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Garri with milk, fried/dried meat? I guess all these were before deregulation, now you will either have to soak your garri overnight or soak in the morning and come back after work to enjoy it
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Beaf:
Dude, in the diesel consumption arena, small business owners are a micro-dot. What small business user can be compared to the likes of Nigerian Breweries for example? What that single company consumes in a day is what thousands of small users consume in a year.

The bit about trucks is guesswork, because Nigeria has kept recording growth in the construction industry.

The 50% drop in consumption of diesel after deregulation can only be attributed to a drop in fraud. By the time all this shakes through, there is sure to be an eye-popping drop in the fuckry that is reported as fuel consumption in Nigeria as well.

@ Beaf,
Was has the govt. done with the money she got from deregulating diesel?

Do you have any answer to this?

bodejohn:
According to govt. sources some amount was budgeted for fuel subsidy last year but it was overpaid by about a trillion naira, that leaves the govt with some one trillion deficit.
But there is no amount budgeted for subsidy in this year's budget how is the govt expected to make savings? You can only make savings on what you have, how does okonjo iweala plan to make savings on what was not budgeted for?
Will the govt take what she used to pay back from the marketers? A quick answer to my mind confirms the fact that there was no subsidy in the first place. But not to live in my ignorance if that is the case, how does the govt plan to rake in savings of subsidy condering the fact that she will no longer monitor consumption. I need some answers please.

According to govt. sources some amount was budgeted for fuel subsidy last year but it was overpaid by about a trillion naira, that leaves the govt with some one trillion deficit.
But there is no amount budgeted for subsidy in this year's budget how is the govt expected to make savings? You can only make savings on what you have, how does okonjo iweala plan to make savings on what was not budgeted for?
Will the govt take what she used to pay back from the marketers? A quick answer to my mind confirms the fact that there was no subsidy in the first place. But not to live in my ignorance if that is the case, how does the govt plan to rake in savings of subsidy condering the fact that she will no longer monitor consumption. I need some answers please.

Beaf:
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Abeg, learn what deregulation means so you don't ask such questions.

You mean you are actually uttering curses, because you feel you have a right to be paid by govt, rather than demand the right things or do a hard days work?
Are you proud to be a beggar? I find your position absolutely ridiculous and laughable.

Beaf, thank heavens you are here, Can you answer my question below? If you can succeed in convincing only me without abuses, I will be glad!

bodejohn:
There is a big question on my mind while thinking about this subsidy issues. Like most Nigerians, I believe too that our economy cannot forever support subsidy on petroleum products the way it is been run by the GEJ govt. But I also believe that the spirit and passion of the removal is also completely wrong at this time considering the less than zero preparation of the government not to only cushion the effect but to provide alternatives to suffering Nigerians.
All these got me think and I found a big hole in the argument of govt. according to govt. sources some amount was budgeted for fuel subsidy last year but it was overpaid by about a trillion naira, that leaves the govt with some one trillion deficit.
But there is no amount budgeted for subsidy in this year's budget how is the govt expected to make savings? You can only make savings on what you have, how does okonjo iweala plan to make savings on what was not budgeted for?
Will the govt take what she used to pay back from the marketers? A quick answer to my mind confirms the fact that there was no subsidy in the first place. But not to live in my ignorance if that is the case, how does the govt plan to rake in savings of subsidy condering the fact that she will no longer monitor consumption. I need some answers please,

Governor Jonah Jang of Plateau State has urged Nigerians to disregard the calls by the Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) to embark on a nationwide strike as they do not have the interest of nation at heart.

Jang, who said he is in support of the removal of the fuel subsidy, noted that Nigerians like ‘awoof’ (freebies) too much and that it is time for that to end. He spoke to journalists at the State House, Abuja, when he came to brief President Goodluck Jonathan of the situation of things in Plateau State.

“I am hundred percent in support of the removal of fuel subsidy because we have allowed things to just happen anyway for too long,” he said. “You see, I think we just like 'awoof' let me just use that word. This 'awoof' thing has to stop. There is no country where everything is just free.”

The governor noted that even with the removal of subsidy, petrol is still not up to $1 a litre and it is still more expensive in other parts of the world, adding that anybody kicking against this is not being fair to Nigerians.

“Go to the US, it is $1 plus, go to the UK it is £1 plus; even Ghana with the removal of fuel subsidy there petrol is still more expensive than Nigeria,” he said. “I believe that this subsidy is for the good of the common man in Nigeria. Anybody that is saying he doesn't want subsidy removed is not being fair is not being sincere. This money that has been cornered by very few individuals can now be spread, more money can now go to state, more money can now go for development.”

Jang noted that what the NLC and other groups should watch out for is ensuring that the government put the proceeds into good use.

“So, I want to plead with the press; honestly speaking, this president was popularly elected and why do you think he will want to take decision that will make him unpopular?  But if being unpopular will be for the best interest of Nigeria, he has decided to take it and honestly we back him up. Honestly, the NLC has no interest of this nation at heart,” he said.

Speaking on situation in hitherto volatile Plateau State, the governor said the state has been quiet right so far. “The only attempt to bomb one church was foiled and we lost one policeman in the course of trying to foil it,” he said. “Otherwise, it has been quiet on the Plateau. The Special Task Force has been doing a good job.”

Link: http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/jang-calls-nlc%E2%80%99s-bluff

He who the gods wants dead, they first make mad,

faithin9ja:
@Bodejohn
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Sorry Bodejohn it appears you have missed the substantive point; when you pay anyone to bring something and sell at below cost, you then promise to reimburse the person, that person is bound to increase the number of items he says he has bought simply to get more money from you. The importers fake the amount of petrol they say they bring into the country, the government NNPC and her subsidiaries collude with the importers to falsify figures so there are much bigger payments. Every adult Nigerian knows that to get money from any government (or big private companies) you must give 'egunje' to see your payment.

Hence the $7billion (1 trillion naira) was probably paid for non-existent petrol.

With a free market anybody bringing petrol to the country is free to sell at any price he likes and not expect government to control the price or give him money.

When every Tom, Joystick, Harry, Obi, Ayo and Musa start bringing petrol if you like you sell yours at N200 and I sell mine at N80 - the customer can then decide where to buy.

As such the country no longer needs to spend N1 trillion to give anyone to bring petrol, leaving that money for other things, that's the hopeful saving.

The govt. made plans to pay for the subsidy in 2011, but there is plan to pay anybody in 2012 and the expected surplus money was not quoted in the budget, so what are they saving? i believe the savings, if there was any is already in the budget, so kolade and the rest are just going to Abuja for jamboree,

There is a big question on my mind while thinking about this subsidy issues. Like most Nigerians, I believe too that our economy cannot forever support subsidy on petroleum products the way it is been run by the GEJ govt. But I also believe that the spirit and passion of the removal is also completely wrong at this time considering the less than zero preparation of the government not to only cushion the effect but to provide alternatives to suffering Nigerians.
All these got me think and I found a big hole in the argument of govt. according to govt. sources some amount was budgeted for fuel subsidy last year but it was overpaid by about a trillion naira, that leaves the govt with some one trillion deficit.
But there is no amount budgeted for subsidy in this year's budget how is the govt expected to make savings? You can only make savings on what you have, how does okonjo iweala plan to make savings on what was not budgeted for?
Will the govt take what she used to pay back from the marketers? A quick answer to my mind confirms the fact that there was no subsidy in the first place. But not to live in my ignorance if that is the case, how does the govt plan to rake in savings of subsidy condering the fact that she will no longer monitor consumption. I need some answers please,

la Capri:
I don't envy GEJ's job cos Nigerians are difficult to rule.
We should stop fooling ourselves by saying d govt is corrupt.
The truth is dat we are all corrupt. Corruption is embedded  in the DNA of ALL Nigerians.

That happens to be the weakest argument I have ever heard in support of GEJ, no one will ever employ you with this kind of IQ!

One sachet of pure water is 10 naira.
A beef roll popularly called gala 150 naira.
One bag of rice is now 14K, etc,
This is all good since our subsidised petrol is no longer crossing the boards. No wonder the Aso Rockers budgeted 1billion for food, they knew what their infamous new year gift would become.

There is a big question on my mind while thinking about this subsidy issues. Like most Nigerians, I believe too that our economy cannot forever support subsidy on petroleum products the way it is been run by the GEJ govt. But I also believe that the spirit and passion of the removal is also completely wrong at this time considering the less than zero preparation of the government not to only cushion the effect but to provide alternatives to suffering Nigerians. All these got me think and I found a big hole in the argument of govt. According to govt. Sources some amount was budgeted for fuel subsidy last year but it was overpaid by about a trillion naira, that leaves the govt with some one trillion deficit. But there is no amount budgeted for subsidy in this year's budget how is the govt expected to make savings? You can only make savings on what you have, how does okonjo iweala plan to make savings on what was not budgeted for? Will the govt take what she used to pay back from the marketers? A quick answer to my mind confirms the fact that there was no subsidy in the first place. But not to live in my ignorance if that is the case, how does the govt plan to rake in savings of subsidy condering the fact also that she will no longer monitor consumption. I need some answers please,

Link: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2012/jan/04/national-04-01-2012-008.html

The Enugu State Co-ordinator of Neighbour2Neighbour Jonathan/Sambo Campaign Organization, who worked for the emergence of Jonathan as president, Dr. Chinedu Jideofo-Ogbuagu, has condemned the decision of the Federal Government to remove fuel subsidy.

He described the development as bad luck to the country.
Jideofo-Ogbuagu said: “We laboured and sacrificed greatly for Goodluck during the April 2011 presidential campaign. I lost my brand-new jeep and other valuables worth N17 million and almost lost my life to armed robbery attack at Kogi/Benue border on February 18, as I was taking Jonathan campaign materials from Abuja to Enugu. Eight months later and with Goodluck Jonathan as our president, fuel has jumped from N65 to N200 per litre. Only bad luck could produce such an outrageous and ridiculous price. Was this what I fought and almost died for?”
Also, a renowned Professor of Economics and former vice chancellor of Crescent University, Ogun State, Sherifdeen Tella, has faulted the Federal Government’s decision to remove the subsidy.

In his reaction, Prof. Tella said the decision would spell doom for the nation if allowed to continue because the policy failed to take into consideration the informal sector production unit that depend on petroleum for operation.
Tella, who was also the former Dean, Faculty of Social Science and Management, Olabisi Onabanjo University (OOU), said other sectors that power their operations with small generators would find it hard to survive, which could result to unemployment.

“Unemployment with its attendant social implications as well as inflation should be expected to rise within three months from now,” he said.
Prof. Maduabuchi Dukor of the Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka, who described the decision as authoritarian and despotic also expressed similar concerns. He said the policy was an ‘undemocratic action induced by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank economic imperialism, which only ends in the empowerment of corruption and corrupt office holders through direct and indirect appropriation of the national wealth and the excess oil revenue’.
Although the current Head of Department of Business Administration, Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka, Prof. Ezinma Nwadiogwa Nnabuife, hailed the decision because of its long term benefit to the economy. She said the wrong timing of its implementation had imposed suffering on the people.
According to her, the full implementation of the policy had hiked the pump price of fuel and ushered an astronomical increase in transport fares across the country.


I dey laugh o

Oga moderator, I think you have to act on this Sophieamore1 guy.
This is a civil group, how can one man be jumping on anyone who has a different opinion/idea to his?
Sophieamore, even if Obnelly is wrong, will your harsh words make him right? Learn to use your energies on more constructive things.

maclatunji:
I watch them yesterday on NTA. A girl amongst them read a statement that seemed too heavily-worded for her grasp of English! They are a group of paid hungry wannabes.

If they were actually rented to do that job, the person who brought them on must definitely be a retard.
I couldn't believe such low lives could be used to convince Nigerian youths.

I am at a loss here, I keep hearing that it is not govt's business to provide health, power, roads etc but she takes my taxes every month. Does anybody here pay taxes? I pay between 12 - 15% of my annual income including my overtime as taxes, this was a whooping 30K in dec 2011 alone and yet I get nothing in return from this useless govt and someone asks me not to blame GEJ. There is no security, no water, no power, bad roads, no jobs, no good leadership and corruption is all time high. If the govt. is willing to remove all the subsidies, I will care less if my taxes are returned back to me with interest.

And Jesus wept, He cried as he was overwhelmed by the emotion of losing a friend and the pain and anguish on the family of the deceased. But he didn't just weep to leave them in despire he took charge of the situation and brought back joy to the faces of those who cried that day. As GEJ wept, is there a slightest feeling that he was overwhelmed by emotion or a clearly thought out drama? Is he stepping out of the situation with the smallest plan to reduce the anguish caused by his inactions? While I am not a religious bigot, it is clearly inappropriate to compare the tears of both men.

As much I like Buhari and would still prefer him to a thousand GEJs but I think it's time for him to move on.
I was impressed when he said he wouldn't go to court if he losses the 2011 election.
It's a herculean task to establish that a presidential election in Nigeria did not conform to the electoral codes.
Best he could have gotten would just have been a split decision with the majority decision in favour of the incumbent.
Buhari IMO should move on and allow Nigerians to live and bear with this "Fresh Air"

Pharoh:
Why all these and will people go to hell fire if they don't worship God today or conduct today's service from their home? .  

This is just very sad.

This unfortunate statement would not have been made if the security agencies are doing their job and not always telling us they are on top of the situation when the tragedies have already happened. But considering the fact that our governments at all levels have misplaced their priorities, it will be a good idea to keep as much distance as possible from public places.
I would not be surprised if the FG says she is going to deregulate security since the famous cabal has hijacked the security agencies.
May the souls of victims find rest!

This did not come to me as a surprise after all, Aso Rock is to spend 500M on food stuffs only this year.I have been trying to looking for the the next year's budgetary figure.

And by the way, there was another 300M budgeted for cooking utensils 2011. Looks like the first and second families use their utensils for a year otherwise how do we explain the budget for the same utensils again.

So much from a government that is asking Nigerians to sacrifice for the progress of the nation.

warrior01:
is it now about the messenger or the message being passed?  it's now i understand the saying that 'if men were God,
Gej, be careful they just hate you for no reason

Without a reason indeed! Like Libya hated Ghadaffi without a reason.

I can't but just commend the efforts of people who believed this forum could be revived after the civil war caused by the dongles. I for one completely lost faith in the revival of the forum, permit me to retrieve my words.
I must say that the quality of contributions in the last 3 to 5 pages has been most informative and educating reminiscence of what the forum used to offer.
I also salute the courage of the new folks, let's keep learning together.

, This nation is filled with several inconsistencies.
Were we not told by the fresh air army a little while ago that absence of fuel scarcity was a plus for the I have no shoe coroner? Did GEJ promise to remove fuel subsidy when he was blindly voted for?
If the removal of the subsidy was such a novel idea, why has the FG failed to convince the equally corrupt national assembly filled with the presidents men. We all know that the fuel subsidy will ground the activities of government not because of the burden it posses to the economy but because it is heavily laden with mis management and corruption. How will a government remove the only social impact it makes in the life of the citizenry. For beaf who was asking about the state governments. How much does the states take from the federation account compared with the fed govt. Even in US, their govt subsidies agriculture, the richest sector of their economy. This is why I blame the labour unions in this country. Why go on strike for increase wages when the necessary infrastructure to fast track the development of the country is degenerating at an irreparable rate.

Not sure whether this topic has any thing to do with politics but i will just stick it here and it can be moved to the proper thread later.
First, the ground rules, please do not turn this to government bashing or canvasing for any political party as that is not on my mind as i start this topic.

What has living in Nigeria thought you?
I will explain, there are some skills that we have learnt as people living in this country, 9ja.
Like running after molue buses in Lagos, maybe not as before since there are Lagbuses now.

For me the skill i have learnt ranges from driving on rough roads, dogging potholes, repairing my generator myself, using 2 or 3 even 4 sim phones to carrying a portable radio around everywhere i go.

Some of these skills you might not learn if you do not leave here.

What has living in Nigeria thought you?

I was actually surprised to see the pump that heralded the handing over ceremony.
At a point i was like did i miss something? Was he already confirmed as the substantive chairman?
He should just concentrate on making the most of the time he has as the acting chair and leave the talk.
We are have overdose of their talks already.

I won’t probe Idris - Audu

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THE governorship candidate of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in Kogi State, Prince Abubakar Audu, has reiterated his resolve not to probe the outgoing administration of Governor Ibrahim Idris if voted into office.

This came even as thousands of the Peoples Democratic Party’s (PDP) supporters, on Sunday, defected to the ACN in Olamaboro, Ankpa and Omala local government areas of the state.

To express their displeasure with the PDP, the members who defected openly tore and destroyed their membership cards.

People were excited when the campaign train of the governorship candidate of the ACN made a stop at the respective council.

The Ankpa Township Stadium was not only filled to capacity, but also overflowed into the adjoining streets when Audu came to the arena.

A former House of Representatives member and the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) senatorial candidate for Kogi East during the April elections, Honourable Attai Idoko Ali, also joined Audu’s campaign campaign.

Audu had earlier visited the Otaru of Otabaka in Olamaboro, Chief Ademu Abu; the Onu of Ankpa, Alhaji Abdulmalik Umar and the Onu of Ife and chairman of Omala Traditional Council, Chief Boniface Musa.

At the three palaces, the ACN candidate promised to build befitting palaces for all traditional rulers in Kogi State and raise their present monthly allocation of three per cent to 20 per cent if voted into office.

He also promised to make the welfare of all traditional rulers a priority by buying limousines for all the first class chiefs.

Link: http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/31908-i-wont-probe-idris-audu

This guy has finished the treasury even before been elected!

Culture and religion are two of the deadly things that we always hold on to especially when we do in ignorance mixed with poverty. What was the husband of the woman in question doing while the wife was fasting or did he not know from elementary reproduction that it takes two to procreate? Same man would have sent the the woman packing if she had only girls like they are half children. It beats my imagination why someone will be killing the tissues and cells that was suppose to nurture the expected child with fasting. Culture has laid a very wrong foundation for our lives and religion is helping us to make even more wrong choices as we build.

, yes indeed, they will fade away just as we wait for his government and clueless leadership to fade away from our nation and memory. I have never been this disgusted with a Nigerian government, i do not expect him to fix the nation's woes in a day or even in 4 years, but i can't simply see the proverbial ray of light at the end of the tunnel.

From my personal experience, the services i receive from standard chartered bank is excellent. The only con is that they are way too expensive to run. My money transfers and online payments are done in minutes worse case in hours. Actually the core of scb's banking operation is international money transfer. You will not see many people giving credit to scb, this is because a large percentare of their customers are the big time money bags who would most likely not visit nairaland.

@ Gen Buahri,
Much more than rigging contributed to the perceived victory of GEJ during the last polls. For me, i think ethnic and religious bigotry with deep hatred for Buahri were top on the list of why he lost and will loose again if he contests again. I campaigned and voted for Buahri and i am proud i did but the facts of the election cannot be judged at any tribunal or court of law. While i am not wishing the president and his co travellers evil the failure or success of this government will be the tribunal verdict for Nigerians who been adults and literates have cheaply subjected their reasoning to orchestrated propaganda run during and after the elections by the agents of the state in both the print and electronic media. How do one explain a person who in one breath complain that our delegates to the last CHOGM was 6times bigger than that of the UK only to say few moments later that the president has good plans for the nation only that some people do not want him to succeed.
Lastly, i think Buahri should move on and level the country to continue in the path that we have chosen for ourselves by our foolishness.

Need i say better luck nigeria next time?

folex:
@bodejohn pls send me a mail with details of the background stuff, however with an HD decoder option. Ma mail is donfolex@gmail.com
Will be expecting to hear from you. Merci

najmgiwa:
@bodeJohn,

kindly post your phone number or call\(text|) 08155554638 am intsd in your stuffs.
thanks.

Sorry all,
The items are no longer available.

So many funny analogies, i forgot for a moment that i wasn't in the jokes section.

Back to the issue, I do not expect the people who do business in Nigeria to be friendly to Nigerians.
Before you ask why, the cost of doing business in Nigeria is high and to make it worst skyrocketing everyday.
There was a time that MAN published that the cost of making a kilometer of road in Nigeria is the highest in the world.
I will not put the sole blame on the government alone but to drive the cost of production and service delivery down in Nigeria we will need more than calling some people bloody whatever.

If i can recollect very well, was it not a Nigerian company, HITV, that jacked the rights payment to EPL up before they were eventually consumed by what they created? When HITV has the rights to the premiership, what did they do to CTL and viewing centers?

We need to bring down the cost of doing business in Nigeria down before we can think of affordable and qualitative service delivery.

For the guy who would like to watch satellite TV without been disturbed by the weather,
Get a big dish, preferably a 2.4m or 3.0m, call a technician to direct it at Pas 7/10 C band.
You will received the dstv signals and you should be ready to pay them in South African Rands.
This will not completely remove the weather interruptions but at least it will be reduced to less than 5%.
God will however have mercy on you when your landlord comes calling with your rent if you do not already have a building of your own.