake up and fight my father because you are frustrated?.
The more you look the less you see, here in SW we are a very big family, so you don't know that the most important thing around here is our acknowledgements of God?, his omnipresent, Omnipotent, omniscient?, we acknowledged him as the Alpha and the Omega.
We acknowledged and appreciate his works as the source and sustainer of everything he created.
We don't care about anybody's religion, how anybody or everybody serve God is not anybody's business around here, I hope you dig it.

kingzizzy:
Stop talking 'SS' and stick to your tribe instead of speaking for others.

Did anyone hold a referendum for you to be a Nigerian? Yet you are a Nigerian today? If you can accept to be a Nigerian without a referbdum then you should be applauding the Biafrans who want everyone to be Biafran by referendum

Why force referendum on other tribes?, you no know the boundaries of Igboland?.
Oh I forgot, you guys are land grabbers, wonder shall never ends, a tribe that hate others now wants to play lovey dovey because it will help their selfish domineering agenda.
How about encouraging the SS and MB to struggle for their own Independence?, you said they were slaves in Nigeria, yet you want to force them into another in Biafra helloooo who exactly are you trying to fool?.
Even with the so called referendum, did you guys honestly think these people will follow you.
The world has evolved beyond your myopic view, what seeds have your fathers sown into the lives of the people you want to take with you, other than exploitation?.
Or don't you think that one good turn deserves another?.

icedfire:


This is the perfect excuse and time for the South (south south, East and west) to push for restructuring or a referendum.

South East leaders need to be proactive. Somebody should push the bill or motion. Who will bell the cat

Stop lumping SW with your agenda, who among your folks support the Lagos bill?.

deedeedee1:
Ma tanra e! Sogbo? Yoruba will never accept to live in a country with you. Living in a country with two majority is far much worse than with three. The moment nigeria split, you will see smaller tribes fighting for a their own country.

To them Nigeria is Lugard's contraption but Southern Nigeria is not, selfish people everything must work in their favor as if everyone is their toy.

Billyonaire:
Still makes sense. The SW must apologize to Biafrans and we all can come together and abrogate the expired 1914 Amalgamation Treaty.

We need to know the mind of the SW brothers, they are neither here or there. I hate to call them cowards, but I am being forced to think that FFK and Fayose are the real champions who understand tomorrow.

Who you be?, apologize for what exactly?.
You see why we need to go our separate ways?
What exactly do Yorubas stand to gain by being in the same country with leeches or you think we are fools around here?.
It is no longer Yorubas are Afonja, Yorubas are hateful, they are cowards, it is now Yoruba must apologize.
You better go and get serious with your Biafra struggles, Yorubas are seriously waiting to flush you out as soon as you declare your Independence.

Statsocial:
God bless you. See one of the hindrances to southern unity is social media but I would keep warning as many fellow Yorubas that would care to listen-we need to choose alliance carefully. We as a region also wants to grow and there is no way the North won't pull us back with their religious extremism especially if the ibos exits Nigeria. It would reduce and stem the political influence of the south west. If the SS joins the SE then we are more in trouble. How do we in the SW carry the weight of the entire North-how would we make them grow when they wield more politically. Admitting that the exit of the Igbos makes Yorubas politically weak on this country is not cowardice but pragmatism. If the north can oppress all of us even with a full south then they would destroy us with an incomplete south.

Secondly, the religious diversity in the south west works to our disadvantage because even though we are very tolerant people, we can't deny that sometimes we may tilt towards religious bias rather than ethnic one. And if we ever go alongside religious bias we are then in trouble because it would make us vulnerable.

Now concerning the issue of biafra I believe also in self determination for the SE, SS, SW- however pending the time of secession we need to join forces to form a powerful political bloc that can resist the North. I would have called for a southern secession but the SW cant commit to that because of the religious diversity hence the SW is better off on its own.

Join forces with who, every man for himself God for all of us.

mekuzi09:
Its high time this nonsense tribal war come to and end on this forum. Its not healthy and its doing no good. Even if we all go our separate ways, we are still going to be neighbors. Yorubas, Igbos and others, please, sheath your sword. Tribalism and hate is not Godliness.

If not for Nairaland, I won't know what an average Igbo person thinks of me as a Yoruba.
You don't want people to know the truth?, only the truth can set us free.
Just like you, i wastes so much time trying to discourage tribalism but Nairaland changed that, God bless Nairaland.
Now let me tell you, the Igbo man that won the house of rep sit in Oshodi would not have succeeded if the voters in Oshodi are aware of the kinds of hatered Igbos have for Yoruba.
It is better for forums like Nairaland to exist so that all of us can know where we belong.

omoharry:
Divide into two first then biafra can now separate if they don't want to remain in the south...but without the north and true federalism in place..then those agitating for their own country might be doing it out of old grudges they have toward the other tribe.

Says who, break this country into many pieces let like minds come together to form a country.
I want an only Yoruba country, I don't want any stone HENGER to accuse me of marginalisation just because he cannot match my intellectual prowess.

Dalek:
make i hear word, who controls ECOWAS??
no international law can force any alien to move freely in Nigeria. Nigeria as a sovereign Nation will decide who enta or not.
why usa no allow all of Mexico to enta na.
and why una wan enta Nigeria again?? shebi na zoo??

As in this people are just funny.

Reno don become an Afonja, wetin happen na?.

kingzizzy:
We should be civilised people. Break up does not have to be bad blood. Britain just left the EU. The EU are not happy but they are still willing to work with Britain.

Biafra and Nigeria can still do a lot mutually beneficial things, just not as one nation.

Tell me one thing Nigeria can benefit from Biafra, the problem with you guys is that you think everyone is stuck in stone HENGE like you.

kingzizzy:
If you take Britain that just left the EU, over 3 million EU citizens in the UK. Will Britain deport them? No, not really.

In the event of Biafra seceding from Nigeria, both sides will have to discuss the sharing of assets, liabilities and debts. This means that there will be a discussion on 'Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens. A 'transition period' will have to be agreed on to allow the agreemwnts take effect


It is not likely that Nigeria will start deporting all Igbos straightaway as this could illegal under international law. Another reason why Nigeria wont do this is because it will damage Nigeria and the Nigerian economy irreparably before the international community. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again when hear that Nigeria deported millions of people it once called brothers.

Such mass deportations only destroys the credibility of a country

See those crying and wailing to be free from the zoo.
Leave credibility matter face your country.

omoharry:
Nigeria under true federalism is far better than a split up Nigeria...but anything outside from this is, then it would be better the country split between the north and south..the south can now decide if they wish to establish their true federalism where all regions will be responsible for to manage their affair and pay tax to the centre...that is a better picture.

Nothing like SOUTHERN NIGERIA, let everyone answer their fathers names.
Southern Nigeria will be another opportunity for some normadic tribes to come and turn other people's lands to refugee camps.
Those who want to break the country had better prepare for the aftermaths before pressing the button, a word is enough for the wise.

Me77:
Maybe. this ismy personal observation. most of the ibos i interacted with, over here are very much disinterested in this whole biafran craze. they all came out for their respective businesses yesterday it seems only those in the south that are very active about the biafran stuff.

An honest question for my biafran peeps.
if in the long run you succeeded in achieving your biafran nation....
1) what Will your economy depends on? (I.e your sources of income revenue and exportation)
2) with your population can your economy cater for majority of the populace?
3) The biafran states are all land locked. how are you people going to go about importation and exportation of goods, services? since mostly import and export are ideally held at the sea port.
4) What basically are the food crop and livestock produced in biafran land? are they enough to feed the populace? as in the case during the biafran War, when general Gawon ordered the blockade the result was a wide scale massacre by starvation. are they any plan to this problem if by chance it arises Again? and
5) Have your elders learned from South Sudan? are they any precautions in place to avoid the South Sudan scenario?

They are Jews, all they need will fall from heaven.
I support them to have their country, it's long overdue.

Develpeast:
What will you lose in Biafra that you have not already lost in Nigeria.

You already know he will loose in Biafra and you still want to take him there, it is indeed a wicked world.

mathy001:
Which 60%? Statements like this are the reason why I will never support any Biafra where minorities are in.
Lets look at the stats now:
Edo: 1 Igbo community (Igbanke), est pop. 20,000
Delta: Just one senatorial district of which Ndokwa and Ika deny being Igbo, est pop. 1.2m
Bayelsa: No Igbo community
Rivers: Igboid groups dominated, est pop. 2m
Akwa Ibom: No Igbo community
Cross Rivers: one or two Igbo settlements, est pop 10,000


How does the above estimated 3.2m Igboid groups account for 60% of Niger Delta's 25milion population?

You see why we will never trust Igbos? You don't yet have Biafra but you feel you own the South. What will then happen when you do?

Just advocate for an igboid country and leave minorities in the South alone. They have nothing to gain but Igbo domination!

Una don wake up, thank God for una, the whole world already knows that Biafa is about the fight to take over the control of the oil rich Niger Delta.
Will Biafrans have includes ND in Biafra if there is no oil?, the joke is on them.

fulanmafia:
Doesn't change the fact that what you celebrate as strengths are actually what has made you 3rd class citizens in Nigeria, meaning you have failed to re-adapt your weaknesses.

Arrogance instead of Humility.
Impertinence instead of Diplomacy.
Pugnacity instead of Docility.
Lack of central leadership.

CHAI.

omenkaLives:
I pray their wish be granted before midnight in Jesus name, amen.

I just cant wait.

We are in the same boat, these guys just need to go.
They are stuck in stone HENGE, stone age is an understatement, CHAI.

Odua ni mi tokan tokan, I believe in independent Yoruba land, how can I continue to share the same country with those who are stuck in stone HENGE, to call it a stone age is an understatement.

Kyase:
and you think thats possible?

Hey I'm not the one begging to be free from Nigeria, I'm only trying to help those who want out.
It is possible, every one in Nigeria have their homelands.

Kyase:
unless every tribe will return to its region before the breakup if not...

Very good idea, make every tribe return to their region.

ZKOSOSO:
The EASIEST way out of the Quagmire is cutting out completely the HausaFulaniKanuris-Muslims regions from Nigerian.

This is the bitter truth. It May sound funny and harshly but check out all of our history as a nation since 1914 to date. You will discover that the HausaFulaniKanuris-Muslims are the only problem with peaceful and prosperous nation.

Says who?, every tribe is guilty, I won't even want to apportion blames if I were you, if you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.
Enough of political mpokiti dance, let everyone answer their papa name, simple.

[quote author=Kyase post=57015061]lets be sincered bro, the next thing after "peaceful disintergration" the next thing will be war, either civil war or external war with neighbours. That alone will put many out of work.[/quote

Which war are you talking about? You mean if we all agree to go our separate ways, some people will come back to fight against the agreement?. Do you foresee that happening in Nigeria?, every tribe knows their boundaries in Nigeria.
Though I'm not ruling out some people trying to take what doesn't belong to them, that is not an excuse for the current situation of things.
Did you see what happened to Saddam when he tried to annex Kuwait?.
The world has gone beyond big countries swallowing up smaller nations.
Every country no matter how small is a member of the United nations, unless that small country agree to become a member of another country, the UN will not fold it's arms.

Kyase:
have you considered other factors that make people not to work

What are the factors let's hear them.
How did our people survive before colonization?.
Did you know that in Yoruba land for example, people organize themselves into societies to work on members farms? to make roads, to build houses and more.
Anyone who is not up and doing will not be accepted by any society in that area, no one wants to be left out so everybody needs to sit up.

farem:
As long as they are qualified, devoid of ethnic or sectional bias. As long as no one is willfully shortchanged, no problem!

Don't mind him, he is probably trying to tell us that other churches are being marginalzed by Oshinbajo.
Bloody noise makers, Oshinbajo was discovered and groomed by a Moslem Tinubu, thank God Tinubu is not a Christian, he would probably favour his church members of which Oshinbajo is not.
Only people who are qualified are good enough for every position, if Oshinbajo have them close to him, should he go about combing the Churches so as not to seen as favouring the Redeemers?.
@ OP shame on you.

Kyase:
Breaking up Nigeria will spell doom to most region, some will scramble to survive, civil war within some of the new countries will erupt,killing of foreigners in some of the new countries will not be avoided, and again 3 countries wont work based on what is on ground, SS, NC, SE they won't last. Unless there's some merging in some components, like some states in SS will merge with some in SW and SE while some NE states will merge with NW and some of NC will go to NW and vice verser. No mind my english. Na my opinion be that.

The new countries will work provided the people there are willing to make it work.
Why are some states in country working while others are not?, it is the question of the people.
When the country is divided, the people will come to terms with the reality of their situation and they will be condemned to either survive or perish.

divinehand2003:
Bk

Even if we break up along geopolitical, ethnic, or religious lines, I assure you most solemnly, it won't change a thing because people won't change their behavior and corruption will still thrives. Besides, there will be other New challenges, issues and problems that will arise. The black race, Nigeria inclusive, is programmed in such a parochial way so as not to make meaningful progress because of our inbuilt retrogressive and backward thought processes.

The black race needs help and deliverance.

Let us break this country into manageable sizes.
Nigeria is just too big to manage as one country, look at Europe, some countries are not even up to 3 million in population and they are doing quite well.
Some people in this country has refused to evolve, they will always be a draw back for those striving to move forward so let's break this country up.

EvilMetahuman:
gimme a break abeg.

Yoruba demanded the same in 2011, instead what did we get?
This
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-
marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Did yorubas set the country on fire cos of this? Nope
Did we go about abusing other tribes for the marginalisation we did not even deserve?


To think we even voted for this same gej.

Instead, we went back to the drawing board.
Why can't these people do the same instead of trying to blackmail us with Biafra chant?

Drawing board?, they don't even have one.