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Sempumping:
Haq haq haq ,you need to understand yourself

They do not necessarily need to complete a process to know the level of integrity that has/uld be involved .
NNPC is recruiting 95% on merit,if you and your village people and ministers like it or not ,that's what they ll get.

Connection, connection why did you people honour the interview invitation when u have no plug.
No list is different from not approved .

I told you not to quote me if you 've got no facts.

Radarada

So please provide evidence of where it was clearly stated that it must be 95% merit since you have the facts, trust me I will gladly acknowledge your position. I told you I don't engage in shallow arguments.

For the fact that you know how to throw barbs does not add credibility to your arguments. It still remains shallow.

Sempumping:
Where did you hear this I ll continue to say ,this process has been by merit and if perhaps anything changes (at the least )90% to 95% would be employed by merit .
Some of you dont believe( the merit )but at thesame time you are expectant ,if you are sure it's by connection ,it is pointless to keep hoping.
NNPC isn't NIMC o,they even go ahead to request for your academic transcripts (those guys are serious )after you have been employed .Process that is undergoing audit at every phase .
Let me just pim here

Btw, if you have no sure info and statistics to take me up on the 95% merit ,dont bother quoting me

For someone who earlier gave conflicting info in the same sentence as regards list not being approved but went ahead to insist it is 95% merit, please do well not to quote me, talkless of debunking my statement. I don't engage in shallow arguments.

Mehn! this underground recruitment is very intense oo, from "ministers" down to the "clerk" in HR are trying to force their candidates down NNPC's throat. I just hope they apply wisdom in yielding to their pressure to ensure the common man gets a fair share of the deal. It is quite sickening, haba!

You see how ordinary punctuation marks almost started World war 3? Morale of the story, take your punctuation marks seriously.

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Sometimes the arguments one reads here are just a product of poor English comprehension.

This APL should just come quickly, 'AYAM TAYAD!'

Jarus:
Okay make all of us dey declare now.

na first class me too get o

Ah! Dem don begin share money? Me sef na First Class oo, I declared mine long ago before the interview invites. So I should receive my money before Jarus

ChasteGhuy:
Earlier on you said you believed jarus' claim that there's no correlation between TF and APL. Have you now shifted ground?

As in, if 5th peeps were paid and the TF eluded you, you can comfortably agree the ABT is the new 1% isn't it?

@bolded, Why does this remind me of the part of the bible where the devil was tempting Jesus to convert stone to bread to satiate his hunger during Jesus' 40days fasting?

Gbriels:
@local man jarus.....
I missed checking something oooo...
And I wantu to check pls
That "next week" way u be talk since....abeg e never reach?
.....@beeam,souljar, chasteguy, teaser4, bobowaja, mathology, benflash,Steve55, Number5, Jiang,larride, enrypech, olasunky, adeebiwa09, RealisticJ, and rest local men......I hail ooo

U r sighted @Gbriels

talk2dace:
[Aquote author=NigelCundy post=81577077]You made an awesome submission boss. However, I think it doesn't warrant the interviewers to be upset.

As the OP stated that they did not previously inform them about the JD prior to the interview. Also, even if they had given the description and responsibilities to be performed by a candidate, it is not out of place for a candidate to ask what the day to day responsibilities of the job is because it gives the candidate a better perspective of what he can expect in the role and it also allows them weigh their strengths against what a regular day on the job looks like.

I am of the opinion that many Nigerians who make up interview panels are not trained for it, that is the reason many of them lack judgment and allow bias in their selection.

OP, you weren't completely wrong. I'd advise that you compose the question in a different manner when next you're faced with such a situation.
Good luck.

Thank you oga Jarus.

I think 'irritated' is a more befitting description, however showing it to the candidate right there in the panel room is unprofessional IMHO and this act supports my earlier submission that he prolly has his candidate, hence the overt emotion to sway the decision of the other panelists.

monlawal:
Exactly my thoughts �
Probably in your case, you did not see the job description on any advertorial. But what is described in the adverts are always enough and exactly what the recruiters want you to know at that material time

There was no advert but the candidate ought to have asked the referee the position he is being interviewed for, so that he can research the JD. It is called being proactive.

The candidate was like an army personnel directed to gear up and go into battle without him taking time to find out if the war was in Sambisa or Syria. This also brings to bare what questions were asked and how well the Candidate answered considering his 'ill-preparedness.'

'Las las', the question he asked at the end was, for lack of a better expression, "embarrassing". However, if truly it was a non-published vacancy, then a slap on the wrist should be enough considering the surrounding circumstance of the job post. Let them not throw the child away along with the bath water. I am sure of one thing though, it has negatively affected his chances but the real question is by how much? Pray the other panelists weren't so interested in the main panelist's criticisms but in the candidates's overall performance especially for a GT position. It is unforgivable for an EH.

Skevin:
Opinion needed
Firstly, my apologies for discussing something other than nnpc recruitment here.
I recently attended a job interview based on referral (the job was not advertised). Towards the end of the interview, as usual, I was given an opportunity to ask some questions. I decided to ask that they give me an overview of the job responsibilities. That question did not go down well with one of the panelists. To him, it was an indication that I came to the interview without knowing the responsibilities of the role. Although I tried to make him see reason that since the job was not advertised, I couldn't have had the opportunity to go through the job description, he still didn't seem pleased with the explanation.
Please, I would like to have your opinions on whether my question was fundamentally wrong the way the man tried to make it look. Until that very moment, I was of the opinion that an interview is meant to be an opportunity for the interviewers to get to know the candidates better just as it is for the candidate to get to know more about the job and the organization.
Uncle Jarus and others with experience on interview coaching and recruitment should please give local man their opinion as he is presently confused.

P. S the only prior information I had with regard the interview was that they were looking for people of a particular profession say accountants, economists or mathematicians which I fit in, hence my in vitation to participate in the recruitment.

The panelist probably has his own candidate too, hence his resolve to highlight the anomaly in your question to convince the others to rate you lower. Nonetheless, if other panelists know what they are doing, they'll consider your overall performance and not just your question. My 2 cents

bobowaja:
Bros allow local man enter the moving bus.

Meanwhile u now welcome me yesterday....if not that you hold ur koboko I for tell you make u enter my corner for important gist

So true true na u and @beaam I see wey wear only boxers and singlet dey toast NNPC chics for estate bah? Issorait, I dey come, let me get my koboko first

Enrypech:

You passed thru back door bah?

Is that not @bobowaja and @beaam I am seeing strolling down our estate as if their father built it?

Where is my koboko pls? These ex-ABT theorists cannot go unpunished for what they put ppl thru.

Enrypech:
Exactly. We don't need pollution, sorry population

When did you enter our hood too?

femokleen:
Who say ABT there ? If I hear ABT ehn... Thunder is preparing to fire

Triumphant entry to (Everyone will be paid) theory, where's the red carpet at?
Who say everyone won't be paid!?

My source just informed me Jarus' payment is being processed and he'd receive it soon.

Bobowaja, chasteguy, teaser, sempumping, enrypech... Clear road! The local champion has alighted from the ABT bus.

The contractors have sourced for funds to pay me las las.

Fare is a goal, APL is a goal.

As long as NNPC don pay me now, dem go pay everybody. Is that clear?

Cheers, Local champion
Alartee
July 11th, 9am
Gt, mechanical engineering.

If you like yourself, no quite this reply o. Else...!

Somebody should lock that gate, no one should allow that local man enter our hood. "Everybody will be paid" kee u dia

mosgoon:
yes, I just got the ODVI invite for the next stage. Also, two of my friends were regretted same time

Ahem!

Gbyms:
God bless you.

Lol, Local man cannot can

femokleen:
Benflash... First of all, have you been paid? I need to check something.

This response of yours is not based on your own bias right? Weidone sir

What makes your most viable explanation tenable? OP was from GMD ba? Issokay, continue

You need to carefully and slowly read my response again to comprehend my own POV... Senior advocate of NLanders
lol

"Just to shoot my shot at your illogical thoughts..."

Get this straight... There is also no law that compels NNPC to pay interviewees. It is entirely at their discretion. This recruitment exercise was properly planned and prepared for, hence, funds were made available for the "project eagle" and fare reimbursement was inclusive.

The payment pattern observed so far has been characterized mostly by date of interview and it would make more sense, require less stress and save time to pay candidates serially rather than skip some ppl at random.
I know some ppl (5 in all) who wrote their accnt details before and after mine on the same page and have been paid. I'm certain a lot of those who haven't received their payment will have a similar case like mine.

Would the contractors (according to you) purposely skip some names on the same page of the list to pay later? Since everyone would be paid! (Note that some skipped names aren't serially the last set on the list)
Relate to this!

Like I earlier mentioned, read my response carefully to comprehend my POV.

"Local champion only dished out an info to constructively advice local men to remain calm while awaiting APL and not bug themselves over the reason why they've been paid or attach any seriousness to the theories propounded on the thread cos all na for fun.


I didn't respond to the post to back any useless theory okay!

Open your eyes! I wrote this in the post your quoted... Only NNPC knows why there's a divide!
Obekishibekeshe

@bolded, is exactly where I disagree with your line of thought as you clearly made it look as if the OP was advocating for alertees when he was clearly trying to explain why not everyone is getting paid at the same time; he even went further to state that everyone will eventually be paid. So your statement about him trying to appeal to a particular divide which prompted your unnecessary barb disguised as advice indicates that you didn't comprehend his POV. You accuse him of being too serious with analysis of TP payment when he was clearly trying to provide an answer to the question most people and their sauces could not answer (the word 'fun' is subjective, do you know if he was also catching fun too, 'izzit' your seriousness?)

So let me ask you this, how has saying contractors were making the payments and would eventually pay everyone made people uneasy hence eliciting your advice? (note, he clearly indicated his explanation was not cast in stone) Then you went ahead to subtly encourage the people you were advising to join the theory train in the name of catching fun; theories that have actually been the bane of the same uneasiness that allegedly prompted your 'advice for calm' in the first place, do you now see the hypocrisy in your position? 'Wehdone sir.'

I am done talking about this. Moving on...

femokleen:
All of you jumping on this have been paid I guess, trying to make yourselves feel at ease (taking the NL theory on the divide matter too serious). This has been dissected sometimes back on this thread, the names of those on the narration are staffs and not contractors. Your replies or quotes cannot pacify NNPC to dash you APL aswear! Why not hold your money, enjoy it and await the APL.
Government contracts have mobilization fees and all.... if the contractors as you believe are sourcing to pay applicants, why have they not completed the payment for the ppl who haven't received alert till date after several batches of reimbursement (for all the dates that have been massively paid, NLanders as a case study)? Why skipping the rest to pay other dates incompletely also? I pray a lot of you people don't have High BP when APL eventually drops sha. You better flex your pay and just remain hopeful, not justifying why you have been paid.
And if you wish to join the band wagon of the theorists like me, do so lightly on whatever divide. It's all for fun and not the extra seriousness y'all are attaching.
Cheers

First of all, you need to comprehend people's POV before you start responding and not responding based on your own personal bias.

1. All sauces here could not explain why ppl are being randomly selected for payment, this was the most viable explanation and has no bearing whatsoever with any theory not to talk of APL.

2. Sourcing for funds automatically implies that funds are limited, hence not all will get paid at the same time. When funds are limited, it is only normal to skip some ppl at random and pay others. There is no law that enforces them to follow interview dates or names on same list serially. It is entirely at their discretion.

3. The names of those ppl on the narration are staff...Do you know them personally or you are still making reference to their LinkedIn profile which they can choose not to update after leaving NNPC? I suggest you look at their LinkedIn profile again to see how 'scanty' it looks, hinting abandonment. (I know a lot of ppl whose profile shows they are still working where they left 10years ago, so hold that profile with a pinch of salt)

4. Most govt. contracts don't have mobilisation fee (that's why they are govt., you either choose to mobilise funds yourself upon receiving the contract award to show commitment, then follow them up for disbursement of funds, or they award it to someone else.)

Please if you don't understand what people are discussing, it won't hurt to ask questions. No one is dragging any useless theory with you.

Ebenaba:
Forgetfulness, Incompetency, approach adopted, weeding criteria; it could be anything
What I gave was just an opinion anyway

You have answered yourself, so let's leave the 'logical' argument aside.

Ebenaba:
I beg to differ. I believe every transaction must have a description and it will be quite logical to place the name of the staff that authorised the transaction in this.

Goodluck explaining why some payments have no name in the narration.

Eggovic:
He said the contractors source for their money, hence the contractors are the ones paying us,but why do we see the likes of King ayam, farouq, and Lazarus who are all staff of nnpc in the alert description?

Uhm! This is 9ja where the staff of a company can hijack the contract meant to be awarded to an external contractor leveraging on insider information. Secondly, they could just be ex-staff of NNPC who have refused to update their LinkedIn profile to reflect so (this is an unverified guess but it is not impossible)

Aidelomo:
Good morning folks...hope you all slept well...
this is no theory,but pure fact..i have been graciously favored to be working as a contract staff in one of the SBUs,which makes me interact daily with staffs of different sets.while the theories have lasted, the groups' been lively but let me throw some input from what i've gathered so far.
1. some staffs working now were paid T-fare, some weren't as confirmed from one just now cos i'm in the office..he specifically said him and some colleagues discussed it recently and while he got,some said they didn't get but they are all working now in the NNPC for over 15 years.
2.one other staff said their set wasn't paid at all, perhaps he wasn't paid
3. some panelists came from this particular SBU cos i can attest that i know over 10-20 of them that left from here with 3 of my bosses among..it will interest you to know i had 2 of them on my panel with one being the chairman sef who recognized me when he saw me back at the office when i couldn't even recognize him,and the other one who was transferred back to Towers from this SBU in GHR dept.
4.they say everyone will be paid,but i know the Nigerian factor will come to play...
5.Most of them claim they don't have any idea of what is going on,i have tried to draw info from the top ogas even the one that recognized me him being a manager but to no avail,they all keep saying we have passed the recommendation...i heard immediately after the end of the days interview recommendations are sent..so keep your fingers crossed and to those who think not getting alert is akin to automatic employment, calm down and hope..because there is no correlation at all these payments are contracted and the contractors source for their monies to pay before they are reimbursed hence you are seeing peoples name and not NNPC directly making the payments..at least that's what happens where i work..
like i said yesterday i have followed this thread from the beginning but refrained from commenting because all theories were baseless but interesting to read tho..
pls...i'm not here to brag about anything,but just to add my text to calm some nerves that some "non-alertees"as they call themselves are trying raise....good-day all..have a hopeful Wednesday...

@bolded, this answers the question that most other 'sauces' could not. Your source is hereby confirmed 'LEGIT'

souljar:
Lol... Hopefully not. Though I discovered sometime ago that I'd done same with the recruitment at my current workplace. Tried to correct it when another recruitment came up this year... Anyway, your post refreshed the guilt.
You're right, people will vanish.

People will certainly vanish, both those who got and those who didn't. It is just a matter of what percentage.

Uricas:
I studied Chemical engineering and I will say I offer majority of CHM core course including practicals. From Intro to Organic to Inorganic to Physical to Thermo to Analytical Chemistry.
This is the reason why someone who study chemical engineering can work in the Lab, but NNPC is a big organization and I don't think they will take chemical engineer in place of Chemistry graduate.

Perhaps you are "myopically smart" too

Enrypech:
Be careful. Borrowing courses now translates to doing everything abi?

Lol, an engineer who attends classes for you core courses and leaves the electives for you to enable him concentrate on his Engineering courses, what then is left? Abeg e don do.

Enrypech:
Who is trained to do all what a chemist is doing please?. Let me quickly check something

Chemical Engineers borrowed core chemistry courses from your department innit? Let's drop the matter abeg, it is derailing the thread

Jarus:
No doubt about that.

Accounting is the technical field for an accounting firm, for example. Law and accounting are the technical fields for an FIRS (tax authority) while a mechanical engineer will be the support (eg as Head of Maintenance Division) in such organization. Economics will be technical field in an economic or policy research company, while the IT guy will be the support. IT will be the technical field in an Accenture, while the accountant or lawyer is a support. Law is the technical field in a law firm.

That said, in general usage, technical field in most cases refers to STEM - or technology related.

Jarus, it's like it's just you and I. I don't know why sleep has refused to come 1:12am

Urbanist2050:
Only 3 people in Niger State made the cut off. The rest of the slots are there vacant. FCC will have to force NNPC to lower the bar and recruit others.

Where are the Niger people? Don't say you haven't heard anything about your status.

APL will start dropping from 5th August to 9th August.

You can celebrate your Sallah happy or sober.

Believe this or not. The choice is yours.

@bolded, this your sauce casts a doubt on the info you provided today

Urbanist2050:
A non alertees' name was checked and not found on the list of successful candidates. One example is not enough to establish relationship between APL and TF but I feel a sense of obligation to share this information here no matter how it may be interpreted.

Goodluck to us all.

Was your name on the list? Are you an alertee? I wantu check something. (@Gbriel, no vex I just couldn't wait for you to wake up to help us check the something as usual)