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DONFASZY:
Dino corruption dey learn?stil dey primary sch

ubongoton:
this one don tive finish for kenya little treasury

GavelSlam:
Lots of Muslim women marry Christian men - Saraki's daughter being a prominent example.

Ubenedictus:
I still can't find faith alone there

Teaser4:
yea I saw that...
but I think he was just catching fun. you should have ignored him

Dnaz:
This describes our initial stage of conversion which is dependent on faith. But after we are converted our faith must work for it to be valid otherwise it is still birth

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:10
The Apostle goes further to exhort us

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, WORK out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
Philippians 2:12
It is so indeed that we are saved by grace through faith and not on our own merits but after that we must work by mortifying our flesh to observe the commandments the greatest of which is love. For so the holy apostle exhorts us and the church fathers asset FAITH, HOPE and LOVE the greatest of this being LOVE and the apostle further goes on
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.
Galatians 5:6
And this is the justification of the impious just as the holy synod(council of Trent puts it)
n the increase of Justification received.
Having, therefore, been thus justified, and made the friends and domestics of God, advancing from virtue to virtue, they are renewed, as the Apostle says, day by day; that is, by mortifying the members of their own flesh, and by presenting them as instruments of justice unto sanctification, they, through the observance of the commandments of God and of the Church, faith co-operating with good works, increase in that justice which they have received through the grace of Christ, and are still further justified, as it is written; He that is just, let him be justified still; and again, Be not afraid to be justified even to death; and also, Do you see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. And this increase of justification holy Church begs, when she prays, "Give unto us, O Lord, increase of faith, hope, and charity."
CHAPTER XI.
On keeping the Commandments, and on the necessity and possibility thereof.
But no one, how much soever justified, ought to think himself exempt from the observance of the commandments; no one ought to make use of that rash saying, one prohibited by the Fathers under an anathema,-that the observance of the commandments of God is impossible for one that is justified. For God commands not impossibilities, but, by commanding, both admonishes thee to do what thou are able, and to pray for what thou art not able (to do), and aids thee that thou mayest be able; whose commandments are not heavy; whose yoke is sweet and whose burthen light. For, whoso are the sons of God, love Christ; but they who love him, keep his commandments, as Himself testifies; which, assuredly, with the divine help, they can do. For, although, during this mortal life, men, how holy and just soever, at times fall into at least light and daily sins, which are also called venial, not therefore do they cease to be just. For that cry of the just, Forgive us our trespasses, is both humble and true. And for this cause, the just themselves ought to feel themselves the more obligated to walk in the way of justice, in that, being already freed from sins, but made servants of God, they are able, living soberly, justly, and godly, to proceed onwards through Jesus Christ, by whom they have had access unto this grace.
For God forsakes not those who have been once justified by His grace, unless he be first forsaken by them. Wherefore, no one ought to flatter himself up with faith alone, fancying that by faith alone he is made an heir, and will obtain the inheritance, even though he suffer not with Christ, that so he may be also glorified with him. For even Christ Himself, as the Apostle saith, Whereas he was the son of God, learned obedience by the things which he suffered, and being consummated, he became, to all who obey him, the cause of eternal salvation. For which cause the same Apostle admonishes the justified, saying; Know you not that they that run in the race, all run indeed, but one receiveth the prize? So run that you may obtain. I therefore so run, not as at an uncertainty: I so fight, not as one beating the air, but I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection; lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a cast-away. So also the prince of the apostles, Peter; Labour the more that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing those things, you shall not sin at any time. From which it is plain, that those are opposed to the orthodox doctrine of religion, who assert that the just man sins, venially at least, in every good work; or, which is yet more insupportable, that he merits eternal punishments; as also those who state, that the just sin in all their works, if, in those works, they, together with this aim principally that God may be gloried, have in view also the eternal reward, in order to excite their sloth, and to encourage themselves to run in the course: whereas it is written, I have inclined my heart to do all thy justificatitions for the reward: and, concerning Moses, the Apostle saith, that he looked unto the reward

Teaser4:
savage... you have bad mouth...you can abuse for Africa... don't abuse me... I dey greet you ni

zaragoza:
My problem with ur post is that u are insisting that faith alone wld save one. Faith without good work is dead, u wld be judged by the things u did and things u failed to do.

Ubenedictus:
if you didn't change anything, oya show me where the Bible says salvation is by faith ALONE.

zaragoza:
If faith solely can save u, then judgement day wld look like "hey u had faith oya go over to heaven" the other "hey u didn't have faith, go to hell" what then wld be judged on the judgement day? Faith without good works is dead, for u to even carry out the good works in the first place shows u have faith. The problem with ur likes is that u are always looking for the easy way out, a short cut. So by declaring that u have accepted Jesus Christ as ur Lord and personal saviour, u are already in heaven? smh. keep deceiving urself

dingbang:
yeah you are right.. Let's love each other.....

dingbang:
cuz I was bored....


Secondly.. I was toasting one girl oo... Told her I am a catholic.. She said no we can't date that we are not bible believers... I was like... Are you high.... I just blocked the girl. Judging someone onto their religion ain't cool because I don't even do that...

dingbang:
well to me I saw it as fun because most of the comments were amusing. Seeing people quarreling...

You don't need to change my beliefs sha... I am a free thinker.. In a good way

dingbang:
first of all.. Look through all the pages in this thread and check if I argued with anyone .... You are the only person who got my attention

Ubenedictus:
I thought you said Faith alone now you change mouth when you find alone to be unbiblical.

dingbang:
and I am trying to make u understand that catholics don't believe that only works will be sufficient to attain heaven... You ain't a Catholic so you don't have the right to tell us what we don't do after we have made u understand that we don't do such

dingbang:
I want to believe not only catholics but every other people believe That self righeteousness is a sin

Ubenedictus:
what would you be judged on on the last day?


where does your Bible teach faith ALONE saves?

dingbang:
boasting about works is termed self righteousness which is a sin

dingbang:
alright... So does the part where the catholics show works of love contrary to the greatest commandment?

dingbang:
What is the greatest commandment?




@ beey

gemale:
Truly we are saved by grace through faith but remember the book of James says that faith without works is dead. The bible says that men would be judged by the works of their hands & that he would tell those who claim that don't do the will of His father to depart from Him because they were workers of iniquity & He didn't know them. The topic of grace has been so perverted today in the church that lawlessness & unrighteousness is now being applauded in its guise. Purgatory is a revelation by the Holy Spirit given to the church that is kind of encrypted in scripture (1 corinthians) where Paul talks about people who didn't build good structure on christ the sure foundation & each man's work being tested by fire & suffering little loss. Purgatory isn't a place where 1's fate is decided. All souls there are heaven-bound. It's just a waiting period of purification by the fire of God's love for things like forgotten sins or certain omissions which if every human is honest, is guilty of. Do you know if that time you refused alms to that beggar just because you wanted to buy credit was a sin? God's ways are not ours so we can't fully comprehend them. How would you like to go to hell for that? The bible says no sinner would go unpunished not unforgiven so Purgatory is something like ironing your white, spotless garments for that heavenly banquet. As for the crucifix thing, have you noticed that we catholics bow the head or kneel or curtsy when Jesus is mentioned or in affairs pertaining to Jesus. So basically what happens when you see catholics seemingly bowing to the crucifix is that the sight brings back the memory how He humbled Himself to die for us all & how God raised Him & gave Him a name above every other so because of that, we bow to fulfil this portion of scripture in philipians 2. It is the memory it elicits that makes us bow not because of some power in that particular image. That is what pentecostals can't figure out. What you see isn't always what it is eg an uneducated person who sees an eclipse for the first time would think the sun is being swallowed up or if I tell people I eat the body of Jesus Christ & drink His blood, someone uninformed might accuse me of cannibalism. Get informed before passing judgement & accept that you need a certain degree of enlightenment. The sign of the cross is something I do numerous times a day whether I'm working, playing, praying, sitting or whatever. Do you even know the words that accompany it? "in the name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Spirit. Amen". A reference to the Trinity isn't wrong, is it? The bible says not to bow to graven images & i've explained earlier why we bow. So even if the image isn't there & something reminds me, I would bow. Images are just better reminders because 1 can see them. The hail holy queen is obviously a passionate plea for the prayers of Mary by a child so in love with the mother. Men have been guilty of making more passionate pleas to other humans using deeper terms of endearment. A man calls his spouse obim, my life, my love, my everything & no one makes a fuss because it is spoken with love. Can any person says without lying that he/she never for once went crying to the mother about something? So also does 1 cry to Mary, a mother entrusted to us by Jesus on the cross.

dingbang:
I decided to hit the nail right through its head and call out all pentecostals (Followers of Martin Luther) in Nairaland to tell the whole world why they think the Catholic Church is not a Bible Believing Church.

On what basis will a Church be termed "Non bible Believing"?


Let's have your Opinions .. As for the Catholic Church, I cannot say that they don't believe in the Bible because I went to Catholic sponsored schools and we used the Bible.My dad & Sister attend the Catholic Church.However, my issue with Catholicism is their doctrines.1.A family friend who is a catholic asked that we help her collect trash after an event.She made it clear that they Catholics believe that good deeds would help you obtain mercy from Heaven.I know that the Bible is clear, we are saved by grace & not by works lest any man should boast. 2.The other issue is that of praying for God to have mercy upon the souls in purgatory , a place supposedly where souls go after death awaiting judgment before being sent to heaven or hell.The Bible is clear that it's appointed for a man to die & after that is judgement.So, am not sure where the purgatory doctrine came from. 3.Bowing down to statues.Everytime they enter a church, they bow before the crucifix saying that they are honoring Jesus. Jesus is risen he is no longer on the cross.Down the street from my place of work, there's a Catholic Church.I see them doing the sign of the cross and bowing whenever they approach a statue of Mary that's outside the church.Yet in the commandments we are told not to bow before graven images.Infact during my primary school days, they made us pray a certain prayer to Mary every afternoon without fail.It went like ...." Hail holy queen, mother of mercy.Hail our life, our sweetness and our hope.To you do we cry........". My life is owned by God and not Mary. Just a few of my observations.

Davindal:
Ok, noted. As an officer Cadet, I even tried. If it were to be my coursemates, she for don murd by now, because, you don't Bleep with soldiers.

Prefola:
"Retweets so her future husband can see her"
with such deflated balloons??
well,the future husband will see it but he is in kenya,cuz itx kenyans that admire such...

BreezyCB:
I Missed Those Girls That Use To Cry After Break Ups. Girls Of Nowadays.
They Will Just Replace You With Contestant Number Two.

QueenMarvella:
My Boyfriend Is Just Getting More Annoying These Days. He Won't Call nor text for days, always claiming to be busy .
But anytime we see, he will turn to the sweetest guy on earth and I will feel like things should stay that way forever. But once we say bye to each other, it's the same story until when we see again.

It's not a long Distance Relationship as u guys may think but I don't know whats' stopping him from showing care through calls and texts too. He doesn't pick my calls too most times and that's what I hate most.

I like clingy, I like double texts, phone calls, Good morning and Good night texts.

And now, am getting tired of the relationship.

Dunno what to do,any advice ,Pls.

breadandbutter:
U are so rude for calling me a mad man. Women should worship men. And i expect the same from u. I'm a man for goodness sake. I deserve your worship. I have many women dying for my attention

breadandbutter:
E pain am U can still be my side chick tho

breadandbutter:
Good bye. I'm married with 7 kids. I don't need ur love either.

breadandbutter:
I want you Why are you so stubborn sef? U should let me love you.