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ExpertEDITOR:
I hope you are not a lawyer cos u will be a failed one.

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Dude, your JUVENILE insults merely betray the lack of a substantive argument and a crude family upbringing.
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ExpertEDITOR:
You are the one having comprehension issues. Where is the court that permitted police to hold him more than 48hrs?

You mean police can interpret the law as they please? If yes, why did they have to sort the advise of ministry of justice in the first place? And ministry of justice itself can't superimpose on the Federal Constitution.

Arguing with you is kinda pointless cos u re myopic about the subject matter.

Still struggling with basic comprehension?

BOTH the Ministry and the Police are acting in ACCORDANCE with the Constitution...
Only in Nairaland’s School of Jurisprudence is that considered “superimposing” on the Constitution.

PS: Btw (though this is a different discussion that I do not necessarily want to venture into), even though only the courts can rule on the law and the Constitution, scores of other executory bodies (the police, prosecutors, arbitrators, mediators, etc.) actually have the relatively mundane task of “interpreting” the law on a DAILY basis. Whenever even LAWMA) stops you, they’re effectively “interpreting” the law.
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ExpertEDITOR:
You are the one having comprehension issues. Where is the court that permitted police to hold him more than 48hrs?

You mean police can interpret the law as they please? If yes, why did they have to sort the advise of ministry of justice in the first place? And ministry of justice itself can't superimpose on the Federal Constitution.

Arguing with you is kinda pointless cos u re myopic about the subject matter.

emmyN:
Charge and bail lawyer, na so una dey confuse client . From that section you quoted it can be obviously inferred that only the Judiciary has the power to set a "reasonable time" longer than 48 hours. Since 48 hours have elapsed and no court has sat to set that reasonable time, it's therefore beyond the powers of the Police to keep him in detention. Their limit stops at 48 hours.

Wallade:
The highlighted is illegal when a competent court of law did not pronounce or approve it.

That determination is made RETROSPECTIVELY...
If there’s a court available to “pronounce” it, it would not be required in cases like these.

We have to confine this discourse to the PARTICULAR case at hand...
There are DIFFERENT cases where courts are available, but the police would ask for more time to charge.

Let’s stick to the peculiar facts of THIS case!
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Wallade:
Oga, Bail is a right except when the release of the accused may negatively influence the process of Justice and the police can't determine that speculation. It is only a court of law that can acertain that speculation. Hence, the police have to get the warrant to detain him legally for longer period, beyond 48hrs.

What the police is doin currently is illegal.

Bail is DISCRETIONARY, even for bailable offenses...
Thus, only real right is CONSIDERATION to bail for a bailable offense.

And for the umpteenth time...
Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution provides for detention WITHOUT CHARGE beyond 48 hours.

Still waiting for you to show us what sections of the Constitution makes the detention “illegal”.
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princemillla:
Read your post again u shot urself in the leg

I’ll be “lazy” and defer to you to show me the supposedly self-inflicted “shot”...
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princemillla:
Don’t twist my word, I will never condone anyone molesting minor. It disgust me. What we r saying is his right is being trampled on and this Is a clear sign there is power that be in play here

NOPE! His right is most certainly NOT being trampled upon...
Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution allows police to hold a suspect beyond 48 hours without arraignment.
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Wallade:
No! The police isn't acting in accordance with the Constitution.

Of course, they are...

I have provided the SPECIFIC constitutional provision...
Feel free to provide yours that shows they are not doing so.

Will be waiting.
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Oracleforce:
There will be a surety Standing for him.... the police or court will determine the kind of surety the suspect must present before he can be released on bail.
But I thought Iyabo Ojo was saying he will come and disgrace Fabiyi if he comes to Panti police State. Yoruba woman with empty threat.. .the threat that will land her in jail.....
Maybe somebody has advised her better because all her comment on Instagram are devoid of logical sense....and anybody that doesn't join her unruly behavior online is tag as a rapist...I didn't blame her that she suppose to know that all suspects are term innocent until they are declared guilt by the competent court of jurisdiction...
It is now I know the crops of Yoruba actors and actresses ....85 percents of them are a bunch of illiterate and ignorant and ignoble, and ignoramus and disaster in the society...
That's the reason why I can not watch any of these Yoruba movies because most of them are trashy substances...

All these artists are a disgrace to the Yoruba race.

Like the sureties who stood for Nnamdi Kanu?!
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princemillla:
Nija constitution so fvckd up. What was he charged for molesting minor. Else am not gettin the whole gist well.

And I presume you think that’s not a big deal...smh
Hopefully, your own minor child would not get molested by an adult old enough to be her dad.
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ExpertEDITOR:
Your name opposes your post. You logically tried to explain this abnormalities away but you still can't. Actually, there is no way to explain it. Nigeria police should act under the armpit of law not being a law unto themselves.

Comprehension issues?!

The Constitution is the grund norm of the law, and all other law and authority flow from it...
The Police is acting IN ACCORDANCE WITH (not contrary to) Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution!
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Wallade:
The court does not have to grant bail, the police who arrest the accused grants bail and bail is expected to be free. The police can do the documentation of your sureties and that is it.

The JUSUN strike should not delay his bail especially if his alleged offense is bailable.

Even for a bailable offense, bail is NOT as of right...

Any consideration on whether he would be granted an administrative (police) bail would depend on the peculiar circumstances of the case, including whether he poses a flight risk or would likely jeopardize the investigations or case (such as by harassing or intimidating witnesses, etc,). Personally, I think he is presently exactly where he belongs - until a court of law decides otherwise.
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MEGA4BILLION:
By the time he gets to court his lawyer will be arguing on unlawful detention not rape.

princemillla:
This case requires critical thinking/handling.

If truly his acts is bailable, he should be granted bail while he can still be charged to court. Or must the person be in police custody before he can be charged to court ?

This is unlawful detention Mr CP

ExpertEDITOR:
When is the advise from ministry of justice now superseding fundamental human rights as contained in the Nigerian constitution?

Nigerians only follow laws whenever we are at the receiving ends. And it is more funny that some people are supporting this madness all because they are feminists. Dumb mofos

OldNairalander:
They should get court injunction for extended detention.
I ain't supporting the release of that pedophile

Even for a bailable offense, bail is NOT as of right...

Nonetheless, what the Constitution actually provides is that a suspect be informed of his alleged offense within 24 hours in a writing and language he understands (Section 35(2) of the Constitution), and that such a suspect must be brought before a court “within a reasonable time” (Section 35(4)). The Constitution thereafter defines “a reasonable time” as 24 hours, 48 hours or (BEYOND the otherwise mandated 24 and 48 hours) ”such longer period as in the circumstances may be considered by the court to be reasonable” (Section 35(5)(b)). Given that the ongoing JUSUN strike has rendered the courts currently non-functional and therefore Baba Ijesha cannot be presently arraigned before a court of law, it would be deemed “reasonable”, and therefore CONSTITUTIONAL under the provision of Section 34(5)(b), to continue to detain him until the regular re-opening of the courts.

In the interim, any consideration on whether he would be granted an administrative (police) bail would depend on the peculiar circumstances of the case, including whether he poses a flight risk or would likely jeopardize the investigations or case (such as by harassing or intimidating witnesses, etc,). Personally, I think he is presently exactly where he belongs - until a court of law decides otherwise.
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murmee:
What do you mean by dastardly act? Did babaijesha force himself on the girl? Didn't you see in the video that the girl actually supported and
encouraged him to continue the romance?

And btw, it’s ‘the MOLESTATION’, not “the romance”...
If you insist on defending PAEDOPHILES, use the proper term.
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murmee:
What do you mean by dastardly act? Did babaijesha force himself on the girl? In the video, didn't you see how the girl encouraged the romance to continue? She was even laughing!

DISGUSTING, DISGRACEFUL AND DESPICABLE COMMENT BY A PRIMITIVE MISOGYNIST....
Do you understand the concept of minority and why the law does not enforce contracts by minors?
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Spot on to the police....
It’s the point I made on Nairaland a few days ago: https://www.nairaland.com/6545279/yomi-fabiyi-protest-baba-ijesha/6#101538624

Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution allows the Police to detain a suspect who has not been charged or arraigned before a court of law BEYOND the otherwise mandated 24 or 48 hours in (exceptional) circumstances that would be deemed “reasonable” given the particular factual circumstances. The NON-FUNCTIONING of courts due to the JUSUN strike is exactly one such circumstances.

9jaRealist:

Baawaa post=101522225:
Though you are somehow right,but nobody will support you on this protest it means you are on your own(OYO lowa)

Anthony0094:
He have the right to have a fair hearing in the court detaining him without court hearing is not right,

UDUJ:
Truth be told, it's a bailable offence. This is not murder.

ThatFairGuy1:
Without prejudice, he should be release on bail. Not because what he did was right but because the rule of law must be followed.

To those calling yomi fabiyi names because of this, asking security operatives to follow due process doesn't make him an accomplice. Don't be too emotional

OfficialBrendan:
If the offence is bailable according to the law..then they should grant him a bail already while charging him to court.
He is still a suspect until convicted by the court..not "social media" or "cctv". Even our politicians deny video evidence as "doctored" so he should get his date in court.

Even for a bailable offense, bail is NOT as of right...

Nonetheless, what the Constitution actually provides is that a suspect be informed of his alleged offense within 24 hours in a writing and language he understands (Section 35(2) of the Constitution), and that such a suspect must be brought before a court “within a reasonable time” (Section 35(4)). The Constitution thereafter defines “a reasonable time” to include (BEYOND 24/48 hours) ”such longer period as in the circumstances may be considered by the court to be reasonable” (Section 35(5)(b)). Given that the ongoing JUSUN strike has rendered the courts currently non-functional and therefore Baba Ijesha cannot be presently arraigned before a court of law, it is CONSTITUTIONAL under the provision of Section 34(5)(b) to continue to detain him until the regular re-opening of the courts.

In the interim, any consideration on whether he would be granted an administrative (police) bail would depend on the peculiar circumstances of the case, including whether he poses a flight risk or would likely jeopardize the investigations or case (such as by harassing or intimidating witnesses, etc,). Personally, I think he is presently exactly where he belongs - until a court of law decides otherwise.

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Officialgarri:
Once upon a time before the ascension of APC to power, you wouldn't have had the chance to freely take these pictures.

Going to these places, talk more of taking pictures is almost same as crossing into Boko Haram Shekau's compound to take pictures.

Although, while many soldiers and civilians were being slaughtered like chicken because of lack of weapons, some group of demonic people in power were sharing the money meant for weapons for re-election.

Exactly Bros! These days you get “concierge” service...
The terrorists will instead COME TO YOU at your school and pick you up!
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With all due respect, this is quite UNDERWHELMING...

And what do Nigerian institutions have against landscaping?
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ogbiwa:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/phil-foden-baby-child-cooke-23923974?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D&int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

He’s becoming a regular SCORER...
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owbabs:
Even though this news is commendable, that axis needs more roads constructed and better road network grid.
Failure to do this will cause serious lockjams in the future.
I am not exactly sure why the government thinks what the are doing is enough.

Construction of the Lekki Regional Road (which runs parallel to the Lekki-Epe Expressway) kicked off a year ago, while the Magbon Alade Highway project will commence this month (May). There will also be another highway that will extend from Freedom Way to Ilubirin/TMB. Longer term in the future, of course, would be the Fourth Mainland Bridge (planned to financial close this year) and the Green Line light rail. President Buhari has also green-lighted plans to extend the rail line to the Lekki Deep Seaport, so I think Lekki axis traffic will be OK.
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9japride:
There is a section of road in Kogi state constructed with concrete I believe it was done by Dangote. It has iron reinforcement in it, it looks very solid.

Yes, it was done by Dangote...
Same as the Oshodi-Apapa Expressway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH4FnJES7Fc

mbhs139:
Not necessarily the best bro. A road that doesn't take the safety of road users into consideration can't be described the way you have put it. if you know the number of lives that have been lost on several sections of that road, due to the fact that the population density and proper user design consideration was not put in place, like speed breakers and so on, you'd be shocked. Nevertheless, that is not to take the credit away from former Governor Ambode.

The reason for most accidents in Nigeria is POOR driving...
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LoydJ:
Well nice development,I wish they could Probably extend to Ajah also.

PS; The roads Ambode built @ Epe remains one of The best roads in Nigerian.
If road's where like that all over Nigeria there would be less of Traffic and accident.

This is only the first phase of the Eti-Osa to Epe expressway reconstruction project...
The SECOND phase is from Eleko Junction to Ajah (Abraham Adesanya Roundabout).

See linked story: https://nairametrics.com/2020/10/30/sanwo-olu-to-flag-off-eti-osa-lekki-epe-expressway-project/
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Lanrelagboi:
ONGOING Massive Construction of the 6-lane rigid pavement on Eleko Epe T junction by Messers Craneburg Construction. Governor of Lagos State, Mr Babajide Sanwo-Olu flagged off the construction on 1st November 2020.

#ForAGreaterLagos
#SanwoReports

Project Details:

- The Total Length of the road from Eleko Junction to Epe T junction is 18.75km.
- CONTRACTOR: Craneburg Construction
- Provision of reinforced concrete drains, Culverts and Median Barrier
- Installation of Traffic Lights
- Landscaping of Road Verges
- Preservation of rail line corridor with 50m RoW
- Installation of Street Lights
- Dedicated Truck Lane and Railway Line (for future).

- Road to serve as template for construction of road leading towards the Dangote Refinery, Lekki Ports and the Lagos Free Zones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXEt5XOUvQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lddyIMoQMoo

EKO ONI BAJE!
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toxtimmy:
Bullshit... We celebrate things that by right our leaders a since 1960 should have provided in 2021.

Nigeria is all foolishness and at it's peak... But by the way what about old people and handicaps?... How are they going to use the Keke nepe pedestrian bridge?... Oh, they did not think of elderly and handicap people so no elevator or maybe they budgeted for elevator but someone pocket the money?

My people perish for lack of knowledge.... We always see ourselves as deserving nothing hence we will get nothing as a people or tribe or country.

The reason that Lagos pedestrian bridges are designed the way they are is so that they can be wheelchair accessible. All the new bus (and the light rail) terminals are also wheelchair accessible, as are the public buses (BRT). Lagos has a Disability Law that MANDATES all government and public buildings (offices, banks, malls, hotels, etc.), built as from the date of the law, to be wheelchair accessible. It would overly costly to install and maintain elevators in all pedestrian bridges in Lagos (of which there are scores of such bridges), but perfection should NEVER be an enemy of doing better.
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Reference:
Oga. Cannot work here. There are far too many crossing points and far too many pedestrians for zebras to work in any large Nigerian city.

There are typically more people on our streets in both vehicles and on foot than on that of any developed country because our economy is largely informal and our infrastructure plain rudimentary.

The pedestrian bridges are just symptomatic of our inability to convey pedestrians underground for example. Shut down alternate tram, train lines in Newyork, London or Tokyo and their zebra crossings will fail as well.

You were on the right track until you got to the highlighted...
There ARE pedestrian bridges in NYC (my hometown btw), across the UK and Tokyo.

PS: For the record, zebra crossings at traffic lights work perfectly in Lagos!
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aikyg:
How do we tell our politicians that pedestrian bridges are a waste of money. In America, you can drive from one state to another and you'll never meet a single pedestrian bridge. Just put bumps and traffic lights/signs to slow vehicles down at pedestrian crossings.

sophxx:
Yea u right. But we ain't civilize enough down here yet. They drive on red like it's nothing.

MORE AMERICAN PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Stuy_building.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Liberty_St_West_St_td_%282018-12-13%29_01_-_Liberty_Street_Bridge.jpg

https://www.wvxu.org/sites/wvxu/files/styles/x_large/public/201605/music_hall_bridge.jpg
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aikyg:
How do we tell our politicians that pedestrian bridges are a waste of money. In America, you can drive from one state to another and you'll never meet a single pedestrian bridge. Just put bumps and traffic lights/signs to slow vehicles down at pedestrian crossings.

Er...there’s a pedestrian bridge right here on the West Side Highway, right by the World Financial Center in NYC. Furthermore, IIRC, there was one that collapsed along a Florida road last year or 2019, and of course there are many in California.
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The Collapsed Florida Footbridge

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/22/us/22bridge/22bridge-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

Even in small town America (with little traffic), there are pedestrian bridges...

https://dspu7mbc6ymp3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/pedestrian-bridge.jpg
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Bornsinner7:
Wow nice...

I prefer to cross road sharp sharp than to begin climb up that thing

Hopefully, you won’t end up getting to the “other side” sharp-sharp...
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jerrybone:
https://investmentcable.com/npa-controversy-deepens-as-documents-reveal-how-hadiza-bala-usman-flouted-presidential-order/

“Her lover”?

Nigerian brown-envelope “journalists” and their SPONSORED articles...
The Minister has set up a probe panel, even though he’s also the accuser...
But it seems that they are so worried that they cannot await its prepaid report!
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Minjim:
Shebi you people said you crazy.

Some people started a new and more professional way of doing things in the Okada biz but you people mixed them with the rest and threw them all away.

That would have been a better time to make the other players adopt that method by bigger investors coming in and applying the same method.

But you guys are kidding because the services if Okada is still needed that is why people use them. If there is a better alternative, it die a natural death

I agree the government should have accommodated people like Gokada...
They have training for drivers, do background checks, carry insurance and can track rides.

They still should be prohibited from highways and major roads...
But they could continue to serve inner streets and unserved routes.
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eduj:
ban okada ? that might just degrade me he security situation in lagos. Most of okada riders in lagos are abokis and many have no other skill or even understand English.The okada unions are controlled by abokis. unless dem go dash them bus for free

The only “free” bus they’ll see is the one that will ship them home...
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DavSagacity:
I know some guys here in Abeokuta , Ogun state that are welders. But they ride okada .why..? There is no light. Light is epileptic here and they have family to feed. So alot of them have to huzzle with bike till they can buy a generator that can power the welding machine. So it's a combinations of different problems my brother.

So, we’ll send these dudes to Abeokuta....

Btw, interesting that Nigerians will buy a bike and take on a second job to buy a generator...
But will refuse to pay cost-reflective electricity tariffs so that the DISCOs can reinvest in newer facilities.
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