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Zoharariel:
Thank you for this lovely comment but what you listed are only secondary reasons.

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative
Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Why the Arabs don’t want us in Syria, Politico

Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *

Question: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?

Answer: Because there’s no American embassy there.


Source: https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

daniska3yaro:
Your question supposed to be could russia defeat the whole world and I said no.

TPAND:
I'm quiting nairaland and suing the MODs should this make front page

Lucasbalo:
When I tell you that you know absolutely nothing about America, I am complimenting you. What you wrote is complete garbage. What you are referring to is the special remote that both candidates used to connect the mic. Tramp wears the exact same thing under his suit jacket. You think Tramp camp won't say that if they think she's wearing something different. Don't lose your marbles over election that is several thousand miles away from your country. I don't want you to have a nervous breakdown. You are being infected with Tramp lies.

mojeer678:
Of course, if you had the questions 'piped' ahead of time to you, you'd be 'calm and composed all through'.

It looks like Hillary had a hidden mic
Yep, it just gets better and better - Hillary may have been getting her responses sent to her over a mic box she was wearing on her back. This is going viral on the web now, she got BUSTED. And with a moderator on her side, giving her unfair time, plus a mic box, plus Trump getting messed with, Trump still bashed her into the gutter in the online polls. Way to go.

And I'd like to point something out here - to excuse off Hillary losing, the Time magazine poll (which claims Hillary supporters are more educated, more connected, more social (and therefore have more media communication devices) is implying that Trump is winning because the simple deplorables communicate more, have more devices, etc and that they are stacking the results. So we have a bit of cognitive dissidence here, where the under class is more social and more connected? What a laugh!

SMH

Zoharariel:
1.) John Kerry says America has satellite footage & images showing that the MH-17 was downed by BUK missile.

2 years later, John Kerry is still looking for the evidence.

2.) A large group next of kin of MH-17 victims wrote letters to John Kerry, Ukraine President - Poroshenko & the Russian Federation President Putin.

In the letter, the next of kin requested for the radar data as well as satellite photos & satellite infra-red data to be handed over.

a.) Poroshenko did not respond.

b.) Putin responded through Oleg Storchevoy, the deputy head of Rosaviatsia, (the agency representing Russia in the MH-17 crash investigation), by publishing on Russia Today's website - a response to the relatives of the victims in a lengthy letter. Although the next of kins did not receive a personal email or letter.

c.) John Kerry responded by a letter but did not answer the question about handing over radar data or satellite photos. Kerry just said that the “US believes” (Can you imagine? Just like they believed Saddam had WMDs ) MH17 was shot down by a missile from an area controlled by the separatists.

3.) Fred Westerbeke (the Dutch official leading the investigation of the crash) wrote a letter to the Dutch families of the MH17 tragedy. He revealed that the Amerikans had released their satellite data to the Dutch Security Services, although he did not disclose the evidence.

Do you know Y? Because the data released by Amerika clearly contradicts John Kerry's previous narrative.

4.) Lastly, to the BBC headline: “MH17 missile 'came from Russia', Dutch-led investigators say”

A simple google search of “BUK Missile System operators” reveals Ukraine currently operates 72 units of the BUK Missile Systems - and if Russia already refuted the washington childish narrative “that the BUK system had been taken from Russia to rebel-held Ukraine in the morning of 17 July, when the plane was shot down, and then taken back to Russia afterwards” - then you should do the math.

In conclusion, judging by the scenario that just played out in Syria regarding the bombing of the humanitarian convoy near Aleppo by Amerika & her organ-eating terrorists - while trying to blame it on Russia & the Assad regime; I would say Amerika - through the CIA & the Ukrainian forces downed the MH-17 on July 17, 2014 - and are trying fruitlessly to blame it on Russia.

This is neither the 1st time Amerika is employing that kindergarten tactics, nor will it be the last.

Missy89:
So John Mersheirmear and Stephen Walt have 2 heads or some infallible intelligence i dont know about? You should learn how to think for yourself and not try to argue by appealing to authority. You made a claim. I gave you an example why you are wrong and you are calling Stephen Walt. Lol

GTFOOHM

Missy89:
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Sorry but you are not making any sense. That is always the problem with crackpots. They try to explain their naive position with incoherence and false equivalence.

mojeer678:
US has been called out by Assad:

RT: US airstrikes on Syrian troops were ‘intentional,’ lasted nearly 1 hour – Assad to AP

This is an important piece. This really was a game changing incident that is having serious repercussions now.

"It was not an accident by one airplane; it was four airplanes which kept attacking the position of the Syrian troops for nearly one hour or maybe a little bit more than one hour," Assad told AP, adding they were attacking a large area that "constituted of many hills" adjacent to where the Syrian troops were stationed.

"The IS troops attacked at the very same time as the American strike. How could they know that America was going to attack that position in order to gather their militants right away and attack it one hour after the strike. It was definitely intentional and not unintentional".

Source: https: //www.rt.com/news/360248-assad-ap-intentional-us-airstrikes/

Garshyzee:
ghen ghen ghen ghen!! this russia isis syria conundrum..... hmmm hope it doesnt end as wwIII

NairaMinted:
Meanwhile, today:

https://cdn.rt.com/files/2016.09/original/57e41009c4618879238b467e.jpg

1. Defense Secretary Ash Carter and General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, faced the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday to report on the ongoing military operations and “national security challenges” faced by the US. They also asked the senators for more reliable funding, saying the uncertainty was hurting the defense industry.

“Not only our people – our defense industry partners, too, need stability and longer-term plans to be as efficient and cutting-edge as we need them to be,” Carter told the senators.

Interpretation:
The Military Industrial Complex (euphemism for warmongers and arm sellers) needs guarantees that there will be continued military action so that they can continue to sell overpriced weapons and make a profit. Even though Amerika and its allies weren't invited to Syria and they constitute an invading force that is backed by no mandate, international law or legal grounds whatsoever, they are demanding that the air force of the sovereign country they are invading is grounded and assurances granted that it will be business as usual.


2. Both the lawmakers and the Pentagon chiefs blamed that development on Russia, focusing on the alleged airstrike against the humanitarian convoy in east Aleppo while the US-led airstrike against the Syrian Army fighting IS in Deir ez-Zor went unmentioned.

“I don’t have the facts,” Dunford said, when asked about the convoy attack by Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut). “It was either the Russians or the regime,” he added.

Interpretation:
In other words -as in other instances - we do not have ANY evidence and are just fabricating stories as we go along. Anything to demonize Russia and the "evil regime" of Syria is good in our books. The American people are too d.u.mb anyway (examples here, here and here) so as long as we put it out there in the media, they will believe anything their "trusted" media tells them! Even if we are found out later, they are still too stoopid and insouciant to call us out for our treachery and mendacity.

When karma hits Amerika for all its ills within and outside its borders, that karma will hit hard that I can tell.

Missy89:
Oh really? So you read a book. I see

So tell me. Why are some Jewish senators supporting the Iran deal? Aipaic couldn't pay them off?

Missy89:
So the Isreal controls US middle east policy and failed to stop a deal that will empower Iran even thou security is Isreal main concern in the area. What are you smoking sir? How does your logic even make any sense to you?

Missy89:
So Isreal doesn't control US middle east policy then correct?.

Missy89:
Does that include the Iran deal?

scully95:
Terrorists backing their fellow terrorists, this is not new though but thank Olodumare, Russia has officially reveal it.
Reports bellow

Russian Foreign Ministry: White House 'Defending the Islamic State' Terrorists
https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/images/104500/44/1045004458.jpg

Russia says that the situation in Syria is worsening finding that the rebels have intensified their attacks since the ceasefire came into force on September 12 and laying the blame at the feet of Washington for failing to crackdown on jihadists.


The Russian Foreign Ministry issued a scathing response to the Obama administration after a US Central Command statement suggested that the US-led coalition had warned Russia prior to the airstrikes against Syrian Army positions at Deir Ez-Zor that left some 62 Assad regime soldiers dead. The statement by the Foreign ministry comes in the wake of accusations by Russia that the United States has not been dealing in good faith in the ceasefire agreement with Russian General Vladimir Savchenko saying that "the situation is worsening" with rebel forces escalating their attacks since the agreement went into force on September 12. "Russia is exterting all possible effort to restrain Government troops from returning fire," Senior Army General Viktor Poznikhir said.

The harsh response by Russia comes not only after the United States attempted to flip the blame on Moscow for the attack that killed 80 forces according to the SANA news agency, but also after reports that Daesh terrorists engaged in a major offensive right after the American airstrike crippled the Assad regime's forces.

Speaking on Rossiya 24 Television the Rusisan Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova said: "If earlier we had suspicions that the Nusra Front is protected this way, now, after today's airstrikes on the Syrian army we come to a really terrifying conclusion for the entire world: the White House is defending IS [Islamic State or Daesh)."

Lucasbalo:
Like I said earlier on, what Hillary said was not politically correct but she was very truthful. I don't say all Tramp supporters are racists but racists and bigots in America supports him. There is something here we call dog whistling and that's there way of sending coded messages to each other. I won't expect you to understand the damages of racism to the people of color. About all your gripes about Hillary, she was the Secretary of State and she implements the President orders. Blame Obama then and that's another topic of discussion. I don't care for any war if US is not threatened. Left to me, Ghadafi, Saddam Hussein, Assad and other tyrants I don't care about. Let there people take care of them. I don't like war as much as you but Hillary do not call the shots as to which leader to overthrow or not. That's the call of the President and you guys blaming Hillary for that is just barking against the wrong person. SoS here is equivalent of Foreign Minister in Nigeria, you don't blame the Foreign Minister in Nigeria for what the country did wrong abroad, the buck lies with the President. I grew up with Reagan flooding America inner cities with drugs to finance wars against the Sandanistans in El Salvador. That effect is still in inner cities up till today . That's big time racism , flooding minorities neighborhood with drugs being run by Col Oliver North from the basement of White House. That's the reason I loathe and wishes the Racist One will never become the POTUS. Moreover, Tramp is the one advocating for the use of Nuclear Weapon during the Intelligence briefing he got from CIA. I guess that doesn't bother you. You and I are not going to agree on this because our life experiences differ. It's not about me and even if he wins, it has no effect on me because I have set a prosperous path for myself through the blessings of the Good man above. I am worried about the fragile young ones coming up in a divisive America . Americans don't need a racist, snake oil salesman cum con artist as a leader. We deserve better and I believe I would be proved right on November 8. Peace out.

Lucasbalo:
You see the difference between us in what you just posted. The people ( Racists and Bigots ) Hillary was calling deplorable are the scums of the earth and they are worse than deplorables in my book. I do not expect you to understand that since you do not know the historical perspective of where I was coming from. I don't want America to go back to Jim Crow era that your Russian ass licker Trampy fraudster wants. You talk about world peace, all the lies that you guys shunned out about Hillary is frankly disgusting. One thing you guys forget is Americans are not a single issue voters. We have hundreds of things if not thousands before we cast our votes. I do not like America interventionalism and I have stated that here so many times. I almost lost two nephews of mine that we grew up together because of Bush worthless adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan . So harping on your Hillary supposed foreign policies mess doesn't wash with most Americans. Things that matters to Americans are Jobs, Proctecting S/S, Minimum Wages, Taxes, Women choices, Global Warming and so many things. Comparing a candidate who is an avowed racist to your single issue you are angry about, I know where my dime will go. If you want a confirmed Tribalist and an avowed Jingoist to rule Nigeria , good luck to you but I don't want a worthless con man cum racist to rule mine. Thanks. Addendum, you mentioned Hillary dissing 25 million Americans by calling them deplorables, that's absolutely false. The racists and the bigots she was referring to that supports Tramp with donations and mailing and robocalling I doubt is not more than 500.000. I don't know where you get 25 million people from. I guess from the right wing journals and blogs that are popular with Nairalanders who loathes hillary.

Lucasbalo:
Appleyard, Hillary didn't goof about the statement. I can admit she was politically incorrect. That's the problem with you guys that are biased against her. What she said was absolutely true. All you need to do is watch Tramp campaign and see how Confederate Flags were being displayed with Pride. Americans know what that flags stand for but people like you will never know. Those guys displaying those confederate piece of garbage called flags will skin people like you and i if no one is looking. Steve Bannon of Breibart News who is the CEO of Mr Racist is an avowed racist. David Duke , Alex Jones, Pat Buchanan, Ted Nugget and so many Kkk, Aryan Nations, White Nationalists and so many of the hateful and deplorables human debris are his followers. They are contributing to his campaign and running commercials on his behalf all over America. People like you thousands of miles away will not see or know that. You just Google stuff that fits your narrative and help your hatred for Hillary. I dont know how a sane and rational black man will suppory people like that. Some things that maked you wonder why people love their oppressors.

scully95:
True, that reminds me, this is the same strategy Putin used during the Chechnya war. A lot of people do not know why Yeltsin decided to single handedly hand over power to Putin.. The reason is, he knew he was the only one who could put Russia back to where it should be. After everything he did to the west.. Honestly the west were very much close to winning a war with Russia during Yeltsin era.. But furious west shut itself in the leg by trying to break Russia itself.. Putin was the answer at the time..

He was the one who took the war to the doorstep of the wahhabi crazies, us/Israeli backed terrorist as at the time. So all of them know Russia backing Assad is a replay of Chechnya war but this time outside the boarder of Russia. And this is why Israel and other players are hell bent on escalating of which Russia has all the cards on deck to quickly calm/contain the escalation.

I have a strong feeling it will end the same way Russia ended the Chechnya war and now Chechnya has turned to tourist attraction for many.

seagulsntrawler:
Excellent post!!!

PehaKaso:
MUSLIMS & HYPOCRISY!

You do not want to discuss your Nigeria's OCCUPATION & OPPRESSION of Biafra & the Niger Delta, but freely diss Isreal over same the treatment you encourage in your country.

You have not removed the log of wood in your own eyes, but want to remove the speckle in another man's eyes.

You are a big fool, rot in hell for all I care, in fact, GO & DIE!

PS; I am PehaKaso, a true son of the Niger Delta.

Rajiolaade:
Who poisoned her when she fainted in 2012.