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[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=687855.msg8499721#msg8499721 date=1307797818]Probably got eaten by your tribesmen many moons ago. . . .

We know how u niggaz roll.[/quote]Poor boy, you are not intelligent enough for this sort of thread, as a result, do not derail.

Beaf is a winner.
He said that GEJ will beat Atiku hands down and it came to pass.
He also said that Buhari will be defeated by GEJ AND IT HAPPENED AS HE PREDICTED.
Envy him at your own peril.

Ezeagu, keep it coming.
Well done sir.

I must confess, something is wrong here. Colonialism is long gone and we have to do away with colonialism. This idea of people in Riverine areas with double foreign names or foreign last names has to end. In Igboland, all this our first names that are foreign are shameful.
I feel ashamed of people caling me Andrew at work or when I was in school.
During my undergraduate years at Unibadan, about 12 of 15 of us of Igbo origin had English first names while the Yorubas, apart from one William, the rest had Yoruba surnames.
Even at the NATIONAL TEAM, check out those who come from Igboland
Christian Chukwu
Stephen Keshi.
Sunday Oliseh,Henry Nwosu, Alloy Agu, Alloy Atuegbu, David Adiele.
Ben Iroha
Emmanuel Amuneke
Augustine Okocha
Compare it to Segun Odegbami, Folorunsho Okenla, Tunde Bamidele, Ademola Adesina, Adeolu Adekola etc.
Even lately, we have Michael Obi, Victor Nsofor, Victor Anichebe, John Utaka compared to Taye Taiwo, Dele Adeleye, Sey Olofinjana, Ayo Makinwa, etc.
This nonsense really has to stop in Igboland as I thank God my son does not have any foreign name.

[quote author=EzeUche! link=topic=687855.msg8496910#msg8496910 date=1307749398]That is the truth! Yorubas love their names. No matter how long they are. They will have a Yoruba first name and a surname.

How many Igbos do we see with Christian first names? There are many, even though our names have religious meanings.[/quote]Well said Uchenna. I wish our Igbo brethren will emulate them in this aspect. My son has got no English or foreign name. His first name, middle and last names are in Igbo. I hope you and my other younger brothers who are not married will not make this mistake of handing our children foreign names.

ezeagu:
I'd struggle to find an Igbo man named 'Alfonsus, Alloysius, Longinus, Donatus, Adolphus, Reginald', just like finding a Yoruba man by those names. Unlike Yoruba, I would struggle finding an Igbo man whose surname is Wellignton.

But you will not struggle to find Pini Jackson, Sandra Damasus, Teco Benson, Rita Dominic etc.
Ezeagu believe me, Yorubas are more at home with their native names.
While I was in classroom with the Yorubas in Yorubaland, almost all their first and last names where in Yoruba. Even at my work place at the moment, none of the Yoruba guys there are bearing foreign names.

ezeagu:
Please reomve Yar'Adua's name. Not to insult him, but he wasn't exactly the center of attention in those meetings he attended with his pyjamas.

I still disagree with you on the Yoruba retaining their native names the most, at least among the middle class and up.

My secondary as well as university education were in Yorubaland. I also had my Youth service in Yorubaland. This afforded me with the opportunity know their name patterns.
In Igboland, we do retain our surnames but tot compared to the Yorubas. How about our Igbo first names as compared to Yoruba first names.
Have you ever seen a Yorubaman called Alfonsus, Alloysius, Longinus, Donatus, Adolphus, Reginald etc.
It is an established fact that Yorubas bear their cultural names more than any group in Nigeria.

psykoV:
Hey,
THE DAY OUR "CULTURE" BEGINS TO REPRESENT US ALL & NOT JUST THE FEW "nomenklatura"S AMONGST US, THEN I WE CAN START TALKING AND TAKING IN "REFLECTIONS".
I LIVE IN NIGERIA MATE, & I LIVE DAILY WITH THE STRUGGLE OF JUST HOLDING THE SHREDS OF MY HOPES, DREAMS & AMBITIONS TOGETHER IN A COUNTRY THAT JUST DOESN'T GIVE A be intimate with ABOUT THE COMMON MAN. AND I'M SURE SEVERAL MILLION NIGERIANS AGREE WITH ME.

I'M PLEASED THAT YOU FIND YOURSELF AT ONE WITH 9JA BUT HEY, WE ALL CAN'T BE YOU.

SAID MY PIECE. OUT.

This crap above is irrelevant to the thread. Moreover, it is against forum rules to write in capital letters.

ezeagu:
Andre Uweh I'm surprised, I've heard about the grass being greener on the other side, but I wouldn't expect someone like you to say such an incorrect thing about Nigeria. The same Yoruba people with names like Crowther, George and Wellington?

Yea, only two percent of the Yorubas still retain those colonial names. They are found mostly in Lagos where the recaptives settled.
But believe me, amongst all the ethnic groups in Nigeria, Yorubas bear their cultural names more than any group. Hausas and Ijaws are the worst.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=687855.msg8496701#msg8496701 date=1307746427]why can't he use Ebelechukwu Azikwe, is it not part of his name

and moreover that is more nigerian than jonathan,[/quote][quote author=dem_people link=topic=687855.msg8496677#msg8496677 date=1307746121]The day Africans will collectively see the immense beauty in their culture, is the day of their mental liberation. If I were GEJ, I would've changed my names (Goodluck & Jonathan) to Ijaw names but I guess such people really don't have the intelligence to think critically about such things.

Personally, I don't have any other names except Igbo. I very much feel like a walking reflection of my culture.

And yes, just like Andre Uweh wrote, I also admire the yorubas for mostly sticking to their ethnic names. I love it when I see a full Nigerian name devoid of western or arab influence.[/quote]Well said, brothers.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=687855.msg8496646#msg8496646 date=1307745752]Ebelechukwu Azikwe are his other names, maybe he should have used those ones [/quote]Well said.

One of the reasons I like the Yoruba's is because they cherish their surnames so much. It will be rare to find a Yoruba man with a foreign surname.Perhaps only 2% of them.
But go to Bayelsa and Rivers states, it is voluminous.

This is why I have always clamoured for Nigerians to shun foreign surnames. All this foreign names are so rife in that region our president hails from.
Now whites are making fun of our president's name. What a shame.

PStylish:
@All
All the Yorubas(Desola,Katsumoto,Ileke Idi, Eko Ile etc) supporting Tinubu and the ACN are fake. Very fake. They

are just consoling/deceiving themselves.

The loss of the speakership is a terrible loss to the average non-ACN SWesterner. Everyone in my family felt sad at

the emergence of Tambuwal but they were quick to console themselves with statements like "what did the SW gain

when they had the speakership position", "Tambuwal is ACN" e.t.c but the grief in their face was very visible.

For me, I was apprehensive and anxious to hear the news and when it finally came, I was cursing Tinubu and the

ACN from the bottom of my heart.I could not sleep overnight.I could see Tinubu's selfish interest written all over the

decision to support Tambuwal. Truth is, the average SWesterner is sad and very unhappy with Tinubu's

behaviour.Even some ACN members will be furious with him.

I dont know how a female PDP speaker would have affected the SW ACN.Didnt Dimeji Bankole, a sitting PDP

speaker lose his re-election bid to an unknown ACN candidate in a free and fair election despite the financial

resources at his disposal?

Abike Dabiri, ACN rep, tried to get to Tinubu's support for the PDP lady.This showed a Yoruba consensus to have a

representative at the centre especially as Obasanjo ensured the position was zoned to the SW despite the dismal

performance of the PDP in the region. But Tinubu's selfishness ruined it. Do you think if the vote had been thrown

to a general SW public they would not have voted Mulikat, PDP or no PDP?

Yorubas on this forum are just consoling themselves and overdoing it.The rest of Nigeria actually want us where we

are now - out of mainstream politics.

Some would say what did we gain in the mainstream?I say what did others gain from the mainstream? Its not a

matter of what you gain from the mainstream but being in the mainstream to represent your interests.Nigeria as a

country is very centre inclined as we are yet to practice true federalism.The FG remains the biggest spender in the

whole federation.How daft and senseless can it get for the SW not to have a representative at that level of

government just because of Tinubu.

The SW can handle both regional and mainstream politics concurrently as displayed in the last election unlike other

regions.

Why should Tinubu stop us from eating our cakes and having it if not for his selfish interest?

And for those making du.m.b permutations about 2015 let me state some categorical facts here

1. Only the PDP can produce the president of Nigeria for decades to come if not centuries.The PDP is similar to the

ANC of South Africa

2. The north is not happy with the SW at all be it Obj group or Tinubu group.The way we backstabbed them by

supporting Jonathan is still fresh in their memory right from the days of Yaradua's absence.The are desperately anti

SW at the moment.

3. The ACN will forever remain a regional party that can only win a tiny sprinkle of seats( courtesy aggrieved

decampees from PDP) outside the SW.It can never win the presidential election.

4. Jonathan will seek a second term and get it and the SW will support him amid support from other regions

5. Power will return to the north in 2019. A detribalised trustworthy northerner will be carefuly handpicked for the

job.

6. A Yoruba man can only be president on the platform of the PDP.

7.No matter what Tinubu does, he can never kill the PDP in the SW.SW PDP will always be a formidable opposition

in the region to serve as check and balance.



I feel other southerners, even our dearest enemies, the Igbos, feel for the SW on the loss of the speakersip

position.Forget the bashing. They would have preferred to have a Yoruba speaker than a Hausa speaker who will

surely be a threat to Jonathan's govt. No thanks to selfish Tinubu.


What baffled me was the PDP's decision to field a woman.That kind of worsened the situation and forced the

testosterone-dominated house to further defy zoning and support a man.So it was a case of man vs woman.

Muraina Ajibola was already doing well pre-inauguration and was set to win until the lady came from nowhere.The

north just could not stick it hence they brought up Tambuwal.I would have voted Tambuwal if I were not

Yoruba,zoning or no zoning.

For that,PDP, Jonathan and his wife deserved to be heavily whipped.

Another consolation is that even if the 70 ACN votes were removed from tambuwals 252 and added to Mulikat's 90,

she still would have lost.



YORUBAS STOP CONSOLING YOURSELVES.WE ARE NOWHERE IN THE CURRENT POLITICAL DISPENSATION AND IT IS A BIG SETBACK POLITICALLY AND BEYOND.OBASANJO HAS TRIED HIS BEST FOR US.THE OLD MAN WILL BE CRYING WHEREVER HE IS NOW.

May your days be long. This is the best post I have read here so far.

gidson12:
for all those making noise about the legality of the sacked lga chairmen, let me point it out that those lga chairmen were not elected, they were appointed by ohakim, their was no lg election in imo state during ohakims tenure, ohakim appointed them, so therefore they could be rightly disposed off or sacked by the state gov.

Dede1, can you read the above?.

Dede1:
I am fully committed to democracy based on Nigerian constitution. It is plainly stated in a certain section of the constitution that INEC should conduct elections for the three tiers of government in Nigeria. I am not bothered with Ohakim’s issue because his it should be handled by the appropriate quarters.

I know some councilors who contested and won the election under platform various political parties including APGA. There is not place in Nigeria constitution that vacated the function of sacking the LGA councilors to the governor of any state.

If Okorocha feels that certain LGA chairmen seats were inherited illegally, he could sponsor the contestant from his party to seek redress through due process of the law by appealing to electoral tribunal.

I guess GEJ should sack Okorocha because there was no gubernatorial election in Oguta LGA.

Which election?. All the 27 local govt areas were PDP members. Go and figure. As regards to Oguta, there were rerun elections last May but the number of votes cast was more than the number of registered voters. This was because PDP and APGA went into ballot snatching in that area. As a result INEC voided the results.

Katsumoto:
Please re-read the statement; I didn't state that there should have been a state of emergency declared in the East. I merely stated that there were far more violent actions in the East that didn't result in a state of emergency being declared. There were riots in Okrika that resulted in loss of lives and property; a state of emergency wasn't declared. Yet a state of emergency was declared for chair throwing in the western house of assembly which resulted in no lives being lost. I don't need to also remind you of the violence in Tiv land.

Was it declared for just chair throwing?.

^^^
In the first place, there were no local council and councillorship election in Imo state last August.None of them can prove how he emerged by the electorates. The chap appointed as the local govt chairman was here in the U.K with me until the last day he left to pick up that position.
It was just a mere compensation from Ohakim for the job the chap's brother was doing for Ohakim in South Africa.
The PDP primaries in Ihitte-Uboma LGA had earlier on raised one barrister Uhuegbu only for Ohakim to substitute Uhuegbu's name with this chap who was with me here in the Uk TILL THE LAST MINUTE.

The Okun people are still in PDP. In a multi ethnic and multi cultural state like Kogi, it is proper for the Okuns to link well with others in the state.

^^^
The Izzi people in Ebonyi have long translated the bible into Izzi dialect, yet they do not disclaim Igbo. Guy, give up as your defence is always leaky and weak.
At first you claimed Ika where not Igbo, now a part of Ika is Igbo. This crap is all you could come up with your long vacation.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=686901.msg8488579#msg8488579 date=1307645747]One Oba despoils one. . . .not justifying anything.
That has happened in other regions.
But kidnapping/killing is specified to those two regions.

SW'ners have suffered. They need to amend or modify the rules embodying NYSC before I go in for mines. Lagos is it for me sha. The North/East is not for me at all.  

I might make an exception for Calabar sha. Beautiful city beautiful people[/quote]Mind you, Calabar is in the South south where the recent kidnapping took place. Forget NYSC, no where is safe for you considering  the hatred you preach in the web.

Odunnu:
Haba gurlie, thats no wise saying.

All your posts in nairaland shows that you are well raised up by your parents. Those girls who are poorly raised should learn from you, [i]Nwada Di nma.

Kobojunkie:
10 NYSC members killed during a major riot( that left about 800 people dead) in MORE THAN one northern states vs 5 NYSC members kidnapped, and possibly dead by gun men in just one state in the South East . . . . I think it is safe to conclude, in much the same way many rushed to conclude on the 10 deaths in the MANY STATES in the north, that the South East is also not safe for NYSC members. Or should we wait till the number reaches 10, and bodies are discovered or something? Why not declare a state of emergency now and withdraw NYSC members now, before it is too late.

Where in the south east. Or where you dreaming of south east before you saw this thread?.

JomoGbomo2:
Must we sectionalise everything?

Noops, but some people do not feel comfortable when Igbo or Ohanaeze is mentioned even some who are themselves Igbo.

wesley80:
Dumb and ignorant statements like this are part of the reasons Delta Igbos have been repeatedly pushed into a corner in their state. Make no mistake about it, a future governor from the north of the state wld owe his allegiance to the state and as much as possible DISTANCE himself from groups as Ohaneze not cos he doesnt think he's Igbo but becos it is the right thing to do in an ethnically diverse state as Delta. Being seen to be sucking up to the will of another regionally dominant tribe would spell doom for Delta northerners.

There is no reason whatsoever why anything Igbo will scare you guys away. Anioma participation in Ohanaeze is purely cultural and should not worry you. Anioma elected leaders do not play any active role in Ohanaeze so why worry.

Why should Akala do this shortly before he left office?. I can really smell what Akala is cooking.

This thread is very informative. Well done all.
I personally feel Tinubu should be made Asiwaju of Yorubaland because that will motivate him to do more for the Yorubas. I can remember that sometime in 1990, the Igbo council of traditional rulers made the then head of state-IBB ''ochi agha Ndigbo'. With this title bestowed on him, IBB responded by creating Abia, Enugu and Delta state with the capital at Asaba nine months later.
Am with those who support Tinubu on this matter based on my reason above.

seanet02:
Something is wrong with Mama!! You need to see how Tribune a Paper being Managed by Mama Awolowo was Supporting
OGD and AKala!!
She is suffering from old age

I can't believe that you have just insulted that innocent woman. Why?.

kasiem:
The governor also need to address the issue of some people not cleaning their arse after going to toilet, cos the kind of fart that this people release can cause havoc

That one is personal hygiene.