₦airaland Forum

enemyofprogress:
See as a whole appeal court george dey read like a primary school childrens. Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

'George' indeed. What of Philip??

See charcoal calling Kettle black. Smh

Konjiboii:
Be like you dey live for alternate Naija , your Tinubu will be disgraced today, patapata war go break and in my opinion it's about time.

Yes indeed. It's about time.
However, the war will happen in your belly. It'd be btw the watery beans and pap that you ate yesterday. Get ready for a pincer attack on the WC.

Halo22:
What are you saying? Let them open the Irev, then u will see that Obi won over 25 states.

Continue deceiving yourself. Is the IREV locked? I opened it to check my polling unit results and it's correct.

yewit37486:
There is some confusing/conflicting information in the additional details provided. The bolded paragraphs below should have just been omitted and it would be clear to everyone that it only applies to those who previously did not require a visa to visit the UK.

Who will not need an ETA
You will not need an ETA if you have either:

a British or Irish passport
permission to live, work or study in the UK
a visa to enter the UK

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/electronic-travel-authorisation-eta#who-will-need-an-eta

adecz:
Cooked up "majority votes"😕😕😕

So where are the uncooked votes?? Why are the lawyers not presenting them to the court??

obailala:
I'm not giving myself any false hope cos everyone already knows the Nigerian system is desperately corrupt and rigged to favour the highest bidder. So I'm not giving myself any hope here; I'm only just stating what is a clear fact and what the outcome should be had Nigeria been a society that reveres the rule of law. This issue is only being debated cos we're in Nigeria where anything goes...

All the legal examples you gave cited Section 299 of the constitution which happens to be a general provision. But Section 134(2) which mentions "...AND FCT..." is a specific provision specifically guiding presidential elections. I'm not a lawyer but one thing I know for certain is that general provision cannot supersede or override a specific provision.

Even Tinubu's camp knows the 25% provision to be a problem, reason Tinubu had to warn the PEPT that overturning an election just cos of the FCT 25% clause could plunge the nation to anarchy; what Tinubu basically implied is that "Yes the full requirements were not met, but for the sake of avoiding anarchy, let's overlook minor issues." It's up to the courts to tell us whether emotions and subtle threats supersede the constitution.

If it was Obi or Atiku that won everywhere and didnt win in Abuja, and because of that people are asking for a cancellation of the election over personal interpretation of that section, they would have uttered same thing! Doesn't mean a thing. Every body is free to their expression so far it is not inciteful.

You have your interpretation, of the use of the 'and' in that place. I also have mine, which defers from yours. You have not yet convinced me on the superiority of your argument. It is same with the Judges that would rule on the matter. At the end of the day, a vote will be taken and the majority carries the day. Let us wait and see the number of Judges that will be in favour of 'and' meaning Abuja as a standalone entity, and those that will interpret 'and' to mean inclusive of.

Sections of the law are not interpreted in isolation. There is what is called community reading of the law. You cannot enforce a section alone, you have to reinforce it with other sections in addition to referencing previous ruling on same matter and further attempting to draw insights into what the framers of the statutes attempted to achieve with it.

Just wait and see the judgement tomorrow, and you will see that it is exactly this same way it would be explained.

obailala:
Abuja residents aren't the ones who wrote the Nigerian constitution which clearly stated in English language that they be treated as specials. 'And', 'Including', 'inclusive, we cant turn that simple English statement on its head simply because it doesnt favour some sacred cows who 'own' the system; that would set a very dangerous precedence which could rubbish a lot more things in the constitution.

Sometimes I just sit back and wonder, had it been Peter OBI was the one pronounced winner but he couldn't gain 25% in FCT, had it also been OBI was the one with the $460,000 drug kingpin forfeiture case, I cant even imagine how the smart and ferocious APC e-warriors would have shredded him to pieces. But see how you all are now preaching to Nigerians how these things don't matter

Meanwhile, can you kindly point me to the electoral judgment that stated that the FCT is equivalent to states in electoral matters. I'm patiently waiting!

A case law does not necessarily have to be an electoral one. You guys are just giving yourselves false hopes. Historical judgements will not differ from what we'd get tomorrow.

By tomorrow, your eyes will be clear. Please I beg you, don't come here and scream bribery over your illogical interpretation, which has no precedence.

The status of the FCT is set out in section 299 of the Constitution as follows:

“The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation”.


In Bakari v. Ogundipe (2021) 5 NWLR (Pt.1768) 1, the supreme Court held that by virtue of section 299(a) (b) of the Constitution, the provisions of the Constitution shall apply to the FCT, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation.

In Baba-Panya v. President, FRN (2018) 15 NWLR (Pt. 1643) 423, the Court held that the FCT, Abuja is to be treated like a State and it is not superior or inferior to any state in the Federation.

Buhari v Obasanjo (2005) 13 NWLR Pt 941 Pg 1; Okoyade Vs FCDA LPELR – 41123 9CA)

Falana noted that after the Supreme Court handed down the case of Buhari v Obasanjo (supra) on July 1, 2005, the status of the Federal Capital Territory was subjected to judicial interpretation by the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court.

Specifically, both appellate courts have interpreted section 299 of the Constitution, which states that the provisions of the Constitution “shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation”.

Related interpretation.

Okoyode v Federal Capital Development Authority LPELR-41123(CA), is the first case to confirm the FCT’s legal status. In that case, Rowland J.C.A held: “It is therefore doubtless clear that by virtue of Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federation, the Federal Capital Territory is in law a State. In others words, the Federal Capital Territory should be treated as one of the States in the Federal Republic of Nigeria.”

Falana described as illogical, the position being canvassed by some lawyers meant to confer a special status on the FCT in the calculation of the results in a presidential election.

He said such also meant that the votes of the six area councils in the FCT are greater than the votes cast in the states with over 30 or 40 local governments.

He argued that the absurdity of the argument becomes manifest when it is said that a candidate who has majority of lawful votes and 100 per cent of the votes cast in the 36 states of the Federation cannot be declared the winner of the election unless he scores not less than one quarter of the votes cast in the FCT!

“The contention ought to be rejected outright as the drafters of the 1999 Constitution did envisage that the FCT will be placed on a higher pedestal than any of the remaining 36 States of the Federation.

“In view of the clear provision of Section 299 of the Constitution and the relevant judicial authorities the FCT is to be treated as one of the States of the Federation. No more, no less. Accordingly, the FCT is equal but not higher than any of the remaining 36 states”, Falana

Horus:
There is also the possibility of a Military Coup d'Etat according to the result

Joker

Halo22:
There's nothing there to predict, Obi won the election convincingly, but the Nigerian factor will take place with its so-called technicalities.

You keep saying this without showing how?

How??

By which states? By what number of votes?

obailala:
Doing Nothing! i.e. if the Tribunal ignores all the clear points raised and just outrightly dismisses the case, that would set a dangerous precedent.

Without delving too deep, the 25% in Abuja is a clear basis to call for a run-off, the constitution was very clear on that. If the Tribunal ignores that, then it would be setting a very dangerous precedent which would rubbish the integrity of the Judiciary and the constitution.

Abuja residents are not more important than other people in Nigeria. You people are just clutching at straws.

The constitution stated 1/4 votes in 2/3rd states 'and' the FCT. Which can be interpreted as ...inclusive of the FCT. Try and read up mischief rule of statutes of interpretation of laws.

The constitution and judgments in the past has clearly stated that Abuja FCT will be regarded as other states with respect to its jurisdiction.

Atlantis585:
There will be reruns in select number of states. The states will be chosen to give advantage to the crook in Aso Rock.

And that is the reason military coups happen. It’s long overdue in Nigeria.

So you expect rerun to be declared in states without substantial issues? If yes, then you are biased and as such part of the Nigerian problem.

adecz:
If we follow the nasty antecedents of
the judiciary during the APC era, we
expect a favorable ruling for Tinubu and
await the blowback from the public or
the army....


Mark my prophetical words😎😎😎😎

If Tinubu was able to get majority votes during the election, rest assured he also has majority support in the army.

Fiscus105:
He won indeed, but to be fair enough, that 25% requirement in Abuja , wasn't satisfied according to electoral law, thoug the judges will overlooked it.

You cannot interprete the law by yourself as you are not a judge.

Even if you are judge, the opinion will still be your own and it will be subjected to a majority decision to carry the day if you are juror in say, the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court

adioolayi:
Wetin be this

Sane Nigerians know that INEC messup the electioneering processes as they failed to keep to their own rules... especially on transmission of presidential election results to IREV in real time as promised by them.

The questions now bothers on if petitioners have been able to convince the Judges that these lapses from INEC is so significant that it has cost their client heavily and it's the reason their client lose the election.


Well, from what I read during trials...I don't think the petitioners have been able to convince me, not to talk about the Judges.

Tinubu wins this. Not about sentiments or emotions

Thank you for this matured and sensible submission

sirchim:
And what happened to the promised transmission of our results in real time? Mek una dey fear God abeg, ba ku da gaskiya, walahi!

Make you sef dey fear God. So the fact that electronic transmission did not happen automatically means that the results were changed??

If indeed results were changed, why has anybody been unable to produce evidence of manipulated results save only for that of Rivers state??

Has anybody been able to present any alternative result that will markedly influence the outcome of the election??

Interestingly, I didn't even vote for the APC, but I just detest emotionally laden arguments without proper facts.

All the other parties have agents in virtually all the polling units in Nigeria. No case has been presented in courts based on irrefutable manipulated numbers. Everybody is just dancing around.

I also cried wolf after the election did not favour my candidate and was hoping the courts remedy the situation. But I calmed down after checking the 5 polling units surrounding my area that I wrote down the results personally. I checked online on the IREV and the polling unit results I took corresponds to what was uploaded online.

Have you checked yours and those around you?? Was there a difference? If you add all the polling unit results together to get that of the ward? Was there a difference with what was declared?? If you add all the ward results together to get that of the local government, did you observe any significant difference with what was declared? And if you now go further to add all the local government results together to get that of the state, was the outcome different from what was declared by INEC? This is how to dwell on facts. Not just shouting about electronic transfer without any facts as to the origin of manipulation. Even the so called electronic transmission is the easiest to manipulate by hackers.

What I expected to see at the tribunal are evidences to show polling unit results were manipulated at ward collation level/local govt level and state collation with proper facts and figures.

But what we had was just a merry-go-round case based on technicalities and seeking disqualification. Pure waste of intellect.

sirchim:
If THIEFNIBU, and him ZOMBIES, up till now, can't really break it down for me to understand, how some one that collected WOTO WOTO home and away, Lagos and Abuja, including his own state of origin, won the election, then I won't take the tribunal serious.🤔

Are the places you mentioned the only places where the election was conducted?

Wainey:
Just say RIP and move on abeg.
U go explain tire.

Nigerians are not known to be safety conscious
No be still in this same Nigeria that people build shops under high tensions?

There's an hotel swimming pool under high tension in Surulere, Rita Lori hotel.

HRMK:
am i lying?that is the main question!northerners especially the muslims believe they own this country!you can see what is presently going on in kwara!!

You are contributing to the aura of superiority with this your statement. Stop saying such things. Its hyping them.

HRMK:
ONLY THE NORTHERNER COULD FREELY DO THIS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY!

Ttipsy:
you voted for tinubu ! Why are you in denying that?? Lol

Hypocrite

I didnt vote for Tinubu, even if I did, I will stand by it, it is my right, not your fecking business. I can vote for anybody I choose. You are very silly for calling me an hypocrite over what you are obviously not in the know. It clearly demonstrates your level of intelligence.

Ttipsy:
why is his certificate being questioned??
Anybody can be president still doesn’t change anything

You can’t be elected in a questionable circumstances and expect pple to be happy !
Everybody can’t be so daft you know? Fvck off

You are obviously the daft one. So for the mere fact that a question was raised makes it a forged one?

Everyone cannot be happy. There's never a choice that is 100% satisfactory to everybody. I didnt even vote Tinubu. But it is senselessness to be throwing tantrums all over the place and doing the ridiculous because the winner is not your preference.

Ttipsy:
Some pple r happy and support a president with forged certificate

Lol

So bad of a country

How do you know the certificate is forged? You people will just be saying your own speculations as a fact. Are you the one that issued him the original certificate??

And that is the simple reason you find it difficult to accept alternative outcomes even in the face of glaring evidence.

NotProphet:
claiming doesnt prove anything.
anybody can say yes or no to anything.
let them present his documents.
atiku is not asking them to claim. he is asking them to provide his documents to backup their claims

Which documents? All this is just a circus show.

Nigerians are too clownish. We went this same route with Buhari disturbing the the US military sch he went and the UK all for nought. Even WAEC that was the examiner came out to declare in favour of Buhari, but people were still hitting their head against the wall because the fact does not align with their expectations.

This same idiocy is playing out. The sch said he graduated from their sch. His classmate did a video to declare they finished from the school together. We saw a year book with pictures of both of them present there.

Which other documents are you people looking for? You write to an institution that is decades old to enquire if a person actually graduated from their school and they answered in the affirmative. For any reasonable enquiry, it all should stop after getting official confirmation from the institution.

This same thing is done by employers and other higher institutions from all over the world. A simple corresponden from the institution or agency puts all doubts to rest. But here in Naija, we must overdo because of desperation.

There's seem to be a spirit of mob/herd mentality in Naija that do not make them accept alternative facts to what they want to hear.

Now you want to put the institution on trial, querying their admission process, etc. The entitlement mentality is unbelievable.

NotProphet:
until CSU comes clean on this matter, we will assumed whatever we think is true.

let dem come out clean and save Nigeria from this mess.
if Tinubu truly went to the school, present his documents to atiku lawyers. if he didnt go to the school, come out and clear ur name.
its very simple.
when mmesona was claiming she got the highest score in jamb. immediately jamb came out to refute it, shey the matter die natural dead?
let CSU do the same thing, so we all can turn our focus to the judiciary
one man with multiple baggages

But they have done so. I saw their letter. Also, in the court in the US they declared he graduated from the school in their response.

NotProphet:
thank Obidients
govt will never take us for granted again.
Nigeria is everyone's project whether north, or south. we all must fight for a better country.
this brainless agbadorians will come to later appreciate the fight we did
keep the fire up
if this man nor respond to us well, we will take it to POTUS
that university must tell us the truth about Tinubu

The University's truth or your own desired truth?

Bigkoko:
That seat go hot for Asiwaju...... Era of technicalities rule by some old stupid judge is gone in Nigeria!

But this ruling you guys are after is based on technicalities na. Not actual results on the field.

SyrusdeHansome:
Lemme be arrogant 4 once. This shows how stupid u are to equate graduation frm the university 20 yrs ago to the necessary experience required to direct a ministry in a complex country like Nigeria. Maybe idiots like u think that when i talk abt experience i'm referring to the age or academic attainment of an individual. Go nd sit down jarre!

What's the big deal in managing a Ministry in Nigeria. All the ministers we've been having till date, what is special about them, what real impact have they made. Oga abeg chill.

HRMK:
ONLY THE NORTHERNER COULD FREELY DO THIS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY!

Any small thing, Northerner this, northerner that. smh

otomatic:
I added the second sentence to even make my point clearer.
If you graduated below 30 and then come back at 40 for exemption, I think you deserve it. Some people under 30 have gotten exemptions for whatever reason.

What you think does not guide NYSC but the application of the law. Only those who at the time of graduation are above 30 years are issued exemption.

The other people qualified for exemption are explicitly captured in the NYSC act. Try and be open to learning.

otomatic:
I disagree. She graduated before 30. Then wants to mobilise when she is past 30. NYSC will reject such mobilisation.
One must be below 30 to mobilise.

Either you disagree or agree does not change the facts of the matter. This current lady in question was mobilized by NYSC, so many people in this circumstance have been mobilized in the past.

A person has even stated it here on this thread that he observed some very old people in NYSC camp.

wildernessVoice:
Hope she'll be paid NYSC allawee of 33k and not ministerial remuneration.

If you are serving at a company, will the company not pay you?

All she needs to do now is to apply for redeployment to her Ministry.

She'd be a youth corper there and also their Minister hilarious

tollyboy5:
What do you mean by weak institution? is she not also serving her fatherland? na by force to teach for primary school to show you served your father's land.

People with closed mind believe everyone must suffer like them

crackhouse:
So NYSC is not mandatory but this same NYSC is the same reason former minister of finance Kemi Adeosun was removed from office because they said she did not do her NYSC...and now it's no longer a requirement.

She was harassed out of office because she presented a fake NYSC exemption certificate. Not because she did not serve.

Forgery is a criminal offence in Nigeria.