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immortalcrown:
Your logic is so fallacious and weak.

Mungo Park cannot discover River Niger because he was not the first person to see River Niger. People knew and entered River Niger before his arrival. He only gave the river the name. Another thing he did was traveling along the river, from the beginning of the river to where the river joins an ocean. No other report claims someone else did it before him. So, he can be credited for being the first to ascertain the beginning and the end of the river. Instead of saying he discovered the river, I rather say he discovered the length (beginning and the end) of the river.

But in the case of killing of twins, someone must have initiated the idea of stopping it. Existing history says Slessor is the one. If you say she is not the one, who is the one? Your claim about Slessor is an assumption. You using your common sense for the claim does not make the claim a fact.

@killing twins. The existing history you refer to
was written by the British. Its the conqueror that writes the history books not the conquered.... that's why they wrote its British people that did everything. Its a colonial government and you can't challenge what they wrote or put in the curriculum which is why up till today it still hasn't been changed.

immortalcrown:
Your logic is so fallacious and weak.

Mungo Park cannot discover River Niger because he was not the first person to see River Niger. People knew and entered River Niger before his arrival. He only gave the river the name. Another thing he did was traveling along the river, from the beginning of the river to where the river joins an ocean. No other report claims someone else did it before him. So, he can be credited for being the first to ascertain the beginning and the end of the river. Instead of saying he discovered the river, I rather say he discovered the length (beginning and the end) of the river.

But in the case of killing of twins, someone must have initiated the idea of stopping it. Existing history says Slessor is the one. If you say she is not the one, who is the one? What you say about Slessor is an assumption. You using your common sense to say it does not make a fact.

The reports you are reading are the British report. Of course no other report can say otherwise because it was a British military government if you say otherwise you could get shot and killed.

It saddens me that you are mentally enslaved just like millions more and undoing this will take generations.

I used to think colonialism was a friendly act. It's not and it's the use of military power to subjugate a people. Any attempt to repeal the military government is quenched by further use of military force. ..

immortalcrown:
White men told me all these things.

Who told you that Slessor did not stop killing of twins? Who were you told stopped the killing of twins?
Answer my own questions.

The same common sense, inductive and deductive reasoning that informed me mungo Park did not discover river niger (makes it look as if blacks are unintelligent)....is the same way I realized slessor did not stop it.

The whole Nigeria and the whole West Africa was not killing twins and the Nigerians residing around calabar are not senseless. Someone doesn't have to sail from Europe in a colonial government that aimed at genocide of Nigerians to stop the killing of twins.

Seems ur just arguing for argument sake and my time alloted for this is up.

immortalcrown:
You gave an assumption. An assumption is not an account. Account means a fact. If Slessor is not the person that stopped the killing of twins in Calabar, who did it?

Who taught that slessor stopped the killing of twins? Was it the Nigerian account of events or the British account. I've already told you that it's the colonial government that said it must be taught and that its not true ...instead of believing the Nigerian account you believe the British account.

Answer to your question who did: calabar is not Nigeria. West Africa is not Nigeria. West Africans and Nigerians together stopped the killing of twins. Its not something one person did.

David Lammy, Tottenham MP calls this "white savior" which the British have been promoting for centuries. It was the basis of mental subjugation of blacks and has been exposed.

Hope this answers your question.

Also just think about what I said going forward. Latin American sailors didn't come, Middle Eastern sailors didn't come.... it must be British ppl that comes to show black man the way. Its a lie its not true

immortalcrown:
Forget who said Slessor did it. What have your fellow Nigerians told about the stopping of killing of twins? Give your own account of how the killing of twins stopped. If you give your own account, I will investigate it to believe or doubt it. But if you do not give your own account, you have not point against who says Slessor did it.

I have given you the account. Its a simple matter. You have already been mentally enslaved so can't convince you otherwise.

At others reading that want mental liberation please sue the Ministry of education and enact the changes you want.

immortalcrown:
One, why did you say "If Calabar people were killing twins"? Do Calabar people say it did not happen?
Two, You claim Africans would not wait for her to come all the way from Europe. Didn't Africans wait for people to come all the way from Europe to start formal education in Africa? Didn't Africans wait for people to come all the way from Europe to introduce electricity and computer in Africa?

I said "even if" meaning let's even just assume it happened, in that case I'm sure not every calabar person subscribed to it. God would have well given a calabar or Jos person a Damascus experience or someone from ghana to do sclessors job than God having slessor sailing from England to do it. I hope I'm making sense

immortalcrown:
I derive no joy in returning insults. I just want to educate you. But it seems your sentiment overrides your reasoning. It is true that charity begins at home. But some times, you can do good outside without being able to do the same good at home. It could be that the people in your home resisted you while the people outside supported you. So, whatever evil that happens in Slessor's country should not be used to condemn any good thing she did for Africa. You can give an outsider a good support instead of giving that support to your family member if you realize that the outsider will value the support more than your family member.

Forget this your sentiment. Try to sound reasonable. If you are sure killing of twins was not stopped by her, who stopped it? Until you have another explanation of how it stopped, the history that says Slessor stopped the killing remains true. How can you say the history is a lie when you have no other history as the truthful one?

Your claim about school curriculum is logical and factual. But your claim about Slessor holds no water until you explain how the killing of twins stopped.

Pls read my last comment. Let me ask you, who said Mary slessor stopped the killing of twins?? It wasn't Nigerians it was the colonial administration that said it. Colonial administration means Nigeria was taken over by military force in 1856 and if they say slessor stopped killing of twins you dare not say otherwise.

I'm not in for trading insults too and I welcome a Factual conversation with you.

immortalcrown:
You are just ranting nonsense here. Instead of presenting facts, you are saying I have been brainwashed. The evil things that happen in Europe do not justify the ones that happen in Africa. Are you saying killing of twins is not barbaric? If a person from Europe stops an evil act in Africa, such a person should be thanked. That the person could not stop an evil act in his own country does not mean you should condemn the good thing he did in your own country. What you should do in this argument is to factually prove that she did not stop killing of twins.

Factual proof: within Nigeria, there are 36 states. Even if caalabar ppl were killing twins itvwasnt every single person in calabar, people from calabar, all 36 states of Nigeria, Ghana etc could have stopped the killing of the twins.

It does not take a "white" woman sailing from Europe to stop it.

That's my point they ve already made you think less if yourself....

There was strong witchcraft and barbarism in europe at the time.

nb: God doesn't need anyone to spread the gospel including europeans.... Paul wad converted without any preaching. Check the British record in Canada....Google Indian residential schools...this was the same time Nigeria was being colonised.

immortalcrown:
You are just ranting nonsense here. Instead of presenting facts, you are saying I have been brainwashed. The evil things that happen in Europe do not justify the ones that happen in Africa. If a person from Europe stops an evil act in Africa, such a person should be thanked. The the person could not stop an evil act in his own country does not mean you should condemn the good thing he did in your own country.

Your brainwashing is complete and sealed. They did not stop the evil in their own continent two of which I mentioned before coming to Africa to do it?? They just woke up one day sailed fair to come and stop the killing of twins.... the brainwashing has eaten deep into your mind....

It's really unfortunate what has happened in Africa. The minds of Africans are held by a strong colonial grip.

immortalcrown:
This is why we that are wise say Nigeria has not gained any independence.

But crediting Mary Slessor for stopping killing of twins might be right. The parts that killed twins later change the barbaric act after being influenced by Christianity.

You have been brainwashed by the same colonial system which I think was actually quite effective. the druids of england were know for witchcraft and are still known for witchcraft up till this day. The battle of Normandy in Europe involved alignment of moon phases (which has to do with witchcraft) before striking enemy forces. The Europeans are barbaric. Do you know what the english did in Canada in collaboration with the Catholic Church - in the Indian Residential School system? If you know you will know slessor did not stop killing of twins. Just google indian residential schools.

The PRIMARY GOAL of colonization was not theft of resources but to get you to think less of yourself by creating a "more intelligent -- less intelligent" relationship between europeans and africans in your mind. Thats what they did to the native indians and called them "savages" which is the same thing they tried to suggest in calabar.

Also western europeans are not the gate keepers of christianity - they were not "good missionaries" - they came on a colonial project.

Moderators pls move this to front page...

Since 1960, the curriculum has not been changed causing at least 3 generations to grow up in white worship and inferiority complex. Nigerians arise and file a lawsuit (or arbitration case) compelling the Federal Ministry of Education to desist from:

- Teaching children mungo Park discovered river Niger

- Include Nigerian and African scientists, mathematicians, and philosophers and global inventors in the curriculum in addition to the European ones.

- Teaching that Wilberforce stopped slave trade, slessor stopped killing of twins are all lies as there are Nigerians who championed these causes as well and it was not done by only one person.

Islie:
https://fij.ng/article/russia-continues-to-bomb-ukraine-despite-promised-ceasefire/

Western Europe = the Dark Continent harboring white monkeys

Africa = the hope of of mankind

kelvindj98:
It is true. Black monkeys are truly daft

Europe = the dark continent
White monkeys = western European savages

White monkeys are quite daft. They claimed science and technology as theirs which is a big lie. Modern day science and technology was advanced by researchers of 190 countries in the world not just the primitive savages if western europe (the Dark continent)

MangekyoAlt:
Stupid USA They are now begging Iran to halt their plans of building Nuclear weapons. If this was 10 years ago, they would've been threatening Iran with sanctions, and not trying to reason or dialogue with them.
But since Trump had meted all the sanctions he and all foolish Americans could think of on iran, including cutting them from SWIFT, they no longer have any leverage over Iran. The only thing they can actually do to stop Iran from building Nukes is to invade them or dialogue with them. NOTE: Iran before being slapped with sanctions by the west NEVER contemplated anything about building Nukes. After the sanctions, their economy survived, they now started their nuke program, angering the west. But the west can't really do much anymore since they've unleashed all the sanctions in their arsenal on them.

Imagine you're in your father's house. You're a party lover. But each time you want to go to a party, maybe at a club, your father Threatens you that if you do, he will take the phone he bought for you, all the clothes, kick you away from his house (disowning you).

One day, you go to a party, hoping he wouldn't find out. You happened to be wrong. He got to know, somehow, and carried out all the threats he's been making. He took away all the things he bought for you and kicked you away.
You sufferred but somehow survived with the help of a friend. You now own your own house.

If let's say one day, a friend of yours invites you to a party, would you say..... "I will not go because my dad threatened me before that he'll kick me out of his house the moment he sees you in any party?" The answer is no. Your dad carried out all his threats on you already. He no longer has any leverage over you anymore. If someday he even sees you coming out of a night club, I doubt if he'll be able to do anything since there's nothing he can do to you again. We'll why I'm I saying this?

Boris Johnson while speaking for the west, immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine, bragged openly that they will cripple the economy of the Russian federation. They are trying their best now to make it happen. But the thing is, If Russia actually manages to survive this colossal sanctions that the west AKA the U.S. and lapdog have meted on her [b]which I know they will with the help of china, [/b]THEN IT IS FINISHED!
The west will no longer have any leverage on Russia. They will have nothing that they will be able to use to threaten russia again if russia decides to do anything that is severely against their interest.
The west seem to be enjoying sanctioning russia now, I hope they don't end up regretting it in the future when the bear comes for their coconut heads. Bunch of murthafuckers

@bolded with the help of China and Africa Russia will overcome. China has very strong ties with Africa. China has strong ties with Russia. Russia has been building ties with Africa. Western Europe has nothing. So they will eventually be isolated.

anonimi:
You must be feeling superior that almost everything you are using is made by the people who own CNN & BBC, not so

I responded to this comment. Pls see it above.

anonimi:
You must be feeling superior that almost everything you are using is made by the people who own CNN & BBC, not so

Not true. There are 190 countries in the world.... the western European countries due to military take overs and the resulting power, named all advanves from all 190 countries after themselves.

Electricity was not invented by a white man sameas phones and computers

anonimi:
Is that why Europeans are scrambling to get to Africa through risky journeys on the Mediterranean Sea, Libya and the Sahara desert
What do you smoke?

Their countries were unsettled by the European savages so they have every right to cross if they want. Moreover the number of people that tries that are actually very very few. It's western media that amplifies those stories to make them feel superior and to make you feel inferior. Isn't it on cnn and BBC that u read about those migrant stories

AntiTerrorists:
Where are those shouting Western propaganda anytime a news doesn't favour their religion ?

Should we also call this "Western propaganda" since it was not from Aljazeera ?

In Mali, France arms rebel groups who kill civilians.

In Nigeria, UK and EU allegedly groom and fund Boko Haram.

Have you ever asked yourself why there is no terrorism in Europe (not even one european country - thats odd)? And why "terrorists" only operate in resource rich regions of the world?

Europe = the Dark Continent

SATANICALLY:
https://www.channelstv.com/2022/03/04/global-terrorism-index-nigerias-ranking-improves-as-boko-haram-killings-dip-by-72-report/

In Mali, France arms rebel groups who kill civilians.

In Nigeria, UK and EU allegedly groom and fund Boko Haram.

Have you ever asked yourself why there is no terrorism in Europe (not even one european country - thats odd)? And why "terrorists" only operate in resource rich regions of the world?

Europe = the Dark Continent

ChangetheChange:

Putin fears for his life, he doesn't even trust his closet allies

France is not a Russian ally.

Iyaebe:
God knows I can't live abroad, holidays are OK. I'm the only one who strongly refused to study abroad among my siblings, I don't know if I'm alone on this.lol

The western European savages convinced Africans to think less of themselves thars why they all trooping out to lesser lands in Europe (the Dark Continent)....while record number of Europeans are coming to Africa through the backdoor.....

This Canada is an overexpensive antisocial shithole.... yet pictures of snow etc continues to entice people....

naptu2:
See previous thread here: Ukraine: EU To Ban Media Orgainisations Russia Today And Sputnik




https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60617365

I have attached pictures showing the map of Africa and the map of Western Europe. Which is bigger? Which has more resources?
We have to sue the Federal Ministry of Education of Nigeria for brainwashing Nigerians that they are inferior to these western europeans e.g. by teaching that Mungo park discovered river niger. Europe is the Dark Continent.

Also they did not invent science or maths or physics and are not more sophisticated than the rest of mankind. There are 190 countries in the world - it is not possible that only 5 poor countries in western europe made all the inventions as we have been taught. Inventions and science were done by all scientists from all 190 countries.

You are rushing out of Africa while they are rushing in. France no gree commot. US no gree dey their lane.

Aketi2:
The only state with sensible leaders. All our SE governors except Soludo are not worthy to lift the shoes of Sanwolu.

They should come and arrest me for comparing them to Sanwolus' shoes.

Soludo never do anything yet...he is just making mouth for now....no results yet....

Mooh247:





You sanction them, they sanction you back


Let Putin turn off Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline to Europe, let's see if Europe without Electricity powered by gas turbines are better than normal Nigerians without power shouting up NEPA

Let's see if they can withstand winter cold without Russian gas

Now all satellite company would have to pay through their noses to use NASA or Space X lunch vehicles..... America is truly an evil genius and masters of the game



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Nigerian army is still very weak and Nigeria can be reinvaded just as was done in 1856.

nairaman66:
I will take Nigeria serious the day this NASS is scrapped!

A bunch of idiots sit down half asleep and make N15m monthly lmao

felixotalu1:
unfortunately no matter how you want to see it they are still advanced than we are atleast for now,that is the reality.

Your brainwashing is complete and your subordinate fate is sealed.

NLPoliceWoman:
Seun Mynd44 Justwise Dominique.
Rule 1.

The western European savages violate all the rules so shut your mouth and stop supporting your oppressors.

I'm sure when they call you monkey you say "yes sir"

I cannot be stopped in restoring the dignity of the African.

The western European savages convinced africans to think less of themselves and it is working on your mind. That's the same thing they did to the native Indians.

There are 190 countries in the world many of who have more inventions than the 5 imperialists of western europe.

Is it really possible that out of 190 nations of the world that it's only 5 from western Europe that God blessed with "superior brains".... can't you smell that it's a lie??

Even many African countries are more technologically advanced than the 5 western European countries.

Iraq, Qatar, Jordan, all hv finer scientists than the western European ones.... be proudly African you are capable and have so many inventors and scientists and mathematicians way before the western European savages had a clue what science was all about!

The western European savages convinced africans to think less of urself and it has worked on your mind. That's the same thing they did to the native Indians.

There are 190 countries in the world many of who have more inventions than the 5 imperialists of western europe.

Even many African countries are more technologically advanced than the 5 western European countries.

Iraq, Qatar, Jordan, all hv finer scientists than the western European ones

The western European savages convinced africans to think less of urself and it has worked on your mind. That's the same thing they did to the native Indians.

There are 190 countries in the world many of who have more inventions than the 5 imperialists of western europe.

Is it really possible that out of 190 nations of the world that it's only 5 from western Europe that God blessed with "superior brains".... can't you smell that it's a lie??

Even many African countries are more technologically advanced than the 5 western European countries.

Iraq, Qatar, Jordan, all hv finer scientists than the western European ones

5thcolm:
Take the western world away from you life situation. What would you be doing now... probably hunting or maybe about to be used for sacrifice. You can't bend reality. The West can take us out of the equation and still live almost as civilized as they are today. You keep saying western thieves claim ownerships. Why is it that Africans didn't invent anything of note before the west came. Why didn't we have electricity, cars or airplane before the west came? Now you are claiming they stole what we never had.
Only thing the west stole from us is artifacts like Benin bronze, nothing else. Any contributions by an African individual was cause of learning the western knowledge

What you call "western knowledge" is not really western. Is it English? We hv our own languages. Maths? Mathematicians existed in africa before the european savages came which is why mali was able to extract gold and process it and produce ceramics - same in nigeria ethipia and egypt.

Maths and science cannot be the sole province of 5 western european countries when there are 190 countries in the world - what you are saying is God gave special brain to 5 western european countries out of the 190 countries of the world - cant you see its a lie?

I feel sad for you because your brainwashing is complete and sealed.