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I am pleading that we tone down our sounding the sins of a pastor and ask God to use his church members like Donnie to ask in love for the repentance of the "MOG"

It is challenging them to see the evil in the action and them using the grace of God to deal with it. The grace of God is like a lame duck.

@nameless

She is hereby sentenced to 1zillion billion megadecalion uncountable like years in Hell.

jesus is the Option run now

@Mrmayor

I am no way Justifying the act if it was really committed. I am only concerned with the way we are seeming to rejoice and mock about it.

@topic

When a man speaks in Tongue and no one Understands he should Just Keep it to himself.
If he can interpret then he can speak openly and this the interpretation.
One of the Most important things is praying or speaking with understanding.
Jesus never spoke in tongue to the disciples. But he prayed in tongues. ( He Groaned shouted).
The must important thing is when we are with the brethren is to Edify ( IRON SHARPENETH IRON)
I have attended some of this churches and the seem not to edify.
The real thing we should discern some have but misuse it.
The spirit of truth is not proud abusive or insulting it dwells in a pure heart

@david

Let communicate in love in our hearts because God in heaven is love. The Beginning of Wisdom is the fear God but the Height of it all is the LOVE of God.

Let us move to the Higher level of love God gives us grace.

Amen

@babs787


Point of correction you have not refuted anything. But because of the exchange of hard language that is why I had to step back when this arguement is over I will come and we shall finish this.

@Donnie

Please let us look at the man also. Yes he has a following true. but let us look at the man closely if he be of God or not.


@ all
The Miracles don't make a man (MAN OF GOD)

I am Going to say this The Idea of Man of God Will be Embarrassed, as God will raise humble men that will perform exploit of the last day but the people that believe in men more than him that sent will not see.

What we seen is the revival of man, some do it with the Love of God in their heart and fall by the wayside. some do as for Identification purposes. I have studied Homiletics and I can know when a man is Going astray.

That is why he said and they that know their God shall perform Exploits. It is not those that perform miracle (JUDAS DID PERFORM MIRACLE) it is those that Know Their God ( Have Holiness of Heart and there Character points to Jesus).

God Bless you all

@Phronesis

Thank u for telling me that my name speaks louder. You have just replayed back the Exact tape I heard on a tV In Ghana here.

I can tell you that there is no need to bother The day is a day regarded a day that the holy Ghost was released because you have an occasion because of some Christian group you attack the day in which the holy Ghost was released.

You are trying to move out completely because of hate in your heart please purge this.

THE DISCIPLES THAT RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST ON THAT VERY DAY OF PENTECOST WERE [b]JEWWWWWWSSSSSSSSS [/b]SO PLEASE IF THEY WERE REFERRING TO THE DAY THAT SOMETHING VERY SPECTACULAR HAPPENED WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL. WHAT SHOULD THEY REFER TO? The day of Pentecost is not worshiped and there nothing evil about it.

You live in days that were named after Demon Gods and you write in down everyday. What about that ?

If I say I am a pentecostal means I believe in the event that happened on that day and not the Jewish Traditions of the day. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT SALVATION IS UNTO THE JEWS FIRST.

Some of our brother believe that they are the first African Christians please on this continent Christianity has been practiced for 2000 years the Holy Ghost left us because of materialism and our own ways please don't let us do so again.

Let us live in love amongst ourselves and think on Righteousness and holiness for this without no man shall see the lord.

TELL ME WHERE THERE IS METHODIST OR RICE AND BEANS IN THE BIBLE

OR

BETTER STILL TELL ME WHERE DOES THOU SHALL NOT SMOKE IS IN THE BIBLE?

I KNOW MAN OF GOD THAT PREACHED ABOUT THIS AND I WAS SAD.

THE DAY OF PENTECOST IS A DAY THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AMONG CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THIS WAS THE DAY THE COMMANDER OF THE HEAVENLY HOST WAS RELEASED.

LORD GIVE THEM GRACE TO THROUGH THE FIRE TO GREATER GRACE AND GLORY.

AMEN

@BABS787

You should really relax as this is just forum for religion and it should not be personalized. I condemn all attacks at you and I must apologise in the name of Christ.

Now brother.

When you spew out the bible out of context you are not being fair to yourself. The bible is filled with different accounts of people seeing hearing and understanding at different times and they put this down.

The bible sometimes has the direct inputs of God and this is directly stated. Now you can not use the Quran and the bible they complete opposites because where salvation is solely by Good works in the Quran it is very very different in The Bible. Christ Is our God in The bible. Anyone can read the Bible and Form A religion. You can Use the Bible to support the worship of Shango Oya Orunmila and the rest.

The Bible is a blank Cheque on which any religion can be formed.

The bible rule is that SCRIPTURE INTERPRETS SCRIPTURE. THE MAIN THEME OF THE BIBLE IS THE LOVE OF CHRIST ANYONE THAT DOES HAVE THE LOVE OF CHRIST IS NOT A CHRISTIAN (LITTLE CHRIST).

If i saw you eating with your hand one day and i wrote it down somewhere and someone saw it they could say oh babs ate with his hand. If another person saw you somewhere else eating with cutlery and also wrote it down would that be a contradiction of statement? No The Statement are both true but at different times of View.

So your statement of contradiction is very different because you are looking for it and you will find it.

@ALL

Let us all communicate with decorum we dont own heaven we should be the light to heaven a candle light cannot be hiiden it is our duty to teach until the spirit of truth convicts him if we truly carry that spirit in us.

Amen

@brother Babs787

Yes you can quote the bible it is your moral right to do so. but you must know how to do so. The same book you condemn it is the same book and No other you use to back your claims. Why not book on Shintoism Budha or other eastern books?

The fact is that Islam is trying to cloth himself in The bible and it comes to claim that it is a book has been corrupted. You can do nothing but quote the bible.

My sadness is that You dont know what you are quoting.


Back to the Issue

Why does allah swear by what he created ?
The Quran mention the daughters of Allah

THE SAME GOD WAS THERE WHEN 6 MILLION PEOPLE WAS KILLED THIS GOD IS STILL THERE WHEN HIS SON WAS BEATEN AND HUMILIATED BY MORTAL MEN.

PLEASE ESCAPE THE JUDGMENT OF GOD AND ENTER INTO THE LOVE OF GOD BY JESUS CHRIST. HELL IS REAL READ THE BIBLE.

EVEN JESUS HIMSELF SAID IT THERE WILL BE WEEPING WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.

LOOK AS IF THE FIRE WILL BE RED BLACK HOT FIRE.

THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH.

@NUTTYANGEL

VERY GOOD ONE GOD BLESS

@ poster

Have you heard the Clause Love to Hate

Hell's Current temperature is one ZILLION BILION QUADRILLION LIGHT YEARS KELVIN DEGREES HOT

PLEASE ESCAPE ROUTE IS JESUS.

@ babs787

TO YOUR QUESTION

If muslims worship moon as deity in times of darkness, what do they worship during day time when there is no moon?

The REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOON god KABBAH

@babs

may be you can help Mr Olabowale on this topic. Well I am waiting.

[b]@Dear Olabowale,

I have been learning everyday from you and I know That you have been learning from Me too. I want you to know That I know exactly how you feel about your religion Islam.

I in my posting I have made it Categorically care That The worship of the moon god Codedly By muslim is what I think we must check.

You may say alot of things about me or the Bible. But that does not move the arguement away. Do you have any Idea I was very Pro Islamic in one time of my Life.

I have been into many things and You must know That the we have to Check our history. If Islam Cannot defend it self by it books I cannot respect it.

I am pointing it out to you that you need to give me the History of The people before Islam.

Muhamed Father's name is Abdullah. You have this names are borne by so many other people. You know the meaning of Abdullah and I ask what Deity was refered to.

You are a Yoruba Like me if i call someone Ogunjide( The god of Iron has Awoken). Arasanmi ( Thunder has paid me) and you know that the names were given to the glory of the gods.


please just clear this Issue for me.

@olabowale

About the moon There is alot of Fault here in the Earth world infact faults are Normal occurrence. There Is however no moral result in this act if it really took place.

The word magic is for entertainment it has no morality in it is Canal and for self agrandisement. I don't Care That be it Moslem or Christian if your practice religion or religious books does not have Morality then there is no need calling it Holy.[/b]

@ babs

If beleiving in the Son of God is what you refered cursed I will be cursed forever from hellfire In Jesus My lord and God names.

Muhamed will stand In front of Jesus that Day and the books will be opened and all the deed that he did on earth will be read out.

All those that are found with sin be it Muslim pagan "christian" atheist hindu budhist will stand trial. May the love of Christ hold out for you before you approach your grave.
Amen

let us live men of God alone they will answer to their maker

@Babs

I told you for the sake of Argument that I want to rule that suppose the bible is total Incorrect can we without Quoting the Bible Argue on The Quran , You keep on Quoting the bible.

I am very happy for this so there is salvation knocking at your doorstep the joy that it will soon enter your innermost chamber is Just nigh.

Quran 41 v 9 Contradicts 41 v 10 from your argument.

@mycc

This is not Good Enough We are your Brethren What made you Leave this place did he not Preach Christ?

@babs

there was ship that wanted to capsize on the see and on it the small boat was carrying the people to shore there were this 2 people left and a ballot was cast and one was to stay behind Which was a old man that had a bad temper and cursed all day long.

The Young lad Looked at the Agony of the Old sailor with his hands on his head, the lad told the old man to Go in his place on the boat he will stay on the Ship. He old man gladly took his place and Thanked the lad. But the lad handed the Old man a bible to be Given to the Mum.

The above is what Jesus Died for you and I.

This is true he loved us while we were yet sinners he died in our place this is a Proof of how a man can die for a man.

Jesus is the Atonement of sin for us. Repent now and Believe in Him.

@babs

you just Quoted the bible now bros !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ohhhhhhhhh

@ bab787

You are the one that quoted one Quanic verse Quran 30v30: So set (O Muhammed [saw]) your face towards the religion (of pure Islamic monotheism) Hanif (worship none but Allah alone) with which He has created mankind, no change let there be in Khalg Ilah (i.e. the religion of Allah) that is the straight religion but most men know not.

So pls let us stick to the Issue my brother it is Islam that you said is the perfect religion Remember you said if you see an animal anywhere has 2 eyes

you have seen you are wrong now you are running to where I did not quote.

supposing all of us are going to hell let us live all the Christian sect unless you want to use the Christian sect division to justify THE "PERFECT ISLAM"

Well Go ahead.

My bible says anyone that does not confess the Jesus Christ as God I should Depart from Such in Worship or likemindedness. I have debated almost all this and you can understand their stand view just I am understanding yours

Shalom In the Name if Jesus Jehovah

My brother My Brother ah you never cease to amaze me I know this about Islamic Apologetics they use The Bible to defend their position it is not you it has been like that for years I have been arguing with them.


If all cant be Jews Then Moses is not a JEW! Simple and Short. so your arguement of amongst his people cant hold water.

You Use Mighty weapon of War and you dont know the correct use.

Any way Please keep reading the Bible I am happy you are reading it. When I am Argueing About The Quran I never USe the Any book to defend it.

SCRIPTURE MUST INTERPRETE SCRIPTURE IF NOT THE BOOK IS RUBBISH.

The soul that Sineth shall die I hope you will be ready to meet him without sin. Muhamed cannot never clean you from sin Jesus can. THE BLOOD OF JESUS WILL WASH AWAY YOUR SINS.

JESUS IS GOD HE CAN WASH THE SINS OF MAN. you are no exception.


with the Dueteronomy bible Quote you gave you should read the whole chapter if you are true to yourself. I perceive you are reluctant to read the Various Scripture. This is moral law Given to Isreal OK!

[b] 14Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates:

15At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.

16The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

17Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:

18But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing. [/b]

This is God Telling The Children of Isreal that He Just in Executing Judgement

Ezekiel 18

1The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,

2What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?

3As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.

4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,




If you Agree with this quote below

Galatia 6 v5 & 7: for each man will have to bear his own load. (7) do not be decived, God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap

what about below?

come unto me that are Heavy ladden I will give you rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh

Ezekiel 18v20-22: the soul that sin shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son, the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself. But if a wicked turns away from all sins which he has committed and keeps all my statues and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him, for the righteousness which he has done he shall live.

To the above you should start read from verse11 I know you will not read it so let [b]

11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,

12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,

13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,

15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife,

16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,

17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.

19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.

20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.[/b]

You will see that The Children of isreal were confused the way some families were dying as if God was unrighteous God had to clear the air through a Correct PROPHET ezekiel.


Peace to You from the Prince of Peace

both of them are not Jews That Noun was used the to Describe Judah so that name was used to call all the children of isreal.

In Judah was Isreal named and all the people from Abraham.


You call the Bible Corrupt and You quote from the Bible U use the Bible that you Claim is false I cant understand you at all. I cannot accept Muhamed or ALI THE FRIEND OF ALLAH because They can not wash my sins away. I cannot follow ISSIAH jeremiah moses abraham etc as GOD.

According to bible standard Mohamed doesn't fit into any type of prophet. I will never use the bible to explain the Quran never You keep using the Bible to explain the Quran.

my brother babs787

what i am saying is that You are quoting the bible and you dont know what you are saying this makes me understand why you claim you were a Christian and you dont even know Scripture.

I cant help you with this Though you need to humbly ask the Holy Ghost to teach. Ask like a babe (that is Humble)

Shalom In the Name Of The Lord Jesus

@babs

If I begin to espouse Christian doctrine I may be wasting my time with you so I better live the deep and Dark sayings of scripture.

I will ask you this Question be frank CAN A MUSLIM ONLY SHOULD READ THE QURAN ?

WHEN A SHIAT ALI PRAYs CAN YOU TELL ME IT THE SAME AS A SUNNI ?

BE HONEST THAT SURAH HAS BEEN NULLIFIED EVEN FROM THE BEGINNING

THE QURAN CANT STAND

SHALOM SHALOM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST

@babs

if Abraham was not a Jew that means that Moses was Never a Jew then Your Trying to use A "Corrupted Book" To Justify Your Bible can not be Taken also.

sura 41 v 9 is false verse then because it say He created the Earth in 2 days it contradict verse 10 period.