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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:02pm On Aug 28, 2013
they are going to be very dangerous going forward
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 6:02am On Aug 28, 2013
RuuDie: Yeah right...more toothless than Arsenal against Villa abi!

Well, what else do we expect from the fan of a club who have somehow SUCCESSFULLY managed to win nothing in just under a decade!
CHOI!!! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:23pm On Aug 27, 2013
debosky: Go and sit down. I can criticise anything I want, even if I support Crewe Alexandria. tongue
u know see as person tire for u? anyhow which way,hope u know that crewe and arsenal have the same number of UCL/European Cup titles? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:16pm On Aug 27, 2013
debosky: I don't know who 'touted' anything, we'll see how good this Chelski midfield is when they play Bayern. This weakest midfield won the league at a stroll, and would've gone further in the CL if not for Nani's wahala.

When Utd start seeing improvements in such toothless performances, then there is a serious issue.
why are you taking panadol for another person's headache now? a draw against Chelsea is not the worst result in the world especially considering our EPL record against them.
like coogar and sailorXY said it wasnt the best performance possible but 2 obvious positives were 1)the increased work rate of the players 2)our domination of possession which is unusual against Chelsea especially a Chelsea with 6 midfielders 3)team selection
lastly, an arsenal fan coming to criticize the positives we have seen in our team is a bit strange.thats a bit rich considering the fact that you and your fellow gunners on the arsenal thread have been squeezing out positives from your lackluster team for the last EIGHT years cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m):
SailorXY: Levy somehow decided to accept a lesser fee for Modric from Madrid instead of £40m from Chelstink
LOL u are just buttressing my point.didnt u see the words LOCAL RIVAL in my post? when he rejected chelsea a local rival who offered more for modric why would he accept United (another local rival) who is possibly offering less?
for e.g United would prefer to sell Rooney to Monaco for 30m instead of Chelsea for 40m
Spurs mindset has now changed,they dont want to be d feeder club to other top EPL teams again
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:10am On Aug 27, 2013
yes heard about madrid wanting to pay in installments
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:43pm On Aug 26, 2013
chamotex: He can only go where a bid is accepted.
If they don't accept the Madrid bid he can't go there
but if madrid offers more money it would not make sense for levy to accept the bid
of a local rival for less money
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:34pm On Aug 26, 2013
he is definitely leaving spurs but the most likely destination remains madrid.i dont want to get any hopes up,na so we toast thiago(allegedly), fabregas(ashamedly), fellaini(disrespectfully) and modric/ozil(haphazardly) YET nobody don come
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:21pm On Aug 26, 2013
SailorXY: Bale is not Portuguese bro grin
ehn? na lie! u mean he isn't from Setubal?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:04pm On Aug 26, 2013
chamotex: You know there were reports another team have made a bid for Bale this morning.
Moyes was asked about Bale and he just said something in the line of 'this club will always be in for top quality players'.The exact statement he made at his first press conference.

He was asked again specifically and he said 'I can't tell you anymore than that'

He didn't say yes but obviously didn't really say no or dismiss it.
hmmmm. i just dey observe.who no like better thing? and bale is surely a better thing.but there are 3 factors
1) doubt if we can outbid madrid
2) dont tink this present spurs will sell yet another star to a fellow EPL team
3) not sure bale would choose united over madrid
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:55pm On Aug 26, 2013
i didn't. what was said?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:46pm On Aug 26, 2013
chamotex: The Lampard handball?
I don't think that was a penalty...its highly debatable.

I think we have to go to Anfield and win now, we cant afford to drop any more points before we play Citeh
i agree.and with the level of defensive solidity and midfield cohesion i saw today i am abit more optimistic than i was before the game.down the line this season i suspect nani and zaha would be the answer to our wing play problems
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:19pm On Aug 26, 2013
Mr_TA: Horrid boring match. Lots of poor individual performances. We still lack that physical presence in midfield but its the creativity we lacked most. Our final ball was so bad. Can't believe Kagawa isn't getting a chance to play. I bet money he leaves this close season. We're still playing Giggs in big matches. Smh.

We did have the better chances and the ref didn't help by not giving us an obvious pen but that's life I guess. On to the next one.

Also if Chelsea don't want Mata can we have him? I can't believe he can't get into the starting 11. That's ridiculous.
spot on about the final ball being bad. our major problem today was the lack of incisive wing play.that is traditionally united's strength. good wingers would have stretched the play and made it difficult for chelsea to block d box. d only reason valencia is staring is that he is the only fully fit one
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m):
i said it grin

moyes brings giggs into d game

would have preferred anderson instead of giggs,the boys needed so energy boost
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:30pm On Aug 26, 2013
ashley young showing valencia how to cross d ball
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:11pm On Aug 26, 2013
fkkkkkk
remove welbekkkk
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:55pm On Aug 26, 2013
chrisley024: Rooney was poor this half. We need CM. Cleverly plays it too safe though he has been good.
rooney wasnt too bad considering all the off field distractions.
our CM dominated and we had far more of the ball than chelsea and we had more coherent build up. our wide men welbeck and valencia are d ones not doing enough to take the full backs on and whip balls into d box
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:51pm On Aug 26, 2013
our full backs have to be careful and watch for counter attacks in d 2nd half. their average position is deep in the opposition half.
the creative options on the bench are kagawa and ashley young.who comes on and who gets taken off?
but i suspect moyes will bring giggs on,LOL
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:05pm On Aug 26, 2013
rooney should pls not cop a red card o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:44pm On Aug 26, 2013
i think its schurrle. shey JM sef wan dey use false 9? ok na
with this formation i see lots of possession for chelsea but i think we have more cutting edge in attack
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:20pm On Aug 26, 2013
moyes is not smiling ! awon eleyi jeyan awon Idi Amin grin
but seriously hope we are not left wide open in central midfield
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 5:21pm On Aug 26, 2013
dademola: i think d best thing to do is to compare d performances of both playas during each one's 1st 6mnths @ chelsea. Afterall, both playas arrived in january, so d issue of "blending time" shudnt arise...
well both torres and demba played 14 games in their first 6 months at chelsea.
demba ba scored 2 goals to average 1 goal every 7 games while torres score a grand total of ONE goal to average a goal every 14 games
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 5:18pm On Aug 26, 2013
A-40:
This argument is not valid! There is no proof that Ramires is faster! Focus on the topic at hand and stop using far fetched examples

Gundogan is as quick if not quicker than Ramires the onus is on you to prove otherwise and stop using far fetched examples and comparisons
no the onus is on you to prove that gundogan is faster than ramires smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:19am On Aug 26, 2013
dademola: i hav a feeling giggs wld be bad news for us today...
if moyes is smart he wouldnt start giggs. he was poor against swansea (had one of the worst pass completion percentages in the whole league) and i dont think he has d legs for these chelsea boys.
play carrick and cleverley deep and anderson in an advanced role behind valencia,welbeck and RVP.......Rooney,Kagawa etc on d bench as d cavalry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 7:01am On Aug 26, 2013
RuuDie: I agree that changes and fresh legs were needed. But I also believe amount of tactical or personnel changes would have made a world of difference if the players had already see the game as a lost cause...this is where I faulted Vilanova against Bayern. He had a team that should never be written off regardless of the circumstances because everyone knows what they are capable of when they turn on the style; he made no visible signs to motivate the side!

When a team losses a man in such circumstances heads tend to drop - they first need to be "lifted", positive, upbeat in their approach...energy levels need to go up. Get everyone from players to fans pumped up; get 'em believing that the goal can still be achieved, that is very important too. At a point, you could see Giggs too trying to rouse the crowd and fellow players.

Football isn't all about tactics all the time...the mindset of the players is important too!
very true and THAT (not tactics) was the basis of the famous last minute comebacks our club is known for.however those comebacks are no longer as magnificent as in the days of cantona,cole,yorke etc
against madrid after a few minutes it was apparent that we were under the cosh and the team needed to be stabilised,that was were fergie's age showed (his reaction time was even slower than ever).well that one done go, on to today's match what is ur preferred line up?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 1:19am On Aug 26, 2013
the fact that hargreaves played on the right should not even b debated.
litmus test elamps who played on the right wing in 99 against bayern?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:33am On Aug 26, 2013
just making me remember that squad sad
hargreaves injury problem is probably the greatest on field loss to United in the last 10years (not counting players that were sold).his game was perfect for united and carrick,scholes,hargreaves and a fit fletcher would have made us dominate in England even more than we eventually did
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 12:25am On Aug 26, 2013
elampiro, hargreaves played on the right side of midfield that day
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 12:09am On Aug 26, 2013
coogar: one goal a season doesn't say anything - ba has 2 goals in 900 mins.
Torres this year is averaging ONE GOAL EVERY 1000 MINUTES while Demba Ba is averaging ONE GOAL EVERY 450 MINUTES.
spot d difference
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 10:22pm On Aug 25, 2013
coogar: how many assists has he got? answer that question first....a striker with 1 goal + 9 assists cannot be rated the same with a striker with 1 goal + 0 assist if they both copped 1000 mins. the former has directly contributed to 10 goals, the latter has contributed to just 1 goal.
ONE GOAL IN A THOUSAND MINUTES SAYS A WHOLE LOT cheesy
can u help us with his assist stats this year if u would be so kind? smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 9:32pm On Aug 25, 2013
ONE THOUSAND MINUTES? sounds ridiculous!
thats longer than Jodhaa Akbar,Khoon Pasina and Daana Veera Soora Kama combined! cheesy ojigbijigbi
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 9:26pm On Aug 25, 2013
coogar: who cares about that? how many assists has he had since then? look around the premier league....benteke takes penalties for villa, soldado for spurs, van persie for man utd. soldado's 2 goals this season has been from pens, 2 of benteke's 3 goals this season were from pens.....if they are chelsea players, soldado would have nothing, benteke would have 1 goal in 3 games.

i can't blame torres - lampard should let nando take penalty kicks.
subtract penalties from their records,which of them has an average of ONE GOAL in ONE THOUSAND MINUTES?

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