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KlinBoy:
November last year, I got a alert on my phone that my account has been credited with 12,750,000. I was surprised cause its an account I have not used for over 9 months with less than 1k in it. about 17mins later, the money was debited from the account. I know it was used for fraud by the account officer.

And did you take time to figure out what happened at the bank? You could get into trouble by keeping quiet as your account could be used to settle a fraudulent or terrorism related transaction and trust me you would be liable.

Do your best to clarify or report abnormal transactions, it is in your own best interest.

jas_o:
Guys,
the most funniest thing is that this guy requested for the statement of account so as to know when this attrocity was commited to my supprised the bank said it has no tracking sytem for weekend transaction with ATM. with this one can smell a rat.
i will update you on situation of things.

Tracking system? I thought a software is supposed to log every single activity that takes place on the ATM. Abi dem hire people wey dey track the thing?

Sometimes, the type of nonsense you get to hear from people who jump into and use technologies they don't understand is mind boggling?

702:
The new magnetic stripe card is better of and more flexible than the normal 1. Enhanced security features, and maybe extra limits for wivdrwals

Same difference as regards the new cards. The operators simply do not understand the underlying technology, they simply pay for whatever is touted as the latest technology while believing all the marketing gimmicks without the slightest clue about tweaking or protecting data. It is a real shame.

I have had to deal with both banks and card processors that cannot implement anything that is even slightly different from the original card solution which means they don't have competent programmers to program these cards to implement extra security related tasks to safeguard customers information.

Personally, I withdraw any money that is paid into the only account that has an ATM card attached to it.

Send a detailed letter/piece to all the media houses if they cannot refund the money as long as your friend did not contribute to the problem by compromising his PIN.

The development is indeed very sad.

Unfortunately, most of the these banks don't understand technology, they just buy into anything that seems to be used by any bank in any part of the world without understanding the technology.

You may as well state the minimum offer for such dynamic/database driven websites or a range so that developers would decide whether to get in touch or not.

After all you may see N250,000.00 as very low price, who knows?

I think any tool that enables anyone to accomplish tasks is ok.

It is not about the tool, it is about the usefulness of the tool in solving the problem at hand.

As they say, a basketball in Michael Jordan's hands is not the same as a basketball in Dual Core's hands.

If hand coding will enable me replicate yahoo fine.

If dreamweaver will help me do the same in less time I will use it.

Had discussions with 2 clients about custom SMS projects (GSM to Web & WEB to GSM) last week and I felt these could be done.

Played around with the concept and currently testing one at http://justalternativepower.com/smsnews.php

Mind you with this solution I am using my regular GSM line without any short code or 60/40% profit sharing whatsoever. Just making use of technology to solve problems.

Lesson learned

Feel free to re-invent the wheel. The phrase "There is no point re-inventing the wheel" simply don't encourage learning and innovation.

yawa-ti-de:
In other words, there is[b] global consistency[/b], with respect to layout.

Global inconsistency you mean?

luvinhubby:
Please i need info on how to design and host a business union website where dealers and their contacts can be obtained by clicking on specific item or items. E.g. Honda car parts dealers union is the site, one clicks on Driving shaft or shock absorbers etc., and names and contact of companies dealing on that appears. Pls assist

You need a directory script to do that (cheap or free updates anyway). Search for directory scripts online or ask a programmer to develop one for you based on your exact needs.

If the price is right I can develop one for you based on whatever requirement you want in a matter of days.

petres_007:
Hello,

Are you a web developer? Would you like to work with a small lagos-based web design outfit on a per-project basis?

We need someone who can easily & quickly develop functional and decent-looking dynamic/database-drvien websites at very low costs per project.

If you answered yes to these questions, please contact me via email ASAP with samples of your past work.

The email address is: mgrl7@yahoo.com

Content in bold refers, someone that can easily and quickly do what you put down above would most likely have very good experience and skill set about developing dynamic/database driven websites so the part where you stated very low cost may be your undoing.

Just like you cannot buy a hummer jeep with the amount good enough for a volkswagen beetle you cannot get fully functional database driven websites at very low prices especially when you are not talking about a single solution that would be sold to millions of people.

I needed to clarify this because chances are you would come back here in future to complain about the quality of work by Nigerian developers if they agree to work at very low costs and are unable to deliver on what you want.

There is what is called appropriate pricing, understand it and stick to it and you will hardly run into problems with people or projects.

Many thanks for your time and feel free to discard the above if need be.

nhoj:
I am glad that discussion is seriously going on concerning this topic but my challenge now is that just as he fails to pick up my calls he is also not responding now.
My clients are not pleased with me.
What is the way forward?

Look for reliable web developers simple. Unfortunately, a lot of people make mistakes before getting things right but it is very possible for you to do things right the first time and all the time.

rojad:
Hello Afam

The N1000 does ot cover the amount for domainand hosting. However we will design for the first 100 people that registers and paid for domain and hosting.

The N1000 is for does that want to host in another server. (NOT with us)

As long as it makes economic sense to you and your clients are ok trust me you will not be doing anything wrong.

When it comes to money, cheap is always higher than free so anyone that can depend on free services cannot logically be insulting a cheap service in my opinion.

Good luck, remember to be deaf to comments if need be. All the best.

I think the bulk of the responses on this thread is unfair to the poster.

I have defended (and will continue to) low cost of solutions as long as the solutions are ok and serves whatever purpose they are set up to serve.

If the poster is a programmer he can develop a solution he can sell for N1,000.00.

My problem here is that it seems the N1,000.00 covers everything from domain name to hosting to design.

We may disagree with the poster but insulting him is wrong.

@poster,

My advice to you is this - if you need to progress in life you will learn to be deaf or blind to certain things if necessary.

There was a time when a lot of posters on this forum do nothing but insult and run down whatever website I built even when many of them never understood the basics of web development a many felt it was all about colors and animations. Today, a lot of them have left web development entirely and some have gone into real estate.

My point is that you should not allow comments by people especially insults to weigh you down.

However, it is your duty to better whatever you have now as things can only get better if you believe in yourself and improve on what you do.

Based on a single client request I setup an ecommerce website that individuals and companies are using today (www.itsyourdomain.com). I could decide to sell the software for N5,000.00 per installation.

A final note on cheap and free

Some of us use free email accounts and open source content management systems so if we can rely on free stuff then it is possible and makes logical sense too to expect cheap solutions that can work.

kolitos007:
@Afam

Well maybe for you, I live and work in the UK, and one thing for sure is that you have to show demo of what you can do for free before you have a chance of even getting a web contract. And you finish the product before you get paid, maybe its the competition we get here, when its a bidding war btw developers and the person with best price and best demo still wins the project.

I won't pay for any development work until its complete and if the developer does not accept it, there are many developers out there, sometimes when my work is too large, I outsource to other people or maybe I need to develop flash, I have to out source it, they don't get paid until job is complete.

Its simple and that's the way it should work, I live in the society when every thing is based on trust and work ethics, don't forget there is always a second time, if you mess up, it will be hard for you the next time, as people would not give you good reference.

That's all I can say mate.

Hmm, I think it has more to do with professionalism than competition. Trust is relative because you have court cases in the UK where aggrieved people go to.

In Nigeria, the court process is not that easy and takes unnecessary time.

Now, to the real issue of demos

My take on demos is that a lot of clients usually ask for demos from so many people, pick out the advantages or good points and look for any one that can collect the smallest fee to implement. Whether the project turns out well or not is another matter entirely.

If you have all the time in the world to be doing free demos anytime you are asked to develop a project then I must admit that you have a lot of time on your hands.

The day a bank will open an account for me and allow me to run it for a few days (read as demo) or Nokia will provide me with the latest phone to try out for a few weeks (read as demo) without paying is the day I will consider spending my time on free demos.

inf8nity:
Hey Afam I really must use these punch lines on my prospects soon

No wahala. Na open source be dat, feel free to redistribute, modify or use.

Enjoy!

kolitos007:
@Afam

Well maybe for you, I live and work in the UK, and one thing for sure is that you have to show demo of what you can do for free before you have a chance of even getting a web contract. And you finish the product before you get paid, maybe its the competition we get here, when its a bidding war btw developers and the person with best price and best demo still wins the project.

I won't pay for any development work until its complete and if the developer does not accept it, there are many developers out there, sometimes when my work is too large, I outsource to other people or maybe I need to develop flash, I have to out source it, they don't get paid until job is complete.

Its simple and that's the way it should work, I live in the society when every thing is based on trust and work ethics, don't forget there is always a second time, if you mess up, it will be hard for you the next time, as people would not give you good reference.

That's all I can say mate.

Hmm, I think it has more to do with professionalism than competition. Trust is relative because you have court cases in the UK where aggrieved people go to.

In Nigeria, the court process is not that easy and takes unnecessary time.

Now, to the real issue of demos

My take on demos is that a lot of clients usually ask for demos from so many people, pick out the advantages or good points and look for any one that can collect the smallest fee to implement. Whether the project turns out well or not is another matter entirely.

If you have all the time in the world to be doing free demos anytime you are asked to develop a project then I must admit that you have a lot of time on your hands.

The day a bank will open an account for me and allow me to run it for a few days (read as demo) or Nokia will provide me with the latest phone to try out for a few weeks (read as demo) without paying is the day I will consider spending my time on free demos.

kolitos007:
@Afam
I get your point actually, but you dont' have to pass the code over, at least the client can see the job is done, well I host most of the people I do sites for, we have a mutual understanding, I set price they agree, i complete the job, and upload on my server, they have 14days to pay if they don't pay I take the site off, and use the code for another client or just try and sell the site, it works for me and I am patient not in a desperate rush to get money, that does not help a lot.

It is not the rush for the money, it is the insistence on doing the right thing. Any time and effort put in a project that is not paid for after development is not worth it.

As professionals all we can do is demonstrate competence and provide references when requested.

I have even turned down requests from companies to do demos as I tell them I don't do free demos as such takes time and a programmer's time is precious and must be paid for.

Happy new year.

citizenY:
@Afam,

Just to tell you that you did not get the drift of my comment. Please readit in the context of the
preceding post and you will get it. \The point  here is that some guys tend to deny their kith and kin
when there is a blame to be apportioned. Are  Igbo folk from the fromer midwest really Igbo or not.

A belated compliment and best wishes for the new year. I just dey resume.

Happy new year to you and welcome back.

There are Igbos in present Delta and Rivers states. I cannot deny the Igbos any day.

My worry is the rest of Nigeria that seems to claim that Igbos are only in the present 5 SE states when it suits them.

A large portion of Igbo lands were handed over to Rivers state because of the crude oil and of course one of the consequences of that action is that in any democracy you will see Igbos becoming the governor of that state.

The inconsistency is what I am quarreling with as you cannot argue with facts.

Hope this helps.

Feel free to call me on 08023519492 or send an email explaining in detail what you want to achieve at afam@justwebservices.com.

I am blunt, I am straight forward, I won't waste your time, I am competent and I charge well for web projects because I have the necessary skills to turn whatever business logic you have into software so whatever you want can be web enabled as long as you are willing to pay the price for the project.

kolitos007:
Personally I won't pay for a job until its complete and I see its done, unfortunately this guy may be taken too much on, and can't handle it, if he his ignoring your calls then he his unprofessional and I suggest you part ways with him immediately to save yourself any more loss, you may take this as a lesson learnt  and move on.

Different strokes for different folks they say.

I don't start a project until I have at least 70% of the project cost in my account and the project will be posted on a live server for the client to see and comment on if need be based on the agreement and list of features and functionality.

I don't hand over the project (transfer to client server) until the remaining balance is in my account.

I make sure of the following

1. Every single feature requested must be agreed upon

2. Every single issue must be discussed and sorted out before agreeing on cost.

Meanwhile, happy new year.

@topic,

Funny, I remember exchanging words with the developer in question over his skill sets on this forum. Wonders shall never end!

mikkyphp:
I hope afam realises that it's not enough to just know and say what everyone else should be doing. these things take time and it's especially hard to develop content when this idea of a web conference is still without a blueprint. it would be better if u volunteered to help add content to the website instead of yapping about what othere should and should't have done!

I will advice you go through your posts before hitting the Send button. I have never insulted anyone on this forum but usually respond in kind when insulted.

Your apology below may be an afterthought but my advice is this - make your points without insults as I really do not believe in apologies because every single adult knows what is right or wrong.

mikkyphp:
I never intended any of such. i praise the initators of this great conference and more greese to your elbows. Afam, don't be angree. i'd love to help in any capacity.
ciao

So, to show that I am not angry I will allow the unwarranted insult go, just this once.

Tsiya:
El Rufa'i is a typical Nigerian who rushes to say something before he thinks. Simple basic research would have told him 15 of the Hijackers are Saudi not 11.

It is shocking to read stuff from some Nigerians without any respect for facts. The other day I read where he stated that 6000MW would amount to 58 minutes using 60W bulb.

It seems he never takes time to understand certain issues before commenting on them.

asha 80:
Afam are u seriously considering isreal as a failed state simply becausd of the strikes on palestenians and vice varsa?

I am questioning the rational behind the list and the double standards of the US.

The case of Israel is not just about strikes, Israel maims and kills innocent people while seizing their lands with the full support of the US. Israel supported Apartheid in South Africa and assisted the country in developing a chemical program.

Unless you believe that might is right I see no reason why Israel should not be labelled a terrorist nation.

The present PM in Israel lost his brother while fighting as a mercenary in the infamous 90 minutes at Entebbe.

noblezone:
Well, I dont trust him. Period. If it was sabotage, who was the culprit? Was he not the CIC? He should tell the sabotage story to the chickens in his farm.

Very immature and senseless points. I don't engage in such, sorry.

noblezone:
I reproduced my mail to show that the issues I raised over a year ago are still glaring us in the face without answers. On the other hand, if you feel that your response as then is worth it, then go ahead and reproduce them by yourself. One thing is a fact though, Ribadu is on the run and you cant deny that.

You reproduced a mail you wrote with lies. I responded to the same mail pointing out the lies and you did a reply where you even apologized for one of your many shameless blunders. No one forced you to reproduce the first email you posted and common sense would dictate that you reproduce my reply and yours at least to prove me wrong. Are you ashamed that the readers will see that you have zero credibility?

By the way, no one is denying the fact that Ribadu is on the run for his life so do not make it sound like anyone is disputing that. Why manufacture issues that no one is denying or debating?

noblezone:
I am already living with the fact that you will rather rain abuses than trash out a simple issue. Are we not in Nigeria? Time will surely tell.

I wish you well.

Rain abuses? I can't stand liars and it is not a secret.

Beaf:
It is standard practice for the press all over the World to quote unnamed "sources" for a variety of reasons. There are a few examples in the following "reputable" news pages;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jan/08/mark-thompson-row-bbc-council
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8449953.stm
http://www.dailytech.com/CES+Kicks+Out+Vendors+Who+Try+to+Display+Carry+Out+Business+in+Hotel+Suites/article17354.htm

It is the reasons for keeping sources secret that might differ in very telling ways. While the likes of the BBC would mostly do it to protect the source, or rarely because the UK govt is breathing down their collars; in Nigeria, it is usually because of very real danger to lives and jobs in the news house.
The best thing to do is place news houses on a weighted integrity scale based on experience, hidden sources will never go away.

Our journalists are using these so called sources to manufacture and sell lies and falsehood to the unsuspecting public. There must be a way to punish or penalize media houses that have been proven to mislead the public based on outright lies.

Enough of these "sources", "insider sources", "reliable sources" etc from the media house. This gives room for a lot of lies and conspiracy theories to be fed the unsuspecting public.

There should be a law against unverifiable statements that could trigger real chaos in the country. These media houses have made more than enough money lying and deceiving Nigerians and it is getting out of hand.

ife-coker:
My question is; Nigeria a failed or a corrupt country?

Corrupt. In fact, very corrupt without consequences on the part of the corrupt ones.

naijaweb:
Guys, i am pleased to inform you that the facebook group 'nigeria web conference' has just been created. Please join the group so as to participate and get updated with the latest information as regards the upcoming web conference.
Thanks.

Good to hear that but I still believe that posting live updates on the website will be more engaging, increase the level of interest and drive traffic to the website instead of using a totally different channel to discuss this.

Also consider those that do not like providing their personal information just to register on sites like twitter or facebook.

i-Guru:
@afam
How much will if you were to do the job for me?

A comprehensive list of requirements must be agreed upon before talking about price so as to avoid over charging or under charging you.

For example, do you really want people to bid for products like in a real auction? Who is going to be the receiving entity? You or the registered members?

Put differently, it is wrong to provide a quote without agreeing on scope of work otherwise you will end up quarreling with the service provider.

N.I.Gboi:
Niigeria is not a failed state. how many wars are been fought on our soil? those nigerians that are saying nigeria is a failed state are actually doing what the western world really wants us to do. give up hope so they can come in and take what they want. look at all these countries called failed states, they western world played a role in turning them into what they are.

Exactly! Who is even drawing up the list? Israel that has been in a state of siege, wars where they attack sovereign nations at will is not listed but Nigeria is listed?

US that rigged Bush into office and invaded 2 sovereign nations based on lies is not listed but Cameroun is listed?