₦airaland Forum

The problem we have in this country is that every profession wants to be recognised.
I wonder what will happen when there's a meeting with the Civil Engineers.

Instead of putting our heads together to bring results we are busy trying to play who is superior to another in the construction industry when we all know every profession is relevant.
Not one can do without the other, but the case is different in Nigeria.

abbeycial:
So am I safe to use it for decking slabs for a two storey building with 4 units of 2 bedroom flats?am really tempted due to finacial constraints.

I would also appreciate if I can be enlightened on any additional fortification required for the above.

Sorry, i can't really advice you about using it or not.


And if you're so tempted, kindly check the history of existing structures for your type of build within the area your build is and run a sample.

Goodluck.

abbeycial:
Wow!
The gravel idea was sold to me by one of my neighbors who also has a two storey building he developed in same area(4 units of 2 bedroom flats).
Was doubting the reliability of gravel over granite when it comes to decking thus I threw it to the house for clarification.

For the ply wood,I would just drop the idea.
I can't faint.

The use of gravel in building construction was discontinued for usage in concrete mix based on engineering research/findings.

Gravel is an alternative aggregate material to use based on cost.

But granite is better.

You'll just have to make a choice.

abbeycial:
Bonjour my brothers.

Kinda confused and I need your advice.

Can I use gravel for a decking project?Though I know granite is the standard been used but due to constraints on my financial muscle,I wish to know the side effect if a two bedroom twin flat is decked using gravel instead of granite.

Secondly,can I use ply woods supported with bamboo sticks to hold the decking instead of the normal 1 by 12 planks?

Thanks.

Ply boards are of different types and thickness. If you are referring to that type which is about 1/2" or 3/4" flexible and light weight then that's a complete no go area for decking usage.

The disadvantage of using gravel is that it does not bond well when used due to its spherical nature. And if a concrete mix using such as aggregate comes in contact with constant water , you'll notice hair line cracks and it easily wears off.

I know its being used in some parts of the eastern region.

Rubbiish:
Accurate.
Same with what i was told.
But u didn't add kingpost sir

Kingpost......2x6

It's not usually stated separately on a quote. It's just added to the list of 2x6's to be used.

Bro, the only accurate thing in building construction is that building which outlives its owner before a major repair.

Daboomb:
No Sir!

They usually use 2' x 4" for it, not 2 x 6.

Some Carpenters can 'manage' 2 x 3 for it though this is not advisable.

Purlins. ......2x3
Rafters........2x6
Struts..........2x4
Tie beam.....2x6
Wall plate....3x4
Nogging. .....2x2 or 2x3


There are a couple of manipulation where 2x4 can be used in place of 2x6 but that's given the instance where you're short of 10 pcs or less and the 2x4 sizes are quite thick than the regular .

maxiuc:
Same issue here with Skye bank i transferred 25k to a uba bank account the AtM machines said issuer error I was debited of 25k I called my brother to check if he has gotten alert he said no so I sent to his Bank to verify if he's having a pending transaction but nothing

Now I went to Skye bank to complain the said I should wait that after 24hrs it will reverse back now 24hours gone no alerts the customer care Lady gave me a form to fill which I did now asking her how long it will take to reverse my money she said 1or 2weeks please everyone how that possible I need urgent answer because tomorrow am going there

Your case is quite simple to resolve. Just go to your bank and tell them you need a transaction receipt for that particular transaction and it should be stamped.
The print out receipt will bear a transaction reference code . That reference code is the only code you can use to actually prove the transfer went true.
You can as well take it to the recipient bank as proof and they will use it to also tell you if its authentic.

With that code you have a strong case if that money is not in the recipients account.

desiji:
Okay we are still thinking & still using our Nigerian metality, my Mercedes should and must be bigger than yours, must he buy one with a complete coverage of everything or only the necessary things. We have solar as big and as small as one wants and to Batteries he just needs to get the right ones (i.e LIFEPO4) , Tesla PowerWall, infact batteries are getting better and longer life span as before. Where i stay you have houses used only as Sommer residence and only powered with Solar if Alhaji permits i might post pictures.
It is a pity the Govt, is not Subsidizing this Energy source where i live you tell the Govt you are interested in Solar come and see how much Subsidies and incentives they start to give.

You really did not answer any question.
Probably I did not ask one in the first instance.

Chekitaut:
Its very easy, if you 100% sure of payment day, discuss with whoever you intend using, likwise any other that can accept your payment day. exposing for 2months is much in this present season. Making correction you will spend more.

What kind of mistakes will occur that will require any form of correction given the season we are in?

desiji:
lLike howm Kw/H are you contemplating in using, basically in this day and age there should be no doubts to using renewable energy. my pros,
a) No Noise
b) One time buy (i.e you only buy it once and if it is a quality buy 25yrs warranty )
c) No servicing except probably cleaning the panels
D) No pollution
E) if your roof is facing the optimal location Space is also saved
and if it is offgrid with enough batteries you are good to go and if you are not around the intelligent MPPT controls eeverything for you
The cons
High Purchase price.
The difference lies in the hand buying a Generator of that high capacity is a no no for me
alone the noise ,pollution and because it is a moving machine it will require regurlar servicings
and the worst of it buying diesel to fuel it. If one now calculate how much you spend on fueling and servicing why not then do d needful and go for Solar

In a house he may likely stay 3 months out of 12. What's the depletion rate of the batteries during the 9 months duration of non usage?

shelliz:
Good day all. Please i need help! I have been a silent reader here. Oga mufutau55 and all the experts in roofing nogging.
I intend roofing a block of 2 flats (4 bedrooms at the front and bedrooms at the back flat) and the carpenter gave me an estimate for the roofing wood nogging and the ceiling nogging for a king size of 20ft. (Location Benin city).

3by4 = 35 pièces (unit price, #1900)
2by4 = 270 pièces (unit price, #970)
2by3 = 60 pièces (unit price, #850)
2by2 = 560 pièces ( unit price, #600)
1 bag of nail 3inches (#8000)
1 bag of 4 inches ( #8000)
Transportation #30,000
Labour for the wood work including ceiling nogging #190,000

Total amount =#951,400.

I am not a rich person, just managing to build a home and i think only wood and ceiling nogging for almost 1 million naira is excessive. What are your thoughts please? God bless you sir as you reply.

These unit prices are they for over length or the regular 12ft and what type of wood?

ogoplus:
Good people.
Please what can go wrong if I suspend
my roofing project after the woods have been put in place.

The wood work has been completed but I don't have the funds to buy roofing sheets till July salary is paid.
This means exposing the wood work to elements of weather for roughly 60 days.

I am not entitled to salary advance and I don't want to borrow for the roofing.

Please advise.

Nothing will go wrong.

I always tell clients not to exceed 90 days and not that I encourage it.

Iruosonobrugwhe:
thanks.... i am not in town...his plan is for 3 inches claiming the foundation is high enough and with properfilling and sand compaction, he will use 3inches but in the bathrooms and kitchen it will be 5''.

Well I don't know his engineering justification towards the use of 3" as it relates to high foundation, proper sand filling and compaction.

Do you have a step down at the sections he intends doing the 5" ?

Nettuno:
The plans...

Why don't you interchange the living room- dining to the far right with the entrance-anteroom-visitors toilet.

Re-do a rough sketch see how it goes

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MLM platform is an alternative source of getting income and every Nigerian should be on the look out for prospective and reliable ones to belong to.

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Nice to be back.
Thanks.

All what we are good in is just to talk and not act.

Being a muslim in Nigeria means you have an edge and leverage over others and it gets higher if you're a northerner.
The addition of arabic studies in such exam is just a way to increase their chances of passing the exams.
....muslims are united irrespective of tribe or region.


Till we so called Christians truly unite, putting behind our numerous denomination, then i say we far from telling our selves the truth.

Iruosonobrugwhe:
bill given to me is about 500k

That's fair enough.

Just make sure the thickness is not below 4".

Iruosonobrugwhe:
thanks...

Delta precisely

You can still work with that budget though much less.

Iruosonobrugwhe:
Dear learned folks, please what is the minimum thickness a 'german floor' hould have?.....location Niger delta . Note that block work and roofing have been done.
What is the average cost for 265 m2 surface?

Niger Delta is a big region.
If your build is within RS and BYS then make a budget for《650k, since you already have block walls erected completely.

Daboomb:
Not always true!

There are "layers", in any security apparachne.
We cal it the "Onion principle"...to reflect the layers of the Onion flesh, while it shields it central-core.

- Security layers actually start by just demarcating where your territory starts/ends.... using something as simple as a 'different color' of paint or even sand, on the floor (as long as it is different and clearly identifiable by others.)
- As the 'threat level' overcomes or trespasses the outermost layer and walks its way inwards, your level of response also increases commensurately

The message you are sending, for example by planting a different flower in your frontage, is to tell intruders: you are stepping on private space, pls keep off!
if they cross your flower-hedge and approach your gate, that is another "layer" and the response could be a Dog barking or a security personnel giving them the shoo-off signal or an announcement over your CCTV monitor reminding them that they are being watched and recorded and could be putting themselves in a precarious situation that can land them in jail.

Now, inside your compound, your 'privacy' is not just your unclothedness, it also includes what you can leave within the compound or expose within it, and you dont want others to be privy-to.

For example (and this is just an example), if you have a swimming pool within your compound, low walls wont do.
If you leave expensive 'Toys' within your compound, low walls wont do.
Even having your children play within the compound, if for example you just came from abroad , low walls wont do otherwise they become a target of kidnappers.

I do a little bit of 'advicing' on such subjects for a living, so l am quite familiar with it.

I understand the different layers of security. And security is a different type of privacy.

We limit security as applicable to only our living environments.


The best form of security is not to draw attention to one's self.

A better form of security is to be cautious, conscious and be at alert at every point in time.

Yemibrilliant:
Pls, can u help with the factors to be considered as i am a novice in dis. Thanks.

Please if you already have a design plan, kindly sit down with your architect/engineer/builder (visit the site with any one of them) , pen up an estimate, do some deductions - reductions, think over it, sleep over it , then get to the site to effect it.


Only the person doing the job can give you a close to precise cost since you'll be working on a budget.

We on this thread can only scrutinize the estimated cost within our professional limits.

Yemibrilliant:
pls, can the 300k conclude the foundation or surpass the foundation abit.
Thanks 4 d response.

It may and may not.
A lot of factors to consider .

But you can start something if you're anxious about it.

Just one step at a time.

Rubbiish:
@bold Good point security & safety wise...but what about privacy sir? I only use dwarf fence for front. Sides & back must be high for me.

It depends on what you mean by privacy?


The external walls of every house is enough for privacy and we all live within the walls of the main house.

Yemibrilliant:
Pls, how far can 300k go in building 2 bedroom apartment on a plot of dry land in Ifo, Ogun state. It's urgent pls.

Assumptions :

#100×1000 blocks =#100,000
2 trips shard sand @15,000 each= 30,000
3/4 granite 15 tons= 50,000
50 bags cement @ #2500= #125,000

Foundation excavation =#20,000


Total...............

Yet to include so many things

RuthlessLeader:
Here i was thinking that christians are supposed to be loving and kind people who turn the other cheek.

I understand the book well. It was written by an assortment of goat herders in a desert so even children can understand it. Jesus was a bastard who is a result of divine rape of a 14-15 year old girl. I no be muslim before you call me paedophile

Nobody asked you what religion you belonged to and probably its just conviction catching up on you.

Like I said, you can't comprehend and also not understand simple english and usage.

It just shows in your post. I hope you can spot it out to make corrections.

RuthlessLeader:
Jesus was born out of wedlock so he is a bastard.
I am learned. I even know your bible pass you.
Don't go to church again because you are surely a bastard's descendant

I can see a bastard , who is just not learned and not educated because he feels he can't use the dictionary or google to help his use of english.

I can also see a bastard who claims to know the Bible more when he does not truly understand english and its usage.

You clearly don't understand the Bible and clearly the simplest verses because you can't comprehend even the simplest forms of english usage.

Daboomb:
Very True.

Functionality Perspective!




Again, very true.

Aesthetic Perspective!

But l would not mind to 'trap' the aroma from your kitchen so that anytime you are cooking some nice stew, l will simply make Pounded yam or Akpu and stand close to oyur kitchen, swallowing my Akpu with the aroma of your stew.

What about "Safety perspective"?
Where we all know that most fires start from the kitchen and putting it where it is easily accessible to say Fire trucks and their hose (like we bury soakaway in the front of the house so that it is easily accessible to evacuation trucks .....old fashion style).

A kitchen buried deep behind the house may not be easily noticeable to neighbours in case of fire and may not be as easily accessible to fire fighters in an emergency, compared to one that is at the front.

I do not think "safety perspective" in kitchen placement is actually thought about in Nigeria per se even with home owners putting up walls as fence line. Home owners prefer to put up 20 course block wall as fence behind and sides of the house and choose to put see through or dwarf wall in front.
Given a good neighbourhood and nothing to hide by home owners, all sides of your fence is supposed to be a dwarf wall so if there be any fire incident any neighbour can be of help from any angle to assist.

RuthlessLeader:
Jesus was a bastard in case you don't know.

How do you know you are not descended from a bastard within ten generations? Doesn't that mean yo shouldn't enter god's house. Everyone on planet earth is descended from a bastard.

Before you complain ten genarations is more than one thousand years so you must be a bastard's descendant

Jesus, really?

It's either you're not a Christian

It's either you're NOT educated/learned properly and enough


Please go check the meaning of that word again via google.

Simple question:

Kindly tell me why she put blue band in hot boiling water or she intends using it to cook rice?
What was she trying to do or is it a research work?


They should try even foreign butters or even margarine that pattern and see what happens as well.

Sometimes in this country, we just don't think but react .

Daboomb:
Can you please explain, why this is so?
Isit just convention or there are specific reasons for locating it where you said?

As in advantages/disadvantages?

Me just like to learn from others, as much as possible.

I think the ideal response should be the kitchen is adjacent to the lounge/parlour/living room.
In the instance where there is a dinning then it is to it.