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[size=14pt]As govts rage, Fifa ready to fire back[/size]
It is threatening to suspend teams if it senses any government interference; is that overkill on its part?

By LEE U-WEN
ACTING DEPUTY FOREIGN EDITOR


FIRST it was France, followed shortly by Nigeria. And now, British lawmakers are demanding answers as to why England fared so poorly at the World Cup.
 
Last week, a British member of parliament slammed the English debacle at the World Cup as 'pathetic', even going so far as to file a parliamentary motion demanding action from his colleagues to voice their disappointment at the country's premature exit from the tournament in South Africa.

England - who entered as one of the favourites to lift the trophy - crashed out 1-4 to Germany in the second round. The Three Lions, led by Manchester United's top scorer Wayne Rooney, finished with just one narrow victory, two listless draws and that heavy defeat.

Conservative lawmaker David Amess was disgusted by England's showing, arguing that the team had 'let this country and their supporters down'. He wants to relook the state of the national game and points out that many players in the English Premier League are 'grossly overpaid and under-perform'.

But can sports and politics mix? And should it?

Fifa, football's world governing body, has long maintained that there should not be any political interference in the game.

The association's president Sepp Blatter has even threatened to ban France's national and club teams from international competition if French politicians - including President Nicolas Sarkozy - refuse to stop meddling in football affairs.

France, the 1998 world champions and 2006 runners-up, tumbled out of South Africa in the first round without a single win in what was supposed to be the easiest group. This followed their equally calamitous outing two years ago when Les Bleus failed to make it out of their group at the European Championships.

The French made headlines for all the wrong reasons as the team were consumed by one farce after another. The players refused to train at one stage to protest against coach Raymond Domenech's decision to send Nicolas Anelka home for disrespecting him, much to the horror of an expectant nation as they watched the drama unfold on live television.

Still, the French and English players should at least be thankful that they have not suffered the same fate as their Nigerian counterparts after the African hopefuls finished bottom of their group without a win.

Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan was said to be so furious at the results that he suspended the side from international competition for two years to enable the country to 'reorganise its football'.

Whether this is a smart move or not remains to be seen. After all, how else can an underachieving team ranked a credible 21st in the world improve itself if it cannot play in competitive matches for two long years?

It's not as if the Super Eagles went out without a whimper as it restricted high-flying Argentina to a narrow 1-0 victory in the opening game, largely thanks to the heroics of goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama. Surely that must count for something, given that many pundits had expected Nigeria to lose by a much heavier margin.

The big debate is whether Fifa has the right to use such a heavy hand on governments that have, in fact, poured significant resources - money, bonuses, stadiums, etc - into their football teams.

Government leaders are reluctant to ignore outcries from the public whenever the team doesn't do well, and will try their best to improve things because this could earn them valuable votes when elections come around.

Fifa, however, is fearful that government interference could cause it to lose its control and power over the sport. Fifa has been harsh in the past with countries which have not followed the rules, suspending Greece (2006), Iraq (2008) and, most recently, Ethiopia (2010).

Nigeria has already banned itself from international competition. If France and England are not careful, they could well be next.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/specialfocus/story/0,4574,393095,00.html

evantical:
this is like telling your child who failed an exam to stop schooling for two years so that he can come out more intelligent . we should rather overhaul somehow n bring out the best ppl for the job

If you look back a short time in history, you will find that China "banned" itself from the World in other to set its house in order and develop. Today, who doesn't envy China's progress?

helpman:
wat d hell ar u talkin abt?u fink i use dis sturf or wat, well i'm jst an ethical hacker , d script is jst somfin i created nd felt ppl will need it, d money is jst for d tym i spent, u shud even show me som respect, cuz it is we the ethical hackers of dis country that protect u, noobs, so if u feel u dnt need it, stop commenting, or if u wnt to comment ask 4 somfin u wnt or contribute, nd stop showing d world jst hw worthless u r, k,

Ethical hackers build and sell mailing scripts these days?
That is like saying a maths PhD has discovered that  2 + 2 = 4!

Damn! Unu go take laf wound pesin one day for dis NL o!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

How old is the dude sef? Is he really that old old. . . 40+. . . 50?
The thing I really deslike about him, is that he is 100% FAKE. Fake style, fake accent, fake music, fake all!

morpheus24:
You simply can't hand stuff over to people who are entitlement driven and lack the capacity to innovate. A program must be set off for the gradual transfer of wealth from those who have held it illegitmately to those who require it to progress. The problem is the PROCESS to be adopted. It must have ingeniuty, substance, strict enforcement and a reliablity index before being implemented. A clear example ofthis lay back entielement driven , at our own pace approache was witnessed by me when I was in the cape and compared the service delivery in that province to that of Johanesburg. THere is a stark difference. The cape by the way is run by the DNC and The gauteng province of Johanesburg by the ANC.

"DNC". Do you mean Democratic Alliance(DA)? DA is the "hippie" party. It also has strong ANC ties.
I see the point you are driving, that is why I said they will surely go down the equity route; but with lessons learnt from Zim. "Willing buyer, willing seller" has failed the people.
The lessons to learn are how ferocious the counter can be, how land hand overs without very detailed planning can disrupt good intentions and that oodles of silky charisma are necessary.

morpheus24:
Unfortunately Zuma does not strike me as such an individual and South Africa wil remain under pressure soon to implode if he right measures are not taken Once that happens outcome the naysayers who continue to advocate to the world that the ANC are incapable of running the country.

Zuma is simply riding the storm, he is not intelligent enough to take the necessary steps as a progressive leader and I think SA right now is really confused on what direction to take as far as leadership is concerned. They however are content that one of their own is leading them regardless of his/her qualifications for the job

To me charisma and above average people skills are all that is required, the job of the President would be simply to deliver the plan. The ANC machine will take care of the detailed planning required.

Playing with numbers.
It puts 9ja to shame, big time! We need to suspend, disband, reject, thrash. . . Whatever can be done to destroy the current NFF, should be done.

[table]
[tr][td]Country[/td][td]World Cup 2010 points      [/td][td]FIFA Ranking      [/td][td]Population      [/td][td]Total Number of Teams     
Population Can Produce      [/td][td]# Nigeria Should Be Better By     
(Based On Population)      [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Nigeria[/td][td]1[/td][td]21[/td][td]154,729,000[/td][td]14,066,273[/td][td]N/A[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Ghana[/td][td]4 (still truckin')[/td][td]32[/td][td]23,837,000[/td][td]2,167,000[/td][td]6.5[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Côte d'Ivoire[/td][td]0[/td][td]27[/td][td]20,617,068[/td][td]1,874,279[/td][td]7.5[/td][/tr]
[/table]

[quote author=na2day! link=topic=471811.msg6312323#msg6312323 date=1277948866]youtube don block d video

let me try and upload it somewhere else![/quote]Pretty quick enh? Don't joke with SSS. They might not find such pranks in the least bit funny.

[quote author=bk/babe99 link=topic=471808.msg6314174#msg6314174 date=1277986946]Well, the name's kinda long and impossible to pronounce without me biting half my tongue off, so I figured it was Ibo! I guess my bad for thinking all hard to pronounce names are Biafran![/quote]Its your headache. Take Alagbin.

lordangers:
Personally I've got to like this guy better then Mbeki. Mbeki was an fing looney at times like with the Zim thing, he only stopped an arms shipment when the dockworkers went on strike over it. Also as soon as Zuma came to power he saw that land form had to be put on hold. Why? Because he looked at the facts and it's sucsess rate (90% of farms given to black people were losing money). Even though he came from the poor background he saw sense. Im not some white guy asking for him to give it up. I would rather he did but he postponed it which is good enough for me. At least till he realises how to improve it. 
The one thing I dont like about him (aside from his negative private life especially in a region with a high rate of HIV) is his youth wing and who he's got in charge there. Im sure many of you know him. Julius Malema, you know the one who bases every political action he does on race (he said it himself), the fact he calls for the diamond mines to be given back to the "native people", the one who called a BBC journalist a bstrd and a colonial agent (remind you of anyone *cough*Mugabe*ough*) and finnaly, he won a debating competition. Something he was apparently proud of when he was talking to a radio hostess about how he had refused to join a debate with a lower party. And Mr Zuma continues to support him and he even positivly associates with him. I know he's young (Malema) and I suppose all young people are like that but im 15 and saying this is a load of poo and is being said by a guy who cant restrain himself.

It is unavoidable that SA and Namibia will go the way of Zimbabwe, maybe with lessons learnt, it would be less stressful; but that is all we can hope for.
Land injustice is one of the reasons Mbeki was sent packing and Zuma brought in. It is only a matter of time.
The level of injustice in South Africa is grave.

Malema represents the unspoken.

tpiah:
is sammy okposo not Igbo?

any info on him?

Its a bit late now, dear. He is happily married.
. . .Anyways, he is Urhobo, abi is does where he comes from make a difference?

Missy B:
The teeth can't be seen clearly, in that pic.
I saw his latest Video and Jeez, I was like, WTF.
His mouth is almost empty . . . The few teeth remaining are

I Don Die eh!!

Chei! E be like say you de mistake am wit anoda pesin!
The mans mouth looks full of teeth to me! good ones for that matter!

[quote author=bk/babe99 link=topic=471808.msg6314008#msg6314008 date=1277985406]Just watch the Ibo man representing the Nigerian govt Try to secede and declare Biafra. . . . . ![/quote]So Odein Ajumogobia is now Igbo? Charlie, go and rest, you are very tired; hatred can give headache.

@topic
Nigeria must sieze this as an opportunity to forward our international interests and to project power over Africa. Its a chance to locate and step back into our missing African leadership sit.

koolboi:
@kobojunkie, beaf, bluetooth
u guys can choose to be ruled by dose dirty oppotunist almajiris (like the past presidents both living and dead) who drag nigeria to OIC and islamize all our ministries by wronfully elevating illitrates enthrnching mediocity and grossly enriching themselves while adding nothing to the economic well eing of the country

when will nigeria become a country where equity reins and merit is celebrated?

GJ is certainly closer to the answer noT a parasitic, bigotic and clueless aboki

By the bolded, do you mean IBB is a "a parasitic, bigoted and clueless aboki?" Last time I looked he was Gwari, not Hausa - Fulani. He only wants to use the Hausa - Fulani as a ladder to reach his goal.

[size=14pt]Pro-Jonathan rallies kick off in the North[/size]
Author: pointblanknews.com - Pointblanknews.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010

Loyalists of President Goodluck Jonathan on Saturday kickstarted the process of dragging him into the 2011 presidential race with a rally in Bauchi, the capital city of Bauchi State.

The rally under the aegis of The Jonathan Movement(TJM) was tagged: 'A call on the president to run.'

Coordinators of the TJM from across the six states of North Central were present at the rally where a letter of request addressed to the president was handed over to the Bauchi State chairman of the PDP by the six coordinators of the TJM from the North East geo-political zone.

National Coordinator of the TJM, Alhaji Awwal Lawan, who addressed the gathering, said that the rally was aimed at calling on President Jonathan to contest in the 2011 election.

He said that one of the reasons for his group's decision to call on Jonathan to contest is that the president “is best suited to stabilise the polity,” adding that continuity is a major plank of the group's agitation.

"Our reason for asking President Goodluck Jonathan to contest for office of president is because we need continuity in office. President Jonathan has been vice president of Nigeria for three years and by 2011, he would have been president for only one year. We feel he has started gaining the necessary experience and exposure. He therefore deserves to put his experience into practice.

"Continuity is key to policy formulation and implementation. A country cannot progress without continuity in policy direction.

"Secondly, we are supporting President Jonathan to contest for president come 2011 because we believe it will bring about unity and stability within the nation. We must not play politics of sectionalism, regionalism or ethnicity. This country belongs to all of us irrespective of which part anyone comes from. We must extend our hand of friendship to our brothers and sisters across the Niger Delta region because they are our long-term allies and trusted friends," the coordinator said.

TJM also insisted that a vote for Jonathan, in 2011, would guarantee national unity, continuity in policy direction,breed support for sectional, religious and ethnic harmony, democratic consolidation, stable power supply and sincerity in fighting against corruption.

Though the Governor of Bauchi State, Mallam Isa Yuguda did not attend the rally, some commissioners from his cabinet participated in the rally.

PDP aspirants for various elective offices from the six states of North East also joined the rally where they displayed their posters conspicuously. Posters bearing the pictures of the Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Senator Bala Mohammed and that of President Jonathan, as well as that of Governor Yuguda, were conspicuously on display at the Ibrahim Babangida Centre, venue of the Bauchi rally.

tribune

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnewsthread1/28886/1/

[size=14pt]Nigeria: 2011 - Jonathan's Campaign Vehicle Set Ablaze in Kebbi[/size]
Saka Ibrahim
20 June 2010

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Birnin Kebbi — A political campaign vehicle with inscription "Jonathan for Presidency 2011" was in the early hours of yesterday set ablaze by unknown persons.

The Honda 84 campaign car was burnt down in front of the house of a People Democratic Party (P.D.P) governorship aspirant, Alhaji Hassan Kangiwa in the Government Reservation Area (G.R.A), Birnin Kebbi.

THISDAY investigation revealed that the campaign vehicle driven by one Abdullahi Zuru was from Sokoto State and wanted to pass the night in the house of the politician.

Eye witness account told THISDAY that Mallam Zuru who brought the car was inside the house while the unknown people set the car ablaze and ran away.

One of the aides of the politician, Mallam Mohammed Hassan said their father was not around when the incident happened but that they have reported the matter to the police.

When our correspondent visited the house of the politician yesterday, some policemen including men of the state Security Services (SSS) were seen inspecting the burnt vehicle

The state Police Commissioner, Alhaji Sahad Umar Dalhatu when contacted on phone declined comment on the issue because he claimed to have travelled to Abuja since Tuesday but directed our correspondent to see the Divisional Police Officer (D.P.O) Birnin Kebbi, Alhaji Abdulkarim Nuhu for comment.

The D.P.O confirmed the incident that the matter was reported to the police yesterday and investigation had commenced on the issue.

According to Nuhu "The man reported that immediately they set the car ablaze, they ran away and because they were many he could not pursue them".

He promised to make their findings public after thorough investigation.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201007010091.html

debosky:
Sounds like Auschwitz v 2.0 to me.

Seriously Beaf - any reasons to doubt the report? Not only regarding Alams, but about the supposed cover up of corruption by the higher echelons of the House of Reps to secure his 'promotion' to acting president?

The only thing I have rubbished is the alams story. I don't know anything about how the House of Reps acted.

oyb:
nairaland ke - naa this is auchwitz

we got beaf and co in those grimy pajamas on slave labor detail. after that we send the into the showers

Dream of your lovely baby in your very own auchwitz gas chamber.

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

oyb:
hey  you're right, i better stop this. see me getting myself dirty wrestling with a pig (only a pig would run his mout h like beaf does)  who enjoys it  

okay over and out

let me finish the posts of our resident retard. predictable little Arrow, isn't he  

Talk to me after you have gassed your sister. Hatred of Niger Delta people will give you a heart attack.
Talk to me after you have gassed your mother. Hatred of Niger Delta people will give you a heart attack.
Talk to me after you have gassed your children. Hatred of Niger Delta people will give you a heart attack.

don't worry, when this story blows fully in the open, i will be there to wave it cheerfully in your face. feel free to insert all the god gas ya family you want then  

We know your problem. Have wet dreams about gassing your baby, then come talk.

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

texazzpete:
How will it be reflected when all you people know how to do is blame the oil companies, forgetting that the Federal Government collects at least 80% of all the oil revenues from onshore Niger Delta?

All we hear is Shell! Mobil! Chevron! Agip! Meanwhile the major beneficiary is traipsing around freely.

Ask your people to focus their energies on their Local, State and Federal government. Keep waiting for mobil to construct roads for you while your local government chairmen consume all the millions handed over to them for development purposes.

If only you had truely read what I wrote, you wouldn't have made the above comment. I did not blame Shell (although they are as guilty as the FG).

oyb:
beaf the corrupted mp3 file - keeps skipping instead of going forward

are you chicken , just like i said,

get over to the thread and start defending your heros actions. abi your liver dey fail you? or is it only recycling newspaper articles and insulting the families of your intellectual superiors that you know

i know its not easy defending actions that look like they are done by a lobotomy victim,

making inane posts about gassing is much easier

Talk to me after you have gassed your mother. Hatred of Niger Delta people will give you a heart attack.

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

oyb:
meanwhile , why are you silent on this latest gaffe by johnny ?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-471567.0.html




abi that act of idiocy is also a rumour


get your johnny arse kissing butt over there and start justifying his actions

abi your exposure to nerve gas from my chamber has done more brain damage than i thought? (you always have come across as a tossed aside reject from some failed Goebbels experiment )

Talk to me after you have gassed your father. Hatred of Niger Delta people will give you a heart attack.

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

^
When you have finished gassing your loved ones, come talk to me.

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

Toy Hitler.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=471210.msg6311697#msg6311697 date=1277934806]very funny.so your conclusion is that sometimes saharareporters carries credible stories when they favour you while  other times,their stories are false when you dont like such.aaaahahah.what sort person are you self ?[/quote]Even the village id!ot knows that news agencies sometimes get it wrong, so why don't you?

How would the sort of person I am change the fact that you have been actively propagating a story you know to be a lie?
How will it change the fact that you cannot provide even the most rudimentary defense for the rubbish story, "educated" idiots have benn propagating here?

oyb:
beaf had no problem quoting sahara reporters here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=471564.msg6309410#msg6309410
http://saharareporters.com/articles/external-contrib/6323-northern-presidential-impunity.html

he has no problem with point blank news either

http://pointblanknews.com/os1147.html

even though neither is a how you call it ttue news agency

but in this case saharareporters is purveying lies and outright falsehoods  

since it is beloved uncle johnny shining armor knight/ conquering hero of the nd, in the spot light

lets keep watching. we'll see how much longer he can keep his head in the sand

I didn't quote false stories, thats the difference. And if I quoted Sahara Reporters does it excuse the lie that this article and idiots like yourself are propagating?

We all know your problem with Jonathan is that you are rabidly tribalistic to the point of racism. I recall you are the one who expressed a wish to hunt down all Niger Deltans, herd them into cattle cars and send them to the gas chamber (only it will be your family, not Niger Deltans).

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238782

[quote author=bk/babe99 link=topic=471564.msg6311028#msg6311028 date=1277926644]@Beaf: Very interesting article. I believe future generation will end up viewing Mr Obasanjo as a hero! He has called the bluff of the North after kicking their testicles up into their stomach section.[/quote]The stains on Obj are the Odi massacre and Bakassi. Those things only, have moved him into the ranks of demons.

If not for that, Obj's strides in Nigerian politics would have been hailed as visionary and genius. He single handedly took on a hegemony and mortally wounded it.
Most people who blindly criticise him, are well, just blind. They do so, only because they have read or heard the intensely tribalistic vitriole from the likes of Daily Trust and certain politicians of Northern extraction. Well, Daily Trust and the guilty politicians are merely vehicles to express the red hot ire of those affected by the mortal wounding of the Northern hegemony; such things shouldn't bother the generality of Nigerians, loss of power is hardly taken with a smile.

^
Liers have a way of attempting to duck and when that fails, they shift the goal posts.

You cannot escape. Its a simple task for you and your kind. Prove that Alams has been given a federal govt committee appointment by;
[list]
[li]telling us the name of the committee[/li]
[li]telling us the function of the commitee[/li]
[/list]

It can't be that difficult if your so called news isn't a lie, can it?
If you cannot do the above, then you must shoulder being viewed as a propagator of falsehoods. Simple.

redsun:
But why do u think jonathan is the right person for a broken nigeria even he is a pronounced member of a criminal gang called PDP?How did he stand out from the thieves ideologically and morally?

Would the answers to that justify the publication of outright lies in the press? That is all I am concerned about. Why should a news agency publish blatant lies and why should seemingly intelligent people join in propagating such lies?

Its a vulture party with music by Dracula and his blood suckers.

GenBuhari:
@Beaf, Afam ,Lwandle, igboitalo, RSA
I am 100% with you on Mugabe.
To me he is a hero - a strong African leader with courage to defy the West is very rare.

However please stop personal attacks against Tudor, she is a lady and it is not nice to say disrespectful things about our ladies, they need to be addressed with respect even if we disagree with them.

@Tudor, Myjoe, paddy-lo, 4-play, kobojunkie you are clearly all misguided and seem to have been brainwashed by western propaganda and media.

It is clear that Zimbabweans themselves support Mugabe and his correct decisions to sieze their own land back from white farmers who stole them centuries ago. So what are you still arguing about?

We have people who are Zimbabweans or have lived in Zimbabwe trying to educate you and you people still have the arrogance to argue with them using the points fed to you by western propaganda media.

Given the choice of wealth and human diginity which would you choose?

It is easy to blame Mugabe, but if you were him, what would you have done differently? and exactly how did he mismanage the economy?

Viva the African hero Mugabe!!

Another proud African!

. . .About Tudor, if you go back on the thread, you will find that I strenuously tried to avoid Tudor. I would rather not say rude things to him / her, but when people follow you around with gutter words, at some point something will give. . . Then they get a deft left right combination and a black eye.

Lwandle:
BEAF some of our brothers cannot fathom how anything successful can come from a blackman! In their eyes only the white man can do anything progressive and positive!
They have been totally and utterly brainwashed they wouldnt dare critically analyse anything a whiteman tells them, they just take it as fact!
PITY AFRICA!!!

So true!
What some have is called Stockholm Syndrome. . .

In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors that appear irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.[1][2] The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

They are on the wrong side of 27%.

xterra2:
Let me tell you something you are a hard core critic even with the facts you still criticise
With your comment above, did you know the NAF 2010 Air expo (NAF-nijas air force) that was done in May check Tributes to our military for SOME pictures
1, our jets arent poorly maintanes
2, Kill the viewers? IN the AIR EXPO they had an air display from helicopters,transport planes,and fighter jets and it took off and landed safely

Are you joking?
You better go and learn more about the disgraceful state of disrepair of our airforce. It is something that is repeated in all military journals, look these things up before commenting.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=471210.msg6311227#msg6311227 date=1277928635]so i guess your opinion will change if the story happens to be true cuz i'm counting it for you.[/quote]Charlie, free yourself! Don't count on me, instead stop fabricating stories and abetting rumours; thats all you are getting associated with. People see bluethooth and think, "oh, an untruth or exageration can't be far off".

I simply asked you for the details of the so called news story you have been energeticaly pushing, and of course, you are balking because, the "news" story is totally vaporous and false. Shame.

That money never goes into the economy, because big wigs sell more oil than you care to know outside the system. I can bet that Shells figures will not be reflected in the economic figures of the past 5 years, but we all know it goes back half a century. The lid on the ugly can called oil, needs to be blown off.