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It took the real threat of his football life wasting away and stepping away from the limelight of Old Trafford for him to improve his ways.
He is not there yet however i am happy he seems to be on the right path,really good talent.
the midfield of tunnicliffe,morrison nd pogba was devastating in the youth team

StarBoard: I think Fergie decided not to give Morrison a chance based on his life outside the pitch.
For some reason Feegie was biased towards sending this youngster out. A little bit of mentoring and he woulda been ours, but Ferhie already had his mind made up.
Unfortunate that a raw talent like that was let go. The boy is a baller,and his goal and overall performance today just confirms that.

michael owen was just talking about the problems morrison presented for fergie.
morrison is english and is from the manchester area to boot and has loads of talent,he was always going to be given opportunity like wes brown,welbeck,scholes d nevilles and other local boys with moderate to great talent.

morrison was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend twice,assaulting his own mother. he was arrested for intimidating a robbery victim to try and stop the guy from testifying in court against the robbers (who apparently were friends of morrison). morrison went to the victim's house with a mob to threaten the guy and his family
he had several court ordered counseling programs and fergie tried to integrate him into the senior team, the senior players tried to talk to him but no matter what was tried he just rebelled more and more

coogar: ravel morrison - the best young english player by a country mile. maybe SAF was right he needed to get out of manchester to realise his potential but what a sublime goal he copped tonight against spurs....

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he ran half the length of the pitch & that finish was just world class....villas-boas must be wondering what hit him. imagine what morrison, cleverley, pogba & janujaz would have been like in our midfield now had SAF not brought back scholes in 11/12 season....

very good player,always was.
scholes and cleverley blocked pogba however MORRISON BLOCKED MORRISON.
we all know his myriad of problems with authority,from insubordination to bullying to gang affiliation to witness intimidation to assaulting his girlfriend,assaulting his own mother to alleged theft e.t.c

oh boy see spurs dey chop kondo!
nice goal by our ex thug morrison

ohhh
no music today? wey band boys don dey set stage

u know how it is na!
a whole weekend can not go without music and it seems na arsenal thread we go do our owambe today

montelik: I still hold that sentiment. macheda had an even bigger impact when he came on and saved us during the 08 title run in. where is he now?

we need to not kill him with expectations.

very correct!
i was always of the opinion that the boy was ready to contribute to the 1st team this season HOWEVER he should not be placed under the pressure of the British hype machine.
the boy has great technique but he can still improve in his touch,dribbling and passing to exploit his God given ability to the max.
Also needs to bulk up and improve his decision making.Talent wise he has the POTENTIAL to be the best player we have had since Ronaldo

[quote author=A-40]How many times do I have to correct this fallacy?[/quote]LOL
Bros this is Nairaland where people stick to their preconceptions and misconceptions like glue.

Rio is finished and Vidic's last days are not far away either.He has always had difficulty against pacy players especially when isolated in wide areas AND these days he appears less resolute in his defending.Having said that he is still our best CB at the moment.
What is required now is for Evans,Smalling and Jones to make good progress in their development.

At least band boys no come here today
there has been too much music on this thread already this season

chamotex: Januzaj's contract ends at the end of the season and they are yet to tie him up.
This boy can sign a pre-contract agreement with another club in January o.
If they let this one slip too...

they should better call Fergie back from America to come help seal the deal. Januzaj's agent is attributing the slow pace of negotiations to Moyes replacing Fergie,another bloodsucking agent set on hawking his client to d highest bidder

elampiro: Thank God for three points.

Thanks to De Gea and Janujaz for the victory.

Agreed Rooney was unimpressive today. I would have loved Kagawa to come in at half time.

[b]No one has mentioned RVP miss on face me I face you with the goalkeeper (if na Rooney this thread for don close). RVP also played behind Rooney in most part of first half, what did he do from the hole?

Rooney helped us kept the ball (possession)at the tail end while saving an obvious direct shot from the box straight at the goal. Who knows what should have happened had Rooney not block it.

I can have a sweet two weeks now before next fixtures. [/b]

you are right RVP was poor today too.
that miss was poor especially the lackadaisical way he took the shot,thank God it didn't prove to b a costly one.

GustavoFring: With the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne, Chadli, Mirallas, and Mertens in the squad, I sincerely doubt that they will be found wanting for creativity...

Against the big boys they might.what they play with now is practically 7 defensive players and 3 attacking players AND they use central defenders as their full backs(cos thats d one position they are lacking).

Both Rooney and RVP were very poor but while RVP was quietly stinking up the place Rooney was loudly and energetically crapping all over the pitch like a dysenteric dog

Vidic had a struggle combating Altidore's pace and power all day long Phil Jones had a better game.

Evra and Vidic had decent games........Carrick and Cleverley were really good with their touch,passing and movement.

Nani tried but Januzaj was the YBNL

GustavoFring: I remember one of my homeboys hyping the Youngster during the preseason- Turns out the boy could become a Young Star...and deny Ashley Young Starts. _{Oboy see rhyming}

Belgium will be the side to watch at the Worldcup

they stand a better chance if they push dembele back to central midfield to partner witsel permanently,drop fellaini to the bench and use a real no 10 on a regular basis. the witsel,dembele,fellaini axis is not creative enough and too defensive especially for a team that plays 4 CBs in defense.

chamotex: I didn't lock it o...powers from above.

oga at the top did u see adnan the man?

chamotex: Where is afrodoc?

i dey here,i no loss na

why u dey look for me?

GustavoFring: The boy must have browsed Nairaland during the half-time teamtalk

Last week it was Rooney, This week Januzaj....It seems like every Man Utd Player Coogar slates before the game turns round to silence him

hehehehe!

i remember when guys were debating on whether januzaj should be loaned out, the guy is good enough for the squad right now even though we know he wont start most games.
another thing is if we loan him out now then we will lose him to another big team when his contract runs out.
he has special talent and is one of the guys that should feature regularly in moyes rotation especially with the other wingers off form

altidore having his way with vidic

vidic! see assist

the lineup is good enough to beat a Sunderland side in free fall and devoid of real quality.
januzaj is facing a newbie at the sunderland's RB position (Celustka) ,he should be able to give the guy a baptism of fire

Fellaini is soooo SLOW and he has the turning arc of a MACK truck.

debosky: Lampard isn't a 10, so that's the wrong comparison. A better one would be Joe Cole, who did play wide, or even Oscar who can play centrally and wide as well.

All midfielders at Arsenal play wide at some point or the other - Fabregas did, Ramsey did, Wilshere did/does, Cazorla did/does, Ozil does.



Is the lack of effectiveness due to Rooney's deficiencies or the forwards? That is the question to ask. Last time I checked, not only the 10 determines whether goals are scored.

those strikers are veritable goal machines, u know that.
even giroud has received more through balls than United's strikers!

wayne rooney has to make more through balls and less long balls.
long balls can only be made when you are A LONG WAY from the opposition goal e.g central midfield or in ur half.
what is he doing so far from goal when United have had majority possession in practically all our games this season?

dademola: we havnt scored frm open play ever since we beat swansea 1-4. On dt dai, welbeck played in d hole behind rvp and we won! Y arent pple clamouring for welbeck to get d "hole" spot den, since he played der dt dai and we scored 4 goals?

kagawa is a player who has excelled in the hole before so i believe he should be given more chances to play his preferred position especially if the guy who is playing the role is not performing his task satisfactorily. I am a fan of both rooney and kagawa so this is not an attempt to rubbish rooney but i believe kagawa should be given more opportunities in that position lets see what he is truly made of.
if he succeeds good and if he fails well the clamor will die down.

oh boy see gang up on Rooney
The one thing we know is that if one feeds either RVP or Chicharito with quality chances they will score goals galore.....thats a given.
So the blame lies with the 3 behind the striker whose primary function is to prove creativity......the man in the hole and the wingers.

However i would lay the blame FIRST on the wingers who have been so dire and diabolically poor al season long and even going back to last season.
After them though Wayne Rooney has to accept a large portion of the blame too cos those stats show that he is drifting way too deep and not performing his primary function which is to PLAY IN THE HOLE and link up play with the strikers and wingers PREFERABLY IN SHORT INTERCHANGES.

lets compare his stats with someone that excels in that position Ozil

Wayne Rooney has tried 35 long balls and only 4 through balls, Ozil has played fewer minutes obviously and has played just 8 long balls but same number of through balls as Rooney 4.

David Silva has 9 long ball and 8 through ball attempts and Aguero has 3 long ball and 2 through ball attempts

Rooney is giving a lot of effort but he is not applying it in the best way to play in the hole .TOO MANY LONG BALLS AND TOO FEW THROUGH BALLS.
Having said all this our incompetent wingers are culprits no 1 then rooney for our lack of creativity up front

SailorXY: I no know wetin una wan achieve with this argument. Berbatov is no longer with this team duh!

lol no vex bro just a lil distraction from United's problems

OK on to the next one.

Another case in point you hear that Berbatov has 33 european goals in 79 matches compared Drogba 46 in 90 and Rooney 33 in 78.
u think that well that is not too bad until u realise that 19 of his goals came in the uefa cup (including the 7 against mighty Tiraspol) and his champions league record is actually 14 GOALS IN 56 MATCHES.

he is the classical bottom feeder and flat track bully

another nugget ....... a whopping 21 percent of his European goals came in 2 matches against the great Tiraspol of Moldova.
he is a stat padder of the highest calibre

coogar: you are plumbing the depths of idiocy with this meaningless stats. i have told you already your method if choosing the top four is largely flawed. i won't even mention your ridiculous assumption that berbatov must have started all the games against your supposed top teams.

scientifically, your theory is flawed!!!



when liverpool won the champions league in 04/05, they were 5th. when chelsea won the champions league in 11/12, they finished 6th. by your ridiculous insipid assumption, strikers that scored against these 2 teams in those seasons did not score against a top team.

you are arguing against logic....



if you compute this same stat for rooney, RVP or suarez, you would find out a higher percentage of their goals came from bottom sides.



nah, you have shot yourself in the foot - computing meaningless stats that do not have a definite top four teams. your logic fails to recognise liverpool(04/05) & chelsea(11/12) as a top team. the whole world is laughing at you....

yet you the master of stats has not been able to show stats to back up your claim.
u mentioned ronaldo and messi and RVP

WELL show us with facts and figures which of them has capitalized on bottom feeder relegated teams to score 30 percent of his league goals like Berbatov?
The fact remains that compared to top strikers for big teams he scores a disproportionately high percentage of his goals against the yeye defences of relegation bound teams.
Thats why he is a flat track bully

a draw would do for in all honesty. it would be too bad if another defeat is recorded

Did ronaldo or messi score 30 percent of their goals against teams soooo bad that they were relegated?
no b democratically dem dey share their love?

even your often maligned Rooney has scored 11 percent of his goals against quality teams that ended up in the top 4.

coogar: that's another flawed argument.
only 20% of the teams in the world are top teams. the other 80% are shyte teams. logic then dictates a striker is 4 times likelier to score against a weak team than a top team.

ronaldo scored 34 league goals last season, only 3 of them were against top sides(barcelona & athletico), he scored 2 against sociedad(another champions league representative).

in a nutshell, 29 of ronaldo's 34 league goals were scored against shyte sides. by your logic, ronaldo is a flat track bully. ronaldo scored hatricks against deportivo, getafe, sevilla. why didn't he do the same against barca or athletico?

you have shot yourself in the foot....

every season there are 19 teams to face in the league.
assuming berbatov's team always finishes in the top 4 it means he has a minimum of 3 teams that finish in the top 4 to play against.
so one assumes that if things were balanced berbatov should have scored about 3/19(15%) of his EPL goals against teams that finished in the top 4. even if its not up to 15 percent it should be somewhere close to that.

however to my dismay i found out that berbatov had scored ONLY 6 out of his 90 EPL goals against teams that finished in the top 4 giving a percentage of 6.6 percent!

the same way there are 3 relegated teams every season so one expects him to score about 3/19 or 15 percent of his goals against them.

however to my dismay i found out that he had score a whooping 27 out 90 goals i.e 30 percent of his goals against teams that were relegated.

now u shot urself in the foot

he is the epitome of the flat track bully

i am off this, have things do