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Anyone following the last elections online would have said that Buhari was a sure winner, even here on Nairaland the polls showed him to be ahead but at the end, in real life, GEJ emerged as the winner. I think history is about to repeat itself again; Buhari's supporters are in every online nook and cranny, shouts of Sai Buhari are on all NL threads, the rhetoric is everywhere... but I've since come to learn that cyberspace and real life are two different realities, the prize might elude Buhari again. He must surely suspect this too.

The presidency must be living in a parallel universe where oil prices are above $200/barrel. These guys are oblivious of the realities that the country faces.

rman:
10mill monthly?

Bro, I am an engineer in one of the industries you listed, a major player in that sector and I am certain, our GM's do not earn 120 mill per annum.

After the GM's we have the execs.

please tell me the role of those in O&G or Telecoms (one of the two is my industry) that earns 10mil per month. I want to learn.

The strategic advisor for a certain defense company here in Abuja is paid a little over a million dollars. That's well over N10m after conversion and that's a non CEO position.

I'd say same occurs in those Telecoms and O&G firms for top executive positions where pay is linked to a percentage of company profits. I do not have any details as to what the exact roles are so my comment is largely anecdotal. I cannot state the one O&G company where I am privy to the renumeration package of one of its key staff but after coming across that info and the one for the defense coy, I quickly since did away with the assumption that nobody here in Nigeria earns > N10m/month.

rman:
No body earns 10million naira monthly working as a staff of any company in Nigeria. Maybe CEO's of major Oil and gas companies and that's it.

Billyonaire, take this lying on the net easy, we are not all fools and some of us are up there in the corporate world. So we know what actually happens there.

Nobody earns N10m working for an oil coy except CEOs. LOL!

Your statement smacks of underestimation. True such pay packages like that are not wide spread but they certainly exist and it's not just in the oil sector. Telecoms, finance and even a couple of Nigerian based defence organisations have positions asides that of their CEO that pay that much.

OP should spell words properly. This fad to spell words like a dyslexic is insane.

Beautiful piece. Buhari and his supporters keep chanting anti corruption everywhere but they have not offered us an explanation on how they intend to achieve this.

Up till now Buhari has yet to tell us how he intends to work on the Nigerian economy, how he intends to create jobs, how he intends to provide reliable electricity supply, how he intends to deal with Boko haram... Nothing up till now, yet he wants me to support him? Negro please.

It is worth repeating that this is how Jonathan structured his campaign back in 2011, back then it was the "I had no shoes" theme and many Nigerians fell for that, now Buhari is running his "I'm-so-honest-I-borrowed-money-for-everything" campaign. Personally I don't care if Buhari eats once a day because of integrity all I need to know is what exactly he plans to do to turn this nation around, all these anti corruption chants don't explain jack!

Good. Now can attention be focused on how these would be leaders (and the incumbents) plan to deal with the issues that we all face as a nation? It appears both the PDP and the APC are only interested in the personalities of their candidates, no mention is made about how they intend to tackle insecurity, economic development, power/electricity supply and the many other critical areas of our national life.

And no, shouting anti corruption everywhere like the APC is doing doesn't count as addressing these critical issues.

The DSS obviously has a lot of free time for it to concern itself with this union strike. Has the boko haram insurgency in the north been dealth with completely?

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Janet101:
I luv giving even wen people don't pay back, because we are owning God a lot and He still gives his mercy n love...am just praying for God's blessing

Great. I want 500K, I'll pay you back after the new yam festival. Thanks.

AKMoney1:
Smh for PDP and their propaganda lies.

I thought Sahara Reporters was mainly anti PDP.

APC now has the added task of selling an unknown candidate to Nigerians. This is one of those plans that look good on paper but not so good in real life. Victory at the 2015 polls just got harder for APC.

Gotham returns on the 5th of January 2015. Y'all better chill till then.

Before long the conspiracists and jihadists will take over this thread and choke off any chance of sane and reasonable discourse. Just you watch.

major466:
Why are the US so obsessed with Nigeria? What do they want? Looks like they discovered something spectacular in Nigeria and are doing everything possible to get their filthy hands on it. And the only way to get it is cause trouble for us?
#OpreationKickTheUSoutofNigeria

Jihadist alert !!!!

aimuan:
you clearly don't know anything about GMB first regime.when he took over power from shaqari in 1982 Nigeria was in serious dept,but Buhari paid off our dept to the last kobo.there was even a time the western world wanted him to take more loan and also devalue naira but Buhari refused and thats why they conived witth IBB to overthrown him.In FACT when Buhari was the head of state naira was 2naira to 1usd Nigerians were able to spend naira outside Nigeria because naira was seen as hard currency.but because US did not want Africa country Currency to compete with their Currency they did everything to ensure he is out off power.

Why do supporters of Buhari have to lie like this?

Buhari did not pay off Nigeria's debt!

Stop manufacturing lies, they can easily be disproven.

sanmibukunmi:
The same pathetic story Gej used to lure us into voting for him is being used by d major opposition again Instead of building campaigns on Ideas and Debates we are using Life stories....Nigeria is not Ready for change.

Where do you live? I need to know so I can send you a bottle of coke. You have aptly described what I have been saying on this forum.

We are all engrossed with things that have no bearing with the issues at stake and are ignoring the important things.

oyb:
google any of raymcblues 'reviews' and you will find it was more or less lifted from some other site.
sad.

There has to be a good reason for the 'lifting'. maybe he totally forgot to include the source.

Ray. Don't let judgement be passed in your absence, defend yourself.

I suggest you demand trial by combat!
I will be your champion.

^ I know right. When I first came across Breaking Bad in 2008 I thought it was going to be some kind of comedy as I used to watch Malcom in the Middle and was used to Bryan Cranston, Malcom's dad, as a bumbling actor. Was I in for a surprise or what? It did turn out to be one of the best shows I watched on tv though.

The OP with a few exceptions articulates my position perfectly!

How can anything good come from Evil vs Useless?

He is never comfortable without cows?

All this Sai Buhari will end here on Nairaland. It happened before it will happen again.

Buhari + Anybody = Loss in 2015 election. Simple

Are we about to have some in house drama on this thread? Oh goodie...

Ray. You stand accused of comment-plagiarism. Defend yourself.

datribune:
d experience of nigeria under shagari is an experience dat no patriot will ever wish on nigeria ever again. History will always be kind to Buhari who answered d patriotic call at great personal risk & ridded d nation of d worst set of criminals masquerading as politicians of d NPN. That's why decades after, d well-informed know d worth & ar truly hopeful dat he will once again rescue d nation frm another weak & clueless leader.
Yes, what greater proof & test of leadership could there hav been than 4 a leader to turn around a nation in economic & moral ruins frm d inept Shagari years.
In his short stint as leader GMB restored d nigerian economy back, rejected d IMF loan & paid part of d debts owed by d thieving NPN politicians, d rest of which OBJ paid off not too long ago.
FOI, its not only in Nigeria dat military men bcom democrats, 26 of d 44 USA Presidents served in d military. d value of military service remains an important quality dat US citizens sought in their President. Buhari is d best man 4 d job especially at dis trying time 4 d nation. SAI BUHARI

What do you mean Buhari brought back Nigeria's economy? That's a verbose claim and anybody can make it. What did he do to improve Nigeria's economy? The only people who will fall for that line are the unlettered children in the villages. Abeg talk another thing.

Which American president was once a dictator?!

You are doing a disservice to Buhari's campaign by presenting these untruths!

What is without dispute is that Buhari was once a dictator, all the high sounding but empty talk cannot undo that.

datribune:
If Shagari regime is what democracy is about may nigeria never hav democracy.
d PDP's evil ancestor, d National Party of Nigeria (NPN) under weak president Shagari looted d country to bankruptcy to d extent dat no nation would borrow d heavily indebted nigeria any more money. 4 d 1st time in nigerian history d fed govt could not pay salaries. No food, no money. Soap, milk, sugar etc popularly called essential commodities disappeared from d shelves just like in Zimbabwe. d NPN vampires partied away conspicuously while nigerians groaned in unimaginable suffering. d very foundation of d nation was shaken. It was utter chaos. Fortunately 4 nigeria, d patriotic duo of Buhari & Idiagbon came to 9ja's rescue. d warehouses where d NPN criminals hoarded foodstuffs & commodities were thrown open & d nigerian people were given relief. d NPN crooks did not get to power thru free & fair elections & would never leave via elections.
Yes d coup was unconstitutional but necessary to avert imminent collapse of nigeria just like d doctrine of necessity dat brought GEJ to power was unconstitutional but necessary to halt imminent chaos.
I don't know of u but I'm proud dat GMB, who has been tested & proven to be one of d greatest nigerian patriots of all time is once again stepping up to rescue d ship of state dat is drifting dangerously & in danger of sinking in d evil sea of corruption under dis clueless leadership

It's always amusing how we tend to recolor history to suit our purpose. Everyone who was involved in a military coup d'etat will say their effort was a patriotic gesture of rescue, a selfless salvage mission and what not. The fact is a coup d'état will always remain that - a forceful takeover of government. They will not want to mention that it's a power grab plain and simple. There is no way we can reconcile that with democratic principles and this shadow will forever loom against Buhari's campaign.

Aside from putting aside his army fatigue how can Buhari prove that he is a democrat, one who is willing to consider the views and aspirations of others that are not in line with his?

It's also funny that you say he is a tried an tested leader. So in the ~18 months that his dictatorship lasted you were able to gleen that he is the best man suited for leading this country forward come 2015. Lol!

It's only in Nigeria that a dictator can become a democrat overnight.

hazyfm:
Leadership starts from the home

Ask your boss
Ask your wife
or you can even Ask your parents ''in Olamide's voice''

You obviously are under the halo effect.

It is the halo effect that makes the baker think that he can run a successful bakery with just baking skills or a chef that thinks his cooking is all that is required to run a successful restaurant.

For one to be successful in a specific role one must have developed the skill set that will be used in that particular role. Raising a good family while commendable in itself is not a criteria for successfully leading a country. The family is not a democracy, the parents decisions are final, children don't get to decide which instructions of their parents they will follow.

Saying that Buhari raised good children therefore we should vote for him won't stand. What we want to know are his traits as a leader and as an individual, his plans for steering this nation to greatness and so forth. If anyone thinks that their record as a parent (no offence to all the good parents out there)is a prerequisite for leadership positions let them go and open a school and lead there.

datribune:
Buhari's involvement in dat coup dat ridded Nigeria of d NPN, d ancestor of d PDP, which consisted of d worst set of criminals to be found anywhere in d world is probably one of d greatest acts of patriotism by any nigerian, living or dead. d NPN crooks did not get to power thru free & fair elections & would not leave via elections. dat intervention was even more necessary than d doctrine of necessity dat ended imminent crises & brought GEJ to power.
GMB is a man of integrity who during his brief stint as nigeria's leader reversed d rot of d clueless Shagari years & showed d world dat Nigeria could be really great.

Man of integrity indeed. The fact that he lead that coup d'état signifies that he doesn't not believe in the democratic principles or system. In other words he can choose to disregard the laws of the land to achieve his own goals. Besides it wasn't as though his regime was characterised by fairness and justice, reports abound of him stifling the press, involving in human rights abuses and questionable economic policies. All of a sudden in this democratic dispensation we are suppose to see in him a messiah that will move this country forward?

As I said earlier the fact that he was an ex dictator is a very big stigma to get rid of. It speaks volumes against him as a leader.

At the end of the day we as nation should be ashamed that the only other option for us to choose a leader asides the uninspiring GEJ is a recycled dictator.

hazyfm:
HE IS BETTER THAN YOUR FATHER


Sorry to say

No offense intended
He is the only Nigerian President with well trained children

What does well trained children have to do with anything?

Can we please have a campaign of solid ideas and mandates and not all this sentimental rubbish that have no place in government.

Even if somebody from the heavenly host is chosen as Buhari's running mate they will still be a hard sell. Buhari is a former dictator, one who saw it fit to wrest power from a democratically elected government. That is a very big stigma to wash off and it will continnue to be the cause of his downfall no matter how dazzling his rhetoric might sound.

Anyone who spearheaded a forceful takeover shouldn't be allowed to lead in a democracy.

chamboy:
who built the Refinery den.... c ur plea " dubious wealth"

You will find all the answers to your question about the refineries on this Nairaland thread https://www.nairaland.com/1950074/notice-buhari-never-built-single

Re: my question earlier, will Buhari go after his sponsors that are said to have gotten wealth from dubious means? I hope thats clearer.

All this Sai Buhari will end here on Nairaland.

When reality hits his supporters will go cry that they have been marginalised.

Buhari is a relic from an age long past.