₦airaland Forum

tete7000:
Have you have seen me claimed Jubril rules in place of Buhari? I have always believed that Buhari is alive but in a demented state and no sane people ought to be governed by a man suffering from dementia.

Not you in particular, majority of people here on Nairaland. Make we no lie, we all started believing it small small

tete7000:
He is livelessly alive. Totally not in touch with reality. Someone can be alive and still be dead.

So it's no longer Jubril, this country na cruise

discusant:
Buhari is living behind times in his delusion for Nigeria.

See what @Aminu Sa'ad Beli wrote on his wall. Moving forward I will start promoting peaceful separation for healthy development.
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SEPARATION IS NOT ABOUT WAR, IT HAS PEACEFUL ASPECT.

In 1776, the USA split from the UK
In 1830 Belgium separated from the Netherlands
In 1965, Singapore split off from Malaysia
in 2002, East Timor got split off from Indonesia
In 1921, Ireland split off from the United Kingdom, and (possibly in the future) there will be secession of Scotland.
In 1944, Iceland split from Denmark with remarkable ease.
In 1905 Norway split from Denmark
In 1905, Norway and Sweden also peacefully split ways. One got the car. the other got the kids.

In 1947, the British India Dominion was partitioned into India n Pakistan. In 1971, Bangladesh secceeded from Pakistan.
In 1992-93, the two parts of Czechoslovakia agreed to each go their own way. Thus were born the Czech Republic and Slovakia after what's been named the “Velvet Divorce”., About the same time, another kind of separation occurred, of course, in Yugoslavia. This one led to a bloodshed.

in 1965, Singapore split from Malaysia for a variety of reasons, including religious (Malaysia is majority Muslim, Singapore isn't), ethnic/racial (Singapore has a very large majority Chinese population) and concerns over the Malaysian Bumiputra policy, which was (and is) basically a form of "Affirmative Action" for Muslim Malaysians - who make up the majority population in Peninsular Malaysia.

Ethiopia and Eritrea

Sudan and South Sudan are now separate countries

USSR is now broken down into several countries.

I see separation as an avenue for a healthy competition for development as the case of Singapore and Malaysia, India and Pakistan, Norway/Denmark/Switzerland.

In the case of Nigeria, I am sensing a healthy competitive development among the original component part, the North/West/East each making useful progress while competing with the others.

It is not about war after all there is nothing wrong for one to decide he is no longer comfortable with the union and therefore want to opt out.

LETS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE AND SEPARATE HONORABLY.

This is worth sharing over and over again...

British named them Burma. They rejected it, restructured & renamed themselves Myanmar.

-British named them Upper Volta, but they rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Burkina Faso - Land of Incorruptible People.

-British named them Gold Coast, they rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Ghana.

-British named them Southern Rhodesia. They rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Zimbabwe.

-British named them Northern Rhodesia. They rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Zambia.

-British named them Tanganyika. They rejected it, restructured & renamed themselves Tanzania.

-Germans named them colony of South West Africa. They rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Namibia.

-France named them Dahomey. They rejected it, restructured and renamed themselves Benin.

-Belgium named them Zaire. However, they rejected it, restructured & renamed themselves Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).

-Britain named a bunch of people - Nigeria. They rather kill to preserve it than restructure and give themselves a befitting new name.

"It is only an animal that bears the name that is given to it by his enemy" (Proverb).

SEPARATION IS NOT ABOUT WAR, IT HAS PEACEFUL ASPECT? Yet your examples includes separations brought about by war and periods of physical conflicts. The only true example that you have that mimics that of Nigeria is South Sudan and look at them now, still bloodier than ever. Whether we like it or not, if we must separate it won't come by mere words, risk it all or go home......Till then, all this na childsplay!

WinterMinter:
man this is insane,I don't care about the possible risk,life is all about taking risks.
Risk brings an enthusiastic feeling but paying 28 million dollars for an Eleven minute ride is ridiculous.
Davido no fit enter this one

What's 28 million for people worth billions? When you have that much money, your thinking evolves beyond what common folks can phantom. You start thinking about the stars, existence, supernaturals. You stop reading history and story books and want to see things for yourself. The chance to see space, up close and personal is something 99.9% of the humans will never achieve, this is the type of goals billionaires aim for .

SonofGod231:
Even if they earmarked Billions for Charity.It's ridiculous to blow such an amount of money on a frivolous Joy ride. The poor in 9ja are getting poorer they're there wasting money on nonsense,If I slap that him bowlolo head Ehn wey dey like that bad guy own for Austin Powers

Na him kobalize una make una dey poor? Rich man dey speak poor people dey object, if I tear you slap .

Difrent:
Is Asamu Garba a government official?
Besides if you claim to protect free speech, why censor some and allow others ,the essence of free speech is defeated of you will silence one voice in other to allow another voice . It is wrong , let both of us express ourselves..... hypocrisy is what Jack did

Firstly, he was a presidential aspirant and is often associated with the government in one way or the other, perception is reality as far as the outside world is concerned. Next, you don't know shin shin about freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not freedom against consequences. There are limits to everything in life, you cannot infringe on people's rights, cause them pain or put their existence in danger and call it freedom of speech. Without limits, anyone can go online and start bashing gays, start bashing people based on ethnicity, color and so on.

The more popular you are, the more your words carry weight and the more scrutiny you receive. This is how it works in the real world, this is why popular folks have publicists and speech/content writers. In a world where one wrong sentence can start a war(Israel/Palestine, North and South Korea, Russia/Ukraine, USA/Russia), should national and international figures be allowed to set the world on fire?

Difrent:
Just because the guy expressed himself the way you people don't like , y'all bombarded google play store with bad reviews the way y'all pressed the twitter report button to report buharis tweet and I wonder who is more dictatorial between you people and the apps that fall for your gimmicks and buhari . Social media apps say they protect free speech but clamp down on other people's opinion that do not align with the political views of the owner.....where is the freedom of speech?

I hope you will still be this happy when other nigerians decide to spoil the app of someone you like just because of his views.

As a government official or government, you don't get to give opinions, opinions have consequences, opinions gets people killed. Today it is against Ipobs, tomorrow it could be against Oduduwa group or foreigners, where does the madness stop? A government that is always reactive instead of proactive is doomed to fail.....Political Science 101!

You born two for inside poverty, you come born another and as if 3 is not enough , you decided to make it 4. We just dey blame poverty here but in truth stupidity is to blame. When will women realize they have more to lose by giving birth with no financial planning? See as the man don waka for two years, see as the woman sef thin like broom.

Nigeria jagajaga, there's no solution in sight so help yourself, limit the mouths you feed.....Well I guess that's what she was trying to do but woman, do it before the pikins are born!

chaloner:
At d end u didn't make sense. Cos Nigeria we have today people die daily cos of government negligence

They also die because of their own negligence....Even abroad people die everyday, the only difference is that people are not standing by waiting for the governemnt to improve their lives, they force change through any means necessary. Na one man slap French president, another set of people stormed the U.S Capitol but 9ja we prefer keyboard protest and chest beating. Half of us when we meet these politicians face to face we behave like star struck groupies, anybody here fit slap Buhari?

History555:
Finance minister sacked
Firs sacked
Kemi sacked
Who else remains

Are you saying those people don't deserve to be sacked? Can Buhari-led APC win the presidential election without the SouthWest & Jagaban? Guess who runs the show in the SW? I trust my people, all PDP needs to do is present Jonathan again or someone popular and gbam, APC is finished!

Buhari spoke and everybody automatically calls Tinubu's name, this is what they call swagger. Tinubu is done, Tinubu is finished, Tinubu has been used and dump(Ipobians anthem) but guess what? As we get closer to 2023 both his enemies and allies won't sleep without knowing what the Jagaban wants. Everyone is focusing on Tinubu running for president but are so blind to the numerous ways this baba can show his influence. Without getting any political position, this man has directly or indirectly willed people into power......IGNORE HIM AT YOUR OWN PERIL!

LMAO.....I trust my people, we will quickly accept the faux data without using our brain. Do you know how many cities we have in the world? Over 10,000, without cranking my medula too much, let's delve into Syria, some cities in India, Palestine, Haiti, even without leaving Africa, you would blame yourself for relocating to Nairobi or a city in Mali.

Here's another list by Forbes that will surprise you: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2021/02/24/survey-ranks-the-worlds-best-and-worst-cities-to-live-the-us-did-surprisingly-well/?sh=2fc6d7da3ca8 , knowledge is power my people......Don't let these muthafudgers kill us with depression

Let me use my Drogba voice: IT'S A DISGRACE, A FU*KING DISGRACE!

Abiliboi:
Please where can i learn graphic design / video edition in Lagos? Cheaper center , not bouyant now. Zero 8 zero 3 8 18 61 sixteen. Thanks

Well I'm not in 9ja, your best bet is Youtube, there are lots of materials on Youtube and Google that are free. All it requires is time and data. Once you can master photoshop, you can master anything.

This is why I fear anyone risking his or her life for Nigeria, betrayers everywhere especially when it comes to my people....YORUBA . Make Sunday really think am well before continuing, are these people really worth it? My guy cash out and jaapa, no heroes in zombieland, only bad guys

yommen:
You don't seem to understand what you are in for. Malami runs the courts. You therefore get nothing with Nigerian courts. Furthermore, you think this all about Twitter alone They will run their rules all over your life. They banned crytos already. Little time, they will ban every avenue through which you can express yourself. You'll be put in box with no voice to speak. This is a military era with democratic colouration. You are asleep. It's a pitty a Nigerian is still reasoning this way. Shame!

The honest truth is that there's nothing ECOWAS, UN or ICC can do. The only way to make Buhari listen is by refusing to loan Nigeria any money and raining sanctions on the country including banning government officials from traveling. Buhari has nothing to lose really, he's not up for reelection and the man is content with his cows so the rest na just icing on cake.

Lots of Nigerian youths are too comfortable with mediocrity! Yes the country and the government is no good but are we really that worse than India, Pakistan or Yemen? Yet we see many of the youths in those countries excelling on Fiverr, Upwork and other freelancing sites.

Most youths don't graduate university before 24, most while in the university never bother to learn life skills or side gigs that can bring in income, y'all keep dreaming about graduating and starting an imaginary job earning 200k and above. Nigeria produces over 100,000 graduates a year, the number of available positions paying 100k or more starting salary is less than 20,000, how una wan do am?

The sooner you realize the future is innovation the better! Someone bringing in zero income is a lot worse than someone bringing in 100-300k per month from side gigs alone. BE WISE, there are lots of things you can do as a freelancer and still have time for other things, invest in your damn self and stop worrying about the things you cannot control like the Nigerian economy.

Examples of good skills:

1. Graphic design
2. Search Engine Optimization
3. Youtube Marketing
4. Article/product page writing
5. Social media growth(Follow & unfollow method)

Sometimes it takes a little bit of guts and violence to bring these politicians back to their senses. The masses are not your puppets and everyone has his or her breaking point. I bet if these leaders start chopping slaps left and right it would put the fear of God back in them

People it's just city council.....chill out, we have many Africans on city councils and other city positions throughout the USA, honestly not a big deal, some people don dey fight and curse their tribal mates over nothing, population fo the city is about 210,000 not even up to Ikeja. Good achievement but the next step is for the man to make it to the state level and hopefully continue to rise. This is where he has to make compromises and dine with the devil.....politics sha

Kingcalls:
Nigerians are just too docile...imagine what this evil president is doing to a whole nation that have so many tribes and religion... y should we allow a particular tribe ruin us constantly.. y should we allow them make decisions that only favors them... because his demonic tweet was deleted according to the platforms rule... he decides to throw the country into pains and disaster .... we need to rise and challenge buhari and his goons...we are allowing them take us on a nonstop ride .... if u allow ur partner slap u the first time and u do nothing about it, it will increase to using of belt and punches till ur partner kills u...

Check your own tribe and that of your immediate neighbors, you would find many betrayers there, the difference between the North and the South is simple, no matter how bad the Northern leader is, majority will still vote for him over the Southern candidate. If we wnat to end Northern rulership, the South must unite plain and simple, this delusion of separation will never materialize by dialogue and I believe most of my Southerners are not ready to achieve it with blood.

Mrtaye:
China is a dictatorship and also run a tyranny so they can afford ban Twitter because right from time immemorial they have been oppressing their citizens...so the only time you can compare Nigeria and China is during our era of military rule then that is tenable because of the shared dictatorial and tyrannical tendencies.... but you now comparing China's policies of repression and oppression that is synonymous to communism and military juntas to a democratic set up is baseless

You're still missing the point, go back to the topic and see that the UN charter is the main point here, whenever anything goes wrong in 9ja we are quick to call on international bodies especially the UN but are blind to their hypocrisy. If China is so bad, so undemocratic why are they allowed to be part fo the UN? If not that we Africans are full of shit, why would we let an hypocritical body like the UN criticize or bully us for one thing while embracing China for the same thing?

I dislike Buhari as well, in fact I can't wait for the bloke to leave but that does not mean I have to support toothless bulldogs like the UN who normally shouldn't be able to wash our African feet if we were as progressive and independent as we ought to be.

omohayek:
Freedom of expression doesn't mean you have the right to use any and every private forum you like to voice any opinions you have. What it means is that you have the right to voice your opinions without fear of government censorship or punishment.

When you regurgitate the phrase "freedom of [sic] consequences after expression" to defend the Nigerian government's blatant violation of it's citizens constitutionally guaranteed rights, all you do is reveal yourself to be yet another ignorant worshipper of authoritarianism willing to use phrases he doesn't understand to defend tyrannical, illegal behavior - Buhari is not above the Nigerian constitution (which none of you Buhari apologists ever seem to have even scanned, as shameless as you are in dragging it into the discussion).

The problem with people like you is you sit behind a faceless forum to spew rubbish and expect people to take you seriously. Even the whites who came up with the doctrine of freedom of expression would explain to you this does not shield you from intended and unintended consequences, your opinion could be misconstrued as threats, your opinion could be detrimental and borderline psychotic, if Twitter has the rights to delete tweets or suspend accounts becuase it is inflammatory or unpopular surely you can see the irony in this.

After 9-11 in the USA, not only were people rounded up for what they've written in the past but phone records were pulled, neighbors were talked to all in an attempt to gather who has extremist ties to jihadism or Al-Qeada. Innocents Muslims who had nothing to do with terrorism were interrogated for hours or days under the terrorism act, if your freedom of speech poses a threat to national security/stability better believe they'll come for you.

You can choose to live in your delusions or you can wake up and see things for how they really are, your chest beating/boldness ends with the common people, when you try it with the wrong person or government, your ass will get lit.....It's done in China, it's done in America and 9ja is no exception....

Sometimes I wonder do these people even read the Constitution, freedom of expression is a human right but freedom of consequences after expression is not. If we all had freedom of expression, Nairaland won't be banning people, Twitter wouldn't suspend profiles and I could walk butt naked in the middle of Atlanta shouting thug life .

Mrtaye:
You're mixing it up China is not a democratic country,it's a communist country

It has no bearing on the issue at hand. As long as you're a member of the UN you're expected to follow its rules and declarations. It's the same for OPEC, African Union and many others. You can't have one set of rules for Africans and another set of rules for super powers.

shegzhkn:
China is a friggin superpower it unnecessary spelling out that for you oloko D.

She is economically advanced and also a millitary power and infact china is also one of the reasons that keeps policy makers in the US awake in the dead of the night

Comparing china with one charity case in sub-sahara africa is absurd.

So you sef agree that UN is hypocritical, it's like the way the law treats the elites compared to the regular folks in this country, all na cruise.

Acidosis:
Countries choose what to ratify and what to ignore. Nigeria is a member of the UN, yet child marriage is still a norm here. In fact, 26 states have failed to ratify the laws against child marriage. Anybody can join the UN.

So why then do people feel the UN can actually tell Nigeria what to do when it comes to social media or human rights? See our people always quick to cry to UN as if they have any real powers.

Eriokanmi:
Which constitution...? the one i hold a copy or another one? Pull out the Buhari's copy of the tweet from the archive and analyse it yourself. Buhari messed up big time. Nobody is in support of crime. I abhor it too. I escaped the ESN attack in Imo, same day Gulak was murdered. I boarded a port harcourt-bound flight from Lagos 2 days earlier, to return via owerri. Owerri was like a ghost town. The twit was ill-timed and genocidal in nature. I expected buhari to have apologized instead and mentioned clearly that he was referring to IPOB and ESN or arsonists... and not the South East in the period they were mourning their family and loved ones lost in the war. As a Yorubaman, my only uncle from the maternal side lost his life in that civil war. My mum and her siblings had to trick my grandma until her death by contributing money and giving it to her that her son said he should give her...though she suspected he had been killed in the war. I wonder what could be more traumatizing than that. He was one of the recruits on short military training to fight in the civil war.

Buhari is known for making unguarded, inflamatory comments. I thought old age would have washed such a habit off his mind.

Read up Section 217 part 2 (c), the right to defend the country against insurrection is non negotiable, it's not even a discussion worth arguing. The part that I agree with you is that Buhari's statement was ill timed, unguarded and inflammatory.

Acidosis:
Does UN security council looks like a human rights board to you?

Please read up the list of countries that have ratified the UN human rights declaration.

All members of the UN are expected to abide by its rules whether it is human rights or security, the fact that China gets away with social media blockade and the UN does nothing is a confirmation of the hypocrisy that exists in this world.

henryobinna:
the fire you support with air will one day consume you.

Please stop asking me silly questions. Imagine.

Sure after it has consumed your entire family....Animal!

Acidosis:
Use your head. Anybody can log into your account with your password and email. Adeboye has many children abroad. He's got PAs everywhere who could easily login from anywhere on earth.

Not everyone is shortsighted like Buhari. The world has gone too far for anyone to imagine regulating the cyber space.

Malami must be stupid to think he can arrest anyone. Shebi na who dem catch tweeting dem go arrest. I will post whatever I want on twitter. Come for me and I will give you proofs that my cousin in Germany posted on my behalf.

Shebi you people think the Internet is like the cow that you push around expressways and farmlands?

You don't know what's going on, all these people quoting the UN are just silly. You can't regulate cyberspace? I laugh in swahili, look at China. Not only are they part of the UN but they are also part of its security council.....lol

Buktu:
But ipob didn't pose a threat before buhari started killing them. Fulani herdsmen have been killing people across the country but FG is giving them greenlight to kill more people and still protect them with soldiers and police in case there is a reprisal attack. So what is your point Abegi

My argument is not about what is right or wrong, my point is that FG has the right to defend itself and the country against insurrectionists as stated by the constitution, Twitter is not going to change this.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, the new generation is built differently. Maybe its the prenatal vitamins, maybe it's the chemicals in foods nowadays or the air but taking your own life is now seen as a sport and a justifiable solution.