₦airaland Forum

WoundedLamb:
Hhm... I really don't know why you're getting aggressive. It's a conversation and we're here to put things into perspective. I read you correctly before disagreeing. I think asking who in Nigeria earns up to the American minimum wage is a wrong approach cause Nigerians don't need to earn American minimum wage. This doesn't mean your position is wrong (I don't know enough about Nigeria to argue that). It only means you need other tools to express that instead minimum wage conversion. The fact that you mentioned purchasing power afterwards as a way of buttressing your point doesn't change the fact that you kicked off wrongly. There shouldn't even be a conversion in the first place.

The factors that make living abroad better include the availability of amenities, security and stability. Out there, you have a better control of your expenses (less probability of emergencies), investments will yield better returns, you have higher utilities, and most importantly, the tendency to earn even more. If you want to compare minimum wages, drive it solely by expenses and not exchange rate. The presence of exchange rates makes every other calculation wrong cause the sample earners are in two different countries. That's just my point.

Those that live in well planned estates in Nigeria and follow basic rules like no deep night trips have slightly less security than those in the US and Co. If we factor in gun crime in America then I'd say both ppl hv the same level of security. Also if someone is living downtown in most North America cities they have less security than those in well planned estates in Nigeria...

Downtown is full of druggies homeless etc

DeepSight:
Technology, Institutions and Information Management.

Technology was pioneered in Africa dear. Google "mali manuscripts" or "Timbuktu manuscripts" news of which broke out few days ago.....

The only areas I agree with you are: institutions and information management - we still have a lot of work to do in those area... in fact we are VERY BACKWARD in those areas.... the average Nigerian is docile and unserious and its affecting our institutions....I hope we get it right soon cos I hate abroad....

DeepSight:
Unless you are joking, this is the type of deluded Afrocentrism that is comparable to those who say Christ was black.

Not that it matters what a random itinerant Jewish rabbi was.

While we know that much of Africa's history has been either erased or stolen by imperialism, this is no grounds to deny all advancement of other peoples.

Which advancement is my question....can you be more specific?? Lots of ppl say UK and Canada and USA is advanced yet wen we ask how exactly, they can't say.

Is it infrastructure?? Nigeria has contracted China Civil Engibeering and Construction Company to build infrastructure all over Nigeria so infrastructure is not a big deal.

So how else are they more developed??

Countries colonised by Britain such as Canada USA Australia and New Zealand are all depressing lonely countries that keep you in the poor/middle class, always working for money and with no social life all the days of ur life...

Someone has shown the fatalities from gun violence in 2 months in USA is more than herdsmen in Nigeria in 6 months....

So how's USA more advanced??

Never mind Quebec(Canada) is currently trying to woo nurses and doctors from Tunisia and the magreb to come work there. Developed country Recruiting from developing country....how ironic....

DeepSight:
Dont get me wrong, I am Afrocentric in my worldview - nonetheless there is little point denying that other peoples have advanced further in this or that specific field of human endeavor. That takes nothing away from Afro pride of identity in my view.

In what area is Europe more advanced? Google "mali manuscripts"... they left out physics and chemistry on in the reporting because they don't want to admit it. So we've proven scientific equality via the mali manuscripts...

So how exactly is Europe "more advanced"....

If its train we hv trains....

MrBroke:
You yourself You are also corrupt, no politician is responsible for your problem, in every country they are corrupt leaders yet people do okay there and some don't.

Thanks for speaking the truth. Also not every single government official in Nigeria is corrupt...

DeepSight:
There is nothing we are going through which Europe has not experienced ten times worse. If everyone had the run away mentality, there would be no great countries in the world.

Europe is not better than or the senior brother of Africa. Pls reorient your thinking

shogsman:
Everytime I see modern slaves here on nairaland worshipping the USA,I always remember what one of my white friend tells me about most Nigerians THEY ARE SLAVES by default,you don't have to chain them to make them inferior.
Having lived in USA I can categorically confirm even Americans acknowledge Thier country's shortcomings and do not dare praise USA when it comes to international relations and mostly definitely do not worship them like you Nigerians do.even black Americans protest Thier government involvement in virtually everything they get into.
Trump called you people a shithole and he was 100% right about that.
The same USA has over 400biological weapon land in over 40 countries.
They are currently bombing Somalia here in Africa
The same USA with the highest case of racism in the world
They killed gadaffi and turned Libya a country that has once had one of the highest standard of living in the middle east to rubbles.
The same USA invaded and killed and estimated 2milliom people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria,serbia,Sudan.
The same USA destabilized Liberia their own former colony and it is now one of the poorest nation on earth now
The same USA Which controls Thier big techs that in turn controls your daily lives here and what you get to see and not see on social media
The same USA has started a war with over 90 countries and started wars that all of the world combined.
The same USA who supplied isreal with weapons to kill children in Palestine .
China has 20 times more investment in Africa than USA and has never invaded or kept any Africans as slaves, but foolish Nigerians will still stupidly say china is bad.
The only thing worth emulating in USA are some of the nice civilians living there,the rest is as filthy as it gets.
There is a reason why USA is the most hated country in the world.

Well said!

ifeoma2611:
Vladimir Putin's will surely fail woefully on his bad and negatives plans for all over the world just because of his hatred for United States of America, and America nahhh your great grandfathers almost on everything's


United States of America and the west countries are definitely coming for you Vladimir Putin just watch and see

Glad to see a babe talking politics

Let me tell u small...

United States came about as a result of overpopulation in England... hence they (the British) committed genocide in North America against over 200 tribes and took it over. Same as Australia and Canada all colonised by the British...an evil seed cannot bear good fruit...hence Russia is more morally upright than USA and England

SlyDev:
Every tribe have apprenticeships system that work, they are not just as loud as igbos, every things you boast of others have done it before you.

Yoruba enrich themselves with civilisations like the Europeans but at the same time have respect and forbearance like the Japanese.

The oyo and yoruba civilization is more advanced than that of the western European savages

Oduduwa707:
Very, very true... Very disgusting Savages!

The western European is a savage in need of aboriginal and African civilization.

dettolgel:
Nigerians are lazy no one wants to work. I know of very few in the diaspora that brought money in to invest in this business. Behold the people in charge here mismanaged the funds and grounded the business. If not the staff the authority using all form of ways to extort businesses more especially if the owner is in abroad.

My brother Nigeria is a failed country the earlier we accept it the better for everyone.

The funny thing is the laziest ones among them are the ones who come online shouting "Buhari is a disaster".... the average Nigerian has a bad attitude to work....and specialise in destroying businesses

[quote author=wwwihy post=110951961]The current situation of Ochanja Roundabout, Onitsha, Anambra State.

Where are the people from this State? Do you care about your health at all?

We find things like this across the country but our people like to focus on the wrong things forgetting their immediate environment.

The current situation of Ochanja Roundabout, Onitsha, Anambra State.

Where are the people from this State? Do you care about your health at all?

We find things like this across the country but our people like to focus on the wrong things forgetting their immediate environment. pic.twitter.com/UVyPzwlE5U

— Tenderbiggie Eru O'Bodo #RenewedHope (@BayoAdedosu) March 11, 2022

[/quote]Soludo audio governor

Ademola47:
https://punchng.com/brt-driver-told-bamise-fine-girl-its-only-you-ill-pick-brother-of-slain-22-year-old/

MEN are the problem of this world. Always putting families into mourning

brandsoncharlie:
You're not making any sense in what you are saying, blaming men for everything.

The evidence proves it.... go to any police station and get the statistics - men overwhelm in all crimes

Kingcalls:
U really hv a low IQ ..I dont argue with low IQ

Its confirmed in police records around the world in every major city.

BabaRamota1980:
OP, the fantasy of everyman is to be with a young woman. You may not be dating a young woman but you nonetheless desire one. It goes also that every young woman desire to be sorrounded in opulence and wealth and so they do not turn down offer from older men with means, even when society condemns it as greed.

Certain things are acts of natural balance, should be acknowledged, not condemned.

Well said!

Most young girls don't wanna settle down tho...so just keep her in ur concubine....

Miosia2022:
Evil communication corrupt good manners stay away from such friends with little or no regard for morality time will always tell i ve been in academics quiet some time i see teachers messing around in teens few died mysteriously most are struggling wit notin to show this girls grow to despise decency cos someone who is to teach them taught them wrongly flee my brother fastest way to end wrongly

Too much religion. Its his mating choice and there's nothing evil about it. The middle aged man is going for who he finds attractive. The girls too are going for who they find attractive.

bolagabriella:
Op, nothing illegal in what your friend is doing. You have issues with it because of your moral values which is obviously different from those of your friends. You just have to decide how deeply does your friend's moral affects yours.

your friend go for this kind of girls because:
1. Most of them are gullible and innocent so he can easily manipulate them
2. Most of them are about to have canal knowledge, so your friends likes it that he is the one that is introducing them to it
3. Your friend is looking for a young girl that is malleable so that he can mold her into whoever he wants her to be
4. He is controlling
5. Or it can be as simple as he just finds them attractive. Note: some girls can be way matured than their age. Does he go for the matured ones or the immatured ones?

This is based on knowledge i get from men like your friend that wanted to date me when i was as young as 16 years.

As a hypocritical Nigerian u missed thr main reason. D young girls are HOT and ATTRACTIVE with STANDING BOOBS and hot bodies

iKON11:
Jealous? Your thought process must be very messed up for you to think like this. 18y/o I can easily fvck if I want to?
You know there are two types of men that sees fun in this:
1. The very stingy ones who can't date their mates for fear of responsibilities and
2. The ones that are too bad in bed so they choose girls they're two times older than. These ones only feel pains and nothing else.

You speak like a drunkard. For ur point 1. guys don't date their mates unless they don't hv options....it's their female mates that try to dump their responsibilities on him....a 35 yo woman should be bringing money and not expecting d guy to spend on her.

For ppint 2, una go just dey deceive unaselves. Guys choose young girls for youth sex appeal and vitality. U just jealous. Cheer up bro it's nature.

Iyaebe:
I know you are their chairman on this type of issue

Na me be the chairman oh....I go for 18 - 21 max....that's wen girls are sweetest

WibusJaga:


I'm more interested in proactive measures they've taken to avoid future occurrence of such embarrassing situation. &Not excuses.

Does proactive exist in the mind of some Nigerians?? There are still some proactive ones in Nigeria sha

irunoko:
it is because he's implicitly condescending by saying Women should focus on family while the men should go out to work Saying that is the only way a family can be healthy.if she wasn't made to work she's not supposed to have brains,hands or legs.shes supposed to have only a face, vagina and breasts

Nice response and I love it....

NaijirianKing:
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Na shame dey catch you so?? Then do something to end it.....talk sense into your fellow men....

brandsoncharlie:
Continue to follow bad boys they will Bleep you up. Don't stay at place and work for your money.

You are not getting the point. Take for example the brt incident. A happy family trains their daughter only for some guy to kill off their daughter. Yes it's not all men but it is MEN. Men are the problem of society. They are killers.... they kill not just women they also kill themselves....

Have you ever heard of female boko haram soldiers, female terrorists Most robbers, pedophiles, murdered etc are all men.

Men are the problem of this world.

Men are the senseless ones who do anything for women.

safarigirl:
Labour Market has always been favourable and is still favorable to men. More men are in higher positions of power, more men are still billionaires, more men are still economically advantaged, but even more men have become totally useless as well.

They cannot even enter farm like their fathers before them and make themselves useful. They sit by and allow women to go out of the home and hustle.

You are talking of governors and I am talking about the ordinary people. People in corporate organizations are not more than 30-40% of the population. A majority of Nigerians are artisans, traders, farmers and small business owners and of that number lots are women, because a lot of men are slackers.

Atiku ran a loan company some years back and came with the report that women were more likely to pay off their loans than men. You know why? Because most women actually used the money gotten to help their business, while most of the men used it to marry new wives

These are the sort of men you think gender equality did bad? People who cannot think beyond their libido.

I agree with you joor MEN CANNOT THINK BEYOND THEIR LIBIDO.

They are also responsible for 98% if crimes in society and use the proceeds of the crimes on women.

They are murderers, kidnappers, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers, etc

flamingREED:
A vengeful woman just burnt people to death in Australia. I'm told that when a woman wants to deal with creation even Satan sits to take notes.

How about that?

The ratio is 100:1

100 occurrences by men to 1 occurrence by a woman. Women do stuff like this for revenge or greed.

While men can even kill themselves over a woman bcis una mumu well well, release female prisoners like chidinma because u lot are stewpid, and do all sorts like murderers, kidnappers, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers, and boko haram and spend the proceeds on women.

Hoe many boko haram soldiers are female?

brandsoncharlie:
You ladies should continue to follow anyhow men because of greed and selfish interest of money. This is just the beginning.

Men are responsible for every evil in society- murderers, kidnappers, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers, etc

flamingREED:
The future is in God's hands.
And no where in the scriptures does it say he has reserved it for fems.

But it does say that 10 women would grab a man's garment just to bear his name.

As a woman I will bear no murderers, kidnappers, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers name. Thanks but no thanks.

Kingcalls:
Thats the simple effect of women's liberation ... women have equality and u think with equality, that the Labour Market will remain the same like our forefathers..... when men were able to take total care of the family was when Labour Market had 95% men ..now , its like 60/40 ... so more men will naturally find it more difficult to get a job or promotion

There's a reason y God made man to Labour and women to stay and take care of the home ... its simply to avoid the destruction of the family setting that God created ... u expect the man to solely provide when he now knows women now have the opportunity to earn a living just as men ... it will only make some men lazier naturally....

Again, most women that earn challenge their husbands authority cos they feel they dont need the man if he decides to leave or stop taking care of the family...this is what female liberation comes with...

If everyone is rich, then the world will crumble cis there will be no one to operate the foundation of work...

Thats y I say , a man and a woman can't be equals... a woman should act like a vice president will act towards the president... even if he listens to u, his decision should be final ... disagreeing with him simply means the marriage is bound to collapse with time...


Imagine a deputy governor challenging the governor all the time, the state will suffer and the governor will most likely want his deputy removed ...

Men are responsible for 98% of murders, kidnaps, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers, etc

Kingcalls:
Women were created by God to take care of the home...its in their DNA ...women are just forcing themselves to be what they naturally are not capable of being ...u cant cheat nature

And men were created by god to be murderers, kidnappers, ritualists, yahoo Boys, armed robbers, etc

blueAgent:
I cannot stop laughing at your delusion, wakeup.

Tell Duncan Smith to feed you with his faeces this afternoon as that's what could make you become your white gods

obynzo:
One thing i always believe in is being realistic. The guys like you that love to hype Lagos as number one capital do this out of ignorance, If not for the Fintech revolution of the likes of Flutterwave and Co Lagos FDI would have drastically dwindled. There are a lot of factors that is making investment in Lagos dwindle. First apart from the falling crude oil revenue which has limited Nigeria's risk rating, there is the issue of ease of doing business which is a general problem, but it is so bad in Lagos, the multiple taxations alone is enough to kill business and the high cost of real estate which to me is very hard to explain how a state that has a very low per capita income compared to the biggest cities in Africa has one of the highest real estate cost in the world(some places in VI and Ikoyi charge rent in USD). Manufacturing is all but dead in Lagos and don't get me started with these guys that just built a factory, because in the next few years if our purchasing power is still at this level the company will reconsider, just as P&G did few years back with their factory in Agbara.
The only annoyance is that Ogun state has failed to be smart and proactive if not they would have been the biggest beneficiaries and people will see the reality of how bad policies are killing business in Lagos. If any state in close proximity with Lagos gets it right business wise you will see massive exodus of business and people from Lagos.

I agree with you that Lagos is overrated. Number one it's overcrowded number two the income does not match up with expenses which is a sign of a failing/failed state