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Ndi ocha ji agumakwukwo were wuchie na be anyi. Kedu uru ka nke a?. Ugbu a, otutu ndi Igb amarala ka e si agu na ka e si ede. Mana tupu ndi ocha abia, o dighi onye maara ede aha ya.

PointB: Thank you Odunnu, Wesley80 and Ujchief for nominating me. I feel humbled already. But I believe we know how things works here. Folks like us will always be made to scale further huddles. Politics section is not without it's intrigues and conspiracies. I wont dwell further on this for now.

But I believe at this time there are far better people to take the honour of politics sections. I know a man deviod

Who are you nominating?.

Jarus: Ok. I concede. I'm canceling my nomination.

Thanks and may Allah bless you.

@GenBuhari, an anaesthetic consultant and a good friend of mine here in The U.K was one of the medics who carried out advanced basic life support on Gen Abacha when he collapsed.
When cardiopulmonary resuscitation failed, the General's pockets were searched and what was found out I will not tell you here.
How can I get intouch with you as am ready to organise a discussion between the medic, moi and you?.

Jarus: I'm not aware of that rule sir.

Not a rule yet but for proper handling of the process, forbid the mods from nominating or voting anyone.

Mustay: ^^^ We all knew that anyway. Players do have people they like working with. Mikel would not forget AVB in a hurry so this is where I don't agree with the result-oriented approach at the expense of psychology like they're paperbags and not humans.




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Wondering why JT has a number of pics here. . .

It was said players feigned injuries because of her

I thought E.C has left Chelsea, but I saw her on the Chelsea bench this noon. Who is spreading falsehood here?.

The most important aspect of our Igbo laws is the belief in the santity of life. Ndigbo believes that life belongs to God and no one should take it.
None of the laws in any part of Igboland stipulates death as a punitive measure if you offend the law (daa iwu obodo).

Jarus: We only need the polls for voting which starts on Dec 16. We are hoping Seun would have helped us fixed the polls before then.we have contacted him.

No, it should be open ballot for transparency.

UncleJJ: Bros cool down, even yoruba support their bros - whether or whether not , he performs well.

Fashola and Jonathan are the same, so neither of them can return in a free and fair election.

You cant fight for Jonathan, my dear ibo minions cos this is a battle for the gods. He knows, how he became president - (heavy rigging in northern states).

And, he (Jona) is doing all he can to pull this one off again. Go out and vote ur bom boms off, the man that will win must be a professional rigger with international political influence. Remember, the golden rule - you cant rig where your not popular. You cant rig if you dont have men who are more powerful to accept you. Why you think Jona is kissing Mu-Barack Obama's a.s.s

Jona has a very ugly face - home and abroad. Whomever, the gods want to kill they first make you dumb.

Who is on Jona's team, that had not worked for IBB, Abdulsalam or Atiku in the past.

My dear ibo brothers and sisters, since you said Jonathan is an ibo man, the ibo people have also run their term in Aso rock.

Whats even more worse, OBJ used Jonathan was used to break an agreement to revenge (deny) Atiku the presidency. Now, rumors have it - they have made up.

Atiku is a superstar rigger - a true son of the northern "shadow men" politics . Jona needs all the weapons he can get, we have already seen that he is siphoning as much cash as he can from all avenue's - fuel deregulation is a scam, accept it or not.

And, since Jona's has damaged the zoning policy - the north can rule for 1 billion years, the west can rule for 1 billion years and the east can rule for 1 billion years, no wahala.

I personally do not support Jonathan, he has done nothing for my country. We can use the current us president for an example - as political i deduce both of them r presidents from similar circumstances.

Obama and Jonathan are both patsy's but Obama made the best of it - Jona could not do anything with his tenure because, he is not a politician. And, we can not allow him to use Nigeria as a learning board.

Let, Jonathan partake in elections, if he can survive the primaries but no man should complain if a northerner or westerner wins.

Jonathan has had his chance - fair is fair. Atleast, the person we go come go return my N64/lit

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UncleJJ: Bros cool down, even yoruba support their bros - whether or whether not , he performs well.

Fashola and Jonathan are the same, so neither of them can return in a free and fair election.

You cant fight for Jonathan, my dear ibo minions cos this is a battle for the gods. He knows, how he became president - (heavy rigging in northern states).

And, he (Jona) is doing all he can to pull this one off again. Go out and vote ur bom boms off, the man that will win must be a professional rigger with international political influence. Remember, the golden rule - you cant rig where your not popular. You cant rig if you dont have men who are more powerful to accept you. Why you think Jona is kissing Mu-Barack Obama's a.s.s

Jona has a very ugly face - home and abroad. Whomever, the gods want to kill they first make you dumb.

Who is on Jona's team, that had not worked for IBB, Abdulsalam or Atiku in the past.

My dear ibo brothers and sisters, since you said Jonathan is an ibo man, the ibo people have also run their term in Aso rock.

Whats even more worse, OBJ used Jonathan was used to break an agreement to revenge (deny) Atiku the presidency. Now, rumors have it - they have made up.

Atiku is a superstar rigger - a true son of the northern "shadow men" politics . Jona needs all the weapons he can get, we have already seen that he is siphoning as much cash as he can from all avenue's - fuel deregulation is a scam, accept it or not.

And, since Jona's has damaged the zoning policy - the north can rule for 1 billion years, the west can rule for 1 billion years and the east can rule for 1 billion years, no wahala.

I personally do not support Jonathan, he has done nothing for my country. We can use the current us president for an example - as political i deduce both of them r presidents from similar circumstances.

Obama and Jonathan are both patsy's but Obama made the best of it - Jona could not do anything with his tenure because, he is not a politician. And, we can not allow him to use Nigeria as a learning board.

Let, Jonathan partake in elections, if he can survive the primaries but no man should complain if a northerner or westerner wins.

Jonathan has had his chance - fair is fair. Atleast, the person we go come go return my N64/lit

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UncleJJ: Bros cool down, even yoruba support their bros - whether or whether not , he performs well.

Fashola and Jonathan are the same, so neither of them can return in a free and fair election.

You cant fight for Jonathan, my dear ibo minions cos this is a battle for the gods. He knows, how he became president - (heavy rigging in northern states).

And, he (Jona) is doing all he can to pull this one off again. Go out and vote ur bom boms off, the man that will win must be a professional rigger with international political influence. Remember, the golden rule - you cant rig where your not popular. You cant rig if you dont have men who are more powerful to accept you. Why you think Jona is kissing Mu-Barack Obama's a.s.s

Jona has a very ugly face - home and abroad. Whomever, the gods want to kill they first make you dumb.

Who is on Jona's team, that had not worked for IBB, Abdulsalam or Atiku in the past.

My dear ibo brothers and sisters, since you said Jonathan is an ibo man, the ibo people have also run their term in Aso rock.

Whats even more worse, OBJ used Jonathan was used to break an agreement to revenge (deny) Atiku the presidency. Now, rumors have it - they have made up.

Atiku is a superstar rigger - a true son of the northern "shadow men" politics . Jona needs all the weapons he can get, we have already seen that he is siphoning as much cash as he can from all avenue's - fuel deregulation is a scam, accept it or not.

And, since Jona's has damaged the zoning policy - the north can rule for 1 billion years, the west can rule for 1 billion years and the east can rule for 1 billion years, no wahala.

I personally do not support Jonathan, he has done nothing for my country. We can use the current us president for an example - as political i deduce both of them r presidents from similar circumstances.

Obama and Jonathan are both patsy's but Obama made the best of it - Jona could not do anything with his tenure because, he is not a politician. And, we can not allow him to use Nigeria as a learning board.

Let, Jonathan partake in elections, if he can survive the primaries but no man should complain if a northerner or westerner wins.

Jonathan has had his chance - fair is fair. Atleast, the person we go come go return my N64/lit

Whether he is Igbo or not, but he is not from the south east. Politics now revolves around geo-political zones and not on ethnicities.

gidiMonsta: Yeah, just like he'll become a Igbo god if he decides to rig in a Igbo president.

but they are not calling him gorilla.

Photographs please if there is any?.

Afam4eva

dayokanu: If you were Sterlings adviser would you advise him to go to Chelsea?

On the wings Chelsea has Mata, Hazard, Sturridge, Marin as options these are players that are quite young themselves. The oldest of these might be 24. So still has another 6yrs to play. That was the same reason Marko Reus chose Dortmund over Bayern.

Vs Sterling at Liverpool where he is almost guaranteed a shirt at his young age, No pressure, he can play with his agemates (Suso, Wisdom, Borini etc), The coach Brendan Rodgers who is stable and has a project going on. Moreover Sterling is not in a hurry to win trophies

The only club that would make sense for him is Arsenal cos of a similar structure.

Sterling would go to Chelsea and be another SWP weighed down by the signing fee and pressure

You've said it all, nice one.

Katsumoto: Nothing wrong with moving the capital to the geographical centre but its implementation and the reasons behind it were wrong.

It's true, but it should have been Suleija or Lokoja instead of a barren land called Abuja.

How about the houses in Lagos?. Who got them?.

The first Nigerian indigenous university established in Nsukka in 1960.

The first Nigerian indigenous V.C was Prof Kenneth Dike.

The first Nigerian indigenous literature, Omenuko written by Pita Nwanna and published in 1933.

@ no 19, Usman dan Fodio did not introduce islam in Northern Nigeria. Islam was already rooted in the north even before the birth of Fodio. However, well done bro.

Abagworo: Has anyone ever asked why it is only among Igbos that someone that speaks Igbo language as his 1st and only language denies affinity to the greater Igbo? Was it always like this? Granted the Europeans aided in creation of the Igbo identity( but it is also same across Nigeria and Africa) why then is the case of Igbo different? Why is Agbotaen et al trying their best to dis-link the kinship they share with other Igbos. Why are they trying so much to lean on the Benin side of their history rather than accepting the truth even as told by the Obi?

The answer is simple. The failed coup of 1966 which was tagged Igbo coup had a multiplier effect on the feeling of other Nigerians towards Igbos and the resultant war and the war propaganda worsened it. The Igbos lost the trust other Nigerians had for them and anybody that had the option of dual ethnicity would hurriedly drop the Igbo part and some went as far as modifying their languages.

The other question is "would denying your Igbo kinship help you gain acceptance?". IMHO, it can only give a temporary relief from the immediate situation but will hunt you in the long run. For example here on Nairaland, a lot of non-Igbos believe Agbotaen has a genuine case without knowing what is involved. Agbotaen would feel that his campaign of distinct ethnicity had met success among non-Igbos but realized it hit the rock when some (Igbo)Ikas were caught as the kidnappers of Osun speaker's wife. Most non-Igbos immediately accused Igbos of bringing kidnapping to SW without knowing fully well that it is the same (Igbo) Ikas that they had all these while lent Agbotaen support of distinctness.

My advice to the Igbos in Delta State is to think twice and never believe that sudden change in ethnicity will make all those other Nigerians view them differently. It is still on record that most of the Igbo officers that were involved in the 1966 coup were from present Delta State. It is also as a result of the coup that the polgrom against all Igbos happened and the resultant Biafran war as well.

Seconded.
When Hausa muslims go on rampage against Ndigbo, Ikas will not be spared. Any attempt to make Ika an ethnic group is a waste of time.

honeychild: Hausa. It is †ђξ lingua franca of †ђξ entire north and middle belt. And anyone who lives in †ђξ North fir any lenght of time speaks it.

It is the lingua franca of far north and not the entire north.

In the North Hausa. In the east Igbo and in the west Yoruba.
@The poster, Igbo is spoken outside Igboland e.g in some parts of Rivers state (Opobo, Bonny, Buguma, Okrika etc). Non Igbo communities in Cross River and Benue state speak Igbo because of its nearness to Igboland.

dayokanu: You love your Igbo brothers but are also proud of a statement that says "sons of Awo are vagabonds in their own state"

You see why its easy to see through you. Everyone knows who you are Andre uweh drop this monicker and pick another one.

Mr I am yoruba

I am Igbo while Tomakint is yoruba, we are not same. Poor boy, why are you surprised to see a Yoruba person who is not bigoted like you lots?.
Buy a life mr Bundesliga.

dayokanu: Bundesliga

A league of only 18 teams. They really need to expand.

Nigeria: Heartland f.c Owerri.
Premiership: Chelsea fc.
Europe: Ajax
South America. Vasco da gama.
Nat team: Nigeria, England and Holland.

Is there any reason why Chelsea cannot hire Rafa Benitez to work on Torres?. I don't mean hiring him as our manager but a manager with a sole purpose of getting the best out of Torres.
Remember, Torres played his best footie in England under him.

agbotaen: 1. from what you wrote it is quite clear that the person that wrote that article is from igbodo kingdom,and in that particular eastern axis of ika land their language is both ika an aniocha ,due to their nearness to that area and even the ika spoken there has been adultrated ,i have told you severally that ika has three basic types or dialects the central ika, western ika and eastern ika .variations and we know all the influences that made the language so ,
2. out of the 11 kingdoms that make up ika land in delta and some in edo state ,i will tell you the variants spoken by-
agbor ,owa, idumuesah, abavo,and uteokpu,and others, particularly i am an owa man , and agbor is the largest and most populous ika kingdom, followed by owa kingdom. agbor is headquarters for ika south ,while owa is headquarters for ika north east.
3. most of those names you listed are not ika names , but igbo/aniocha names which many ika people out of influence of christianity or education or influence from our neigbouring towns or outright ignorance bear ,that is why i have undertaken to write a book called 500 ika names and english meanings. i will give you a list of the names.
4. ika people prior to the time the british came believed and called God osenobue or oselobue , and we believed that the guardian spirit was called ehi ,and as against what igbos called chi , and the word chukwu was not known as GOD IN IKA.but when the british used aniocha and igbo teachers from onitcha to teach our people then they brought the word chukwu, and chi into ika language.
5. let me give you a few real ika names and their meaning , as true knowledge will destroy ignorance and propaganda
1. ehioma- god is good
2. ehiedu- god is leading me
3. ikpanminose- god i thank you.
4. ehiabor- gods blessing or blessing of god.
5. ukpeose- light of god
6. ighogho- happiness
7. ighoghose- happiness of god
8. ernumuh- gold
9. otsun- staff of honour
10. ebonka- family is greatest
11. ogiso- king
12. ogisoka- king is greatest
13. gbenoba- iseek refuge in the king
14. igbenose- i seek refuge in god
15. agbedion- we do not kill our elders
16. agbobu- we do not kill a native doctor
17. omiken- mercy
18. omiken ose- gods mercy
19. oyo- joy
20. ehichuya- god removed suffering
21. ehiyemofe- god gave me freely
22. isere- a person born outside the house
23. ogbe- family
24. ogbebor- may my family be blessed
25. ogbekile- may my family not fall
26. ebonma- it is the family that knows
27. agbonma-th is the family that knows
28. ikhu-refuge
29. ikhuose- refuge from good
30. uwaya -child born on the road
31. usifo- may my fame not dissappear,this is from the ika sentence usi me efori ile
32. iyetor- solid foundation
33. ukpehi- light of god
34. ifonron- brithness
35. jazunehi- who has died and come back
36. abiemuwe- my father has come back again
37. okpohoka- woman is greatest
38. okpohose- woman of god
39. okpohoma- woman of knowledge
40. okenyenehike- man is great
41. aduaran- giant amongst men
42. origueku- talking in the midst of multitude
43. efereku- do not mid gossips
44. ikenehi- power of god
45. mgbejume- one man cannot form a quorum
46. ehiobu- god of the priest or god is priest
47. ojobu- chief priest
48. idigun- as strong as iron
49. asomuya- i reject suffereing
50. uyamasi- suffering is not good
51. ihianelehi- man is not god
52. obuseh- priest of god
53. ogodonamasi- evil is not good.
54. eghowuosihian- money is friend of all
55. obiwonosi- the king has friend
56. osiegbu- friendship will not kill
57. erere- profit
58. erereose- profit from god
59. osewuedionma- god is senior
60. oseri- god exist or lives
61. ehiri- god exists
62. ikponfiasuya- the dustbin does not reject suffering
63. ebonkokomen- the family has gathered
64. ozegbe- good things/blessings
65. orokotor- good things .
66. ehimeninomiken- god has shown me mercy
67. egba- protection
68. ekika- shinning and of multi-colours
70. owabor- blessings of owa kingdom
71. utebor- blessings of ute kingdom
72. okunbor- blessings like that of the ocean
73. efeose but shortened as efose- wealth of god
74. eseose called esose- godly sacrifice
75. ewere- luck or lucky
80 - isioma- luck or lucky
81. isiwe- my head brings wealth.
82. isitor- my head brings longlife
83. ehigiator- long life comes from god
84. noboi- it will be well with you/me
85. eghoahuaza- money does not ring a bell
86.eghoyibo- white mans money
87. agbonebo- in the white mans generation or civilization.
89. emuaghuihian- laughter does not kill
90. obaigbena- the king will not kill this.
91- eseagbuihian- sacrifice does not kill
92. okpanose- receptacle of god
93. ojebor- may you be blessed like a king
94. ubidon- tiger
95. eduke- lion hearted.
96. udumen- lion hearted
97. ebonne- mothers lineage is great
98. adugan- proudly
99. ujehose- dance of god
100.jose- who can hold god
101. erikunmeh- patience
102. okpohowuku- woman is a good inheritance.

and so many hundreds of ika names not written hear , ika people name their children according to events , and incidents,we have many names we dont need to go aborrowing when we have good names , as some of the names many ika people bear today does not have any bearing with our tradition and culture

This is the third time you have pasted the same junk here. I wonder if others are not bored by the same crap you post all the time. Very shameful.

agbotaen: 1. my motive is simply to teach many people that no ethnic group existed in nigeria 200 years ago and to let people know that ika is an ethnic group created just like others.and this major creation took a solid stance in 1930 ,by the letters our fathers wrote to the british when benin claimed that ika was part of benin.our fathers said ika is not part of any known ethnic group in nigeria,and that ika is a seperate ethnicity.
i wonder in 2012 , how ika has become any other group in nigeria?

To the best of my knowledge, the thread is about Anioma and not Ika. There is an Ika thread already, you might take your case to that thread.
Secondly, all the sermon you preach here are so full of falsehood and you hardly have any proof to back up your claims. Binis hardly regard Ishan as Bini and how much more an Igbo speaking people. Dude, you are not doing the Ika people any good but disgrace to them.

ChinenyeN: "Clans", "ethnic group". The problem with your understanding, Andre, is that you talk as if Europeans didn't deliver these concepts to us. You are telling me to use my brain, but I will implore you to be objective in using yours. You cannot rightly apply 21st century worldview in an attempt to understand something that occurred in the 16th and 17th centuries. That is foolishness, to be honest.

Just stop telling yourself lies, and be honest about the Igbo situation. In the 16th and 17th century, there was no ethnic oneness. Communities considered themselves distinct, both politically, socially and even in their identities. The fact that Ugiri and Amaraku were recorded only goes to show how the people identified, and there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise. The only way you would have an actual case is if these people self-identified as "Igbo" to the Eurpeans, but clearly we do not see that. No home-grown "Igbo" ethnic consciousness existed. So, excuse the good people of the 16th and 17th centuries for ethnically identifying as Etche, Ugiri, Amaraku, Ngwa, etc. instead of as "Igbo". Or if you would prefer, go back in time and tell them that they are wrong in not identifying their "ethnic group" and instead identifying their "clans" and "villages". Then see if they will see sense in what comes out of your mouth.

Honestly, I will never understand why some of you will try so hard to draw up an unsubstantiated image of Igbo ethnic history. It is as if you can't be satisfied with creating a better Igbo today, unless you first create your ideal Igbo of yester-century.

Your argument here is not neccessary. It is only an imbe-cile will believe that what the slave masters recorded for the slaves were their ethniciies instead of villages or clans.
The slaves whether they saw each other as Igbo or not is not my business but only a toddler will believe that the record held was that of ethnic groups. For example that Amaraku and Ugiri villages who are descended from one father are different ethnic groups.
Someone wants me to believe that within Igboland, there were nearly 70 ethnic groups before colonialism. Utter nonsense and stupidity at its highest.

ChinenyeN: What kind of comment is this? Are you serious? I don't get why you try so hard to create a false impression of "Igbo ethnic history". Igbo ethnic history begins with slaves captured, sold and transported in the 16th and 17th centuries, escalates during post-colonialism and then is finally grounded in Biafra. End of story.

Do not pretend as if you didn't understand what I wrote. Do you think that the slave masters were interested in recording over 65 clans in Igboland as ethnic groups.
Did the slave masters say that they bought slaves from over 65 ethnic groups in eastern hinterland?.
I pepeat once again, that what was recored was their clans and villages and not ethnic groups, never. Or you want to tell me that a slave from Ugiri doesn't know that another slave from Amaraku belong to the same ethnic group as him/her?. Amaraku is just 3 miles from Ugiri and within Mbano.
So you mean to tell me that Amaraku and Ugiri are different ethnic groups.
Boy,Use your God given brain. Whatever time the Igbo ethnic group was formed is not my worry here but to claim that the slaves claimed that their ethnic groups were Ugiri, Amaraku, etc as ethnic groups instead or clans is incredible.