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italo: Same with everything. Everything remains what they are but the power of God can become active in and through them. E.g Food remains food but when I bless it, God's power can transform it into much more; like medicine to cure sickness etc. A building remains a building but when it is sanctified and dedicated as a house of the Lord, God's power can become active in and through it. Jesus' garment and St Paul's handkerchief remained pieces of cloth but God's power became active through them. Same with images and sacramentals.

Paul never tied his handkerchief to a place where he bows to or kneel before it because it carries power. Did he? He cannot bow to his shadow because it carries power.

Why can't you make a bronze snake and put in front of your church or in your house for healing purposes?

I have come to understand that delusion is at work here. As it has been purposed.

So you agree that God's power became active in those images?

italo: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Very funny.

Syncan: ^^^Never knew he had this sense of humour

Pygru: I no even understand wetin you write.
Wetin you dey talk?

shdemidemi: @ bookmark

I do not agree that you have debunked the meaning of godhead atall.

italo: LMAO!

Tell us the next joke.

Anony:
the sentence does
not necessarily lead us to the
conclusion that Jesus Christ is not
God especially if you hold that God
is one being in three persons. One
of the persons of God can easily
play the role of mediator between
God and men; even more so since
He took the form of a man.
The argument which my rebuttal
actually addressed - and which I
noticed you didn't contest here -
was your argument that a
mediator cannot be of either party.
This is what I rejected as untrue
because a mediator is a role played
and not the nature of the player.

ijawkid: And who said you are a stable??.....

You need persons like frosbel to help you to be stable.....

If you can believe that Jesus is the 2nd person in a Godhead(nothing of this sort nor does the expression exist in the scriptures but it is of mens tradition) then you need somebody to re-allign your thoughts to the truth.......

You see why frosbel said Jesus is not tradition??.........

italo: @ Boomark,

I never saw the jargons you wrote there until now.

You made a dumb post...and only you gave a dumb reply...

And you are happy.

Syncan: Hahaha, only catholics view posts on religious section now right? It was so bad even renowned trolls stayed away. Lol , you can still delete it before other forumites start judging you based on it.

Syncan: ^^^ And the fact that no one commented after those many views did not tell you it was been avoided like plaque. What is clear is clear. My question to you is yet to be answered. All you've done is tell me what you think. Outrageous private claims of interpretation of scripture.

hisblud: hmm interesting reference! Now you are in agreement with men [deepsight and mr anony] academic discuss? SMH! Dont worry am following the intellectual analysis of various discussant, but wait could it be they might afterall be wrong according to your earlier post since they are just men rationalizing on verses. De more excited i am and by the way, WHO among them - deepsight and anony- are you in agreement with now?

Syncan: Exactly! That's why I take heed lest your false doctrines lead me away from the apostolic teachings. And to talk of Sabbath,You never proved to me that the apostles truncated the last day of the week, for the first day of the week as the lords day. It doesn't matter your rhetoric,all i ask is using your own basis of judgement of me "where is it in the bible that we should work on Saturday and keep Sunday as holy". I and you observe this, tell me why you do, since "Only bible" is your reference.

italo: Are you worshiping a false god or not?

Deep sight:
It certainly says that there is one
God only, and one mediator
between God and Men, the man
Christ Jesus.
It saddens me that your entire
rebuttal failed to take cognizance
of the key and overriding
importance of the meaning and
function of the word " mediator" in
the context of the words "between
God and men"

frosbel: you this 'nothing to contribute' fellow, go and get a real JOB.

plappville: Thanks bro, I will scan through the link....it's just annoying how people spread lies. I means as par the thread. But you will agree with.me that the world rest day is Sunday Not everyday.. And this was initiated by the church.

italo: You kneel at the name of Jesus...but that wasnt the name given to him by Mary.

She never mentioned "Jesus." She spoke Aramaic.

You are also worshiping false god, right?

Syncan: The link I posted, takes you to what the Christians believed in, around the time they collated the books of bible into a book. It also gives you scripture passages which backed their belief. Those quotes were made by the council in 787AD. Read and air your view.

plappville: Exodus 20: The Ten Commandments

20 And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy .
12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

The bolded is the only one that Christ fulfilled. I believe you do obey the others.

plappville: Hmmmm....still hiding under Catholic system. No matter how u twist it... Sunday was chosen becos of its connection to sun worship. In like manner, Christmas was chosen because of its connection to a Roman cult known as Mithraism. This cult worshiped the sun deity Mithra, whose birth was on December 25. Once the church realized that they could not overcome this popular pagan cult, they decided to adopt December 25 as a Christian day of worship. Or can you show me where Sunday worship and Christmas celebration is in the bible? *on the first day of the week they break bread together* this is where the initiation of Sunday service came to replace SAturday usual rest day. This whole thing is misinterpretation. YES, we can worship God any day, but God ordained Saturday as a day of rest not Sunday.

frosbel: Anony and team have gone AWOL.

hisblud: ok we [when i say "we", me, you and jman] are in agreement that its God(according to jman, you the Holyspirit) not angel that spoke about Jesus! Do you agree?

shdemidemi: Did the bible use die in that particular quote?

I believe I can understand what you are saying in 1 cor 15:28 like we have in so many other parts of the scripture. Christ also made reserved and humble statements which the apostle paraphrased in most of their letters. Behind all the humility, we want to know who Christ really is.

hisblud: to the bolded, gladly, jman, your fellow anti trinitarian rightly said it, God inspired the bible. Lol this is interesting, and yes am getting excited at how you people are fidgeting to deny what is stated in black and white.

italo: And your body is the temple of God.

ijawkid: I got this quote from the link you gave....


"for
the honor accorded to the image passes
over to its prototype, and whoever adores
the image adores in it the reality of what
is there represented."


My question is.....what's the difference between this act what the people who practice shintoism,buddhaism, etc do??.....

They infact adore,bow before and worship images or representations of there God(s).......

Abeg Jesus command this kin act??.....

Can't you guys worship the one true God the Father with out images and mouldings just as Jesus did??......

Syncan: Exactly the Point! The Image is an Image!