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GenBuhari: agabaI23

how far?

General Buhari, the professional presidential candidate. I hail oo.
I dey!

How ur side?

GenBuhari: @HG it is well with you.

you are a great motivator.

For my side I am well, I had lost some weight but starting to put on a bit again.

Even though you won't talk to me, I will talk to you. I must say I have missed your peanut logs

Ten1: ASUU needed to go back to members, as they practise internal democracy; it would be wrong for them to sign without the member's consent. And pls stop deifying GEJ

Why did it take them ages to go back to their members?

adonismuller: okay I'v heard and admit...please move on !tanx...

Oh boy why you come tell them say you get M.Sc now?

[quote author=Hour_Glass]Ewwwh!!! My head dey swell like garri o.

Thanks y'all for asking. Morale is just too low that is all but I promise to be fine.

Thanks Mody love. Agaby love, you are simply irreplaceable.

General where have you been since these years, how is your sweetheart and your lovely kids. How is fitness too?[/quote]That's my beibe!
Mody thanks for the idea it worked

skimpychick: Ikom na inyom . Kitaa buzikwa inyom na inyom, ikom na ikom owee puta akwam cup . Agaba u like ikwa cup ehh no be small. Kedu ebe tosh no?, tosh, tosh eeeee

Skimpy O na-ato gi ilu?

kreami diva: skimpy! agaba!! tosh!!!

ana m ele unu wit corner-eye ooo

Kreami panti nne ee, m gwagi otu o siri di now, I were ego niile I natara sendi my account sharpish no jokes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lUFM8yTtUc

Baby, this is all for you!

RIP Mandela

1 game at a time

babs2011: Hey guys, im in the vehicle too o, lets finish this year strong!

10km brisk walk today.

And that's awesome barbie!

I have been at it too.

Did some 4 km on treadmill 21 minutes. Some guy asked me after, 'do you run, are you an athlete? He saw me doing 15 km/hr
Abs roller 60 reps
other things......fun fun fun

I am missing my sweetheart. Lemme go look for her. This is getting out of hand!

In Europe, if a man shaves off his armpit, girls think he is gay. So they only expect the ladies to do the shaving while guys don't. The truth is, Europe is not as hot and humid as Africa. Even at that, they still smell!

[quote author=prof.femi]Fagge has said time and again that ASUU NEC does not have executive powers. They could not sign an MOU until they got the backing of the branches.[/quote]Fine and good but they didn't indicate that they will want a signed agreement. They requested for a letter of comfort which I learnt was sent out without signing and they rejected it. They President himself called the Fagge to apologise. The letter was retrieved and signed.

They should have indicated their interest in signing an MOU even if at a later date but no they rejected it.

otokx: It is not every hogwash you respond to; why is FG refusing to sign now and instead resorting to military tactics which even IBB has said did not work.

1. You don't push your employer around
2. You don't dishonour the presidency, why did it take them 3 weeks after the meeting to respond to the president?
3. Like the president said, they had 4 days to articulate their demand, why didn't they remember all those?
4. You don't call that hogwash because he said it before Alhaji Fagge who didn't say it was a lie.
5. Otokx

ATMC: lol@pom pom...
anyway, somebody azara m ya bu ajuju. ife ana-akpo umunwoke na umu nwanyi bu ndi ikom na ndi inyom. Ya mere, o bu a direct translation of a man 'pushing'...an ikom pushing in...ikom ikwa inyom hence the name ikwa ikom...ikwa iko...oya say me thank you for the lecture

Una dey push when una dey do? me I no dey push. I no gree for that explanation. Ihe oputaranu bu na nani inyo m na-akwa iko.

chess guru: Hmmm hopefully, I will come around to that.
When I speak, I speak from a position of management, or in this case, if I where in mr presidents shoes.
Bro there needs to be some sign of compromise or shifting of ground by ASUU.
I believe where ASUU made a mistake was not asking for these signatures while meeting the president. Once again I stand to be corrected but I believe after the meeting with the president, they gave him the impression of having come to an agreement, only to come back and insist on one more thing. In negotiations, its seen as bad faith.
#just my opinion tho

According to Okupe, the FG wanted an MOU to be signed by both parties after the meeting but ASUU preferred letter of comfort (whatever that means). He said this before Fagge who did not counter it. That's the annoying part.

Demdem:
Goon, I have seen liars and deceivers but urs is at a different realm altogether. Surely u tried in ur deceit, afterall e were able to deceive ur kind.
What u quoted was a response to a small portion of a deceitful post. Still on that page six of that thread u quoted, the below was my response after my ignorance was cured the issue




Fool how is this position different from my current position as regards ASUU and FG?
Can't u see that demdem is as consistent as ASUU himself.
Agreement is agreement goon. Try again.

My friend I think you have learned a new attitude since the last time I talked with you, you were not this foul mouthed.
Having said that, I have to acknowledge that I didn't see this post of yours not that it would have changed much of my opinion about your approach but I would've put up my post differently.

Now in the said post

Demdem: I was among the first on this thread and it seems my questions has just been answered. If TRULY the above as highlighted by NGAk are the the main issues[b] i think i will like to allign myself with the Docs somehow[/b].

You were not convinced. You were not assertive in condemning the act then as you are in this present case and yet there is no difference between the two cases. Why were you 'thinking' about it then? Why is your decision somehow? You will align with them somehow, why somehow, why not totally? You are not aligning with ASUU somehow. Are you?

The bottom line is there is an agreement with the STATE govt (not even the fed) concerning these issues. All parties should learn to honor agreements no matter what

This is state government. No name calling and no disrespectful words. Here again, 'all parties' was used. You couldn't even muster the courage here to ask the State govt to honour the agreement like you telling the FG. Even though you said agreement should be honoured, you preferred to use 'all parties' which includes the doctors. I have not seen any of your posts where you gave the FG such a privilege in the on-going discussion.

Even if the state govt cant afford it now, there are ways u can just cajole these people to be patient and sensitive to other professionals within the sector to avoid any misgivings.

This is giving the State government soft landing. Here, the president sat with them for 13 hrs cajoling them but you wouldn't see that. You suggested then and GEJ saw your suggestion and acted on it but you are still calling for his head. You have forgotten that other professional will take a cue from ASUU if all these disrespect to the president is allowed to sail through. They are holding the president to ransome. You didn't think other trade unions are watching. You will only think rationally if Fashola is involved. Deploy the same reasoning in the present case my friend.

sacking them for demanding their lawful right (based on this agreement) to me seems to be too harsh.

Why 'seems'? Why not say it is too harsh? Seems means you are not sure or you are being careful not condemn your governor.

Also the docs needs to be careful. Its getting obvious now that the vast populace seems to be fed up with their incessant strikes. A struggle that seems not be be in the people's good books will eventually fall no matter what and i believe this is what the state govt is capitalizing on.

Now you are telling the doc's to be careful. Tell ASUU to be careful too. The same reasoning you posted then applies today. The populace are no longer comfortable with the prolonged strikes that are incessant too. Yet when the students who bear the brunt of the action are here registering their displeasure, you attack them. Is it not obvious to you that vast majority of the populace are no longer in support of the strike? Did you not hear that most chapters wanted the strike called off? This is even worse than the doctors case where there was no breaking of ranks. Within the academics rank, the tune is heavily discordant but you refused to see that.

have the docs considered taking the legal route? i understand the fact that they cant dictate to their employers but me think this agreement should be legally binding somehow (someone help out here).

You understand this but you are clapping for ASUU for disrespecting the seat of the president of your country and dictacting to FG their employer. You want ASUU to play god to their employer. In the case of Fashola vs doctors you were not sure it is binding, but in the case Jonathan VS ASUU, you are sure it is binding. Haba mana!

In summary, the people comes first. The side that has the people at its side will eventually win this struggle. Either the doc or govt, Time will tell.

You have refused to see that the students come first here. You have refused to acknowledge that the students want to go back to school. You have refused to understand that ASUU members want the strike called off.
You don't even want to give the FG the same chance like you gave the govt of Lagos state.

And finally this post still stands.

Demdem: I disagree. they arent selfish. many among them are jobless and just needs something to survive.

It is there to buttress the fact that you are for the sack even as much as you didn't want anyone to see that. If you don't know, it is an inadvertent support for the sack.

Let a third party judge my submissions. My friend, there is not much different from what I said.
You didn't attack APC government the way you are attacking the PDP led government. You found it difficult to condemn them infact you didnt condemn them.

Demdem, what is good for the goose is good for gander!

jmaine: Thanks once again bruv . . . .You just shredded the hypocrisy of the Alabosi Progrethieves Congress.

Yes bro, we shall continue with our charity work

It should be recalled that ASUU had battled the Buhari/Idiagbon regime’s policy of retrenchment of workers and freezing of wages; gave support to the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) and the National Association of Resident Doctors (NARD) when they went on their patriotic strike to rescue the deteriorating health services in Nigeria in 1984.

APC should shut up

berem: Federal Government can never sack lecturers! Babangida and Abacha tried it during their respective military regime,it didn't work. It will not work either under a clueless government headed by Wike a minister of education and Jonathan a president.

Fashola tried it with doctors too.

ATMC: kedu ife o digi ka obu reason e ji akpo for.ni.cation ikwa iko n'asusu igbo? onye zata ya, i will give the person...

I were obo aka gi na-ekpuchi onu iko dika I na-aku nkwa, O nwere mkpotu O na-eme na-ada pom pom

O buru I na-aku nwanyi nkwa ofuma, uda ya na-ada pom pom.

Ndi igbo wee kpoo ya , ikwa iko

chess guru: Don't know about insanity, but I do know a thing about trade disputes, and I know that its settled by compromise and negotiation.
What assurance have these people given nigerians that all the money will go to there proposed "development".
Is it not chemical engineering dept in uniport that we "heard" NLNG donated millions of dollars to build a new lab.
Boss, in all my 5 years there, its only some rusted ornaments that where showcased in that lab.
Where did the money go?
The reason ASUU seems to be loosing public support is becos of this extra stand they are doing. Like I said earlier, if indeed ASUU are "negotiating" on behalf of nigerian students, someone should point to me what ground they have shifted on so as to bring this thing to an end.
What action have they taken to show they want this strike to end as badly as the government want it to end

A professor emeritus from Loughborough University told me how he came to install a HPLC machine in 1983 and they were not enabled to carry out the job. The machine was left out in the open until it rusted away.

About $450 000 was released to UNIZIK from STEP B and all they can show for it is an open building and a bus. They needed extra funding to complete part of the equipment they quoted for and as I talk now, the equipment is still outside and yet to be installed.

There is so much hypocrisy and politics in this.

chess guru: U don't understand bro.
Assuming there is an industrial action in the US, and all efforts in resolving it fail. To the extent that the POTUS has to intervene himself for 13 hrs to arrive at an agreement, which later turns out not to be good enough because the said union dont trust the commander in chief of the american arm forces.....
In as much as we have no value for ourselves (and amazingly expect other countries..ghana, togo etc to value and respect us)
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E no make sense bro, from an american perspective; its a big insult to the president

Thank you very much. Even in African perspective, it is a big insult.
Can he do that to the Sultan?

texazzpete: You know, I keep hearing you students spout this inane logic and it's always hilarious.

Tell me, you're complaining about the academic institutions remaining shut and disruption to your academic calendar. Do you (in your wildest dreams!) think replacing thousands of experienced lecturers overnight is an easy task? Or a task that can be completed in months? You think it's as easy as putting an advert in Wednesday Guardian and employing the first 1000 graduates that show up?

This was the same brainless idea Tinubu had about sacking over 1000 doctors and replacing them. Eventually the scales fell from his eyes and Fashola went suing for peace.

People are worried stiff about securing long term replacements for some of the brilliant lecturers we have and you're thinking about replacing them en-masse

You said this at the time

texazzpete: Don't be silly. You had ONE bad experience with doctors and now it's 'welcome to Nigerian doctors'?!


For those calling on the state Government to sack all striking doctors, I wonder if they even appreciate the work doctors do? These are not marketers sitting behind counters in banks or teachers that you can replace at will with hungry graduates. You will struggle to replace the current crop of doctors with new recruits. And even the new ones will also be unionized. At the end of the day you will still meet them over a negotiation table.

All these lies from the State government is not helping the situation. Exaggerating the salary the elite doctors (with decades of experience) earn to deceive the masses is not good governance. Lagos state can afford to pay them 100% CONMESS, forget all the FUD being spread by their apologists. The way Fashola is talking, one wonders why we do not see LUTH doctors driving new SUVs and owning choice properties in Lagos

What has changed?

From the leader of the opposition, the archives say

Tinubu urges Fashola to sack striking doctors


Former governor of Lagos State, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, on Wednesday advised his successor, Governor Babatunde Fashola, to sack striking medical doctors.

The Medical Guild, the umbrella body of doctors working in the state’s hospitals, went on strike on February 5 over the refusal of the Fashola administration to implement the Consolidated Medical Salary Scale.

But Tinubu told a gathering of Christian leaders in Lagos that the strike was motivated by unnamed politicians. Tinubu also stated that it would be foolhardy for the state government to yield to the demands of the doctors, noting that instead, it should employ new doctors.

The ex-governor, while speaking on the call by the doctors for the reinstatement of a former the Chairman of the Medical Guild, Dr. Ibrahim Olaifa, recalled that the guild’s leader was employed during his administration based on the recommendation of the then governor of Oyo State, Dr. Lam Adesina. Tinubu said he would not condone Olaifa violating the rules of his employment.

He said, “Those people make me angry, there is no point holding a dialogue with them again. Sack them and recruit other doctors.

“We have provided conducive environment for them to work and yet they are still not satisfied. It is not compulsory you work for the state government; if you are not comfortable, you can go to the Federal Government that pays more or other private establishments.

“We are not going to reinstate him (Olaifa) because the moment you subject the authority given by the constitution to blackmail, you are finished.”

Fashola, on his part, explained that the crisis had lingered not because the state government refused to increase the salary of the doctors, but due to their insistence that the state administration must implement the CONMESS fully.

“The doctors are not complaining about the environment where they work. We have provided a conducive environment, with well equipped facilities for them to work with. But they are insisting that we pay what the Federal Government is paying its own doctors.

“Lagos has more doctors than the federal Government. We have increased the salaries of the doctors to 75 per cent and what that implies is that the most junior doctor in the state today has his salary increased from N110,000 to N170,000 while a consultant now has his salary increased from N300, 000 to N700,000,” he added.

He put his monthly salary as the governor of the state at N850,000 while other members of the State Executive Council were not earning above N500,000. He flayed the doctors’ request for the reinstatement of Olaifa, adding that the situation was being politicised as the doctor in question was presently running for the House of Representatives on the platform of the Peoples Democratic Party in Oyo State.

When contacted on the telephone, the Secretary-General of the Lagos Medical Guild, Dr. Saheed Olajide, said, “The strike has no political undertone. I don’t believe Tinubu said so because he is a respected person.

“He could not have come out to say that. However, we are professional doctors, they are politicians. They should not link the strike with politics.

“What we are asking for is our welfare. There was a mutual agreement, part of which was that our leader (Olaifa) should be reinstated. They agreed to reinstate him before we called off the last strike but they have not done so.

“If the governor is saying Olaifa is a member of the PDP, he should check his records. Olaifa is running under Accord Party in Oyo State, not the PDP. We are not politicians and we are saying is that government should do what is right.”


http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20110224235418

Note, this link is no longer available. Punch has removed it but it is here on nairaland where it was posted initially. May be Tinubu paid them to remove it after all Cameron wanted to remove all his campaign promises from the web. Wonders!

From the APC presidential candidates

It should be recalled that ASUU had battled the Buhari/Idiagbon regime’s policy of retrenchment of workers and freezing of wages; gave support to the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) and the National Association of Resident Doctors (NARD) when they went on their patriotic strike to rescue the deteriorating health services in Nigeria in 1984.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/18517-why-ASUU-is-always-on-strike.html
APC should shut up

Demdem:
Jonathan that keeps talking about meeting with ASUU for 13 hrs with no intention of fulfilling his agreement with them is the one playing politics.
One of the duties of an opposition party is to stress more on the foolishness and stupidity of the ruling party in an effort to discredit them.There is no trade union in this country that is consistent like ASUU.
Kudos to them.

Let me tell you that you are a bit hypocritical in your view of things. What you say depends on who is involved.

Proof:
In may 2012, you made the post below on the first page when Fashola sacked striking doctors. You disappeared and never said any other thing even when the explanation was given.

Demdem: someone should kindly tell me what is the bane of contention here. a balanced view please both from the govt side and doctors. I honestly dont know.

https://www.nairaland.com/932113/lagos-sacks-striking-doctors

On the seventh page, you made the second and the last post on that thread that has to do with sacking of striking workers. This last post shows whose side you are on.

Demdem: I disagree. they arent selfish. many among them are jobless and just needs something to survive.

https://www.nairaland.com/932113/lagos-sacks-striking-doctors/6

You were supporting the governments decision to sack the striking doctors but you were sly in your approach.

It is the same opposition you are talking about that started it. Why didn't you condemn it then? Why are you all over nairaland condemning the present government for doing what you supported just over a year ago and at same time praising the opposition for talking from both sides of their mouths.

I put it to you that you are not sincere my bros

Contesting in a presidential election is like a stimulant and probably an aphrodisiac for Buhari.
He is addicted to it.

If APC prefers Tambuwal to Buhari, then CPC will pull out of the merger.

Demdem:
Dream on bro.
4th is 2 days away.

No it is just tommorrow bro.

Demdem:
Wellsaid. The more reason why it will be extremely foolish for ASUU to go back to classes now. Jonathan isn't sincere.

Unfortunately, they have! See below

Yesterday
Oga How far?
Lecturer: I dey
I hear say dem dey sign If u wan resume lectures. You be Prof ASUU now so u no sign.

Lecturer: How can I?
Lecturer: moves away from crowd, drags me along.

So u no go sign?

Lecturer: in a low voice, I don sign abeg. I no wan make those people know. this job is important to me. Abeg I no wan lose am. In fact make I tell u, this strike don pass me. I surrender. Make the profs dey do am. I go be collateral damage. I no want that.

I don laugh taya ooo

Another high ranking official (an associate prof) who stayed away from exams, in fact a faculty ASUU rep I heard has signed to resume work while some his co-travellers were still thinking they are together.

I can tell you authoritatively that most ASUU members are tired of this treadmill!

Yesterday
Oga How far?
Lecturer: I dey
I hear say dem dey sign If u wan resume lectures. You be Prof ASUU now so u no sign.

Lecturer: How can I?
Lecturer: moves away from crowd, drags me along.

So u no go sign?

Lecturer: in a low voice, I don sign abeg. I no wan make those people know. this job is important to me. Abeg I no wan lose am. In fact make I tell u, this strike don pass me. I surrender. Make the profs dey do am. I go be collateral damage. I no want that.

I don laugh taya ooo

modath: @General house,
Where is everyone? Pls let's finish strong so we don't start the new year with extras we don't need.
Have a bit of flu so didn't workout today, hoping to resume on wed.

Been good.
Missed two days of exercise when I traveled for a week but I made up with at least 6km on two occasions during the travel.


Now I am good too

I forgot to say hello, that's too bad of me.

Hello everyone

Ehen baby, how far? You don gyrate finish come dey ginger us. Class prefect

folahann: How sweet would it have been if southampton avoided defeat. Anyways we're still 4 points clear at top.
They say we can't maintain top spot till December, look at us now. Now they've postponed it to January.
Na so dem go dey postpone our downfall until we reach May

We will be taking ir one month at a time.

OP,

I have been there somehow.
Don't take her back. She just wants you to take her back not that she loves you but because she wants to numb her conscience. Don't go there.