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JoaquinElChapo:
mtcteeeeew they r arewas

I don't think so: https://www.nairaland.com/3445884/okun-yoruba-leaders-kogi-state

And says who again?

Your ignorant self didn't even know about them until now and as soon as you learned, you've already proclaimed their identity.

Talk to me when you learn basic geography of Nigeria.

ednited:
Really? My first time hearing that. . .

Really you have never heard of FESTAC 77. Festac stands for Festival of Arts and Culture. It's probably, one of the largest festival ever held in the World. It was almost kind of like an olympic of African cultures.

It was a one month long event that took place in 1997 in Lagos specifically in 4 venues which are the national arts theater, National Stadium in Surulere, Lagos City Hall and Tafawa Balewa Square. The festival featured art, music, theatrical performances, literature and history throughout the continent.

The FESTAC village was constructed to accomodate the 17,000 people who participated in the festival. The National arts theater was also built specifically for the event. The event had participants from all the countries in Africa as well as some from the Americas. It was backed by UNESCO and many organizations.

Here is a 1977 promo, the time 16:33- 17:05 is about Ethiopia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAIGgWNHbY

Hati13:
Simply beautiful!
The man upper cloth can't be match by others. The ladies and their dress are beautiful.

If I've to choose the most beautiful, I will go with the man and last girl.

From which material is the men upper cloth made of?
Do some neighboring countries also wear it?

And also let me show you the Afar people(they live largely in Ethiopia and in small number in Eritrea and Djibouti).

The main fabric used in those clothing is ankara. They are part of modern Nigerian wear, they aren't necessary the most traditional wear and yes it's very common throughout West Africa and beyond. Other fabrics used in modern Nigerian fabric are lace and "native". These became part of the modern Nigerian attire.

Also, I like those Afar wear. They are very light, probably because of the scorching sun. I've noticed the Afar wear differs from that of Amhara likewise the Amhara also differs from Oromo. The same reality is in Nigeria. Every ethnic group has its own wear, so the modern Nigerian is the blended and very modernized version of the original traditional clothing. By traditional, I'm talking about what people wore like 400 years ago before any modern adaptation. I see that in some of the Ethiopian posts, the same modernization is happening. For example, I can almost distinguish what is modern Ethiopian and what's ancient.

ednited:
@genieluv @Nowenuse @9jakol

check hip pop in Amharic, very wierd thinking of it but cool hearing it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsRtiabpG3A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNWLq6MJAZw&itct=CBoQpDAYACITCNSrodzY0dQCFUW4VQodl3YF2VIUTGlqIG1pY2hhZWwgZXNodXJ1cnU%3D&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en

Very nice!
A lot of Ethiopian music has that kind of upbeat to it like you are supposed to dance with it. Do you agree?

Fidha254:
Look at the map properly, its only in Kenya where geographically speaking, three different demographics almost equally occupy...
The only other place that has a similar thing is Nigeria although the nilotes only have a small portion in the north east.

Anyone who has the notion that kenya doesn't have a culture needs to get his head checked

There is culture in Kenya, I don't think most people are debating that. If they are, then they aren't being very logical.

By similar, then yes, there are three main language families in Nigeria. There are more language families than that if you include language isolates like the unclassified Cèntûm language, but we are talking about major language families.

That small portion you hinted at is an area home to millions of people and diverse ethnic groups. Also, the people you are referencing aren't Nilotes either, even though they are Nilo-Saharan speakers as the map suggests. Nilo-Saharan is comprised of many groups of people which is mostly made up of Nilotic and Saharan speakers. The Saharan groups live in NE Nigeria. The largest being the Kanuri. Others include Kanembu, Tedda, and Dassa. Other Nilo-saharan groups that are neither Saharan nor Nilotic are the Zarma/Songhai in the Sokoto area.

Here are the Saharan groups I'm talking about.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/89/10/90/89109037b90262216f66c05cebac1aab.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/4a/bb/744abbbb32921a06412dcd768b5e03d3.jpg

https://68.media.tumblr.com/658ae691ad6d4dedda812b3ff9f12d19/tumblr_mjo8uhqrNO1retv03o1_1280.jpg

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6124/6033201138_ef69bebbd7_b.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/76/5b/47/765b47ee727e24221678122c6320e5bc.jpg

Amoto94:
OP Ebira is an ethnic group consisting of different tribes they can be found in Kogi, Nasarawa, Edo, Benue. They are the largest minority groups in southwest due to migration for farming and commercial purposes.

Some people will have us believe that the Igbos are the largest minority group in the SW. Do you agree?

AshiwajuFoward:
Some of you igbos are so ignorant that it ain't even funny. Ilorin was never conquered in any battle. The city's inhabitants willingly accepted the emirate system in line with their strong Islamic affiliation. The city was never conquered nor subdued in any battle as you and your Ilk would like to paint and believe. Afonja had already lost the confidence of his ilorin Yoruba muslim brethren by the time the fallout between he and Alimi occurred.

In 1895, the Yoruba rose against the then emir, burnt his palace and killed him. But the revolt did not result in enthronement of a Yoruba king -- it certainly would have if those Yorubas that perpetrated this act were under bondage of emirate oppression and domination, as you like to paint it.

In 1913, when Lord Lugard administered the northern and southern Nigeria, Yorubas again spearheaded a riot over tax to bring the rulership of the then emir to ridicule.

In 1936, the Yorubas of ilorin yet again ousted Emir Abdulkadir who was banished to Kaduna but was later reinstated by the colonial administration.

For all intents and purposes, the emirate is a mere traditional institution that exists only because ilorin Yorubas (not even the entire Kwara folks sef) still chose for it to remain, as the above history shows. You people just talk crap about what you know little to nothing about.

Just leave them and let them dwell in their ignorance. I once confronted one of them not long ago and I asked him to name one area of the same Ilorin he apparently know of as a Northern enclave, and he couldn't name one single area in Ilorin.

I know of the events you cited there. In Ilorin, the traditional Yoruba chieftancy are still present and maintains some sort of influence.
In 1935 for example, the balogun and other notable chiefs in Ilorin boycotted the emir's palace.

If it wasn't for the British involvement, the emirate system would have been abolished long time ago. The British were known for removing emirs and installing puppet emirs who will do their bidding. Ilorin was no exception this. Many who carry Ilorin issue over their head don't really know the history of that town nor stepped foot there ever in their lives. They don't even know that there are more Nupes in Ilorin than Fulanis they keep shouting over. Ilorin is just like any other town in the Sw. There are probably towns in Oyo state and the SW in general that are more Islamic than Ilorin. You should have seen how the emir received the Ooni just days ago.

ednited:
The dance move is called -ESKISTA

I started Eskista since I was a kid. I was really good at it but the more I grow is the less I Eskis. I think I got shy when I grow up, I stopped doing it

We still hear Oromo and Tigray songs. Addis Ababa is a city of diversity. Every tribe lives in here. If you go to other city for example, they only hear their own tribe song. Addis Ababa is a welcoming city to all.

My favourite Oromo singer is Abush Zeleke

from Tigray, I hear Dawit Neg's song

I like Eskista, it looks really fast. There is also this one dance from the Shewa Oromo that looks pretty cool; they shake their head really fast.

Abush zekele is one of my favorite Ethiopian singer. I've listened to Amootee and Fullanneey. I came across him by accident.

ednited:
Yes, your music is highly westernized. Av also created a topic on this 'my worry on african music'

Thank you for all the nice comment and for promoting our music!

btw timaya have once mentioned me after I commented on him

Thank you for all the nice comment and for promoting our music!

btw timaya have once mentioned me after I commented on him [/quote]African music or at the very least the Nigerian afrobeat is a genre that stands out on its own. It's a combination of African and Western Music styles and it uses . The legendary late Fela Kuti is often regarded as the father of afrobeat. He was a man from a different era because he was so progressive for his time. In his music, he uses his native Yoruba instruments like shekere and drums as well as western instuments like saxophone and guitar. He often performs his concerts shirtless.

His son, Femi Kuti, also a musician just made history having held the longest note on a saxophone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqB2ZNlEgUA

Ednited, have you ever heard of the FESTAC even of 1977? I think it's one of the most important event in African's modern history.

JoaquinElChapo:
so it's by force to join a country? All these Afonjas
If they refuse to join, put gun to their heads and force them. Thieves

I'm done with this conversion since you aren't knowledgeable about the geography of Kogi state and cannot reason with what I said, so it removes the possibility of having a reasonable argument.
As for the Okun Yorubas, I'll wait for them to release their notice that they are not Afonjas.

mightyhaze:
so u guys shd stop spewing malicious lies dat ppl don't sell pptys to u. Just own up to ur timid nature of travel aversion

I've never heard of that claim, ever.

Again, I couldn't care any less. Who in their right mind boasts of traveling everywhere. Is that a measurement of accomplishment or success? None of this makes sense. By the way, it's not travel aversion as you put, there are perhaps hundreds of thousands of Yorubas all the way in Ghana for example. Due to the large presence, all Nigerians in Ghana are referred to Anago, a Yoruba term. Yorubas have been living in Kontagora centuries ago, before the Nigeria was even dreamt of. Yorubas expanded their empire and trade influence to four countries hundreds of years ago.

The reason you don't see a large presence of Yorubas in wherever you are from is not because they don't like to travel, but rather a matter of choice. How many Yoruba businessmen from Osogbo would want to invest in Makurdi or Owerre as opposed to Lagos which is closer, not that you won't find Yorubas in those places as well. The real answer is it's a matter of choice, and nothing more.

mightyhaze:
lol! Thruout my stay in benin,..the only yorubas I encountered were agbo jedi sellers, a few tailors and just one man selling talkin drums at lagos street.I hardly met a yoruba trader,much less a yoruba landlord. So benin is equally hostile to dem?

I met hausa ppl alot,but only wheelbarrow pushers and multitude of laborers dat sleep at. Mosques. They won't even rent a room from benin landlords sef talkleSs of ownng a single plot of land. Benin is also not selling to strangers?

Who cares if Yorubas don't have a big presence in Benin or Bayelsa? Is migrating to every region something to be proud of?

sean1000x:
My brother God bless you. Afonjas are the people peddling that monstrous lie. The fact is simple...they don't have disposable income like Igbos to acquire properties in SE, SS and even in their regions. Go to Lagos, how many Yorubaas own properties there? Not many. In my street when I was living there, all properties were owned by Igbos and few SS and Northerners. All Yorubaas are renting in their land. How do you expect them to buy properties in SE and SS, when they can't even buy properties in their own land? Buy in your land first before looking to buy elsewhere. Igbos own 99% of the properties in their region.

I don't even care about this issue that much nor do I have hate. But next time you beat your chest, use more believable statistics like 30%, 40% or even 50% or 60%. Saying 99% takes away from your credibility thus making your claim seem unbelievable.

onuwaje:
can u reference me to a document?

i haven't heard of "bunu" before

Bunu are Yoruba subgroup mainly from Kabba/Bunu LGA in Kogi state. Bunu are part of the larger Okun umbrella. They are very notable for their distinct clothing and dyeing art.
I can't really find much on the internet so here:
https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf.php?id=1149

JoaquinElChapo:
Kogi can never be oduduwa

Even though I don't agree with the map fully, specially seeing that the entire Kogi state is included, but I hate to break it to you, about a third of Kogi belongs to Oduduwa race from Isanlu Esa on the border with Kwara to the confluence.

Oduduwas are in Kogi. Deal with it.

felicitywe:
What s Lokoja doing on dat map?Pls remove it.OP you want Yorubas to kill us with extreme tribalism hatred deception and betrayal backstabbing and stealing? pls remove Lokoja.

I guess you have never heard of Oworo or Okun Yorubas.

BininEmpire:
We know only one traditional ruler in Kwara and that's the Emir of Ilorin,

ILORIN IS AN EMIRATE

It's the same way some ignorant people think South-South is all Igbo. Maybe they are right.

Since you know Ilorin better than the Yorubas themselves, oya give me an area of Ilorin with a brief description.

onuwaje:
u ve to back up this claim with enuf evidence

Lol, Bunu is not a tribe, they are a Yoruba subgroup. This is not even a debate.
Also, what ethnic griup is called Sokoto.

onuwaje:
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That map is not completely accurate either.
For one, the Bunu are a Yoruba subgroup.

ababda:
In regards to language family in regards of ancient meroitic language in antiquity, it is unclassified by modern scholars.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroitic_language





Linguistically it has always been a mixture of two groups


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerma_Culture

Was I lying when I said Nubians are Nilo-Saharan speakers? As for the unclassified Meroitic language, I've already established that fact pages ago on page 1074. I am very aware of the language classifications in the region. Here is one of my post:

9jakool:
The ancient Kushites generally likely spoke a Nilo Saharan language which developed into the Nubian languages. The language spoken specifically at Meroe, is unclassified due to controversy if it's Afro-Asiatic or Nilo-Saharan. Ancient Egyptian was definitely an Afro-Asiatic language which developed into the modern era as Coptic.

genieluv:
Yaaah u rite, buh not just yorubas of kwara n kogi. Kwara, Kogi n Benue state people do not use Hausa as a lingua franca in their homelands unlike the other 16 northern states.

***I see pidgin penetrating deeper into core yoruba, Igbo n even hausa areas as urbanization n awareness grows more n more. Pidgin is now becoming a very influential language in Nigerian media n entertainment, young people especially are becoming acquainted to it more n more.

You will agree with me that even in core yoruba areas, most educated young people can understand pidgin, or not? Here in Kaduna, it is likewise, especially in the southern parts, most young people even in the core areas can understand pidgin.

Ok,
For your question, pidgin is very understandable by a lot of people, but the preferred language spoken in Yorubaland is still Yoruba. Even in Lagos, Yoruba speak Yoruba to other Yorubas. I think Yoruba in a way is a lingua franca in Lagos alongside Pidgin with many ethnicities picking up the language.

genieluv:
More make-up free Nigerian women for you guys

The second girl is wearing makeup.

genieluv:
Sometimes, don't just criticize something for sake of criticism.
***Southern and northern Nigeria were 2 different colonial protectorates who were later merged together to become one. They were never envisioned to be one country but later became one. The histories n colonial policies of both protectorates were not the same and even after amalgamation (1914) to 1967, both protectorates which later became regions functioned completely independent of each other.

>>>>If northern Nigeria had gained her independence seperately, Hausa would have been the official language of the country cos it was promoted as a lingua franca just as swahili and it worked. Today, hausa can compete with swahili in number of speakers as about 150 million people speak it as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd language.

Pidgin developed as the lingua franca of southern Nigeria and is now dominating the entire Nigeria today.

Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi don't really speak Hausa, but other than that, Hausa is a lingua franca in the North.

Before Nigeria gained its independence, the British divided it into 3 regions, (Western, Eastern, Northern). If Nigeria was 3 countries, then Yoruba would be the national language of the West, Hausa for North, and Igbo for East. The only places you will actually find pidgin spoken are cosmopolitan cities like Port Harcourt, Warri, Lagos, Benin city, Abuja etc. If you go to the heart of Yorubaland for example you would hear more Yoruba than you would ever hear English or Pidgin.

Hausa is like Swahili in many ways and as it's spoken by many people as a second language.

Olu317:
My screenshot as opinion ? You know better than that... So, your perception of someone, with an English name who mentioned exactly his ancestors identity and you inferred again as not true? You know better than that... And what about the second man, Rabbi Matthew, that clarified the speculation about his identity and explained that , he came from Lagos and said,, he was an Ethiopian JEW descendant but his father stays in Lagos and work as a shoe cobbler ? Have you all of a sudden forgotten that even you knew that the name , “YORUBA " became accepted by all in 19th century because of language affinity ? Even you did mention it in one of your opinion on a different topic on a different fora. Kosher, you mentioned,? So, you don't know that Yoruba do feasting likened unto Kosher, Go and do research on the Cult group amongst the Yoruba. Then, you will get acquainted with new knowledge. Even in the ancient times, Yoruba have a day likened UNTO SABATH DAY, in which no one must work or do anything . Again, I had to let you know because it seems like you think someone like me will just inform on things I have no knowledge on? I don't get too deep with what I haven't any knowledge on, instead, I learn from it and it practically becomes acquired. Take a queue from it. Furthermore, I didn't fall from the sky and I don't see myself as a superior being because God created every human being at his own will. He, then, place anyone, wherever he so wishes . However, certain information were hidden in the past, but those white researchers have found their way to get a lot about Yoruba history and you kept knocking off fact without any evidence. That's where I disagree with you . And I had to go deeper so as to SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT AS IT IS. This is the reason I had to OPEN what you don't know and now you have acquired it. And I also uploaded the historical account of BLIER's research work at the Burial spot of the Ancestors of the house of Odu'a,which mentioned animals identify with them...

No hard feelings,just don't want you to counter an opinion without evidences. Information on ethnicity such as this forum need be well thought out before being churned to the public bro. Yoruba aren't atheists because WE PRACTISE EXTENDED FAMILY SYSTEM...... You know better.

Two or more people can share an opinion, even an obscured one at that. I'll lay out these question, why don't Yorubas follow Jewish Kosher or sacrificial laws? And who is Rabbi Mathew? What's his last name? What town in Ethiopia is his family from? What's his ethnicity? Why don't Yorubas use the Hebrew script? Why don't they use the torah? Why don't they celebrate mitzvah? Why don't they recognize passover? Why do Yorubas have orishas? Why do they use ifa? There are too many inconsistencies. For any correlations you can think of, there are tons of dissimilarities.

Hati13:
Sorry for categorizing them with Bantu. I thought they were. West Africa is very diverse like you pointed out. It's museum of diverse peoples. You also pointed out there isn't a pure ethnic group, but East Africans, especially Horn of Africans are also the same. None of the people in those areas aren't pure. All of them are the products of many centuries old extensive mixing between Cushites/Semites/Omotes/Nilotes.

And Habesha isn't ethnicity. It's just a term used for Amharas, Tigrays, Biher Tigrinya(Eritrea Tigrays), Gurage and Habesha. All those peoples are predominantly Cushite, but have relative minor backgrounds of Semite, Omote and Nilot.

Is Yoruba language categorize under Chadic family language?

Yes, you get most of my points. When I say alliance in West Africa isn't clear cut, I'm not necessarily talking about mixing or pure. I'm talking about how the aliance in West Africa isn't as clear cut in some instances, not that you don't have some like Mande, etc. I know what Habesha means and I never said Habesha is an ethnicity, that's why I used the word ethno-aliance. Habesha is like Mande peoples in Africa who are culturally tied peoples like Mandinka, Soninke, Mossi etc and speak related languages. Yoruba is both an ethnicity and an ethno-aliance. Yoruba is an etnicity like Amhara as wel as ethno-aliance like Habesha because it's just a unifying name for different but culturally, historically and linguistically related groups like Ijebu, Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, etc. Yoruba language belongs to YEAI branch of Volta-Niger languages

Hati13:
Look Brother, it's not just 9jakool, but other Yorubas had said they have no link with Ancient Hebrews.

Ok let just assume Yorubas have Hebrew bloodline, but large percentage of their DNA is Bantu. Which means they are more west African than Hebrew. So they are Bantu African. Take Habesha people of Ethiopia and Eritrea for example, they have some percentage of Semite ancestor, but they are majority Cushite, so they are Cushite African.

Thanks for the explanation again.

I honestly appreciate your efforts.
Yes, Yorubas are not Hebrew, and they are also not Bantu nor do they speak a Bantu language. Yorubas like most ethnic groups in West Africa fall under the West African umbrella which just describes a region with linked histories. Africa is very diverse from ethnolinguistic groups like Bantus, Nilotic, Semitic, Cushitic, Mande, Chadic, Omotic etc. West Africans don't exactly contribute a single or even a clear number of group of people. It's very different from East Africa, where you have clear cut ethno-alliance like Cushitic, Habesha, Omotic, Nilotic, and Bantu. In West Africa, it's not exactly that simple due to its complex diversity. Half of all 2,000 languages in Africa are spoken in just one region (West Africa) with around 25% of all African languages found just in Nigeria alone. Of the 300 languages the languages in the world that are consider Afro-Asiatic, half of them belong to the Chadic branch, a branch spoken in many parts of West Africa, especially in Northern Nigeria. I'm just saying this to show you how complex the area is.

Yorubas just associate themselves with other Yorubas, the only alliance or at the very least relationship Yorubas had is with their neighbors like Itsekiris, Ebiras, Nupes, Edoid, Gbes, Baribas etc. Most of these groups are classified by Linguists as Volta-Niger languages, although the term Volta-Niger in itself is just a loosely description of the area the ethnic groups are found and has no deep context among Yorubas.

Olu317:
it seems you are not a researcher but inferring your opinion. If you are so sure of your own Yoruba historical identity, kindly do me the honour. And Which of the Yoruba lineage do you belong? I am interested in reading about your personal identity, since you claim your information is based on your findings . BE INFORMED THAT I AM REFERRING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MY OWN LINEAGE WHICH IS ORANMIYAN( Adimula Descendant) SO, DON'T EVER CLAIM WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON. If you don't have information on an issue, kindly do your research and put it forward because your condemnation without evidences is perpetually UNINFORMATIVE.

Below do I attached partial information to nullify your view as it regard Barbados and other evidences for you to LEARN about MY ODUDUA DESCENDANTS AND ANIMAL ASSOCIATED WITH THEM; RAM and HIPPOPOTAMUS...

I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT LEARNED THIS VIA RESEARCH ; GET IT TO YOUR HEART HENCE, THAT I, OLU317 HAD WHITE RAM WITH NO BLEMISH KILLED FOR ME BY MY FATHER AS A SACRIFICE WHEN I WAS A YOUNG ADOLESCENT.
AND AGAIN MANY YORUBA DESCENDANTS KILL WHITE RAM TO DO REMEMBRANCE FOR THEIR ANCESTORS......

Lol, the guy said his father is descendant from Yoruba and his mother from Mende. He knows his family's origin to ethnicity yet his last name is Ford and he is Yoruba. He is Yoruba and instead of exploring his disconnected African lineage that is apparently partially Yoruba, he decided to be Jewish instead.

Actually, yours is an opinion and a very obscured one as it is not widely accepted, otherwise most Yorubas would be claiming they are descendant of Jewish.

What superiority complex are you trying to push? I don't care if you Oranmiyan descendant or not. As far as the world is concern, you are just a human being like the rest of the humans on earth. The apparent Oranmiyan descendant claiming origin to Oromo, Jewish and what not, doing everything in his might to cling to a foreign identity.

First of all, the animals used for Jewish sacrifice must be kosher. Sure rams are used often, other animals like deer, goat, bull, etc are also acceptable for zevah (animal sacrifice). In reality, Yoruba sacrificial rules do not adhere to the kosher standards. Dogs would never be used in a zevah.

For that last part, again I 9jakool HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR SUPERIORITY COMPLEX.

Olu317:
I do like your take on this but I guess you have not done the study very well on knot. The eternal knot is connected to different culture and religion with different part of the world and with its meaning. But it is only in Yoruba the KNOT is connected to ROYALTIES..... Can you explain the reason? Considering the position ascribed to SOLOMON. Then on circumcisions, I disagree with you because it is important to emphasize here that Yoruba circumcisions is originally 7 days/8 days /9 days respectively. Truly Some part in Yoruba land do a lot of females mutilation but not all Yoruba do it. It is not only Ijebus. Even among some Yoruba people in part of Ekiti,Kwara, Akoko too. Not all Yoruba do mutilation. And those that did it was as result of diversion from the tradition. Study carried out showed that it was to discourage females from promiscuity that led to such practices. There is no where in the history of Yoruba that children circumcisions were originally older than seven (7) , eight ( days and nine (9) days . The first 7 and 8 days are some times used for female, while 8 days is specifically for male child and 9 days is twin etc naming ceremonies . The Yoruba tradition on circumcision is interwoven with cleansing. So do more research on this because all these information aren't sixty (60) years old research but ancient. The Yoruba identity on circumcisions is different from many groups in Africa. Apart from Ibos, whose circumcisions is a bit close to Yorubas. It's only on complication or IFA consultations that could hinder naming ceremony cum circumcision if such arise but naturally, it was within a week after bbirth.
If you think, some of us are attaching sentiment to Hebrews, then, isn't it right for you to verify the semblance and compare? Then dispel it if you have evidence against someone like me who and aothers that have knowledge on this information. The Bible is the oldest book with written spans of 1,600 years before its completion. No written book match the Bible in terms of its accuracy on prediction of events that took place 100+ of years after many prophesies . It is the Hebrews that there were mentioned with record of twin birth, how do Yoruba have the highest rate of twins in the world? May be you have a defence on it. I posted the ritual worshipping of Olodumare/Olorun/Eleda/Eledua on here and compare it with fowl sacrificing with Hebrews of old?

If you do have information contrary kindly show on the forum.

The people who popularize the Solomon knot and attributed the knot to King Solomon were not even the Jews, but the Romans which was referred in Latin as "sigillum Salomonis." The knot was attributed to Solomon because his wisdom and knowledge. The knot does is not attributed to royalty in Judaism as it is in Yoruba culture. In some Chinese and Buddhist cultures, the eternal knot has a spiritual meaning.

Yes, I am going to say definitively and unapologetically that I do not know every single circumcision cultures among Yorubas. I simply know that there are varieties in the day of Yoruba's circumcision which differs from the Jewish standard 8th day and the fact that Ijebu people don't perform female circumcision. I also know that circumcision was more heavy among Oyo Yorubas. In no true Jewish culture would you find female circumcision. For me, that is enough to not want to draw any connections between Yorubas and Jews.

Also, Yes Yorubas must definitely be related to Jews because like you said "the Hebrews that there were mentioned with record of twin birth" and "Yoruba have the highest rate of twins in the world." Does that even sound coherent?

The things you put out and call "evidence" are not evidence. Evidence establish direct links and do not fall on the side of ambiguity, evidence that fail to do so are weak evidence. I can find two attributes between two objects and say a whale is big and an elephant is big, so the whale must be descendant from the elephant. That kind of logic simply does not work.

Nowenuse:
Nafada/Bajoga belongs to fulanis and some groups i can't remember now. Dukku belongs to bolewa.

You see, no hausa or fulani man has ever ruled Gombe state. The minority groups are in a majority in the state (like 65-70% of the population and majority are christians) while the remainder are fulanis. The fulanis just formed an islamic alliance with the muslim minorities to ensure only muslims rule the state and this has largely favoured the muslim minorities. e.g the current governor Ibrahim Dankwambo is Tera by tribe from Yamaltu/deba lga, the previous Danjuma Goje was Jukun-pindiga by tribe from Akko lga. Hashidu was bolewa by tribe.
Now, people who don't know may think these people are hausas or fulanis, but they are not.

There are no hausa indigenous territories in Gombe state.

So Fulanis are native to Nafada? The other ethnic group in Nafada-Bajoga are Ngamo.

lx3as:
Yorubas are not claiming to be Jews.
However, can you explain what Eternal knots (Solomon knots) design is doing on Aare Crown of Ooni, the 8-day-naming ceremony and circumcision, the twins' story of the last one becoming the Elder, and Yorubas' unexplainable resilience, tactics, priesthood and blessings in land, culture, wealth, etc?

Eternal knot is used in cultures around he world from China to ancient Ireland. It's not unique.
Actually before modern time, circumcision in Yorubaland had variations, a lot of the time it was done weeks or months after, Also, unlike in Judaism, Yoruba male and female traditionally go through circumcision, the only exception is the Ijebus. In Judaism, only the male goes through circumcision as the woman is considered "pure" from birth. I sure hope you are not trying to establish a pseudo theory to form some sort of link.

Nowenuse:
No need to confirm cos am here.
@9jakool, Dukku LGA is owned by Bolewa ethnic group and not hausas. Bolewas are also indigenous to neighbouring northern bauchi and southern yobe.

Only Bauchi state (among all the north-eastern states) is likely to have indigenous hausa population (in the northern parts of the state).

Thanks for clarifying. I knew they were in Nafada lga, I think the confusion comes because they are mostly Muslim. @genieluv

Hati13:
I read Saladin existed in the 12th century, not early 1st century like you stated.
How many Yorubas practice Judaism this days?

Hati13, please you have to hear me out here. There is no such thing as "Yoruba Judaism." As for your question, you will hardly find a Yoruba person practicing Judaism. You would come across more Atheists than you will ever come accross Jews. Most of the so-called "Nigerian Jews" are from the Igbo ethnicity. In fact, many Yoruba don't take the Igbo jews seriously. Yorubas see it as claiming something. The Yoruba kingly lineage is from a legendary figure known as Oduduwa, not Judah or David or something like that. Also, Arnold Ford is not Yoruba, he's from the country of Barbados.

Yorubas do not claim Jewish ancestry. Any mentioning of Isreal or Judaism is not found in the literary corpus called Ifa.
Yorubas are African to the core!