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Unfortunately, there is holiday in Oyo state.
Decleared yesterday at 7pm, like someone didn't notice June 12 was in the calender since May 29th.
One chance people!

We talk every time about the need for newbies to read past posts and to avoid posting on topics that are related to watching paytvs illegally but it only ends with the post or comment that it is contained in. There is really nothing on the forum that indicates or spells what the rules are.
I am making a suggestion to the moderator to have a stick on each page of this thread (if it is possible) stating clearly these rules and the consequences of breaking them.

Let us move from talking to ACTION.

Meanwhile, I am always amazed that newbies who google their way here suddenly forget that google can do much more!

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This is a serious matter although ladden with some very funny comments. Yaradua must have been very prudent to promise only those 7 pointless agenda.

This is the way our elected officials can be held accountable for the posts they occupy, For all those that voted for GEJ's person and not his party, please note that all these promises were made by him and not his party, so he will be held accountable for all the successes and failure. We will keep this thread alive for the next three years.

Even Inec, an organisation with no military intelligence identified flash points in the country yet the people been paid to do the work of securing the lives and properties of Nigerians are no where to be found.

What happened to the military troops deployed during the elections? They are busy killing innocent people that started the whole riots and driving recklessly causing accidents as the case in Ibadan. Even when there were intelligence reports what did the federal govement do?

Before we biginning to call those misguided elements in the north names, we need to hold on a bit to see the people's reaction if PDP rig elections in Oyo, Lagos and other south western states.

The election that was suppose to unite us is diving us even the more because we have since been divided by corruption, tribalism and religion beyond repair. For the folks in the north, violence is never a way to solve issues.

I supported the BB team before the election, I made sure I campaigned for him and i casted my vote for the change I believed in. It is not our fault that Nigerians were not ready for the change.

, it wasn't a dumb move, it only showed that majority of Nigerians are pleased with the perfomace of the PDP government in the last 12years.

, another funny thread, BB lost only because Nigerians are not ready for the change that he represents, I voted for Buhari, I am happy I did and I will do again, again and again. Do not forget that the minorities should always have their say. The next four years will show whether the majority in this case was right.

[quote author=Dav.e link=topic=643125.msg8096577#msg8096577 date=1302467429]Which one be all this noise for here; e no go change anything! Presido promised the elections will be free and fair and so was the exercise (phase 1). Kudos to him and all that took part in the whole process. Finish!!![/quote]This wouldn't have generated any arguement if people of the luck revolution didn't see it as a feather on the cap of their GEJ

Princek12:
One problem many Nigerians have, as shown from the comments on this thread, is giving credit to whom it is due. So the results of the June 12 were not in the light when IBB annulled it? When OBJ rigged Yaradua into power, what did Nigerians do? Nothing. Give credit to whom credit is due, and stop feigning ignorance to the fact that GEJ has given us a free and fair elections. You are acting as if Nigerians would have taken to the streets had GEJ rigged the elections. As usual, Nigerians would have cried foul, complained, and gone about their business thereafter. But the status quo--crying foul without taking any concrete steps such as rioting to remove the source of the corruption--would have remained unchanged. This "doggedness of the Nigerian spirit" you claim would have done nothing to subvert GEJ's PDP regime had he rigged the elections in his party's favor.

Your justification is petty, GEJ saw the hand writing of the will of the people on the wall from the days of fighting the cabal. Masses' action does not come pre meditated! I am sure you must have participated in students' unrest before, you know how it starts, some singing, one or two addresses and all hell is let loose.You shouldn't be caught predicting what the will of the people can lead to, not neccesarily violence. I know you can still remember that the changes in the arab world started with a single man's protest to injustice.

, what all pro GEJ agents forget is that the results of the elections were already in the public domain before the final declearation by the returning officers. There was absolutely nothing the agents of darkness could do about it. There was a guy who wanted to cause trouble in my polling unit, he was scared to his pants when he saw people bringing out their cameras to take his picture, I didn't see his face till the end of the election. The was even a state wide brodcast in Oyo state were the pdp asked all their supporters not to wear any party branded items because they knew the people were prepared to record and take pictures of any incident. I give the outcome to the election to the doggedness of the Nigerian spirit that couldn't be intimidated or taken for a ride!

PDP's loss in this election is only showing GEJ one thing, that the time for change is now!

It is very petty to see the results coming in as the commitment of the presidency to credible elections. What we are witnessing is the collective will of Nigerians to reject the ruling party. I voted in my ward, the first time since 1997, I also saw youths who collected money from PDP and voted according to their consience. All these didn't happen by luck. GEJ and his co travellers dare not interfer in the process lest they have an Egypt or Tunisia on the hands.

, hmmm, I see. If anybody complains about Mohammed Abacha, it sure should not be coming from a pro PDP/GEJ member because I do not know how to explain Ex convict Bode George who stole 89billion only to be sitting beside my fresh air president after two days of discharge from prision or shall we mention Ibori, Alams, Ohakim, Akala, OGD, Olisa Methu, Chris and Andy Uba, what about Oyinlola, Agagu, haaaa, Baba Iyabo, Iyabo herself, Ette, Bankole, PDP/GEJ is a stale product, fresh air my foot!

, I am supprised at all the GEJ apologists here. Some couple of weeks ago it was the I am Rev Chris Okotie ad that was on TV before the 'con men' turned it to I am GoodLuck Jonathan, has Okotie and team sued team GEJ for this? How will any rational company cry after Buhari because of the activity of a single fan that is anonymous. I wonder what bluelas will do if they are the producer of the tons of local movies available on youtube. I guess they will wait until Mark Zukerberg is about to contest for the post of the US president.

Evil Brain:
Nigerians need to establish the principle that when the leaders misbehave and make the ordinary people suffer, the people can punish them by kicking them out of office.

If Buhari messes up, he'll be easy to get rid of in 4 years time.

Thank you for those lines!
We need to use this election to send a clear signal to the political parties that we care less who their opponents are, if they fail us, we kick them with our votes. Just as Labour and the Republicans were kicked out in the UK and US.
The ultimate power resides with the the electorate!

Having taken my time to read through all the posts in the last 6 pages not because I am jobless but because i really wanted to see or understand the strong arguements of the anti Buhari/8akara ticket. As i have seen there has been no new point safe age, military background and cheap propaganda. For the records, people in advance counties of the world delibrately enlist in the army to get the best of leardership and disciplinary skills. That been said, Buhari went to the stadium to watch a football game and all pro GEJ suddenly lost their peace. He went there without police escorts that he is legally entiled to and any press stunt. The pictures of his presence at the game was taken by ordinary Nigerians who were also there to watch the game. As a Nigerian who pays my tax every month, I do not want to morgage the next four years of my life. I will vote for the development of Nigeria. BB all the way.

Why did you accept to become General Buhari’s running mate?
Ordinarily, I have no business in partisan politics. Politics is too important to be left in the hands of politicians alone. I thought my job is just to raise the standard of God’s consciousness in our nation and to ensure that righteousness exalts this nation by way of preaching and instilling the fear of God in our people. I have been harassed myself by military dictators and their civilians counterparts in mufti, but I never thought that a day would come that I would do this.

The last time I marched on the streets was in 1978 and that were the days of Ali-must-go, and all that happened was that they increased our fees from N30 to N90 and that was killing in those days. When I left school, I thought the marching had ended, until the crisis that almost put Nigeria into the precipice and we rose by the grace of God, gathered all civil society organisations together on January 7 and fixed a date for January 12.
Using our networks within the country to pull our people down to the streets, to protest what was happening.

A culture of impunity against a sitting Vice President, not a candidate at this time and by the grace of God, the people joined us in the protest. We had our way. The President was endorsed and that was it.We thought Save Nigeria Group (SNG) should not end there, that we should go to the next phase; the next phase is unblocking the minds of our people to know that sovereignty truly lies in their hands and to ensure that many of them this time around, would register to vote. We began to open SNG chapters across the nation, until one fateful afternoon, the 3rd of May (2010). I will never forget it. Someone asked me a question that: “Pastor Bakare, are you raising responsible people to vote for irresponsible people.” That hit me like a thunderbolt and that was the turning point for me.

There is no quality leadership to provide not just direction, but to supervise our development. That day after that question came to me, we decided to engage the political class and not just cry out, let’s come out with what we will show Nigerians that is the irreducible minimum that we should be looking for in a candidate that you will cast your vote for. So, we came up with a contract for Nigeria, which was launched in Nigeria on the May 5, 2010, we held a meeting in the afternoon, the rest they say, is history.We began to engage the political class; I personally engaged Abubakar Atiku and we drew our seven points irreducible minimum that we want to see in parties and politicians and key players in every political party. High level transparency, internal democracy which is germane to our development. We engaged the political class and finally we took a stand. We went to the President with a document, which we gave to elders in some parts of the country and religious leaders like Pastor Adeboye on why we will not support Jonathan.

We listed three or four things.The culture of impunity we rose to fight had returned full circle back into our country, and we gave him examples like what was happening in Ogun State which SNG had to intervene and we followed alongside Prof Wole Soyinka at a town hall meeting to decry what was happening in Ogun State. The same thing happened in Bauchi. The governor moved from All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) to Peoples Democratic Party (PDP); his deputy did not move along with him, the governor used the House of Assembly to impeach him. The man went to court and won, but another person was sworn in as deputy governor.

Now these two people, the governors of Bauchi and Ogun states are now the co-ordinators for President Jonathan’s campaign, which means he has made up his mind, whether there is violation of people’s right or will, it does not matter. The cry of my heart has been that except we return to true federalism, Nigeria cannot make progress because we were better than this when we had little resources. These were the things we were saying and began to position our people. July 31, 2010, we summoned the first meeting, 10 people were invited but only eight showed up. At the meeting, was Nuhu Ribadu himself, Malam Nasiru el-Rufai, Donald Duke, Oby Ezekwesili, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Fola Adeola, Jimi Agbaje, Governor Fashola was also invited.

So, we called these arrowheads together, because we wanted to go all outside of normal party structure, raised a new caliber of people that will move enmasse to a political party or start one. That day we decided to use a new party because I loved the name, the Liberal Democrats. The name was good and I said to them that day the only way I would participate in this process is to give two conditions: I will spend and be spent for it, but I will not touch elective office and I will not join a political party. Those were the two conditions I gave them.

I’m fulfilled the way I’m functioning and everybody knows by the grace of God whether you like what I’m saying or not, when I rise to speak, I say it the way it is and leave it there and we agreed. But unfortunately, the man who registered Liberal Democrats, which we were going to use, decided to become the campaign director in the diaspora for IBB. The rest is history. And so, we decided to use Labour Party (LP) and we engaged LP because it is generic; but one of us pulled the trigger, Ribadu decided to pick the ticket of ACN, that was a good development, and I said if that’s the way you want to go, we will still go together and we were all going together on the platform. We now thought who we should present as candidate. I’m giving you this background because stories have a way of being muddled up and I like saying it the way it is because there is nothing you can do to truth. Even if people don’t believe you, your conscience is clean. It was Duke that we were going to feature as vice president and Mallam el-Rufai as the presidential candidate. But Duke came back and said right now, I’m not able to accept such responsibility, it was even him that suggested Labour Party to us.

So, we retained Mallam el-Rufai, who the first day I met him, was the one saying to me, let’s use Nuhu Ribadu and I said we can’t present Ribadu for obvious reasons that were known to us at that point. You will be doing so many things and having to correct and explain so many things. So, we decided to pair el-Rufai and Oby Ezekwesili; he (el-Rufai) was away and I called him to return and that we are going to galvanise everyone to fight this monster called PDP, because there are some things that I know, if time permits, I will expose them.With another four years of PDP, you can kiss Nigeria, goodbye. Mallam el-Rufai returned to the country and gave us some stiff conditions that for as long as Ribadu is out, he would not come out. It will look like competition and it will just divide the North further. I saw the point and we said let’s forget this, we are not guilty of not trying. Before we got to that stage, we also engaged General Muhammadu Buhari. We went to him in Kaduna like we sat with Jonathan and Atiku as well as Ribadu.

I will never forget my encounter with Nuhu Ribadu at a town hall meeting in Washington which was put together by Professor Aluko. This time we were pure SNG, we weren’t partisan and Nuhu rose up that day and said “ladies and gentlemen, I’m here to tell you why I want to rule Nigeria.” It was my time to speak and I said “Nuhu, I would have almost cursed the day I met you, but because you are my younger brother, I will not do that, you want to rule Nigeria, who would be your subjects” I told him that all these anti-corruption czar, we have stories we can tell, but we keep quiet for now, until the appropriate time. I came back to Nigeria to engage Buhari because we didn’t give him any chance at all. If you read in the press all that I said about him (Buhari), I said they were all part of the whole, who can’t produce anything for us, there is no point lying. I won’t say something and deny it. Until I engaged the man and I discovered that he has changed from what he used to be. And of all the people I sat with, he is the most credible that gave all the right answers and that was willing to engage us and to seek help. A good leader is not an all rounder, he is the one who knows his weakness and can starve that weakness and will engage in people who are much more competent than himself and release them to accomplish a task. If you don’t mind who takes the credit, you will get much more done.

When Mallam el-Rufai said he would not contest because he would be seen as competing with Ribadu, we felt that the other candidate that is left is Buhari, but we wished them all the best and washed off our hands. I was tidying my wardrobe when the phone call came and it was General Buhari on the other side and he said ‘Pastor Bakare, after deep thoughts, I will consider it a great honour if you can run with me as my Vice Presidential candidate for the 2011 elections. The answer was not far-fetched, it was in my lips waiting to explode: thanks, but no thanks and I gave him the reasons that I didn’t come because I wanted to play politics. I want to be part of those who reshape Nigeria and create a party that can be respected. I called Pastor Adeboye and he surprised me because I thought he would say no way, but I played into his hands. When we went to meet with President Jonathan, the documents we gave to him, we also submitted them to Pastor Adeboye and he asked who is the best person that can salvage Nigeria. I told him, from all I have seen, the person that can rescue us right now, is Muhammadu Buhari, but he has no money, he is popular in the North, he does not have a clue of how to come into the South because of so many things they’ve hung on his head over the years.

I was still not persuaded. I went again to see Pastor Adeboye, submitted what we were doing; he said ‘if you are ever considering Muhammadu Buhari, then you need to look for a strong christian to be his running mate and the emphasis was strong. And I stood up and said we will look for the strong christian, but I want you to know that it cannot be me, I’m satisfied with what I’m doing. I did not know when I was doing all these, I was warming myself in the heart of Buhari. But it was ACN who first came to me through their publicity secretary and said can you persuade General Buhari to run on our platform; that was part of the engagement, to let the best of the North and the best of the South pair. I preached it that let ACN and CPC form an alliance and let’s call it ACPC and PDP will be history, but there are other issues that did not make that work. Move forward, I called him (Adeboye) again the second day and said sir, will you support me, he (Adeboye) said ‘with everything I have got in my own way, just go for it, I will be praying.’

What actually are you bringing to the table, that other people can join you in making your aspiration fruitful?
One of the things that we made a condition precedent before accepting this, and all my friends were there in Kaduna before I signed any paper, General, you can fight corruption. You have the courage and the will, because you have been adjudged a clean man, a man of probity, but beyond fighting corruption, I don’t know you to be an economist and me that you are asking to come, I am not an economist. Would it be acceptable to you that we build a change team, a people who are not just technocrats, who have been there before, who understands the issues, so that we build a formidable team from within our nation and outside of our country in the diaspora, to bring in this people, for this first and foremost rescue operation, because we need to recover Nigeria, we need to rescue Nigeria.

If you ask me to give those names, permit me to still keep them where we keep them behind the scene. Because at the crucial time their faces will be out and you will know who they are.
But if you are asking me if I am adding any value, if that is the question, politics is a game of number. Someone said, he has no political structure and I said, you didn’t build your own in one day either. There was the first day that the man who has political structure also stepped in without structure. Where was your political structure when Nigeria was sliding into precipice. And when I rose and people said you can’t pull it through, I remember the ACF person, Shettima Yerima, he said don’t go to Abuja to protest, stay in Lagos where you have people; but you do not know what we have done over the years building networks across this country.

There is no part of this country, no zone that we are not represented. If politics is the game of number, Dr Akingba pointed us in the right direction when he said, are you raising credible people to vote for unreasonable men. Look at the last voter’s registration, Lagos State has the highest number, 6 something million people is it because Lagosians are aware? We knew what we did. SNG started what we call VEAC-Voters Education Awareness Campaign. We sent 10 men to every ward to knock at people’s doors to bring them out. Those we have on our data will shock you.

Also in our deliberation, we decided that there was no point wasting our energy and resources. Fashola is good in Lagos. You can’t beat Fashola in the next election except if the Almighty decides otherwise. So, instead of you looking for one candidate that is not going anywhere and you waste your resources around him, let’s build party structure. Let’s build a Unilateral Strategic Alliance, USA, go to such governors and , say ‘here are our people, they will vote for you, we want you also to help our own cause so that when it comes to presidency, we will have such collaboration’. And we know we don’t want them involved in any anti party activity. We don’t want that.

But nobody has monopoly over South-West right now. It is so open. And we are going to do what people don’t do. We are not going to win this battle just on the pages of newspapers, just as much as we need the press. We need the press so that what we are doing is communicated accurately out there. We need the Press to also showcase some of the things behind what we are doing and what we stand for.

What our government can do for the people of Nigeria. And there is no place in Nigeria that the Press is so powerful like in the South West. But we are not going to be paper tigers like you call them. It is not just going to be television appearances. We are going to the people where they are. And that is why after the flag-off, you are not likely going to see us doing rallies and doing fashion parade.

I told them at the NN24 debate, you see how many times (President) Jonathan has changed clothes, it is because he is conducting a farewell party across Nigeria. That’s all. Let him enjoy it. We don’t have time for that. We are rolling our sleeves to go to where the people are, in the hinterland, in rural areas, everywhere to give them hope.

Many years I transverse this county going from campus to campus, there is no university in Nigeria, except the ones just being established that have no foundation, no classrooms, I went to all those universities to begin to raise new generations. We call them, a new breed without greed. If you are asking about people and numbers, you will be shocked at the right time.

lagoshost:
Revolution, what about that? lets force them to reduce it,

And how will you do this?

, the problem of Nigeria is very much basic, I do not have any concerns about all candidates agreeing on issues as these are seen by all Nigerians day and night but my concern is the way they plan to address these problems. It is a fact that nations are not built by luck, we need to think before we vote this time.

The word 'Guru' is fast becoming abused here. Some people make it sound like there are some people 'Gurus' who have to be worship before their requests or enquiries are answered simply because they are reluctant to do some reading or research. I posted websites where details of frequencies and other channel data could be sought some few pages back without anybody requesting or calling me a 'guru' Let's stop this laziness induced bootlicking.

@ Movor, with more than 900 posts to your credit, I am sure you will not have enough time to read about 100 pages that was populated by posts similar to your own.

babasoty:
so was nelson mandela
so was aung sung su kyi
so was kim dae jung

Yes, but not for corruption,

babasoty:
In as much as I condemn in totality the acts of corruption attributed to Bode George and also the little time he did for it, I don't think there is any law in Nigeria that strips you of your fundamental freedom of association, even if you an ex-con or not, that's his basic right,

Whether we like it or not-- he has paid for his crime even if we feel its lenient and would love to see him do more time--- but you can't rob a man of his fundamental human rights nor his right to associate.

He has a right to associate with anybody but not with the president of my country who just said he had no foreign accounts,

@All
Knowledge in all spheres of human learning is based on certian fundamentals. The area of satellites can therefore not be different. Let us return to the fundamentals of satellites and all these petty questions will stop. The fundamental is knowing what to do when a new satellite or frequency has been discovered and announced. To prevent this thread from been overfilled with request just visit any of the known sites that are famous with satellite news eg lyngsat or flysat for details of transponder frequencies, channels, transmission formats, dish sizes and footprint area. We should only be talking about feeds and temporarily free channels.

I am very scared of the many concessions of the GEJ government to the governors so he could stay i power. Therefore I support the change going to Abuja not the change in Abuja. Buhari/Bakare is my choice. Let us show upright and honest Nigerians that we will vote for them if they aspire for any elective office.

Olawale86:
hello guyz in guru, plz help me out of this how to share card to 3 ways with rs232cable

, hmm, guyz in the guru, lol

, we need change in Nigeria, I will support any trusted man/woman who has proven character and integrity.
It is just unfortunate that the thread will be hijacked by ethnic bigotry and insult after some few posts which is fast becoming a trend that i have noticed on Nairaland. Even if the Buari/Bakare ticket loose the April election, it will be written down in the annals of this country that they went beyond mere rhetorics.
After all Dr Martin Luther King Jr.  who championed the freedom of the blacks in the US did not become a President or live to see one become but his courage and actions were acclaimed to be the foundation of what we see today in Obama.
If I do not vote in any of the elections I will certainly vote for the Buari/Bakare ticket, I am also moving from just complaining about my country to making the right changes in the country. We should be talking about change going to Abuja, not change in Abuja.

, sounds like special adviser on despirate affairs!

, wonder why this place is so quiet, 'the done must currently be doing' the new word 'Blackpool' will be getting a meaning very soon,

@ Hannie,
I am not suprised that you replied with cheap insult as this as become the strategy of many people on NL.
For your information, Ajimobi, who I have nothing against, was in the Senate between 2003 and 2007 on the platform of AD. On the formation of AC now ACN, he went to ANPP where he contested against Alao Akala in 2007. I am bold to say that He wouldn't have received up to half of the 200,000+ plus votes if not that AC sponsored a weak canditate who emerged through the unpopular concensus option pushing other canditates into other political parties and Ladoja who directed his followers to vote for the ANPP canditate. Ajimobi only re-entered the ACN about 6 or 8 months ago. I am making reference to history so the elders of ACN will learn from their obvious past. And that is if they ever get to read this piece. I will further reply you if your responce to this post is mature and civil.

, the same imposition that led to AC's loss in 2007 is playing it's self out again in 2011. One would have thought that the party elders would have gotten wiser and particularly become weary of cross carpeting politians like Adedoja did in 2007 and now Ajimobi in 2011.This people should be reminded that it is not only election rigging that keep bad people in government, the so called progressives too do when they fail to do the right thing.