₦airaland Forum

viqueta:
It is totally against the IGBO culture to prostrate before anyone, so what are you talking about? are you comparing it to the youruba's that it is their culture?

And how do you know that the man bowing to Kano is Igbo? He could be from anywhere, even outside Nigeria

PEPPERified:
That is very Un-Igbotic

Nobody said that the man who bowed to Kanu is Igbo.

jpphilips:
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Frederick Lugard did not create our Nigeria you dvmb tit, Britain at the Berlin conference of 1884 took ownership of the "Niger area" divided into the northern and southern protectorates, these protectorates were collapsed in 1914 to birth a country called british Nigeria.
With the resolute efforts of your father's mates through the Pan African pressure groups and tough negotiations, another country was born in 1960, the Nigeria for Nigerians, in 1963, it officially became a republic devoid of British influence.
So when you ask me questions on British Nigeria, I just have a feeling you are poorly educated.

You are even contradicting your self left and right because you have no point. Before 1914, there were just protectorates. Protectorates are not countries. In 1914, Lugard who at the time was Governor general of both North and South protectorates decided to amalgamate both protectorates to create the Nigeria we have today. This amalgamation was done without the consent or permission of the Igbo nation or any other ethnic group and this makes the creation of Nigeria illegal. We Igbos now wish to exit this 1914 colonial arrangement which we were never a party to its formation.

Works of other people means what? listen, we don't owe your illiteracy anything worse more when you don't have the decency to keep it at home.
First, the journey of an independent Nigeria started as early as 1944, till 1954 when Zik eventually became the premier of the Eastern region within which the british agreed to the terms of independence, if 10yrs works and struggle is not a lot of work by your standard, then you are a joke of your existence, Your father was there without any input yet you have the balls to criticize the works of others yet yielded results, continue following the umuahia lunatic about, let me ask you what has kanu achieved? Kuje prisons and hordes of cyclists gallivanting from pillar to post?
Please stop making a mockery of yourself!!

Again you confirm what I said. You are a Nigerian for stealing the country Lugard created in 1914.

You also stole the name 'Nigeria' from Lugards wife

Does it mean you cant go and create your own country and name like Ojukwu and Kanu are trying to do?

Nigerians stole the work of Lugard and his wife in other to exist.

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Frederick Lugard did not create our Nigeria you dvmb tit, Britain at the Berlin conference of 1884 took ownership of the "Niger area" divided into the northern and southern protectorates, these protectorates were collapsed in 1914 to birth a country called british Nigeria.
With the resolute efforts of your father's mates through the Pan African pressure groups and tough negotiations, another country was born in 1960, the Nigeria for Nigerians, in 1963, it officially became a republic devoid of British influence.
So when you ask me questions on British Nigeria, I just have a feeling you are poorly educated.


You are even contradicting your self left and right because you have no point. Before 1914, there were just protectorates. Protectorates are not countries. In 1914, Lugard who at the time was Governor general of both North and South protectorates decided to amalgamate both protectorates to create the Nigeria we have today. This amalgamation was done without the consent or permission of the Igbo nation or any other ethnic group and this makes the creation of Nigeria illegal. We Igbos now wish to exit this 1914 colonial arrangement which we were never a party to its formation.

Works of other people means what? listen, we don't owe your illiteracy anything worse more when you don't have the decency to keep it at home.
First, the journey of an independent Nigeria started as early as 1944, till 1954 when Zik eventually became the premier of the Eastern region within which the british agreed to the terms of independence, if 10yrs works and struggle is not a lot of work by your standard, then you are a joke of your existence, Your father was there without any input yet you have the balls to criticize the works of others yet yielded results, continue following the umuahia lunatic about, let me ask you what has kanu achieved? Kuje prisons and hordes of cyclists gallivanting from pillar to post?
Please stop making a mockery of yourself!!

Again you confirm what I said. You are a Nigerian for stealing the country Lugard created in 1914.

You also stole the name 'Nigeria' from Lugards wife

Does it mean you cant go and create your own country and name like Ojukwu and Kanu are trying to do?

Nigerians stole the work of Lugard and his wife in other to exist.

People like Kanu are now saying that the Igbo nation be given a referendum where they can choose if they want to remain psrt of the colonial creation called Nigeria or not.

Interesting, but only a referendum will decide.

fulanmafia:
....there will still be Isis, global warming, natural disasters, wide wealth disparity etc.

Nigeria has never been perfect, and never will (neither will any country on planet earth) so we'll continue dealing with those problems even after Lil Kenny is sent back to his cage.

We? Who is we? I hope you are not one of those who belives in the fraud called ONE NIGERIA?

maclatunji:
Who named the 'Bight of Biafra'? Advanced ignorance bothers you

Unless, you are fighting for Independence of your village, you have no point.

Go and take lessons in 'self determination 101' from Nnamdi Kanu instead of waiting for Lugard and his wife to tell you what your country is.

freshest4live:
What you are agitating for is a better framework of our coexistence. I am only against brainwashed secessionists.

Why must you coexist with someone who does not want to coexist with you?

fulanmafia:
If Kanu wasn't afraid of Jail he wouldn't have entered Nigeria and lodged under a FAKE name (Nwanekaenyi Ezebuiro) in a backwater hotel.

http://saharareporters.com/2015/12/28/how-biafra-radio-chief-kanu-was-arrested-lagos-dss

Lil Kenny is going to jail and one can only imagine the kind of group beating he will receive from his group members that he abandoned to rot in Kuje.

The fact that he is not afraid of jail doesnt mean he is going to hand himself to his enemies on a platter of gold. Only a fool would do that.

Yyeske:
Thank God you know he's going back to prison

Every freedom fighter expects to go to jail, it is part of the job. Zik and Mandela all went jail before they freed their people. If Kanu was afraid of jail, he would have stayed in London

jpphilips:
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Nation building is not for every nonentity that roams the streets of Enugu, your father was there when the deal was made, what did he contribute? fair to you, we could have changed our name after independence if it was necessary, we changed quite a lot of things, our flag, coat of arms, currency and the way we drive and build our roads, but our existence isn't hinged on nomenclature but the determination of our founding fathers to succeed.
Now back to the issue of those questioning our name, was your father one of our founding fathers likewise kanu? You sincerely think you have the right to ask questions on the positive effort of others, but you didn't ask your father why he was hiding behind market women during our independence rallies? when you get your Biafra choose another name for it because my History tells me that Biafra is portuguese. deriding a British given name to embrace Portuguese is not progress in my books.





Please don't blame anyone for your illiteracy and cowardice of your father.

Ahhh I see!

Fererick Lugard creates a country, you rush and claim the country he created as your own.

Lugards wife creates the name 'Nigeria', you rush and claim the name as your national identity.


So your entire claim to being a nation is rushing to claim the work of other people?

Lol

I laugh in Igbo.

fulanmafia:
You clearly need to claim a refund on your school fees because your comprehension ability is zero.

How does the tripe up there relate to the point that you cannot draw comparisons between an individual and government?

Lil Kenny flagrantly violated his bail conditions and his bail will almost definitely be revoked when the court resumes, and based on his antecedents, he will be locked up for a very long time. Deal with it.

Wether he gets locked up or not, things are not about to improve in Nigeria. Boko Haram will still kill, Hwrdsmen will still slaughter people, the Naira will remain weak against the Dollar, power genwration will be poor etc

There are far worse things happening out there than if Kanu goes to jail or not.

Theres only one destination, freedomland

This gross abuse of office by Lauretta Onochie. To adjudicate on a matter that is already in court, pre-empt the court by declaring what should happen to the defendants bail and even declare the bail as "unmeritorious" is hugely embarassing for someone in the Presidency.

I dont think Lauretta Onochie knows that if her intention was to paint the Buhari administeration as law abiding, she did the opposite.

How can a goverment official be saying "lock him up and throw the keys into the ocean"? Are we in a dictatorship?

If it were a civilised country practicing democracy and rule of Law, Lauretta Onochie would have tendered her resignation for duch callous quotations

If Lauretta Onochie wants to talk like this, she should resign her position and become a private citizen.

The woman is disgrace to her office.

HiddenShadow:
Either Restructuring or Disintegration

Arewa youths and elders have already said No to both.

Yyeske:
I am not understanding still, that aside, why did you steal the British man's language too because I know English language isn't your mother tongue

But Im not claiming that English belongs time, my mother tongue is Igbo, English is just a borrowed language

So, in the same way, you have to admit that Nigeria is not your country but a 'borrowed' thing you took from the British without permission, which is stealing.

Yyeske:
I'm making no head from your write up
Are you a Nigerian to start with and if yes, how did you steal the work of a British man?
Did you steal the British man's language too?
Explain sir because I'm not understanding

British people created Nigeria, they named the place Nigeria. So as an African, if say that you are "Nigeria" is your own, it means you stole the country since we all know it was the British that created it.

Did you ask Lord Lugard for permission to claim the country he created as your own?

Did you ask his wife, Flora Lugard, to use the name 'Nigeria' which she invented, as your national identity?

Of course you did not. When a person uses the property of other peoole without permission, it is a form of stealing.

jpphilips:
This is exactly the kunu logic nnamdi Kanu used on most of you, I can still recall this rant of yours from him on radio Biafra, I never believed any sane person will fall for that sh!t anyways, Nigeria isn't asking you how convinced you are but how far you can go.
so why haven't you declared the damn Biafra republic for starters?

Nnamdi kanu knowing that you barely have anything semblance to a good education backdated your ignorance of Nigeria's existence to 1914, while Nigeria was reborn in 1960 through the joint effort of igbos, hausa and Yoruba.
So when you ask me what you have in common with the man from Maiduguri, i will quickly ask you where your father was when their Tafawa Balewa was fighting a global power for the soul of Nigeria?

The same global power your father was too scared to confront yet these guys succeeded without firing a shot, who knows, your father from Enugu would have taken his place, then Kanu's father may take the place of Awolowo, who knows, the Britain may have considered a republic of umuahia to satisfy the !d!ocy that runs in the genes of both of you.

Wake me up when Biafra arrives!!

Why take the time to write all this jjust to make no sense?

In 1914, Lugard created a country which his wife called "Nigeria"

So the question an Igbo man like me wants anwers to is why you Nigerians stole the country which Lugard created and claimed it as your own?

I also want to know why you Nigerians stole the name "Nigeria" which was invented by Mrs Flora Lugard?

So in essence, you Nigerians stole the work

of a British man and his wife and have been shamelessly parading it as your national identity?

And it is from this act of robbery that you Nigerians are calling for Nnamdi Kanu's head?

Lol

I would like to know more about this act of theft that gave you Nigerians your so called country.

pauljumbo:
Once their is true restructuring the secession agitation will die automatic.

This government don't want it

Better forget about restructuring, the North will never agree to it.

freshest4live:
This your Lugard tale is stale already, we were colonized and brought together by colonial masters and so what?

Because your entire claim to being a 'Nigerian' is based on it. If the British had not come, what country would you belong to today?

Even if Luggard did not come, the Hausa/Fulani's and the Borno Empire may have conquered your Biafra, and today you folks would be bowing your asses out in Onitsha before a giant Mosque.

Now that is making unfounded predictions.

Luggard or no Luggard, we fought for our independence for Which Nnamdi Azikiwe waited for 3yrs to include the North. Even after that, he never allowed referendum in the constitution. So like it or not, the guy in Maiduguri is your brother and a fellow Citizen.

Really? So the guy in Maidugri is by brother wether I like it or not? So what it means is that Lugard has more rights than me in my own land? It is Lugard who can come from Britain to Africa to tell me what my country will be and who must be my brother? No wonder the white man had no respect for Africans, the white man knew that many African still reason like the early cave men.

maclatunji:
Then Biafra is actually a bigger fraud. At least, Nigeria has legal instruments establishing it first, as a political unit and then an Independent country and then a Republic . If you want to argue this effectively, you have to go back to having your independent village like you were pre-colonisation. I may then take you seriously.

Tell us the legal instruments Lugard used in establishing Nigeria in 1914, I would like to learn about this too.

gare:
Why don't NK just register a political party and run for elections in the east and let's see the vision he has for Biafra in his state rather than drag people into what they don't understand like APC

You think Nnamdi Kanu is dragging all these people? Just one man? This is about freedom not politics

I dont know how somebody can call a mere 1914 "colonial arrangement" called Nigeria their country.

If Nigeria is actually anybody's country, it is the country of Frederick Lugard and his wife, Flora Lugard.
He created it, she named it.

As a result of this colonial creation, which nobody was consulted, someone in Maidugri will be telling an Igbo man like me in Enugu that we are 'one'. How? What is my connection to Maidugri? What historical connection did we Igbos have with Hausa or Yoruba before the coming of Lugard? Absolutely zero!

Because Lugard came, we are now ONE NIGERIA? I laugh in Chinese


How can somebody be telling us Igbos what our country is? Did we say we dont know how to form our own country? So what is all this unity begging for?

I totally support the independence of the Igbo nation from the British colonial fraud called Nigeria!

Nigerians and tjeir security agencies are barbarians. Shooting at somebody just fir flying a flag in in his verhicle?

What next?

Hanging people for wearing socks?

Freemancipation:
The name ikwerre is not the real name of ikwerre people.

When the white man named "Harcourt" came to purchase land from his father and two other kings, the interpreter always asked the ihuoha people " unu kwerrela?" Meaning do you agree? And the people will answer "a kwerre lam", meaning I agree.

That's how they started calling them ikwerre people.

With the discovery of huge deposits of Coal at Enugu in 1909, the British needed a port to be built to ship the Coal to Europe. Thats when the then British colonial secretary , Vernon Harcourt, approached Diobu Chiefs to buy the land known as "Igu-Ocha" which upland Igbos call 'Igweocha'. After the port was built, it was renamed Portharcourt after Vernon Harcourt and the entire area adopted the name.

As for Ikwerre being Igbo or not, it remains ever controversial since an Ikwerre man like late Elechi Amadi will say "Ikwerre are not Igbo!"

Then another Ikwerre man like former Governor Chibuike Amaechi will say "I hope nobody will deny me my Igbo heritage"

God will purnish Okoroawusa

moninuola65:
you think is useless but when things get sour you will feel it dearly.
am sure if those people were convicted in court because of igbo, igbo will pay for it dearly!

If Igbos are going to pay for a court decision then they are in the wrong country

maclatunji:
I have taken time to engage the IPOB-inspired Biafran agitators whose propaganda is often also expressed by some Igbo contributors to radio phone-in programmes and there is a trend.

They are quick to list their perceived 'injustices' against Igbos and the Southeast as justification for their agitation. Meanwhile, they fail to realize that their agitation is likely to make the condition of the people they claim to be fighting for worse.

Let us say Nnamdi Kanu was not initially caught when he sneaked into Nigeria and was successful with his agenda to raise agitation in the Southeast. Depending on how successful he would have been, hundreds to thousands of people would have died in the region and there still would be no Biafra. Don't forget, this is not 1967 where a regional system exists and neither are we having military rule where some Southeastern officer can seek to commandeer troops in a secession bid. Any attempt to raise the issue of secession is just a call for suffering on the people of the Southeast. Whatever suffering you might think you are experiencing now will be like paradise to a conflict situation.

I am sure some responder would quickly type- 'we want a referendum like the United Kingdom held for Scotland.' My reaction- stop engaging in dubious analysis and postulations.

The legal framework and political structure of the United Kingdom with its constituent nations is not the same as Nigeria. The Nigerian constitution does not give any window for separation or secession including a referendum. Even insisting on one will still in all likelihood lead to trouble.

So, instigating trouble and getting people in harm's way is not going to help the Southeast and no foreign country will do anything tangible about it too. Their interests are firmly with Nigeria not a rag-tag bunch of secessionist agitators too closely aligned to a discredited Jonathan administration.

Harsh? Well, you need a reality check before you get people killed for nothing.

Stop talking like a fool. You only have to go back into Nigerian history to know what is right and what is wrong. Zik was a well educated man who went to Ghana in the 1930's and established a Newspaper where he wrote about Nigeria having independence, a bit like Kanu was running Radio Biafra, talking about Biafran independence. Maybe Kanu used more crude language but the message was still the same with that of Zik, the independence of the indigenous people of the land from a higher power.

Zik eventually returned to Nigeria, just like Kanu did, and continued his crusade for independence for which he suffered persecution from the British authorities.

If we are to follow your logic, it means that Zik, Awo and other nationalist had no right to agitate for independence. The British created Nigeria, they wrote the constitution of the time that had no provision for independence.

Today, a lot of Nigerians appreciate Zik and others for for agitating and getting independence, yet, the same Nigerian finds it strange that Kanu is agitating for the independence of his own people.

What is the difference between what Zik did and what Kanu is doing? It is still all about the independence of a group of people from a higher power, is it not?

The only difference is that the British are a civilised people while Nigerians are not. Zik and others could never have defeated Britain in a war of independence at the time. But the British knew that to hold anyone against their will perpetually was wrong. When Zik and others showed that they had the support of the people, the British conceded independence.

If the British had wanted, they could have thrown Zik and others in jail, charged them with treason, executed them, gunned down their supporters and kept their control of Nigeria.

The moral of the story is that any group of people have a right to agitate for their independence and they have the inalinable right to be eventually granted their independence if it is truly what they want because whatever the constitution says, the constitution is never greater than the people. Wether they eventually suffer after independence is their business.



Nigeria is just not yet civilised.

moninuola65:
So the questions are;
if those people taken to court guilty and arrested can igbo still living in those region peacefully?
if the Arewa youths arrested as igbo wish can those igbo in the north rest in peacefully now?
Why igbo still believe they can retaliate the past civil war on Nigeria?

These are useless questionsions. What Lawyer Obetta is through the courts. People are allowed to take others to court, so what is the problem? If the Arewa youths feel that Nnamdi Kanu or IPOB are doing anything wrong, they free to approach court just like Obetta did.

I think this thread is useless

OHAMADIKE!

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