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elampiro: Population:

The whole of Britain is 60m

Germany is 80m

Yet most of the athletes are from England which is 50m.

Germany should be shred into smaller countries. Too big and powerful in Europe.

Now they are too big and powerful?
Just a few posts ago you implied that they were weak and had used table soccer to win most of their medals.
make up your mind

dayokanu: If England is adding Scotland Wales and Ireland.

Should we also add France Holland and Austria to Germany.

U dont even need to do that.
From 1960 to 1988 WEST Germany beat United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in every olympic games table.
After unification Germany continued to beat them in every olympic game until the 2008 olympics.
That is 48 straight years of domination but as elampiro says it was all because of table soccer

chamotex: Only elampiro has watched table soccer at the olympics before

LOL
What are you implying?

elampiro: Hahaha.

[b]Those days there were plenty medals in shooting. Any one who worked for Hitler would definitely be a sharp shooter. Things like that that are no longer relevant.

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My people perish for lack of knowledge.Because thou hast rejected knowledge, i will also reject thee.......

dademola: Abeg wich kind of table soccer?? Shey na d one wey dem dey use bottle tops of coke, fanta etc as players??

ojigbijigbi

i tire from work elamps baba just dey make me laff. i don rejuvenate, e b like say when night come i go enter town

elampiro: Brazil is the best primarily on number of world cups won. But again the confederation kings. Champion of Champions.

In olympics, some useless games have been dropped. Now the real sports games played by many countries have been given priority. Table soccer and temo kind of sports which boosted weak countries in the past are gone forever. Now the real sports men are making statements.

hahaha . are you for real?

[quote author=elampiro]Brazil also is the holder of the last FIFA organized cup for champions of champions- Confederation cup. They beat Spain 3-0.

Moreover, football is a one game and it is easy to tell the best country. Unlike Sports generally, some games have been phased out while more medals given to some sports than others based on contemporary interests.

Those days it was easy to win many medals via shooting or playing temo

I hear you

elampiro: Olympic is a combination of many games, not just one. The British are gain complete dominance in some of the games. Now they triumphed twice. I guess they even beat Russia the last time.

It is not a one off victory in 2008. Two consecutive run meant they are here to stay. They are now a better Sports people than Germans.

On the other head, Brazil holds the confederation cup at the expense of Spain, the European champion.

LOL to judge the best in sports you use the olympics but to judge the best in football you dump the world cup and use the confederations cup
Can you see the anomaly in your reasoning?

elampiro: I was talking about last olympics. The British have taken over since 2008 and they are widening the gap.

LOL if you are talking about the last olypmics how can you then say Brazil is the best country in football?
How many world cups have been held since Brazil last won?
Your criterion is not consistent.

elampiro: How many gold medals did Germany win in last olympics? Compare with Britain. The British are stronger in the track and Swimming. May be even Basket ball and Golf.

Since u mentioned Brazil as the best in football i assume when you are comparing these countries you are talking about overall performance in the olympics not performance in just the last one.
I believe you did not start watching the olympics 5yrs ago.

Actually remove Germany from that list.
And if u take the time and effort to add olympic medals you will see just how wrong you are.
historically the Germans are the 3rd most successful in the last 3 to 4 decades after the Russians and Americans.
UK is not even close, their resurgence just started in 2008.

elampiro: You want us to go into details or elaborate? The British are better sports people than Spanish, [b]Germans [/b]and Italians put together. Go and add all the gold medals of all the three whether they got close to what Britain won at the olympics. The British command some sports/games.

Italy, Germany, Spain are not the best in football. It's Brazil. So also England is the 2nd best in Cricket and one of the best in Rugby. In the tracks, the British are better too. I stop here for now.

not sure about that one bro.

elampiro: You want us to go into details or elaborate? The British are better sports people than Spanish, [b]Germans [/b]and Italians put together. Go and add all the gold medals of all the three whether they got close to what Britain won at the olympics. The British command some sports/games.

Italy, Germany, Spain are not the best in football. It's Brazil. So also England is the 2nd best in Cricket and one of the best in Rugby. In the tracks, the British are better too. I stop here for now.

not sure about that one bro.

elampiro: What does Dayokanu & co enjoy in Bindesliga sef? Over 90% of their matches are not only boring but annoying. See Stuttgart vs Nurberg is like punishment to me. Every five minutes I saw was like I took 6 stroke of the cane. Now I ended with a body pain. It is tantamount to watching Kuwait U21 vs Venezuela U21.

I will rather see QPR vs Wigan.

LOL

Lampard played often in the no 10 position for Chelsea in those years, the problem is he did not (and still does not) have the technique, vision and overall skill level we have come to associate with that position.
He played as a no10 but he did not play like a no10

[quote author=♛AndrERush♛]This is a complete nonsense from the media or from wherever you got the rumour from.[/quote]
Does not seem likely to me too........but one can never tell

Also let us not forget DM for making good substitutions at the right time.
okay performance in summary but its not yet uhuru

this was one of our better performances of the season albeit against a team in poor form. The defense was okay and not as disorganized as we have been seeing and there was far more movement and sharp passing in midfield and in attacking areas.
The rooney/kagawa combo showed some promise in the last 15 minutes, however when RVP comes back big decisions would have to be made.
IMO since RVP is nursing niggling injuries i would start kagawa behind rooney in the Stoke match with RVP on the bench JUST TO SEE IF THERE IS PROMISE IN THIS PARTNERSHIP.
And of course baba giggs woke up on the right side of the bed today

dademola: If twas rooney dt wasted d kagawa chance, pple wld hav called for his head

LOL

LOL see to and fro abi na back and forth?
this thread don dey lose focus small small

[quote author=A-40]Those protective gear are probably what keep those players alive[/quote]definitely

phiszo: can you guys stop discussing about rugby?

LOL its American Football not Rugby

Hmmmm i don't think there is any cause for vitriolic arguments in this particular matter.
Dademola,Coogar and Starboard all agree that Rooney has been poor this season and he should be shifted from the no10 position for someone else to play the role.
The only difference i can make out is that Dademola believes Rooney should not be blamed for ALL United's problems as there are other issues with the team. This i believe is generally accepted as people here have at different times criticized Rio,Fellaini,Welbeck,our wing play and of course David Moyes.
Unless Rooney is now an Agent Smith who inhabits the bodies of the aforementioned people i don't see why anybody would blame Rooney for the failings of other adult men!

chamotex: For me, good management still plays a huge role, we can sign the best players, if they are not utilised corectly with the right formation/tactics we would still struggle in some ways.

Come on we have Chicha, Zaha, Kagawa etc...these players are decent enough and with our current performances they can't even get a game, what does that tell you?



How can a club like united scrap such a vital role...the mind boggles

I completely agree with you that is why i was usually against those who were always quick to criticize SAF team selections and substitutions here. They did not understand how good we had it for years, Fergie was dominating a top league like the EPL with above average players and challenging periodically in Europe also.
We all agree we need a better manager than Moyes but barring a catastrophe of monumental proportions e.g relegation battle, i suspect he will get 2 seasons at least to prove himself. Therefore i don't see any changes in manager mid-season and at the end of this season, however if we can't improve the manager for now at least we can improve the players. With better players he would find it a lil more difficult to mess things up.
PLUS Rio and Giggs need to retire and we should sell off all dead wood e.g Asinine Young,Anderson,Fellaini e.t.c

chamotex: Quick question guys, who in our backroom staff replaced Rene as our technical coach? Please don't tell me it's Phil Neville

And do you guys feel we would be able to sign marquee players if these dire performances continue?

The rot is setting in but the situation is still salvageable.
Its very likely we wont make top 4 this season and that would be very bad BUT the disaster would be if we miss out on it again next season. Missing out on the champions league 2 years in a row would set us on a slide of liverpudlian proportions.
Now some will say aiming for top 4 is defeatist,well to them i say look at the league table (we are not even in the europa league places).
To answer your question we can still sign marquee players if we pay top dollar for REALISTIC targets in January or at the end of THIS season. However if as time goes on we remain mediocre we would find it more and more difficult to sign world class talent.

[quote author=A-40]Where is El-Guapo that was raving about Luiz? Luiz ko Hamilton ni! That one na player?


A 120kg ninja would be an undersized linebacker in the NFL at best! Linebacker is not even the largest position. Let's see the rugby ninja that would survive 320+ pound defensive tackles and nose tackles like Vince Wilfork,Casey Hampton or Haloti Ngata padding or no padding

Rugby wey like 7 or 8 ninjas go form convoy dey throw ball to themselves na him you dey compare to gridiiron? Taaa


Protection doesn't do much judging by the post-career nervous problems these ninjas deal with! The violence and carnage is far beyond what rugby can provide[/quote]

I am actually on your side, however its a fact that NFL players wear more protection than rugby players. Having said that the NFL is more violent than rugby, the players are bigger,faster and more violent and the hits are more vicious

we won the season last season because
a) we had SAF a legendary winner with EPL experience......now he is gone and his likes are rare

b) our rivals were weak......they have all strengthened this season liverpool,arsenal,chelsea,city and spurs have all improved their squads from last season.
the manager seems to be rubbish yes but don't overestimate the quality of our players.
when i say wholesale i don't mean the whole team but for starters
1) rio ferdinand and ryan giggs should retire
2) ashley young and anderson sold.....one for being asinine and the other for being fat and not delivering on potential
3) fellaini sold off to a mugu russian club or something for 20 million pounds
4) rooney sold to a mugu french club like PSG or Monaco
5) possibly a world class center back to ease vidic out the door soon

6) REPLACE THESE PLAYERS WITH REAL QUALITY!
especially in central midfield

SAF spoiled a lot of United fans by winning titles with mediocre squads. ever since tevez and ronaldo left the teams we have put out have been average, the only reason i had faith in us still competing for titles was the old gaffer. now he has left the mediocrity of most of these players will be exposed

those changes were idiotic.
this is a manager who all his life has played not to lose rather than play to win.
the title is definitely out of the equation however top 4 is still possible to salvage the season.
one thing is certain ,wholesale changes are needed in the team come winter and the next off season.
if that doesnt work moyes will get the sack sometime next season

dayokanu: And one toad was comparing FAILLAINI to Javi Martinez on this thread

name and shame! who is the toad?

david moyes shot himself in the foot with his substitutions AND his thick skukk has not yet processed the fact that United don't do 1-0s especially this present defence.
taking rooney off for smalling and taking nani off for giggs was idiotic to say the least

rooney and fellaini are competing for Poo.n.e.s.s today.
the ease with which fellaini has been beaten today is alarming and of course his brain seems too slow for the game

Rooney is having a stinker.
giving up the ball closer and closer to United's goal

[quote author=♛AndrERush♛]Truth be told, Vidic hasn't had the best of season so far, maybe Moyes is trying to send a message to him that he should step up or run the risk of losing his spot, Or maybe he just decided to go for mobility here. like I pointed out yesterday, mobility will be key against a team like Soton, hopefully Evans and Jones will step up and prove Moyes right.[/quote]yes hope they do.its a good line-up with lots of mobility in most areas apart from central midfield