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Perfectdanny:
Lol at your comment. I'm sure you don't comprehend my earlier statement.
1. Who told you so at bolded?

2. Please check google very well if possible go to the next page. According to us soldiers, they said WE CHOOSE NOT TO GO WITH PISTOLS based on individual reasons. We have u.s soldiers all over the world.

Look at their complete kit when on the field or on duty. Then come back and tell me. Even south africa issues sidearms to their police officers talk less of soldiers.

1Ex and serving US solders have told me this. Do you think every logistical truck driver type, mechanic, Artillery men, Air craft mechanic, Extra Extra carries a pistol? Pistols are issued to those who needed it when they needed. Not every one is a infantry or a similar front line solder.


Why would I check Google when I was told not every solder carries a pistol.



Yes cops get pistols but they don't have a rifle ready in there hand and there and those solders that that need to get pistols. You think the chef in Goma is cooking food with a pistol strapped to his waist, or how about the personal clerk think he is behind his PC with a pistol. Even when they go to main the perimeter, Go on patrol or leave the base they not carrying pistols they carry rifles.

Henry240:
This is where you provide evidence to support your comment, that performance has been taken into account.

That it was built with it. When a sports car performance is rated they don't do so with out the turbo that comes with it as standard. Same here it was built with it so it does not increase any thing that it can do it allows it to do what it can do. Now you can all get back to your silly debate

Henry240:
It improves performance you dummy dummingo!


Performance, RCS and Weight. Must i always spoon feed you South-Africans?

The increased performance is noted in top speed, Rate of climb, accerlastion extra extra but the performance increase is all ready taken in to account when the performance is listed. So how does this increase agility or anything more above what it all ready has

Perfectdanny:
I would have pasted a link here but i don't know how to go about it.

All i'm saying is that the issue of sidearms for the nigerian infantry should not be overlooked.

How many loaded magazines do they carry to war? Do you even know? Those vehicles do protect them but for how long. A well aimed R.P.G can take out any vehicle, choppers. When those happens, then what? I start relying on my ak alone??

Gentlemen i don't see it that way. Sidearms should be a must not just for special forces but for every single soldier whether technical, special forces, etc. Thanks

Not even the USA issues pistols to every one. And you want Nigeria to do the same? Rather carry more ammo than carry a pistol

Perfectdanny:
When i switch to my pistol, i take cover because it has a minimal range compared to the ak. I CAN STILL SURVIVE if my pistol is with me. Close quarters, roof searching, heck those soldiers go through a lot of those. You expect me to climb a ladder while holding my ak. Lol

.And what you cant take cover with out a pistol? How will the pistol help at all? While a pistol is useful in confided spaces I do expect you to climb a laser with a AK, I don't expect you to shoot from a ladder.

Perfectdanny:
Exhausted magazine for your primary weapon. What about that reason?

Rather have another mag than a pistol then

Perfectdanny:
Boss man they don't have it doesn't mean it isn't a requirement.

All those machines may fail at some point. What if during combat i get seperated and my primary weapon jams (which of course is perfectly possible) what then do i use? Or you think this event wouldn't be possible.

You can view my profile and see for yourself a thread i created about sidearms.

You think a pistol with 50m effect range will save you? Sure having a pistol is nice but once it drawn you going to be running and hiding use it as a last resort.


Immediate action drill. As long as you maintain your rifle it will be fixed after a quick drill. Your jam was either a faulty round, bad magazine spring or your exactor did clear the shell before the weapon could load the next round. A immediate action drill will fix any issue and typically a bad spring on a magazine will start to feed better once it has less rounds in it. Bad ammo is a thing but if every round is that bad then every round in your unit is that bad and you all dead and if your rifle did not clear the shell again you have done it for your self.

Perfectdanny:
Check google and clear your doubts please.

What must I google. The fact that a PDW would be useless for a Nigerian Infantry solder fighting long range battles with a enemy armed with rifles. That pistols while nice and al would not change the tide of a battle. Or that armies don't issue infantryman PDW but rather use carbines and assault rifles. Only a few people are issued with PDW where there small size does not get in the way of them doing there job but they not front line infantry men. I mean giving the nature of the war in Nigeria it would make more sense for Nigerian solders to use a Battle riffle like the FN Fal. They seem to be heavly motorised or very stationary and fighting a enemy that likes to stay far from them. Give a Nigerian infantry men a P90 and they will look cool for all the pics expect for the ones where they dead because they where out ranged by a AK47.

so high ranking officers get to go to better hospitals and have more coverage? SANDF is 100% cover for all ranks and if you serve till. retirement it till death

Perfectdanny:
Can you please tell me why our infantry don't use sidearms or pdw are their lives meaningless compared to their counterparts in the DSS etc

What would a side arm or PDW do for a Nigerian solder? Infantry don't carry PDW in the USA or any where.

africaken254:
its a miracle that we can see ugandan troops with RQ-11 Raven UAS/V but never have we ever seen a nigeria soldier/airman e.t.c using a ichoku drone or Gulma UAV in northeastern or niger delta !!! i can even show several UAS/V after having technical difficulties have crush landed in alshabaab controlled territory

why would there need to be pics of the Gulma being used. It being controlled from a airbase and I highly doubt NAF would want the operates photographed while they busy.

The Gulma maybe be a basic UAV but it seems cheap and easy to build perfect for doing recon or keeping a high on something. The Raven is a small light UAV used by solders in the field to basically see what is behind that hill or some similar job. It slow, got a limited range and limt loiter time

jln115:
Live in Potch, home to the School of tactical intelligence, 1 tactical intelligence regiment, 4 Artillery Regiment, Artillery mobile regiment, Regiment De La Ray and Regiment Mooirivier.....and in the 4 years I've been living here, I've not once seen a civilian wearing any sort of SANDF uniform.

the large ratio of solders to civilian population is why. Cops may not know it is illegal but solders do and do the Military police. All so a solder may wear his jacked in joburg where no one knows who he is and chance of bumping in to solder is slim. But in a heavily militarized area chances are some Warrant officer will stop you since it is against regulation to mix civilian and military uniform. So you are less likely to see a civilian dressed in a uniform since I a civilian will get something wrong and end up being questioned on it.

Centrifude:
Uhm yes they do!

When I was in Matric I saw a guy at West Gate Mall walking past 3 police officers while he was wearing a Soldier 2000 Jacket.. Officers didn't do anything, they just looked at him.

Most cops don't know all the laws in the country. Does not mean it is not illegal. I mean most people don't know it is illegal. Though really I don't see the issue with a cap or jacket here and there. The issue is in fully uniform and impersonating a solder or police officer since that means you probably doing something really illegal.

africaken254:
those Gulma UAS not UAV can only operate from a prepared air field and from the inception of the project there has not being any proof of them being used in actual operations.

UPDF troops using RQ-11 Raven UAS during past operation to capture afgooye

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li6vDuzBDsA

there is a very big differences in there roles apples and oranges

gees9:
You both know it being illegal doesn't stop criminals, civilians and the like from accessing uniforms, arms etc from SANDF members through negligence and non-compliance. Just this past week in fact I saw a musician performing in soldier 2000 cap and all

No only criminals since wearing it makes you a crimnal

Henry240:
Nigerian Air Force pilot

what did he do to earn the skull patch on the shoulder?

gees9:
That comment is wholly uncalled for! These very things happen here in South Africa, in fact I see civilians wearing military gear often. So I suppose South Africa itself is a dodgy African country, please let's refrain from name-calling my fellow South Africans, it is unbecoming. Jacob Zuma wouldn't deserve to be president of Syria so let's stop the pretence of South Africa being some perfect El Dorado. I'm really sorry to my fellow Africans, there are prejudices we Saffers must unlearn.

witch civilians? It is a criminal offence in SA for a civilian to wear SANDF uniform.

Patchesagain:
Andrew is mistaken

Prince Harry's first deployment was as a JTAC. His location was kept a secret, but halfway through the newspapers broke the story and he had to be withdrawn.

He completed his second deployment as an Apache pilot.

While his uncle (Prince Charles brother) flew helicopters in the Falklands war.

First in line to the throne doesn't see active deployment, but all the others do.

Ps: The queen was an Army mechanic in WW2

you are correct but in my defence this was all from memory. A few of the royals all so have deployed to sea on patrols with the Royal Navy. Personally I respect that of the royal family that they put there life's on the line for the country that pays them there salary.


O the reason the royals get payed money is that there property is managed by the government and they don't make money of it and the royal family owns a lot of land that makes a lot of money. so the royal family pays there own salary in a round a bout way

denisfidha:
Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex,

On leaving university, Edward joined the Royal Marines as an officer cadet, having been sponsored by the Marines with £12,000 towards his tuition at Cambridge University on condition of future service . However, in January 1987 he dropped out of the gruelling commando course after completing just one third of the 12-month training. Media reported, at the time, that the move prompted a berating from Prince Philip who "reduced his son to prolonged tears.
After leaving the Marines, Edward opted for a career in entertainment.

He is a Colonel in the Royal Army
3rd pic; Whear did he earn the medals from? entertainment? He showed up like this to honor fallen servicemen who served in Iraq, with medals on his chest as if he earned them

those are not medals. That the courses he has done. And the marine commandos is one of the toughest courses out there and officers are required to do it as fast if not faster than junior rates.

As for the medals bellow many things eran you medals including being in the serves for 10 years. Just doing your job can and not being charged can earn you a medal. Deploy to Iraq, medal, deploy to afghanstan, medal, deploy to Kosovo, Medal.



Even in SA people that where madelas funeral got a medal. Just for going there. A medal is a indication of something you have done that maybe a act of bravery or may be just doing your job

africaken254:
how many apache pilots were killed due enemy shooting down an apache !

zambia air force

Actually a few of them have been shot down over Iraq.

africaken254:
serve in the military my a@@!they were pampered in the military.american,british and european leader sneak into war zones to visit their troops.our presidents opening announce they are visiting war zones countries

one of the princes call up was cancelled after a newspaper reviled what unit he was in (it was felt his presences would draw way to much heat and endanger every one) He was flying helicopters over hostile terrain, the royals are far from pamperd in there serves. A few royals where even killed in ww1 and ww2 while on active duty.

denisfidha:
"questionable democracied with dodgy militaries"

1)former president of ghana was burried in full military uniform... having never served in the military- ghana is probably the most democratic nation in Africa..

2) all the men of the royal british royal family wear uniforms as Honorary Colonels of Regiments in Britain's Armed Forces on any official function they see fit.


4) Barack Obama leader of the free world and largest democracy was also wrong in doing this (pics below)

last pic, south korea (the most liberal asian democracy) president park at an observation podt in a military excersize



- A number of presidents never wear then coz they probably look terribly ridiculous in them with plumb bodies.... Got nothing to do with democracy

Military funeral and military uniform not the same thing

honorary colonel is a title some people may have and it allows them to wear a certain uniforms at certin official funcstion. Any case all most every royal is military or ex military



That's not a military uniform

Henry240:
....But SAAF Gripens are not cheap to maintain. Where is your evidence to support the Gripen's EW suite is better than that on the J-10?

They are cheap to maintain and have excellent turn around time.

The J10 does not have a integrated EW suit and is depended on a external pod that by the way costs extra.

tdayof:
Because they have got no choice.
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they got lots of choices. The gripen overs things the J10 can only dream of like a very effect EW suit, support programme a very cheap to maintain and fly aircraft. That where the real cost is by the way. in cost per flight noy unit cost

tdayof:
The F35 has issues but still remain capable. The F22 is my favorite and I still consider it the best. If Nigeria operates the F35, we will consider the problem as minor but for the American they need something perfect.

currenty the f35 cant use a helmet mount site, cant recive data from other sensors, run more than one of it's sensor at a time and can carry only 2 bombs and 2 missiles

ActivateKruger:
The opposition should enquire why a foreign company has been given access to our strategic naval base especially since no contract has been formally awarded.

Not that big a deal. I mean the germans are there, there is a britsh ship docked there, fish trawlers have docked there and so have private tugs and though I worry about china to this deal is not that big a deal for me. They been shown the civilian dock yard not the military side of things. Not like they getting a tour of ops room and they not in silver mine.

giles14:
u dey mind d RSA's ,dey think n see d Chinese as technology thieves,forgetting dat most of those their acclaimed weapon were developed and transferred to dem by Israel during d apartheid era

Cheeta is one aircraft not all our weapons

Henry240:
That's decent. 8 Gripen C/D models to replace 12 CF-5s. The Gripen are the best platform for them, however my problem with the Gripen is it's price, no offence to the South-Africans, but the Gripen C/D does not offer the capabilities required of a $65 million a pop aircraft. I don't see the value for money. If the Botswanans are going for off-the shelf Gripens, from Swedish surplus stock, that would be great.


So definitely Namibia would get the J-10. That's good to read. Yeah, the 3 units of F-7 you lost to the hangar crash, anyway, the time for the F-7 is across the board is coming to an end. Virtually all Nations are now replacing their 3 GEN fighters.

That 65million was not the unit cost and included spareas, simulatorers and a host of things. Is the china deal including a logstcal support deal, or will they have to buy the parts in china and have a china tech install it.

ActivateKruger:
Swaziland buying jets for what now.... They hardly have a functional helicopter.

Swaziland does have a land claim on south Africa

MikeCZA:
SADC thing.


Involvement with the region elite units.

Angola is even using our tracking systems with there special forces. still think Link SADC

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EW Dakota

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africaken254:
SA-3,SA-6,SA-8 have an Optical/laser/infra-red tracking device to allow launching of missiles without the use of the radar,dont also forget several other russian manpads

The missile accuracy is then deepened on the crews training and range drops a lot. How many African nations train to do that how many have the need simulator for it. The star streak simmultaor cost more than a launcher for example. On the Optical mode they no threat.