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Bidam: Have you lost your sense of reasoning? Stick to post,what do you understand by the word shadow.

Something that is not real. Shadow of something: something that is not the real thing.

I hope you will not sing love songs to me like syncan as we proceed?

ekenedegreat: @ boomark and shdemidemi, u guys re wonderful in scriptures and I luv u guys for dat.
@italo and sync, why do u catholics luv beating around d bush when captured in a tight coner? Or,is it becos of d so called delusion? It is a pity dat d bible u ve been bragging of being compiled by ur church/fathers is now strange to u and ur cohorts to understand. otherwise, where is d scriptural backing of ur idle worship,rosary, worshiping of saints?
Another question is can u tell/show us in d bible where jesus introduced d hail mary prayer or dat mary is d right person to intercede for us (humans) I mentiond jesus becos he is d father of christianity we re suppose to follow his foot steps and not dat of roman empire. D same jesus said dat he is d only way 2 d father dat no one comes to d father except through him.
Pls can u and ur cohorts answer dis question witout beating around d bush dis time?

Thank you bro. It always gladden my heart to put them in tight corner for the world to see their delusion clearly.

@truthislight
Olaadegbu will sentence you to eternal torment o. Your sins are many.

@Olaadegbu
what next? truthislight has answered you.

lagerwhenindoubt: Let me see. born again (yes) profession (once a vibrant evangelist) confessions (@Ola cannot possibly have done that many as I have )

You give the same answer a vexed Muslim in the Islam section once gave to me, I have to be Muslim and be able to read the koran in Arabic before I can comprehend anything he says.

I was ask if am a Christian just because i begged someone to explain john 14:3. Ola gave me a list to fill to make sure i am upto the standard of Christians that can receive answers to such question.

Abeg of more than 2 pages did not fetch me anything. In the end, he called me evil machine abi machination. I looked at him, i did not know what to do. If say i get sawing machine, i for land am for his ear. Peter my role model did his own too.

frosbel: he has no insight into the matter, you should know image123 by now !

I know him. Although Olaadegbu's case is 'worster' than his own, if not the worstest.

Goodafternoon dave

Good greetings sir str

we are waiting...

Nothing! The demons might even help them call it if their voice is not too loud.

The name given to men by which we are saved is power, one touch, they will bow and take Ben Johnson.

Delusion at work. Smh!!!

Bidam: Thank you my bro..these guys are shallow diggers.

Are you one of the idol worshipers?

alexleo: Pls my dear you dont need to confused. Lets just say these testimonies are not available to us. Just take a little time and go through this link below. you will find a beautiful and inspiring teaching on hell which frosbel presented in 2011. You will surely be blessed and the confusion you have will be cleared. May God bless your reading.

https://www.nairaland.com/767334/why-hell-integral-gospel#767334.10

I can see why you are in love with that teaching, he said something where he managed to quote the bible to support eternal torment, while the bible said a different thing.

Smh!!!

ninja4life: of course it does,he said he will throw sinners inot hell fire eternally.so which love do d christians talk about.

Psalm 30:5
New International Version (©2011)
For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may stay for the night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.

Are you saying that his anger does not last a moment? Even when all things are made new(new heaven and new earth), those who sinned in the old system of things will continue to suffer His wrath?

I believe they will also be begging for mercy as they suffer.

Does the wrath of God last forever?

PhenomenonVFX: As much as I see what u are trying to do, I fear it would only be futile. The church has been instutitionalized. There is so much money at stake now. Most pastors got their "calling" because of the money. Others who got the true calling and dont even believe in tithing are being influenced by the majority.
I once used to attend a church were the pastor started threnghtening that he wont be conducting any marriage or burial ceremony for any family who doesnt pay tithes regularly. And that they will start keeping a list of tithe payers. I have seen a pastor who became hostile and indirectly pronouncing curses on the altar on people because they didnt give as much as he expected for a church building. That day scared me sh!tless. Must have been the last day I took any pastor seriously.

Very scary indeed.

Please can anyone furnish me with list of churches that do not compel their members to pay tithe.

busolayemi: I knew Frosbel is an Heresy preacher....dint just imagine it's dis bad until I stumbled on this thread...What happens to the Rich man and Lazarus....And in hell, he lifted up his eyes....May God help us all...U dnt even believe in the Godhead...u probably dnt believe dat Jesus christ is Lord...and u r a christian Wats d basis of ur christianity....U r worse than a muslim...Cos even muslims believe in hell....Gush!

You are just angry as one of your colleagues. You cannot make good sensible judgement in this state.

For example, you don't even know the meaning of GODHEAD and keep using it against him. Does it make sense to accuse him in ignorance? You are just holding unto what you think is true which they taught you.

alexleo: He presented this in 2011. Not 2013. Now anybody who reads that teaching with a sincere heart will feel the touch of the Holy Spirit. Very inspiring. After reading it last night I had a wonderful prayer time before I slept. Every power of the devil that is fighting against frosbel to push him out of his God-given mission be destroyed in Jesus name. Amen and Amen.

What touched you is fear and wanting to love God out of fear the of being dumped in the lake of fire . Why not try making Him your friend just because he loved you first, unconditionally. You will see that you will have nothing to fear because you have a friend that loves you more than you love yourself.

Then come back and try to know the true nature of hell or destruction by the lake of fire for the sake knowing it.

true2god: Does dat mean Frosbel has switched beliefs?

He is not a stiff necked Christian or those who have been purposed to remain deluded.

Syncan: I have told you if you lit a lamp, let it shine. You picked number 9 and you said what? Why not say what you have against number nine. Hahaha, you never change.

italo: But we have been doing it ourselves for 2000yrs.

Why then, do you want to kill yourself over us.

We are already doing your wish.

That's good.

alexleo: I say AMEN AND AMEN to this message in its entirety. God bless you my brother.

Whatsoever you tithe to the least of my brothers, that you tithe unto me. This is how to give to our Highpriest-Lord Jesus Christ.

Syncan: Is that it? Thought there was going to be an earth shaking revelation from the bible my Church Fathers gave to the world in 393AD.
I gave you my "Ten Thesis", truth as they are, you couldn't even fault any. I ask you again, Is that it?

that is it as it is. God turned his back on those that practice unrighteousness even when they had all the laws, ten commandments, the Ark etc.

If what is in the bible is not useful to a people, God will hand it over to those that will make use of it.

I picked one, no 9 which has bible quotes out of the ten so we can reason together, but the unteachable spirit made you to start singing love songs to me instead.

For now l have no interest in teaching/reasoning with the catholics. It is just a waste of time due to something the will of man cannot alter.

obadiah777: AND THE KING OF THE PHARISEES STEPS ON THE SCENE. PRAYING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREETS AS USUAL AND PRETENDING TO BE HOLY

Maybe you mistook me for most-hi.
I spotted you both with your big cloths and gigantic rings enjoying the pretence and greetings.

Bro huntax, fellowship online and especially offline in church(gathering of Christians). But do not let church doctrine keep you in bondage.

Study the word of God, read thread discussions and ask questions not just to one person. And ask God to help you make wise decisions.

My concern here is that nobody feeds huntax with hunted food as he fast.

this belligerent pharisee chief is giving him another kind of food, kwashiorkored food for that matter.

Smh!!! For the hunted.

italo: Are you saying Joshua worshipped idols?

Are you saying you cannot study the word of God?

Delusion is incurable and those affected remains unteachable. They will chose to believe a lie no matter how obvious the truth is.

What am doing here is to show other readers how unteachable the catholics are, not to teach you guys. We have been through these things before. That is why i said earlier on i cannot help you guy because of 2 thessalonians 12:11. Do it yourself.

Syncan: hahahaha, I have lit a lamp! I have lit a lamp! Why all this shout, If you have lit a lamp, says Syncan to Boomark,let it shine to the world to see (Lk11:33), why do you need a prodding.

Ok o. I have not seen your own light. The word of God is light not church candle light.

italo: So Joshua didnt worsip God in spirit?

Don't you have bible to read about the "cover" i told you about? Ex 25:17-22. You have not known why he lay on his face before the ark and you want to know if he worshiped in spirit.

Go and study 1st, then i can confidently answer your question.
Habakkuk 2:18
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
What profits the graven image that its maker has shaped it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that themaker of his work trusts in it, to make dumb idols?

This is for those putting their trust in molten images, seeking to connect with GOD through it.

SMH!!!

Syncan: Now you want to give me your own interpretation to what my beloved said, yet you told there is no qualm in my hearing his words and interpreting it on my own. Why are you so shifty? I am happy my beloved is not like you, oh "Thou art all fair, O my love, and there is not a spot in thee. ..." song of solomon4:7.

Are you now so afraid of me or afraid to be exposed?

Which interpretations do you want believe, the one from your church fathers? That is why are not sure of yourself. You can invite one of your fathers so we can discuss those verses while you watch. ie if you are not capable?

Syncan: Dearest Brethren. The Gospel preached today by the Holy Catholic Church, is a Gospel that has Love(Agape) as it's key. We love God above all things and we love our neighbors too.

1.No one can accuse a lover, physically absent from the beloved, of not having Love because the lover does not have the beloved Images, nor does the presence of the Images in the lover's possession, signify a greater love at all times.

2. It is however erroneous to accuse a lover of cheating or creating a new beloved by his/her possession of the Image of the beloved.

3. The beloved have never been known to be disapproval of the possession of their Images by their lover

4. Hugging and kissing are acceptable public show of affection to a beloved. (I surprised my beloved once, met her sleeping, a framed Image of me just a few inches from her body, I knew she must have been clutching it close to her heart. I guess you know how I felt...I was definitely not angry). It is no qualm when applied to their Images.

5. Bowing, kneeling etc are things we do to fellow men, do I understand that it is allowed to worship men?

6. You ask why don't we make Images of snake, I answer that We make images of our beloved once.

7. When I say that the Image of my beloved does not replace my beloved, and I am not at rest till I meet my beloved face to face, please believe me.

8. Please understand that any disrespect done to the Image of my beloved hurts me in some way, no matter how small it is.

9. You say my beloved told me not to make any Image and you showed me where(Ex20:4-5), and I say that it meant more than that, for my beloved told me to make Images and I showed you where (Ex25:19,Num7:89).

10. You accuse me, You accuse me, Yet for almost two thousand years, my beloved have shown kindness to me, answering when I call, even with signs and wonders, making me do great things out of love. That's why even though you accuse me unfairly, I still Love You.

You cannot hate me. The one that corrects should be shown more love.

I have already seen how out-of-context your quotes in 9 are. Quote them with your explanations and i will show you what actually pleases our beloved. You must not switch to Paul's handky or shadow untill you get them(no 9) right.

I hear say you wan connect to God through an image. That means, what Jesus said about worshiping God in spirit no complete without images of unknown people?

italo: Which one did Joshua practise in Joshua 7:6...idol worship or worship in spirit?

Is this what to reply concerning Paul's handkerchief you used as reason to bow to a moulded images of unknown person's? You now moved to Joshua, tomorrow you will switch to Paul's handkerchief again.

Rev 18:4
"...Get out of her...."
Untill you do this, being deluded is inevitable. I can't help you my friend.

Go and study about the making of the ark. Focus on the "cover" between the cherubs and who commanded it according to His will and specifications.

SMH!!!

Syncan: ^^^You wont believe it, I'm actually Laughing out loud.

believe it or not, like my post Jor.

What i will do for the Catholics is to marry one of them(very beautiful somebody). But if she tries to comes to my house with her chaplet, then she must definitely go back to her mama.
I no try?

italo: Same with everything. Everything remains what they are but the power of God can become active in and through them. E.g Food remains food but when I bless it, God's power can transform it into much more; like medicine to cure sickness etc. A building remains a building but when it is sanctified and dedicated as a house of the Lord, God's power can become active in and through it. Jesus' garment and St Paul's handkerchief remained pieces of cloth but God's power became active through them. Same with images and sacramentals.



So you agree that God's power became active in those images?

Paul never tied his handkerchief on any thing to bow and kneel before it just because God worked through it.

Why can't you make images of the bronze snake and mount it in your church or home for healing purposes?

All your comparisons made no sense. Our God hates idol worship, whether you are doing it in a modern way or with style. Idol worship is idol worship. Very different from worship in spirit.

shdemidemi: Hmm ok, God bless.

These are not people you can help. I believe this is at work:

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
King James Version (KJV)
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

I tested it and confirmed it. What they believed about changing of Sabbath day to Sunday is man-made.

I showed them what it should be from Hebrew 3:4-10, the perfect will of God according to the new covenant, they called it dumb and of private interpretation. I begged them to show me something better, they never said..."pim." i tried to provoke them by boasting, but they never said "kpikim."

They have chosen to believe their church fathers instead of the word of God. They have chosen to believe a lie.

Delusion is at work. You cannot help them.