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klax:
And that was how Buhari gave his economic blue print before he came to power Pls bro always think before you talk don't talk before you think pls no offense it's an advise.

If you can't comprehend something don't go around quoting people.

Read the original thread
Read what others have written
Read mine again

Then delete your post.

Nothing stops him from rolling out his list of ministers before the end of this year.
He should start telling us his economic blue print and the so called restructuring he talked about.


Let's face the business and leave out the jokes.

Alkanelly:
I have bill of material which was around 3.5M but I find it to be inaccurate, I am the buying the materials and bring it to site. I had my dad and cousin over see the project in my absence. I am just concern with how much money the housing is taking.

If you were given a bill of #3.5M then that should be okay for the first milestone of a twin 2 bedroom.
If there be any variation it should be within #300k, which solely depends on how you source for materials, logistics, off loading (loading) of materials to your site and planning.




Please if I may ask, what size of rods did they use for your columns (pillars)?
Your previous pix of your building foundation was not entirely clear from my end.

USBILAL:
ATIKU, THE PROVIDER OF LABOUR AND SERVICES? A BRIEF CASE STUDY OF AMERICA UNIVERSITY OF NIGERIA

By Akin Omoz-Oarhe

Why are you always led by the nose ? Can’t you do your independent reasoning? Just imagine Atiku telling you that he is a provider of labour and services through his various investments and you are now jumping all over the place repeating same. Can’t you ask what labour he has provided and who are the beneficiaries of the services defender. Can’t you ask how the “services” he has provided over the years, improved the life of the down trodden? What a shame. Let me help you here, taking a glance at one one of his best known investments, the America University of Nigeria.

Atiku owns America University of Nigeria, Yola, Adamawa State. Adamawa is his home state. Constituting the Board are:

BOARD MEMBERS.
**1. Archbishop Desmond Tutu. Non-Nigerian
**2. Dr. John Campbell. Non-Nigerian
**3. Dr. Bamanga Tukur. Nigerian
**4. Dr. Louis Goodman. Non-Nigerian
**5. Mr. Gabriele Volpi. Non-Nigerian
**6. Alhaji Tajudeen Dantata. Nigeria
**7. H.E. Prof. Gilbert Bukenya. Non-Nigerian
**8. Prof. William Bertrand. Non-Nigerian
**9. Vice Admiral D. J. Ezeoba. Nigerian
**10.Bishop Matthew Kukah. Nigerian
**11. Dr. Anna Mokgokong. Non-Nigerian
**12. Alhaji Adamu Abubakar. Nigerian
**13. Chief (Dr.) Mike Adenuga. Nigerian
**14. Dr. Peter Lewis. Non-Nigerian
**15. Mr. Jon Freeman. Non-Nigerian
**16. Mr. Ike Chioke. Nigerian
**17. Mr. Akin Kekere-Ekun Nigerian
**18. Dr. Dawn Dekle. Non-Nigerian

Can you believe that 56% of the Board membership are non-Nigerians. Why would Atiku think that Nigerians cannot totally run his University.

LIST OF PRESIDENTS
Since inception of the University, there have been four Presidents which are equivalent to our Vice Chancellors. They are
**1. David Huwiler. Non-Nigerian
**2. Michael Smith. Non-Nigerian
**3. Margee Ensign. Non- Nigerian
**4. Dawn Dekle. Non-Nigerian.

Why does Atiku think that Nigerians are good enough to Head his school? Not even one? I can only think out a reason: It is part of human behavior to see in other people what you are. If you are a fraud, you think everyone else is a fraud. To Atiku, all Nigerians are all fraud like him who should never be allowed to Head his institution lest they financially crumble the place.

WHAT BENEFIT DO PARENTS OF ADAMAWA KIDS DERIVE FROM THE SCHOOL?

For a First Degree, The fee is :
Tuition 1,590,000
Boarding 650,000
Meals. 678,300
Technology 70,000
Sports. 50,000
Student Activities 60,000
Health 20,000
e-Books 90,000

TOTAL. 3,208,300 (Three million, Two hundred and eight thousand, three hundred naira only). In addition to this, a student that decides to take an extra course in a semester beyond the 15 credit units for that semester, pays extra N53,000 per credit unit. Note also that the feeding here is for only 42 meals the college would provide. You provide the rest 1050 meals for yourself. In simple term, a student spends over N4m per annum just to be student of Atikus Iniversity.

Adamawa is not a particularly rich state. Most people are peasant farmers. A permanent secretary in Adamawa State is on annual salary of about N2m. Such a Permanent Secretary would need a two year salary to pay one year school fees of one of his four children in AUN. What could be giving Atiku the picture that his people can afford such a fee? Again we can see Atiku projecting his life style on others. As a custom officer, Atiku became a multi billionaire from stealing public fund. He expects other public officers to do same. As regards the peasant farmers, Atiku definitely believes they are simply not worthy of attending his school.
The chances are high that there may not be up to 20 Adamawa Children in AUN and definitely not a single child of the honest civil Servant or Peasant.

WHAT TYPE OF CHILDREN IS ATIKU BREEDING?
Think of the kid from Atiku’s University that had spent over N60,000 monthly on accommodation and had been fed 42 times at the rate 16,000 per meal. Now academically endowed, he desires to improve his fatherland by taking up an accountant in Adamawa State Ministry of Finance where his entire annual salary is less than N500,000 to cater for his accommodation, feeding, clothing, transportation and with a view to bring up his own child in colleges not worse than the one
he attended. Tell me what he would do? Sure there is only one way open to him. It is to behave like Atiku and go straight for the treasury.

Nigerian youths, please avoid Atiku like a plague

You have done well. But just a few remaining.
Can you help in informing us of the origins and pay grade of the lecturers in different categories as well as the non academic staffs.

Alkanelly:
Hello fellow Nairalanders, please am concerned about my building project in port harcourt, the building has swallowed almost 4M and we haven't even started the oversite concrete, the building is 21.71m X 11.58m. so far we are filling the backfilling the rooms and getting ready to start oversite concrete slab. Note: this is a 4 unit of 2 bedroom all ensuite. should the cost be upto what it has taken? i am not in the country, could it be that something is not right? please i need advice.

Were you not given a bill of material/labour schedule per stage/milestone?
Is there any variation if the above was given ?
Do you need a neutral person to pay a visit to the site if need be?

Kaybthaniels:
Boss I can't extract the measurements from the floor plan because the measurement for each spaces wasn't written in sqmeters, I could try your other suggestion but that's kinda the same thing as sending a POP guy to go do the measurements, I can't tell who is giving me the accurate or correct measurement, I wanna move forward with my project but i am trying to avoid being fleeced or paying more than am supposed to.

Just pick the quote you prefer and ensure the artisan does a good job.
If you can read a measuring tape and you intend buying materials by yourself. Depending on your payment strategy, you can re-measure each worked section and do your deductions.

Kaybthaniels:
Boss it's not about the price for labor & materials that am even complaining about, its the measurements each of them came up with after viewing the floor plan and going to measure in person.

It's very easy

Take your floor plan and extract the measurements in each space. Ensure its in sqm.

Or

You get a tiler to give you the measurement on areas for floor tiles.



Then you compare which quotes is close in measurement from which you can choose from.

Look at the picture very well..........
How many notable dignitaries are smiling there ?
Even the last pix, what can you tell of the handshake between OBJ and Atiku?

$5 Million ?
How much is it in the black market?

How much is the allocation of kano state from the FG?

egbabiekperemo1:
Your father idiotic buhari stole 2.5bn us dollars as minister of petroleum resources and has only 150 cows 2 show for it. Atiku whom u call a thief stole d funds and created 300, 000 direct and indirect jobs. So who is a better thief? ??

Please highlight how many companies are in the employ of the 300,000 direct and indirect jobs and what's the pay grade for each category?

Rexnegro:
more reason why he will lose ... south east is PDP locked down , therefore he should chose from south west to split the vote there then give senate President to south east.... besides how comes the Igbos are now interested in presidency I tot most of them are saying they don't want presidency but Biafra..

And what will be given to Saraki?

Corrinthians:
Please Mufutai55, what can one build (residential apartment) on a plot of land measuring 75/50?

Was told such is available in a choice location. Want to go check it out but I need to know if I can build anything reasonable on it.

Need details as regards number of bedrooms, cars, little garden it can take.

Thanks.

Cc: Mountmoriah.

Your desire for space within your rooms plays a significant role.
Bungalow----3 bedroom
Duplex--- 4 bedroom
Duplex+Penthouse-------5 Bedroom

You have your portable green area.
You have space for 3-4 cars to park.

If your location adheres strictly to standard setbacks for residential buildings then you'll have less space for cars on this plot.

The North fought GEJ tooth and nail when President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua died.
What was that unusual, uncommon word the legislative used in proclaiming him president?
The North refused to back PGEJ's second tenure.

The North helped PMB won the 2015 elections.
The North have been instigating crisis in the country.
Why is the North divided over PMB's second term bid?

Atiku Abubakar the presidential aspirant under the PDP is also of the North.
The PDP has alot of political calculations to do and alot more now than when these North-men left them for APC.
Has the North actually lost any presidential election in Nigeria?

The West got 8 years.
The North got 2 years direct and 2 years indirect.
The South got 2 years indirect and 4 years direct.

Depending on the outcome of the 2019 elections, the North may get 8 years or 12 years ahead.
When will the East get theirs?
Will the East be able to broker a formidable deal with the North?

JudasNaCarrot:
It is u who didn't read and understand. The plane crashed 2006 and he was 14 then and found it. He just joined the military and passed out as an officer.

Oya go back and read the article....this time very slowly with a bottle of coke and popcorn.

A 14 year old boy
So what processes did he go through before enlisting ?
So how many years did he wait before enlisting into NDA?

JudasNaCarrot:
He joined the military not for the love of the country, its due to high unemployment rate.

No sane man wants to die for this useless APC government.

Anyway... Congratulations. At least you can put food on your table.

Did you read the news well

Something that happened since 2006, so APC were in power that time?

Haryanphe:
OK sir, thank you for your input but please can you help out with the cost implications of the precast. The septic tank is 12 by 12 while the soak away is 8 by 8. Thank you once again sir

If I may ask, which state is your site located?
What foundation type did you do for the building on that same land?

joycluv:
Plz what about dis step down/sunken living rooms in houses? Is it advantageous or is it just for fancy? My builder wants to put dat for me but I don't know much about it.

For some its just mere fancy.
For others it adds more beauty to the place.

For fear of little children or the aged getting hurt, you can do a 3" or 4" step down.

The write up is only good for students studying anthropology.

Daboomb:
You are pushing your luck too far!

I just did the ESTIMATION now, now, but l was on my way out when l made the earlier post, just to tell him he does not need someone Survey Plan, to answer a request for something as simple as what was asked.
Calculations l am giving out to someone will not done when l am in a hurry, to avoid mistakes. That was why l could not do the estimation immediately.
At least l have done it while You and your friend are still expecting the person's survey plan.
Or maybe you want to condemn the calculation, since l am not a Contractor?

Again, it is NOT a Quote, because unlike you and the desperate contractor you are defending, l am not a Contractor.
(Just an ordinary floor member here, who have gained from the FREE contributions of others and will always encourage and provide my own little FREE contribution, whenever l can).
No one can say l have ever prospect for any job, anywhere. I have been a Client at various times

From your own statements, you obviously also agree that it is FRAUDULENT, to be asking for somebody's survey plan, just to give them a rough estimation of something as basic as erecting two coaches of perimeter fencing of two plots of land when it can be done without such Survey Plan being handed over.

Dont even try to you 'reverse psychology' to accuse me of another thing while trying to defend that your possibly fraudulentand desperate fellow Contractor.

BTW: You still have not told us (as you claimed), how it is impossible to do that Calculation without laying your hands on the Survey plan of that Nairalander?

Between this post and the previous I wonder which is even lengthy since you claimed to have being in a hurry.
Thanks for rendering answers.
You have done well.

Daboomb:
I am disappointed at your post, maybe YOU TOO should have allowed the person that @jabolo's post was directed to, to respond?
You see, at times, we are guilty of what we accuse other of.

But that is by the way.
I dont have to be the one to respond to him, infact, l just ignored his response because he has shown the "type of Personand Contractor he is".



The problem was someone who wants to do TWO coaches of Fence, round his TWO plots of land.
Okay, let's go there:
One Plot is either 50 x 100 or 60 x 120 (for large Plots)
You simply take the Perimeter of Both plots, lying side-by-side (say 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (double breath) + 100 (length) + 50 + 50 (breath) = 400ft.

Did l need a Survey plan to calculate that?

Now, each Block (say the Client wants to use 6" Blocks) is 18" in length (or 1.5ft).
Thus, if you divide 400 ft by 1.5ft, you get 266.7 or 267 Blocks approximately.

We need to factor-in breakages (minus) and Mortar-fillings between the Blocks (additive), eventually, these two will cancel each other, approximately.

We also know that a Big 15ft Gate will remove 10 Blocks from the line it is placed.
So, if he is installing a Gate, he will use approximately 257 Units of 6" Blocks (otherwise, he will use 267 Blocks approx)

If he decides to use Blocks as Pillars (by doubling them, he will place pillars at every 6 blocks interval).
That mean he would have about 267 divided by 6 = 45 Pillars ( 43 Block Pillars, with Gate inclusive)
Therefore, an extra block for each Pillar = 45 or 43 Blocks extra, depending.

In all 257 + 44 (average) = 301 Blocks required for first, ground coach.
Two Coaches is 301 x 2 = 602.
Let us round it up to 650 Blocks, maximum.

If he is using concrete Pillars of 9" thickness with a Gate inlcusive, he will still use 43 Concrete Pillars and (257 - 22 ) = 237 Blocks.
Again, let us round it up to 250 Blocks per coach.
Thus total number of Blocks required, for the Two Plots Perimeter fencing (side-by-side), with 10ft Gate installed, 9" Concrete Pillars at every six blocks interval AND for TWO Coaches Perimeter = 500 Blocks MAXIMUM

Cost in Naira, will now depend on how much A Tipper of Sand and a Bag of Cement are sold @Tracypacy's own Area.

Did l collect his survey plan to answer his question?
No.

So, l am right to say he does not need a survey plan to answer simple question like was asked.

That he chose to show his level and be raining abuse like l have taken food from his mouth, just shows how desperate he is.

I wont dignify him with a reply and you too can tell us WHY you think that question cannot be answered, providing the person with a close as possible answer, without seeing his survey plan (that survey plan contains a lot of personal details and should only be shared when ablsolutely necessry.).

Thank you.


#jabolo: Thanks for responding, even without my prompting. I understand itt is just natural not to allow this sort of malfeanse to pass without a response. He is who he is.

So you had it in you to put up a quote, yet decided to call someone a fraud indirectly.
I'm definitely disappointed.
We are all who we are.
God knows us best.

jabolo:
*Idiot *Rubbish mouth *Stupid fingers ... see anger!

Chill chief, there are better ways to respond. You could have calmly explained why you asked for what you asked for. Still, you needed to vent, so feel better?

You run a business in the real world. As a client, I would jejely dodge you since you probably have the capacity to start a fight in an empty room.

Use this forum well. Learn from the best service providers, whom you will never see engaging in unnecessary e-fights. The likes of Spyder, alcopacetic, rotech, kolashange...

You would have allowed the person he responded to, to return a response if need be.

Whatever he requested for is not entirely out of place and he did not force the Op to put up his survey plan on here or send it privately.

This cartel sort of arrangement fellas do here is so funny.
It is the way and manner words are exchanged here made Egun Mogaji to take a break while he handles here from time to time with his alternate moniker.

Let's take a break from provoking persons and stop playing sides.

Just a 2 way traffic. ......
We can all play into the political machinations and calculations of the North to retain power for 12 uninterrupted years......

Or......................

But whichever the case, I believe the West never really looses out in all.
The role of the East and South is actually not clear.

The North gets what it wants at the end.

They are not police officers.

Zeebeeee:
The 144k isn’t for both the external piping and construction of inspection chambers oooo, it’s just for the construction of the inspection chambers, below the quotation you will see the grand total for both the external piping works and the construction chambers is 314,350, So boss are you saying 144k is ok for just the inspection chambers?

And no I don’t have blocks or cement on site yet.

Apologies. My bad.
Please forming inspection chambers should be about #2k/chamber inclusive of dressing and the slab/cover.
You'll provide the blocks/cement/sand/rods (slab cover).
A mason will handle the construction of chambers.

[quote author=Zeebeeee post=71710490][/quote]This your quotation is for piping and construction of inspection chambers.
Guess you already have blocks and cement on site or you will procure that upon request.
You can bargain for the workmanship with the plumber.
The amount quoted for inspection chamber is okay for 12 chambers.

Zeebeeee:
Thanks boss, I also figured it shouldn’t be that expensive, I am being quoted 145k to construct 12 inspection chambers for a 3bedroom flat ensuite.

Please upload the quotation if it's written on paper or sent as sms.
Let's see it.

He just spoke like its a new thing.
Every Bayelsan knows that the senatorial seats are rotated and there's no one that can change it.

His colleagues from other zones in the same state who have done same 2 terms will still step down.
So it's no news.

I was thinking the post will say probably the shirtless guys he hugged are gays and nothing of such.
Yet some people here are complaining.

Some of you will even over hug a shirtless lady and you'll be smiling sheepishly.

Zeebeeee:
Abeg house i am still waiting for answers oo, what is the cost of constructing inspection chambers and how many do you need for a 3 bedroom flat, all rooms ensuite?

Your site engineer or plumber should be in the best position to tell you.

Normally, your toilet/bathroom, kitchen, will have chambers.
The next line of chambers are those where your piping, makes a turn at bends on your building, etc, etc.

Rubbiish:
Concrete fascia are supported by columns, as long as there are supporting columns, there is really no much to worry about, regardless of the size of blocks.

There's actually no column on that building apart from that which is at the ends (corners) of the building.
So invariably the concrete fascia is being held by the the roof beam cum fascia.

GoodMuyis:
The Case of Mary can be liken to Surrogacy

https://www.nairaland.com/4722884/does-surrogacy-scientifically-confirm-possibility

Liken to.........no way

What is not is not and can't be.

lovedayugo:
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/surrogate-mother.html

Whoever you are, you are writing out of the context of the Bible.
There's no such thing as surrogate mother in the Bible.
How you fellas find comfort in distorting and twisting Bible quotations is quite alarming.