₦airaland Forum

riczy:
Pls fellow Nairalandera,who has ever lived in Omar,and Hw is d place

As in Omar Sharif? I never knew the late actor had a country named after him.

If you mean the Sultanate of Oman, check Nairaland Travel section, you might see topics on it.

Can we see more pics of engine & interior of the 1.5m 2005 Red Honda Pilot?

Thanks.

beautiful232:
no joor

na flesh to flesh sure pass

so if there's any flesh to flesh company...let them sponsor us

Well, then KY jelly is port of call.

Congrats.

But both should beware that sweet wine has lots of calories. Both could do with a few pounds less already.

beautiful232:
alcohol loving couple??

una no go kill person for this nairaland

my own day...na s*x loving couple una go see

Na Durex go sponsor your own.

ok

SAMBARRY:
Its a big deal and very nauseating. How can she be sticking her tongue out on the little boys face

If it was a man that did it to a little girl I know the people that will be quick to label him a pedophilile

Totally innocent but in poor taste. It is not about innocence of it but the way it comes across.

cyrilamx:
You know why am happy about Oba Ewuare is that he is coming to revive Edo culture. In his speech, he said Edo language must be taught in school and spoken at home. He on a mission to bring back the next glory of bini. Thank God we have a bini speaking man as Gov-elect. Oba Ewuare 11 is a no nonsense Oba. He is going to teach the Ijaws who are claiming ownership of Gele Gele , lesson and restore Benin culture. Any stranger that can't accept that should leave us in peace. For once in my 3 decades in life, am proud to be a bini man. Oba gha to kpere, Iseeee

Well, things needed to change. We have to move with the times we know. But the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans & others did not need to fully discard their culture & language to progress.

I have been suggesting for years that we need a Benin Royal Academy of Arts & Science. To formulate & implement how to modernise the language. Modern artistic, scientific, medical, engineering, ICT terms & knowledge should be translated into Edo/Benin language.

uzor2:
The governor pays the oba monthly allowance and also provide security for him. Oba has no army and cannot protect himself. MY FRIEND READ THE BOOK "POWER OF THE REPUBLIC".

The same police that cannot protect citizens from armed robbers, kidnappers and ritualist? God protects everyone.
Oba does not wage wars these days and needs no army.
Obas get an annual stipend. But as you know most Obas are accomplished tycoons, top military, policemen, ambassadors, academics and so on before ascending throne. Hardly any actually depends on the paltry stipend.


Moreover, in Benin City, towns, villages, dukedoms, organisations and individuals give more gifts to the palace in a day than the monthly stipend.

uzor2:
The certificate of recognition will be sign and presented from the office of the governor. Check the constitution of the federal republic of nigeria. By the constitution of nigeria, the governor is the chief security officer of any state in nigeria. The oba is not ruling the state but the governor. MY FRIEND I KNOW YOU GUYS LOVE THE OBA BUT THAT IS THE REALITY ON GROUND.

By constitution but in reality in Benin, the Governor kneels down to greet the Oba. Photos of Oshomhole on his knees at the palace are everywhere.

He's the heir of a defunct empire and everybody is aware of it. Modern system makes no difference to most people. What percentage of Nigerians know the constitution or have any historical link with the military constitution of 1999?

Even from 1897 to 1914 when Ovonramwen was on exile in Calabar, he was still Oba until he departed. Nothing even the Europeans could do to change people's minds and beliefs.
We need no certificate to do our thing. Nobody out there cares.

Pierocash:
Are his wives not up to 10?is it a must that african kings and Obas must have many wives?
Iranu Abasha

Saudi king is African too?

joey150:
Africa should get rid of all these things..where was our so called tradition when the white man took us all as slaves.. These things help set us back many thousand years..that is why most of our big strides in development came when we where under our colonial masters.

We keep dwelling on tradition that adds no tangible meaning or advancement to our society at large.

Well, ignorance of history is what I see in your statement. Slavery was not unique to Africans taken abroad, though it became highly commercial. Some of the earliest Christians & Muslims were slaves. Bilal, the first Muezzin was a slave previously. Those slaves found equality before God & heavenly promise attractive.

In Benin, Oba Ehengbuda (1578-1604 AD), the son of Oba Orhogbua (1550-1578) who founded Lagos/Eko used to send spies to coastal areas to free slaves from where they were held. He got into conflict with white people for it.


Oba of Benin forbade Benin natives buying or selling slaves or being sold into slavery. But the nobles of other tribes within Benin Empire then insisted on selling their own people. Oba reluctantly agreed to pacify nobles of non-Benin areas of the empire. After all they could cause revolts that can be expensive to put down. Benin needed people for war to defend & expand the empire, not sell to Europeans.

Details of origins of slaves from Africa collected/compiled by European slave traders in those days was published here on Nairaland some years back. While Oyo empire, Dahomey, Ghana and other parts of Africa were listed with number of slaves sold, Benin was not mentioned.

It surprised many people here that Benin was never a big slave trading nation, albeit slave raids into some vulnerable parts of Benin territory by outsiders.
For that reason, Benin has no real diaspora descended from slaves. Most were non-Benin citizens of Benin Empire such as Olaudah Equiano (Gustavus Vassa) who bought his freedom and later published his own book in 1789.

plaetton:
How many airlines are shutting down or moving out of Nigeria ?
How many companies have moved their operations out of Nigeria over the past year and half ?
Part of the reasons is that aside from not being able to repatriate their profits, the present government actually CHEATS them by mandating them to use unfavourable fixed exchange rates for their businesses.

CAPITAL always looks for safety .
CAPITAL always takes flight when it feels unsafe.

There are no sentiments and no patriotism in CAPITAL.

Even ordinary Nigerian politicians and citizens move their CAPITAL to safety, talkless of a foreign corporation with a fiduciary responsibility to its home shareholders.

Governments all over the world do a lot of things, grant a lot of concessions to woo CAPITAL, not wage a moronic war against CAPITAL.

That is not the point. You must obey the rules set by your host country.
If they can flout money transfer rules, who knows which other rules they are flouting that are more difficult to detect.

US govt has fined many foreign banks & investment companies lots of money. Deustsche Bank is currently in soup for breaking banking rules.
Those banks provide lots of high calibre jobs in America & internationally.

Not a matter of developed or developing world. It is a matter of sovereignty. Rules are rules. Fair or unfair. They had the option of pulling out like some other companies did. People who voted in Buhari should be ready to bear the economic consequences. They can correct it in the next election if they want.

But first their wishes must be respected including the bad policies of those they elected. That is the way democracy works & that is why GEJ did not hold on to power knowing that voters had chosen "the old ways of doing things" that has no place in the 21st century instead of his own "new ways of doing things" that brought huge economic growth.

karimcarim:
For sale! For sale!! For sale!!!

Price of the uncompleted building?

The other room things.

UnknownT:
We are still waiting for the effect of the China visit takeaway

Wait. The chinese noodle is not done yet.

na wa o.

Fabolousibk1:
Dis is why I blame my Dad for nt makin me Omo baba Olowo....all dis kids get two head....mtcheww...abeg who get pin mouth charger jare....

Was your daddy an Omo Baba Olowo?

I can bet my last kobo that you've had a far easier life than your dad had. Be grateful for what you have.

You now have the chance to make your kids Omo Baba Olowo. I hope you already have millions saved away.

musakanti:
Oba Ewuare1 was great to the binis but the Esan regarded him as Ewuare the selfish.

Well, that is normal. Queen Victoria is revered in England but her govt ordered invasion of Benin in 1897. Do you expect Benin people to consider her great?

Na so.

Life is Osondi, Owendi.

Shekau is a villain to we 9ja people but a hero to bloodthirsty terrorists.

Same with Julius Caesar. The Gauls would not idolise him nor would Persians/Iranians idolise Alexander of Macedon The Great.

plaetton:
Is MTN not entitled to transfer THEIR profits, their OWN money, to their home country ?

If we don't allow foreign companies to transfer their profits to their home countries, then why exactly would any foreign company be foolish enough to come and invest in our economy ?

MTN electing to transfer their huge accumulated profits over the years is simply a vote of no confidence in the present managers of the Nigerian economy.

I have always said it that this clueless government has been waging a moronic war against CAPITAL, a war that it is surely guaranteed to loose, .. unfortunately, to the detriment of 180m Nigerians.

I do not trust the way Buhari is managing the economy with is flip-flop policies BUT they are talking about illegal transfer of funds here. Therefore, it is conceivable that adequate taxes may not have been paid in those funds.

Even if the policies are rather moronic in many cases, you still should not defy the rules a host country said you should follow. Instead negotiate with the authorities.

JixNation:
All the good currencies have joined Bahd Gang.

Ol' boy, they are bullying the Naira seriously.

Is it not that Rice lady the has questions to answer about Abiola's coffee that is there with them there so?

fitzmayowa:
It will be easy for a cow to pass through a needle than for DSS to arrest Ameachi...

Ameachi is a huge burden on PMB whether he is guilty or not...

BTW 2 judges already mentioned his name, it's really hard to ignore all this revelations...SMH

Northern cabals will eventually ask Buhari to give him a soft landing. Like let him resign "to pursue other interests" or give him a post in APC.

At least because of the millions of Rivers dollars he used to fight for Buhari's nomination/election and being such an excellent traitor of his fellow Southerners. If Buhari makes him face the music, it will discourage other Southerners from gleefully playing role of slaves to Northerners in the future. The North know/play their game well.

baum1:
I didn't want to respond to this point, but I will.

The foreign schools I know, and based on academic ability alone, anyone who gets a first there the least they can get in Nigeria is a 2:1. Not to now talk of Imperial College, a top school reputed for great engineering research in the UK.

All these 'he got it here he can get it there is not always true. It's amazing how you guys reach your conclusions without knowing the capabilities of people getting these high grades abroad. Anyway, there is an adage which says ' no matter what, na my papa farm big pass' .

They have no idea about the calibre of students admitted into top UK schools. You need to have been there to know sometimes.
They are the very best students from USA, UK/Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia/NZ and beyond. People with a record of brilliance from childhood. Many on national govt scholarships & more.

True, they study in a conducive environment but also no cheating or buying of grades or sorting. Even if your dad is Obama & you do not make the grade, you get chucked out. Simple.

Well, if they cannot agree on something so basic, maybe they should remain unmarried.

Or Until when both are ready someday.

I think it should be what is culture congruent, not just copying others or the West or latest fad. Does the wife marry into the man's family or the opposite in the culture involved?

Would the lady be ready to pay the man's family groomprice instead of the man paying brideprice?

If one must defy prevailing culture, one might as well go the whole length of it.

After all, the lady paying groomprice would not reduce the size of the lady's butt or b.reasts (in reference to the lady above me).

Well, well. Then what are we waiting for?

They should give them grant to get it into the market soonest.

Nice stuff!

oruma19:
the first olu of itshekiri prince Iginuwa was a rebellious prince of the benin kingdom who comitted sacrilege and was sort by the oba for execution. He ran away into the benin river area and was helped by the urhobos in present day oghara. He formed the itshekiri kingdom with other disgruntled guys from ilaje and other Yoruba tribes. So this person is right with his comment

Nope.

That is a later version. I guess many more versions yet will surface depending on the political desire of people.

He was Prince Iginuwa, son of Oba Olua (ruled 1473-1480 AD) and grandson of Oba Ewuare I The Great. He was not popular with Benin chiefs. Considered rather discourteous/rude. Knowing he would never be allowed to be King, Oba Olua decided to create a place/position for him, far away from the chiefs who disliked him. He was sent to be Ogiame (Lord of the Seas) with full royal courtiers as a prince of blood. It still happens today, junior sons or brothers of the Oba are made dukes of towns outside Benin. We do not have him as committing such heinous sacrilege & running away. We should know in Benin.

That he met Aboriginal people there is possible of course. But remember that most Urhobo people had just emigrated around 100 years or less earlier from Benin area then. Helping a prince from their place of origin would not be implausible.
Itsekiri are largely a mix of Ijebu, Eastern Yoruba people & mostly Benin Royalty/aristocracy.

BALLOSKI:
Nawa

This Edo people own serious. This oba don suffer . Just to crown d guy, na how many days? Haba!

Why are they always holding his hands?

I'd have loved to be there , but as a stranger, they might want to use one for something...fear Edo people.

Funny guy. You too fear.

What you may not know is that, Etsako, Yoruba, Igbo, Urhobo, Izon and others have held & hold important positions in Benin.
Including two Ado-Akure men & one prince of Brass as Chief Iyase (non-hereditary traditional prime minister & second in command to Oba) in the last 300 years.
The current Iyase of Benin is of Urhobo heritage. Benin Kingdom as a former empire is not actually a tribal thing. It is more of shared culture, headed by the Oba. Many non-Benin people erroneously see themselves as strangers whereas historically, they cannot be considered strangers.

It would be very funny for an Etsako person to call himself a stranger in Benin. Because Oba Ozolua, in appreciation of Etsako people's immense contribution to defend the empire against Idah people, proclaimed every freeborn Etsako person as a prince & princess of the empire. That proclamation was never repealed. In theory, there's hardly any position in military command or any vacant non-hereditary chieftaincy to which the Oba could not appoint them. He could even specially create new ones for them. They became the Royal Guild of Dental Surgeons (or Osakon) from which Etsako name came. Urhobo/Isoko have a special place too. Ignorance of history is our major problem.

Myths needs to be busted especially in the 21st century that logic prevails.

The holding of hands is an ancient demonstration of support.
Basically saying, the work of obaship is not something to be left to the oba alone. The people are with him.

An ancient Oba once invited all Benin people to symbolically share his obaship.

The Benin morning greeting "Obowie, Obavan, Obota" for good morning/afternoon/evening" came from there. To remind all citizens at any time of the day that they have a stake in his throne.

People often wonder why Benin people have such fierce loyalty towards the King. But it is actually easy to see why. Very many people emigrated from Benin to escape taxes, harsh rules imposed, war conscription, crisis, building an empire, defending it/winning & dying in wars & losing the empire in 1897. Those Benin people that did not emigrate were made of sterner stuff with much loyalty against all odds. They passed that loyalty to their descendants. And many Obas have symbolically shown appreciation to the people for it.

Take for example: the name Edo came from the name of a loyal servant. The servant notified Prince Ogun (later became Ewuare I The Great, ruled 1440-1473) of a betrayal that was almost certain to end his life. The servant was killed by Prince Ogun's enemies for doing so. As King, Ewuare changed name of Benin to Edo to honour the servant.

WenysAD:
Pls Edolites here help me understand y d oba is always having something to cover his mouth with as seen in almost all pics of him and dat of his wives? Pls wat does it signify?

Royalty is supposed to maintain neutrality of emotions publicly. Lips, teeth, joy or sadness are not supposed to be seen.

In ancient imperial times, news could be broken that 2000 men have fallen in a battle in such a public gallery. And royals would be expected to show almost no emotion of weakness outwardly.

In ancient times, it also added to the mystic of royalty and the tradition has endured symbolically.

In public gatherings or ceremonies, dukes (junior sons/brothers of Oba ruling other towns outside Benin City) and their wives equally cover their mouths. Such dukes that are now outside current Benin Kingdom like Olu of Warri, Oba of Lagos, many obis, ovies, onojies are now even called Kings. They began as Benin princes ruling as dukes in Benin provinces/territories of the empire.

Paradise163:
Thanks on your detailed explanation.

You're welcome.

Life can be cruel sha. Ha!
Condolences my brother.
RIP pretty angel.

ahamonyeka:
how do you mean?when ooni of ife was crown the ooni of ife did you see oba of benin there?no,he will not that's to tell you that oba of benin is the supreme and oba of benin no dey go transfer.

Please ignore such talks if you can. Some people are just here to cause trouble. Ignore them. This is a day of joy. I usually take on people here with much glee. But not today. It should not degenerate into tribal stuff.

We are happy to have HRH Ooni of Ife in Benin. He's even a relative of the Benin Royal family. Everybody is welcome to celebrate with us.