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Missy89:
The problem with most anti America, Putin friendly hacks on NL is that they are simply incapable of grasping that there can be any evil in the world not directly hatched by Washington. This is a very clueless position you guys start every argument with.

Nobody is incapable of grasping anything. Its your lots you have stubbornly refused to see beyond the fleece of jingoism, imbedded with the chronic syndrome of "America can never do wrong," that is the real problem here. As long as oil, pipelines and wars are involved, America will always get pulled in. Face the facts and quit living in delusion.

Underground:
Thoughts? Appleyard, NairaMinted, Scully95, Zoharariel

"As I understand it, Erdogan’s aircraft was being followed by two or three Turkish rebel aircraft intent on shooting him out of the sky.

The reason they did not is that they were not only locked on to by S400 radar at Heymim airbase, but also were themselves being closely followed by armed Russian planes who politely informed their partners (Turkish rebel pilots), that if they made any attempt to shoot down Erdogan they themselves would be destroyed by the Russians.

This element of the attempted coup has not been reported in the West for obvious reasons. It is indicative, however, just how closely Russia was not only following events but also how they influenced the outcome to the detriment of the coup planners.

Taking this in to account, and considering the FSB face to face meeting with Erdogan just prior to the coup where the lists of traitors were supplied, and upon which he is now acting, I am inevitably drawn to the conclusion that Russian military intelligence today knows the exact numbers and locations of these bombs.

More than likely they are still in situ. I don’t think helicopters were used to move them but rather helicopters were much more likely carrying fleeing CIA terrorists and their traitorous Turkish colleagues to safe zones.

Nukes in Turkey and Pakistan and (possibly) Saudi Arabia as well as Isreal make for a lethal powder keg of disaster. No wonder Russia has drawn the Paks toward their trading block. Israel and the Saudis can read the writing on the wall…Clinton is even less trustworthy than Obama thus a change of allegiance to Russia is the only viable long term option.

With the collapse of the Muslem tummy in the US surrounding of Russia and China that leaves only NATO in Europe, South Korea and Japan.

The US world hegemony is unravelling before our eyes and short of all out war there is nothing the US can do to prevent it.

Syria was not a line in the sand. It was the fulcrum point on which the US hegemony destroyed itself. And Putin was the clever politician that saw in this something more. He turned what appeared to the Pentagon to be only a dubious tactic into a decisive strategem.

As the old English saying goes, ‘give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself’! In other words, be patient, let the arrogant US do what it wants without let or hindrance, and sure enough ultimately it will hang itself by its own stupidity.

The US has just publically hung itself across the entire Moslem world for all to see, and there is no turning back. Rothchild’s CIA has stretched its own neck with its own rope. QED.

The nukes are well watched and most probably have been lost to the Russians forever."

There is no denying the fact that foreign intelligences knew about the botched coup, and from the look of things and body languages that follows its aftermath, one can conclude that while some or one of such intelligence body worked in favour of the attempted coup, the other worked against it. This much is very apparent when you consider actions of Turkey immediately after the coup. Turkey immediately called Russia "a friend," which signifies that the Russian intelligence must have helped in thwarting the coup, even though Erdogan denies that he didn't receive any help from any foreign intelligence, but his next comments during the Russian meeting further fuels the claims that FSB must have helped him during the attempted coup, when he said that, "if I make a call for help, I will always find a helper in Russia." That statement alone clarifies the fact that Erdogan was tipped off by the Russians, and so is very possible that S-400 triumph (which actually covered the whole of those area) and Russians tailing behind, must have been the reason why the F16s couldn't take out the presidential jet from the sky. There is simply no other plausible explanation for it.

Again, the lockdown of the Incirlik airbase with such huge security force and armaments, further lend credence to the increasingly obvious fact that a section of the US CIA was behind the coup, either with full or partial collabo from Washington, or that Washington wasn't even at all briefed on the attempted coup. This is very possible because this days, its becoming harder to tell who is in charge of American foreign policy. Whether its Bush era CIA or the other CIA plus Israeli lobby buggy man group, we can't tell anymore. Right now, trying to understand and comprehend the centrality of America's foreign policy, is one hell of an enigma, with State Department saying and doing one thing, while the factionalized CIA is doing another: a complete mystified paradoxical irony of stated objectives.

And now that Turkey is talking of striking defence arrangement with Russia, that will also include missile defence components, while also pushing forward the idea of a trilateral economic and security triangle that will involve Turkey, Russia and Azerbaijan, as a counter to its growing mistrust of and perceived mistreatment by NATO/the EU, is raising eyebrows in the western hemisphere, and has further laid bare the folly and archaic policy of the US in backstabbing and always seeking to overthrow any nation that deviate from its puppeteering course of action. Thus, the rumours making the mills about the tactical nukes, could be anything to go by, not that they would be of much use to Turkey in any significant sense, since they don't have the launch codes either.

However, one thing is gradually unravelling , and it is that, American foreign policy to the Mideast is crumbling before our very eyes. The only regret is that its going to be at the expense of much blood and chaos.

chachanga:
And the funny part's , while citing "street gangsterism" etc as a motivation, the police killings are far from and rhyme or reason. They're motivated by all sorts of sadistic, petty whims that you wonder where all their true-blue honor's evaporated too now. I don't wonder why black kids get all hickey on sighting the cops now.

Yeah

I prefer the UK for the simple reason of security. Life is far much precious than anything you can think of, and I think the first poster aptly summarised the reasons, the chief of them being "police brutality" and street gangsterism. Ordinary Americans are easygoing people and very receptive, but the trigger-happy idiots and psychos masquerading as security agents, takes that shine away. Living in America as a black man entails 40% of your right to life is dependent on the senility of the average American security agent, while praying that you aren't caught in a criminal or gang related crossfire. Aside this, I don't see how else the UK is better than the US.

"This new page will include military, economic and cultural cooperation."

Interesting times ahead @ the bolded..

promise10:
I would like to answer your no 1.

First of all, you have to know that the ear that shall hear the trumpet is NOT YOUR PHYSICAL EAR. Sincerely speaking! And it is not your physical eyes that shall see him. When he shall come unbelievers will not see him or hear him, because they are not like him(no spiritual ears and eyes- FAITH). And then, because the unbelievers are ignorant of the rapture, there will be chaos in the world, because of their uncertainty.

As a believer, it is the faith of christ which we have that justifies, keeps us and shall be raptured by it.

Jesus speaking he said; "when I shall come shall I still find you IN YOUR FAITH"

So, it is your faith that will respond to the trumpet and the next thing follows it. So, the spiritual ears and eyes there, is not your physical eyes and ears but simply what is imputed on your by the FAITH of christ.

So, it doesn't matter where you are, even if you are at the grave, you shall hear the trumpet. So, when it sounds, the faith of ALL the saints in it's totality, whether dead or not, shall hear the sound, CONNECTS IN UNITY and be raptured to meet him in the sky

Very correct.

Lucasbalo:
It sure doesn't look amateurish to me. That's very damaging to the Bigoted One especially in The Southet Bible Belt with all the Evangelicals. Your Trump is finished. His final burial will be November 8 and he can go back to his two bit hustling and con game.

his final burial.... Aright.... but don't tell me you believed the acclaimed photos... they are photoshops... the shadows and the image positions via its reflections, is what gives it out..

Lucasbalo:
Appleyard, stop the nonsense you are saying. Are you following this election at all?. Even Republicans are running away from him like Liberians were running away from Ebola. He's behind by 10 points according to a Republican Fox News poll. He would lose in a record landslide in November.

Don't put so much faith on the polls, dear Lucas. Not quite long, Trump was leading, and now, Clinton is. The thing is, polls keep changing like the minute indicator of a clock, and one should not solely rely on them to draw conclusions. This is one hell of a period of uncertainty. The man they say, is a mad man, but yet, he commands such huge support base: does it mean then that so much of Americans supporting him are equally mad? I don't think so. Well, the elections will tell, and who wins should be accepted as the duly choice of the people (provided the Bernie Sanders votes-like swinging doesn't happen again.) And believe me, its going to be a very keenly contested one: its not going to be easy the way people are predicting. Don't forget that this is one election year with a high percentage of "still undecided voters;" anything can happen at the last minute.

Good luck to America and to you guys over there. Right now, I don't want to be an American voter...... You may wanna ask Missy89...

Its now a common thing that everything that happens whether in America, Europe, or even in hell, must involve Putin. The man is now a household name in the US and beyond. Its so funny the way they dragged him into the election matters in the US. But one overlooked fact is that, by frequently picturing and marrying Trump to Putin, the press are actually making him more popular, therefore indirectly working against Hillary Clinton. This reality was one of the contributive but myopically overlooked factor that made "brexit" instead of "brexStay," a reality. Deluded fake "David" Cameron, instead of solely concentrating on justifying the "stay" argument, based on sound and profound economic and logical reasons, was busy babbling about how "Putin would be the winner should the UK
vote to leave the EU." You need to see the various reactions of Britons that follows on the comment sections of the Telegraph and other British papers. Many potential voters immediately interpreted it as a mark of unseriousness, and concluded that Cameron and his "stay" team were insenitive towards the plight they face via the EU, rather pointing stupid fingers at Putin as an excuse to vote "stay". And as a result, some of them simply choose to vote "exit".

The same thing might just be happening now in the US. By giving so much attention to Trump while at the same time merging him with Putin, may have a catastrophic reverse of unexpected proportions. Propaganda always have a way of turning around and coming home to roost like a bad fowl: plus the fact that, people are no longer buying like before the Russia-hating and Putin bashing propaganda piece of dung the MSM have been trolling since 2013. The human mind is always dynamic, and the quicker the US learn this obvious fact, the better and safer the world would become. For you can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can NEVER fool all of the people all of the time.

cynthia123:
Truely truely, Trump has lost it all.

He is illtempered and too raw with issues as a politician.

He has not lost anything, to the contrary. The man is simply stating the facts as they are, and that's why he is increasingly becoming popular among the people.

The case of delta is one that's very pathetic. People like Udiaghan simply were governor only in name, compared to Ibori, his 8 year rule was a complete and regrettable waste. The truth is, if these scumbags have been granted the right to control our resources, they would have been contesting for enlistment in the list of the world most richest men. Delta state today is one of the most richest but under developed state in the country. Its like God has forgotten the state, and it appears even Satan has equally rejected it.

Very pathetic.

overhypedsteve:
what is this mumu writing na? guy why all this misinformation,
The Scramble for Africa did not include Russia and America oga those two were isolated powers during his that time, the scramble for Africa was between the western European powers of Germany, Britain, France, Portugal, Italy. how did you come about this your lies na. you just kept churning out rubbish all through your post and people went ahead to like the streaming efforts you put into making the nonsense look good. America did not fight world war 1, She did not ally with Russia to fight WW2 she did that with Britain that was why Russia pushed the Germans back herself from Leningrad to Berlin. 80% of what you wrote is misinformation and you know that. America and Russia are two great powers and the fall of one would lead to even more greatness for the other just like America became the only existing Super Power with the fall of the Soviet Union. so carry you misinformation and go and paste somewhere else.

Your head is right there on your shoulders. Can you believe it: that Russia was on the table in the partitioning of Africa? How brainwashing must have been devastating.....

They can do better. Very poor Photoshop collections, amateurs at work.

[quote author=NairaMinted post=48094080][/quote]Wonders shall never end...

Underground:
Is anyone following the developments around the Incirlik base in Turkey?

What's happening over there?

How it sucks to be caught in the middle.
The only option left for them now, is to assassinate Assad and risk ww3. Otherwise, the man is going nowhere.

Interesting. The US endgame in Syria was to remove Assad and to carve out a Kurdistan from thence, together with certain territories of Turkey and parts of Iraq. This is also one of the reasons Erdogan is changing tables, but as for the US, with Russia on ground, the plan to topple Assad is now almost impossible, if not totally a failure. Therefore, the need to switch to plan B become the more necessary. The US planned coordination is a false one, but a right move that would keep the second option alive, in the sense that, by supporting the Kurds while working with the Russians who have also supported the Kurds against ISIS, the Yankees would still have a foothold on its plans to Balkanize Syria, if the plot to overthrow Assad fails completely. The Kurds declaration of autonomy last year is a clear signal of this reality. A balkanized Syria would completely weaken the Assad regime and would also put a dent on the Russian overt interference. Thus, it would be interesting to see the terms and conditions upon which the proposed coordination is to be based, such as, contact and non contact zones, the position of regime forces as it relate to the planned coordination, the varied interest of Israel and Turkey, etc; all these will go along way to determined the make or mar outcome of the said coordination.
Honestly, I just don't see how this proposed coordination is going to work because at a point, the regime forces will definitely strike at the US backed groups which, as a matter of fact, must definitely advance under the guise of fighting IS, and for which the US might be forced to defend when attacked, by counter strikes. Should this happened, it will then put Russia in a very awkward position to strike back as a counter measure to defend the regime, which has been its primary task since stepping into the conflict last year. The possibility that Russia and the US could come to that point of shooting each other, is very real.If anyone think this scenario isn't possible, just remember it has already happened not quite long when Russian air forces bombarded a US support base, upon claims that it has been used to launch attacks against regime forces. Believe me, the Syria situation is far from over, and I would be very surprise if such coordination records major success.

Till then, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

samrovers:
The Program is open to all. Our Head office and training centre is in Lagos. 33 Moloney Street Opposite Kam Salem Police Headquarters Obalende Lagos.

Please kindly send us your mobile number and email address and we will contact you shortly. You may send it as an SMS to 08172806437 or email training@mcdorsey.com

Thank you.

You still haven't answered my question. apart from Lagos, don't you have designated areas where you can conduct this training for people out side Lagos? Or do you expect me to travel to Lagos?

Am following, I just pm you.

Is there a program for people in Delta?

Rubbish. This list is totally incomplete without Emmanuel Uduaghan of Delta included.

Many days for the thieves, one day for the people.

Lucasbalo:
Yes some brainstem. As sad as that video was, you will see some white wannabe defend the officer. One day, the rooster will come home to roost for the lapdog. I am waiting for a self hating house negro ya all are in love with to get on your case.

The evidence is readily available for all to see. Racial profiling and hate forms the bulk of the US justice system, and these event further corroborated the facts and the reasons why you see people even protesting abroad concerning this very ugly fact.

NaijaTalkTown:
Normally I don't join issues with peeps like you but let me give you a clue of what it looks like at Langley. Look up Missy89, Lucasbalo and ValerianSteel's profiles on Nairaland to see how unintelligent they are. They are all CIA agents and I bet a dime that they are among the best CIA has to offer. So stop overrating CIA because it goes to show that you are falling for their fear mongering strategy to make them look formidable so as to demoralize people and weaken their ability to resist them. All you need to counter CIA's actions is to have balls of steel. Their intentions are no longer secret. Just the balls to fight them is what Buhari or any leader who is not a puppet needs.

Cc: Zohariel, AppleYard, NairaMinted, Bonechamberlain

There is a lot of inaccurate angles in all the thesis emanating from the fallout of the Turkish coup, ones that makes it impossible to draw a final conclusion: but be that as it may, there appears one valid argument that can be advanced from the onward, and it is that, Erdogan is changing tact and visibly shifting post. Another argument that can be validly advanced is that, the foreign intelligence of the two most powerful and most ardent geopolitical players in that region - the US and Russia - knew about the coup, and one appears to have acted either in direct connivance with, or in malicious indifference to the coup; while the other acted against the coup. Statement credited to the Turkish foreign minister thanking the Russian government for its "unconditional support," lend credence to this argument.

On the other hand, we don't fully know what the CIA is up to in Turkey. We don't even know who is in charge of US affairs these days in the Mideast, Cause there are just too many factions at play. We now hear complaints of a split CIA - Bush era CIA and the dejure CIA on ground in Syria and in Iraq, with various Ops and endgames that runs contrary to centralized American Foreign Policy diktats. However, their tactics and schemes are no longer strange to the informed eyes, and anyone who think that the CIA project is a friend of Nigeria, is still living in the stone age of delusion. As for money going through Nigeria to finance the Turkish coup attempt, that's just about nothing, as it could have been anywhere else. The money didn't have coup stamped on it, but if we are to go by financial regulations, the EFCC should have been aware of the financial transactions, that is, if we are to go by the story; and should have been able to ascertain as to what purpose the transactions was being made, ditto our intelligence bodies, especially in these critical times of insurgency and terrorism in Nigeria.
If the story is anything to go by, i don't see why some big heads down here shouldn't been taking to the slaughter of incompetency and criminal negligence.

MasterofdRolls1:
Is Buhari not a puppet of the British government? Which we know their MI6 work in tandem with the CIA, thereby removing him from the leaders with balls of steel.

How is Buhari a puppet of the British government?

Zoharariel:
Appleyard of Moskow - I hope you're not referring to our wife - Missy89?

our wife, eehhh.. let me think...

general111:
I thought human brains began to fall on the ground oh...

Even me set.

Wait until someone comes here and tell youthat the police is a saint.

Zoharariel:
Goddamnit Appleyard! Lucasbalo, Missy89, Mazeltov, Vedaxcool, Obagadaffi, Bookface & ValerianSteel - Pls give Appleyard a diamond-encrusted thumbs up.

Amennnnnn!

NaijaTalkTown:
Meanwhile in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia keep losing grounds to the Rebels while their Patriot Missiles keeps intercepting Yemeni missiles on newspapers and blogsites.

You mean, while Satan Arabia propaganda says "A," the facts on ground says "b? Interesting.

NaijaTalkTown:
Yeah the Russians have tested a lot of new weapons since Septt 2015 but this very one may not be a test really. Maybe they are sending a message to Israel? You know the Russians don't talk. They are not the type that will tell their neighbour hey if you do this, we will do that. No. They don't tell you what they are capable of doing. They just show you what they are made of.

True. They hardly issue threats. They just ACT! The damn Russians.