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Ugosample:
Obama tried his best

His best? No bro, he was a sellout just like Trump, just like Bush, just like 99% of the politicians.

Beautyaddy:
Racism in America has always been there. It was just done more in a convert way unlike now that it's being done overtly.

The only reason Obama became president was not because racism was less but because of the senseless Iraq war that the Bush family and his vice lied to the Americans to agree with which as a result caused the country to go into serious recession and very high unemployment.

Obama lost both the House and Senate after two year of his presidency...go figure why that was.

Under Obama, police killed more black people than under Trump so far. Under Obama, the ghetto still remained the ghetto. Treyvon Martin was killed and all we got was a speech. Obama's hometown Chicago is still drug and gang infested. My point is simple, if a black president could not help blacks in America, are we really surprised that a white president is also nonchalant? I've told so many people, as soon as Trump is no longer president and we have Democrats in control, the media and the fear mongers would forget about racism and pretend everything is heavenly once again......It's called mental slavery....lol

Emilokoiyawon:
So according to you 2016 is still not Obama's year - this is what you call crazy? Guy for your mind 168 000 is bigger than 179 000? You can't even comprehend simple numbers, let alone know how to interpret stats.Your skull is packed full with sawdust. Please stop telling people you are a Nigerian. Nigerians in America are known for their intelligence. Please claim Togo or Sowetho. You are a big embarrassment.

LMAO.....You bloody pauper, I feel sorry for you. Intelligent people argue based on facts yet Rwanda and other countries such as Denmark and even the U.K defeats your point. I can see you no longer have facts to support your argument hence we've reached the point of name calling and jest. Okay joker, have fun

NOHOLDSBAR:
Based on your line of thinking and youthful diatribe, I'm sure it's safe to assume that you are still in your 20's or late 30's. You have not seen much of life in terms of race relations hence your limited ability to decipher hidden and subtle signs of racism.
This is a guy who actually ended up contesting for the Presidency simply because he found it hard to accept that a black man was the President. This is a man who questioned the birth place of the first black President of America, this is a man who's sole purpose of living is to eradicate all things that portrays 44th in good light. Son , you are a kid. I'm in Nigeria and it bed time. You will learn as you grow older, just hope it will not be too late.

If you think someone in the 30s, still knows little about life then you know NOTHING! Your grievances is not against Trump but in America in general. If you think race relations was better under Bush or Obama then you're smoking some heavy stuff. Trump will say anything to get the win, he would claim to be a pastor if it would get him the votes of the evangelicals. He would claim to be a Muslim if Islam was the primary religion in America. He is a an entertainer and that is exactly why he won, a man that donated heavily to Democrats including Obama's first election, yet he can't stand black people? Do your research grandpa, I'm not here to convince you to like Trump but stop pretending as if he's the reason America is racist!

Emilokoiyawon:
Go and sleep. You are embarrassing yourself.

Lol....Empty barrel.

Emilokoiyawon:
Why are you so slow? 2016 is not Trump's first year. 2016 was Obama's last year. You are slow.Trump did not assume office until 2017. You are very slow. Again, under Obama the number of Africans/Nigerians entering America increased EVERY single year. Meanwhile, under your boy Trump, the same number has decreased for the first time in a decade. Go and learn to think. You are not bright. Obviously, when Nigeria sent you, we did not send our best!

Okay let me indulge your craze...lol.

2017: 168,980 Still way more than Obama. Read man, read! Your point is mute, If Trump was targetting Nigerians or Africans in general, shouldn't the numbers decrease to Obama era figures? I mean 150k is way more than 60, 80 or 90k.

To further disprove your ignorance, is Rwanda not part of Africa?

2017: 2,338
2018: 3,339

Surely Rwanda is also occupied by blacks . Guy go sleep!

NOHOLDSBAR:
Kid, a closet racist is someone who has been a racist all along but has just been outed now like Trump. Better remove the wool on your eyes. Trump was not loved by Hollywood, he tried to be part of Hoollywood, he tried to be of the NFL and was shut down. Son' get a book and read up and American race history before showing your ignorance in public. I don't need CNN or Fox to know a racist when I see one.Your actions and thoughts will give you away. I don't have time nor do I feel like lecturing you on the so many moves that TRAMP has made that outed himself a clear racist. Open your brain and let fresh air in. Just a quick lesson for you son - Go and read about the Central park Jogger rape case, also read up on how Trump discriminated on Housing rental in NY. Just 2 old case will open your eyes. You sound as ignorant as fvck.

Can you see why your ramblings are laughable? If Trump is racist then Hilary and 90% of all politicians and large business owners in the U.S are also racists!

I already explained how the fair housing act of 1968 was not fully enforced until the 1980s and for the rape case, 70& of all Americans taught they were guilty. Only thing Trump is guilty of is being fooled by the media and always looking for a big profit! Let me get this straight, Trump is racist but someone that calls black men 'SUPER PREDATORS' and was a huge factor enacting laws that profiled them and locked them up is not? Like I said, typical black man, playing victim instead of removing the wool from your eyes.

Emilokoiyawon:
When your boy Trump said 40,000 Nigerians will not "...go back to their huts" after seeing the US, he was not talking about criminals. He was talking about Nigerian Immigrants. If you do not know, Immigrants have a right to petition the US government for permanent residency and citizenship.

Guy leave this issue. You no sabi. You are too slow.

Stop being ignorant, if you come on a tourist or student visa you are not an immigrant, you are non immigrant!

Immigrants are those with greencards, they are permanent residents hence they live and work in the U.S. You think Trump is actively pursuing those with greencards? Don't be silly!

Emilokoiyawon:
I knew it! You see why I say you are not very smart? I was right to dare you. Look at the numbers in the Report you posted. Under Obama the number of Nigerians and Africans increased every single year and under your boy Trump so far the number has decreased for the first time in a decade. The numbers you posted support my claim that Trump sentiments against blacks/Africans will be reflected in the number of black/Africans that are allowed to enter the US. Who is laughing now?

2009 under Obama First full year: 55,581
2015 Last year of Obama Nigeria: 156,147
2016 First year of Trump Nigeria: 179,145 (SHOCKER: MORE THAN OBAMA)
2018: 143,783

2016 First year of Trump for Denmark: 10,609
2018: 9,559

I guess Trump really hates Danish people too......Guy go sleep!

Emilokoiyawon:
All of "...a sudden...?" Again you are very far from informed. People know about Trump's racism and white supremacy since the 1970s:

1. Trump's racist rent scheme: https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case
As early as the late 70s Trump and his father hatched a scheme to prevent black people from renting apartments in their buildings. The case was later sent to the courts and Trump and his father were fined for targeting black people with rent discrimination.

2. Central Park 5: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/why-trump-doubled-down-on-the-central-park-five.html
When 5 black teenagers were arrested for the rape/murder of a jogger in central park, Trump called for their execution even after DNA proved that those boys were innocent.

Dude, I have receipts on your boy Trump. We can do this all day. You are defending that which cannot be defended. Stop owning yourself bro.

That is what you call racism? Pathetic! Then Hilary Clinton and 90% of politicians/business owners and celebrities in the U.S arre racist. In the 1970s hotel and real estate businesses in New York catered mostly to elites and unfortunately most elites back then were white. The fear hosuing act of 1968 was just passed and was not fully enforced, it was not until 1988 that it was amended and fully enforced.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/renters-rights-book/chapter5-2.html

The central Park 5 is no more racist than the case of OJ Simpson or Treyvor Martin. 70% of America thought they were guilty until all the facts came out and even then some people still felt they were guilty. Abeg your bastardization of the word 'RACIST' is hilarious!

NOHOLDSBAR:
Obviously you be newbie to the American society. Have you ever heard of "closet Racist"? Obviously, Trump is a closet racist. I'm talking from 32 years of life in the US. Your white boss could be a racist and he will laugh and even invite you to dinner while trying to find a way to get you fired. And I have met people whom I thought were racist who turned out to be the nicest people. I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to race relations. As of this minute the vast majority of African Americans, Latinos and even some white will tell you that Trump is a RACIST. End of story. You will come to change your views as time goes on. Just wait.

Your 32 years in the U.S obviously taught you nothing! A closet racist is one who is afraid of people finding out he or she is racist. Based on things we've been hearing on CNN and from the Democrats Trump does not qualify. So which one is he, a closet racist or a full grown racist? .

As of this moment anyone can call anyone a racist! Obama was called a racist, anti-christ by right wingers for years, Trump was praised as a true entertainer and lover of liberal policies yet here we are today. Your fear mongering would nly work if Trump was president for life, since we all know this can't happen, it is safe to say your fear tactics are toothless!

Emilokoiyawon:
Wait. Rambling? I am providing evidence that the guy who determines how many people enters America does not like Nigerians. So, why would you assume that his policies does not reflect this sentiment? I dare you to place the number of Nigerian Immigrants granted visas each year under Obama vs. those under Trump; and lets see if we do not see a very clear correlation between Trumps rhetorics against Nigerians/Africans and these number. Go ahead. Post these numbers. I dare you.

Lol....Do you realize there's a difference not liking criminals who are Nigerians and not liking Nigerians in general? If you enter the U.S with a tourist visa and overstay your visa, you've broken the law! If you enter using a student visa and failed to attend classes and refuse to return to your country, you've broken the law!

In terms of statistics, I'll do you a favor so you won't have any doubt, see the link below directly from the State dept:

[url]https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport%20-%20TableXVIII.pdf[/url]

Hope you can stop your conspiracy theories now

Emilokoiyawon:
Here are excerpts of reporting WHEN Trump was complaining that there are too many Nigerians in America:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-said-haitians-have-aids-nigerians-live-in-huts-in-immigration-outburst-2017-12

President Donald Trump reportedly said 15,000 Haitians who received US visas "all have AIDS" and 40,000 Nigerians would never "go back to their huts" after seeing the US.

Trump made the reported comments during a June meeting, after growing frustrated at the amount of foreigners allotted visas to the US.


Trump made this statement, during a discussion of Immigration policy aka how to determine who/who gets to come into America.
You are not very bright. If you were, you will know what is going on in America at the moment.

Guy stop rambling. Trump can say anything he wants(Grab em by the pussy, walk on the streets and shoot someone and they'll still vote for me....etc), the policies and statistics does not reflect it. Show me statistics from the U.S consulates which shows number of Nigerians granted visas under Trump are significantly lower than under Obama. If you cannot provide this, then keep shut!

EbolaParasite:
Patapata you go be U.S army pesin. Se with your security clearance you fit get uninterrupted network service from MTN? if not abeg throwe the clearance!! Just kidding ooo.

Lol....the security clearance is needed because my company audited government entities, join army ke?

NOHOLDSBAR:
Obviously you are missing his point. Those in the Southern border and those of you that are not white are in the same category. Trump's agenda is to make sure that the rate of population growth for non white is reduced by any means necessary. Those coming from Nigeria are very small when compared to those coming from Mexicans and other Latin American countries. The main point he was making is that Tump is against you unless you are WHITE. And on that, he's 1000 percent right. Stop living in fools paradise, after the Mexicans, you will be next.

Oga leave story, tell that to the uneducated goats who believe a man that was loved by both Democrats and Hollywood in the 90s and early 200s all of a sudden is a racist, conservative white supremacist hell bent on removing color from America. If you understood how the U.S is structured Constitutionally, you would realize Trump's legacies can be easily wiped out by the next president, either 2020 or 2024. The fear mongering is exactly why we have blacks and latinos being used as race puppets in America.

Emilokoiyawon:
Keep fooling yourself. I live in America. I know what is going on. I know people that work behind the scenes. Things you will never read in the media. Trump is exploring all manner of ways to limit the number of non-white foreigners entering America (either on a visiting visa or immigration visa). Even many African migrants instinctively know this. Why do you think many of them are now using America as a passage way to Canada? Like I said, u na neva c anything. I pray Trump is re-elected so that he can fully/publicly fledge out his plans knowing fully well that he does not have to face voters ever again.

Lol.....Not only do I live in America but I'm a U.S citizen with certain security clearance. Trump cares less about Africans and his focus is more on the Southern border and refugees from central and South America. You know just becuse you don't like someone does not mean you can make up ridiculous theories! Can you show me statistics that proves less Nigerians are being granted visas than under Obama? Can you show me statistics that proves more Nigerians are being refused at the port of entry than under Obama? Perhaps you prefer to get your statistics from CNN

Emilokoiyawon:
All of you that were supporting Trump (because u na dey vex say Obama/Clinton protected gay people across the world) shey u na see u na life. You supported the most racist/bigoted human being to ever occupy the American presidency and now you are shocked that people like you are been treated unfairly by American Immigration system. U na neva see anything. Those of us wey done collect our American Green card since just dey look u na dey laugh. Next time when you support a racist because he hates homos, just know dat the racist probably hates black people as much as he hates homos. As for me, my American citizen is loading...and will be loaded within a year. The rest of una enjoy Donald Trump wella... una neva c anything.

If you like call me gay na una sabi...the number of women (of all colors, races and ethnicity) wey I done gbensh for this life is a testament of my sexuality.

This has nothing to do with Trump and the sooner you realize it, the better! Thousands of Nigerians enter the U.S successfully each month and we don't hear a peep.

I can tell you people categorically that this had nothing to do with the U.S consulate. It is not the embassy's job to prevent people from boarding a plane or departing Nigeria once they have a valid visa. It is the agents at the port of entry that would make such a decision. The only way something like this could happen is if it is a fake visa, such cases would warrant a call or online lookup of the visa number by the airline or immigration to determine authenticity. Telling lies at interview or telling people you ain't coming back will still not warrant being pulled out of the plane. OP do your research properly!

Can we all see why it can never be better for Nigeria, especially Nigerians on Nairaland? All they read was the headline and couldn't even bother to read the details. Wasted generation

masseratti:
average well to do like you and you are not concerned with activities of public bus drivers? If God has blessed you to the extent of owning a brand new cars you will no that the no 1 cause of accidents in Lagos is Danfo drivers #facts, Lagos Island is not London... But if you know London very well you will know that some boroughs do have pot holes,cracks on the road, how many vehicles moves at a speed of more than 40km/h that a pot hole will be a cause of accidents on the road on Lagos Island, reckless driving of the NURTW is legendary. SARS in Ibadan killing people in the last 6 month and you mean the people of Ibadan are so timid and not enlightened they allowed that to happen without crying out loud, Oga you win... If they shout and whine on internet since you don't believe in their methods, hold your peace is you can't encourage them, please don't discourage the OP if you are OK with the menace NURTW is constituting in the Public... Go to sane clime and see how unionists operates, common Ghana is there, they collect money on the road too but with decorum, why must we be different? These things started Infront of us and it can end with a good leader, just like Tinubu cleared Apongbon, Fashola cleared Oshodi, if we shout enough, One leader one day will clear, regulate the activities of NURTW, like I said, I can see you are good with twist and turns, you win oooo you win happy now, when next you see a thread like this if you can't appreciate them, just let them be, this is their own way of shaping public issues, thank You.

This is where you are wrong, on a public forum, all opinions are fair game. Just because you disagree with mine does not negate my opinion nor does it make yours anymore relevant. We've aleady established that you know nothing about the plight of Ibadan people so let's just leave that, we've also established that you are not able to supply statistics showing number one cause of accidents is danfo drivers hence your argument is just an opinion, just like mine. Let's just agree to disagree, no need of epistles...okay!

masseratti:
please show me how many yahoo boys Sars operatives have killed in Ibadan for the last 6 months, I don't know where plenty of bad roads are on Lagos Island in comparative with other areas, most roads on the island are good, stats to show you no 1 cause of a road accident, FRSC can help you with that or LASTMA, not me, of what good will that do me to go and dig up statistics for you? Pay my bills?

Comprehension and understanding matters not winning arguments, you said they should go to court, and I point it out to you that even going to court, is a part of it but not the ultimate, what op has done which you are condemning because you know it all and you are the defender of NURTW is part of collective ways reforms can be brought into the activities of road transporters, èsp NURTW by the governments, social media, court, bills at the state or National assembly, condemning any method is totally unacceptable.

You're still speaking jargon! You said and I quote "Go to Lagos Island and show me how many bad roads are there", my friend there are plenty of bad roads there, come to Idumota, come to Obalende and even parts of Ikoyi, it might not be as much as Mushin or Ojota but it's not London. The number one cause of accidents remains bad roads and poor driving(speeding), not only do I have family and friends working in LATSMA and other Lagos agencies, simple logic tells you that if the road is poor, the chances of accidents increase, so I don't know what you are arguing here. If you have facts that prove otherwise, give me the link or keep quiet, you can't just make a bold assertion and expect people to drink up your zobo. The SARS issue, there is no need to argue with you, do you live in Ibadan? Because I have friends and family there also and SARS is still very active in arresting and torturing boys, in 2018 I spent almost 5 months there, come see horror stories. People are being detained , some are killed and covered up that hey tried to escape but until it happens to your family member or friends, you won't really see it. Just like the NURTW issues, for the average well to do person like me, I'm not concerned, the people that should be concerned are the transport workers and the daily commuters relying on public transport. Which brings us full circle back to my initial point, banging drums and writing epistle on Nairaland is all good and fun but if you want real reform, the members must demand it. They could strike, they could leave the union, they could elect new excos and so on. If you are waiting for government to interfere through social media post, my friend you go wait tire o!

masseratti:
Nigerian is not the only country with bad roads, go to Lagos Island, tell me how many roads there are bad, the no 1 cause of accidents on most Lagos cars is NURTW members reckless driving, it's a site we see everyday, I can't count the number of times those guys have bashed my cars, my relatives cars, friends cars, how does a bad road dent your car? Or cause scratches on your cars? If you ve had suck experience please let me know, Sars yes it cab get better but to a large degree their assault on individuals has reduced, except you are not in Nigeria and never had an experience with them before, there are many ways of putting pressure on government to take actions, not only suing the union, what happened when you go to court and you win your case, government refuse to enforce the judgment, order or ruling?is not this same government that is selective in what they want to obey or not? How can their members revolt when means of communication in their union is by force and intimidation, no freedom of expression, or you will play ignorant that you are not aware of that? They fight, kill themselves to get to different positions, on the cost of foods, no where did i say they solely responsible, but they take the lion share in that matter, they increase the cost of transporting foodstuffs anyhow, collect unnecessary levies from market women, for what exactly? To who is the money going to?

My friend can you show me credible satistics showing the number one cause of accidents on Lagos roads is wreckless driving by NURTW members? When you say Lagos Island please be specific, there are plenty of bad roads on Lagos Island, plenty of horrible traffic due to bad and congested roads. SARS is still very much active, come to Ibadan and see how they kill without remorse especially yahoo boys. Furthermore you just acknowledge that going to court or using the government is in effective, what then is your argument? I've said that only a true revolt from its members can effect the change you seek and you still argue? Na wa o!

masseratti:
just wait there and be in the analog age, the internet is a great way to create an awareness on an issue, saying NURTW members don't have an issue with the status quo is as good as saying North Koreans are happy they don't have the freedom to leave their country or express themselves without fear, a case study of how social media can change things is Sars issues, it started online, government responded, just few weeks ago sapele girl issue trend online, now Delta state government responded, her school is being renovated as at now, that's the power of awareness, what op did is to bring a matter on the social media instead of you to lend a support for whatever reason you were against it right from your 1st post, if you think that you are aloof and you have a car their activities does not affect you, that's a big lie, they slow you down on the road, causing traffic due to the money they want to collect on the road, they are the no 1 cause of dents, crash and accidents on Lagos road, and you said they don't affect you, they are the main reason you buy foodstuffs at 100 naira last month and it's 120 this month, and you said it does not affect you, while your income stay static, theirs goes up geometrically most times without any reasonable reasons, they have to be regulated, if not telecoms operators can wake up any day and tell you 1 mins is now 1 thousand naira,and there is nothing you will do about it because they now have a union of telecom providers.

Are we just pulling statistics out of our butts now? Number one cause of dents, crash and accidents on Lagos roads remains bad roads and reckless driving, stop fabricating data! Sars issue, what came of it? Do we still have SARS or not? You are still missing the point, absence of suing them to court or government getting more involved, there is no btter remedy than for the members of NURTW to revolt and command change. You are banking on government to respond to your online campaign and I admire your optimism, unfortunately I have no such hope in the government. Furthermore, I fail to see how NURTW menace is solely reponsible for rising cost of food items? What role does importation play? What roles do traffic and bad roads play? What about a free market economy, where traders are allowed to set their own prices? Look at the banking sector and housing sector? Is NURTW responsible for the rising cost there too?

queiii:
you're one funny little man, but I'm not surprised-- muslims are so desperate. you desperados are known to always search the internet for Christian bias sites and blogs that somewhat stupidly defends your religion whilst bashing Christianity. very funny.
Christians and atheists on the other end tell you how they see it. we don't need blogs to tell us how islam isn't peaceful... we know. we don't need blogs to remind us of 911, your islamic states agenda, and every suicide bombing recorded. no.


You may not know that there were more than one crusades. The second crusade was started to curb the growth of Islam. The roman catholics at that time had probably seen the future of peaceful islam.
Funny how to decide to cling on events that happened eons ago when primitivity was the order of the day. Islamic states today-- this modern era-- are still trying to force stupid laws on people, committing genocides, rejecting western education. lmao


it might also interest you to know that most groups mentioned on that blog were put in place to counter islamic states attacks. The ugandan one for example-- see them as our JTF-- they are in place to repel your barbaric religion's agenda.

that dude above mentioned various islamic groups and you tagged a blog with few insane "white Christians" in its mentions. I on the other hand, can mention more than a hundred muslim terrorists and more than 9 Islamic sects.


you're really pathetic, muhammed boi

Another ignorant post! Second crusade was to curb Islamic threats but somehow you left out first crusade and the remaining 6 crusades? What was the point of the crusades, people fighting for land, using religion to spread terror. You justify the groups on that list by saying they are defending themselves against Islamic extremists but failed to acknowledge most of the people they killed were Christians like themselves. This is what happens when you don't read or you read and can't comprehend. Little man? I'm 6ft 2inches, 240 lbs and probably old enough to teach you a few things about life. The fact that I was able to show extremists exist on the Christian side defeats the argument made by "the dude above", if the hundred Muslim terrorists means Islam is not peaceful surely you can agree that the Christian terrorists also means Christianity is not peaceful, otherwise you are hypocritic. Growing up with an Islamic dad and a Christian mom, I know fully well how pure both religion can be, I also am well aware how poverty, ethnicity and other dangerous elements can corrupt humans interpretation of both religion, otherwise how do you explain ISIS killing their fellow Muslims? I bet you didn't know that dummy!

masseratti:
what the OP did today is a step of many to come, he created awareness, not too long ago you were implying that their actions is nobody's business, all I did was to point it out to you that it's actually the Public business what they do, if you took your time to read well, the OP called on the new governments in various states to look into their activities, yes there are other much more effective ways, but what op did should not be condemned, better late than never, who knows a legislator might see this at state of federal level and sponsor a bill, heck if I have money for lawyers fees I will get the best SANs and sue them for public good, it can be done.

You people overhype yourselves! Nairaland is not the proper medium to create your so called awareness, to think otherwise is to stay delusional. The dilemma you have is that majority of NURTW members don't see a problem with their union, majority of those who are financially average or above couldn't care less about NURTW issues, so that leaves those who rant online and those too poor to sue the government for ineptness. Do you now see that you're fighting a lost cause? Like I said before, think am well!

queiii:
dude, there's nothing in that garbage link that I don't already know. I wonder why the KKK, and west boro aren't trying to invade countries to shove sharia laws down their throats.

KKK had it's moments, they've been defeated for the last 3 decades but still operate within the U.S., the Islamic extremist will have their downfall also and be relegated to certain territories. True Muslims don't need to force religion down anyone's throat, in fact it is considered a sin. The link exposes the various Christian terrorist groups still present, it debunks your theory that terrorism is limited to one religion. If you check your history group, you would know spreading of religion by force originated with the Roman Catholic church but then again people who blabber on the internet aren't very sharp to begin it.....lol.

masseratti:
i don't need to open the constitution for you for you to know the laws they violate, 1st the union is not chattered that means anyone carrying out similar business to what they are doing is free to join or not, 2ndly they constitute public nuisance which is same as disturbing the peace, a common terminology by our able police when they are rounding up protesters, they levy taxes on non members, which is against the law.e.g.market women.
I don't care what the statues of NURTW is, but when the action of a group of people affects me, affects the public, the public has all the voice to call on the government to regulate their activities or else all other unions and associations will operate any how they like, we are not in banana Republic.

Then call on the government to regulate them, don't whine on the internet wasting kinetic energy. We all agree the governement has been inept since 1960, yet you believe the government will actually reform NURTW? Laughable! The NURTW is backed by the trade union act of 2005, they are a legal entity. If they are making life hard for you and you can prove that what they are doing is illegal, sue them! It is far more plausible for the members to riot and command change than for you to continue using precious MB for a lost cause, think am well!

My container...........Faints!

VolvoS60:
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You avoided addressing even one of the points I raised and instead chose to focus on inanities. Until you are able to refute anything I have said then consider this exchange closed. Do have a good day, sir.

Why would I refute anything when you are not a member? If you have solid grievances against the union, sue them....SIMPLE! Don't bother me wih your emotional imbalance!

masseratti:
if a union violate the law and the tenets of a land its the duty of the government to regulate them, what op has raised concerned us all, there is freedom of association, no union should stop anyone trying to be a transporter if he or she does not join their association, but this people do, not only that they collect dues from petty traders too, they are not unions but menace to the society.

Open up the Nigerian Constitution and show me a law they violated. In addition, show me the case against them in the court of law. This is very simple, almost every sector in Nigeria participates in one union or the other, the rules for each union are agreed to by its members. An outsider has no voice in its matters, just like the military, when one of it's officers errs, they face a tribunal or military court. NURTW is legally eigstered in Nigeria, they pay taxes just like most entities, your emotional disdain for them does not make them illegitimate....okay!

VolvoS60:
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Typical.

This is what people do when they have no argument. They turn tail and flee, claiming they don't have time for analysis.

I shouldn't be surprised that my posts are gibberish to you. What did I expect?

Like I said, there is no need to argue when we will just keep going around in circles hence I offered what sensible people call a stalemate. The people affected by this are NURTW members, they alone can solve their situation for better or worse. Why do you delight in unnecessary confrontations? Chillax

VolvoS60:
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I would suggest you keep quiet and do a little reading yourself, sir - you clearly do not understand what the word 'tout' means. But let's ask another question - why would a union that has "some of the best lawyers and accountants" and whose "leadership and upper chambers compiles of well educated men and women" show 'touts' as their face (your words, not mine)? To what end?




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I do not even know where to begin untying your first sentence up there. Anyone reading it would think the NURTW actually serves the interests of those it claims to represent instead of the abomination it is in reality. What protections and rights does the union offer and is there a provision for opting out of these so called protections and rights? Is membership of the union voluntary or compulsory? I will attach a link to a thread on this NL with details of the insanity of transport unions in Nigeria - the very transport unions you are celebrating.

And what is it with this comparison of crime rates now versus the 90s? What does that even mean? Kindly cease and desist with these subtle and not so subtle threats of a spike in violent crime if your beloved union is brought to heel. If it will be brought under control, it will be brought under control. And the heavens will not fall.

You keep typing gibberish hence I'm not going to waste my time analyzing your epistle. This is simple, NURTW membership is not for everyone, if majority of the members disagree with its operations, they should revolt and disband the union....Simple! An outsider like you has no say in its constitution hence your ramblings on Nairaland is just that.....RAMBLING!