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shdemidemi: anybody can appear and disappear

When he appears you see an image and not the full godhead. Jacob said-

30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved

shdemidemi: you are right, the bible did not tell us how He looked. But, we were told He appeared. From our definition of appear, it is impossible to appear without been seen visibly. You and I know who the image of the invisible God is, don't we?

Bidam: false prophet

shdemidemi: when he appeared by the burning bush, we were told. when He sent angels we were told, this time, He was 'visible seen'(according to our definition).

shdemidemi: Genesis 17

King James Version (KJV)


17 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord [b]appeared [/b]to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

shdemidemi: I take it that you don't agree with that.. no problems at all. We have defined appeared as visibly seen.

ACTS 7
2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared[/b]unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,

3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.


By your definition of appeared as visibly seen, who was visibly seen here?

shdemidemi: bro, you half freed our Trinitarian thread o.

Bidam: Hypocrite.

shdemidemi: Good, you might slightly disagree with this next one. I am not sure but lets see how it goes cos you would definitely see characteristics of the image(CHRIST).

Genesis 3:8

“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day:…” Now what’s the key word there to establish whether He’s in human form? Walking

Do you agree?

shdemidemi: nah common, all for our edification. Please answer sincerely without prejudice.

shdemidemi: Assuming.. thank you. But we are talking about a situation where you are definitely around, a perfect image of you is what you can see in the mirror. TRUE OR FALSE?

shdemidemi: Did you read my initial question to him? I asked him who he see when he looks in the mirror, he said himself. This has nothing to do with his son. thank you.

truthislight: You mean Boomark son is also his image ?

Yes, thats true, we agree.

shdemidemi: Ok, do you agree that the visible image of our invisible God is Christ according to Colossians 1:15?

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

shdemidemi: Thank you, I can see we both agree on the meaning of appear.

My next question - when you look in the mirror, do you agree with me that you see an image of yourself?

shdemidemi: The point is that no image should take the place of Christ


16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer.

Rich4god: You see yourself... Catholics always say that they dont worship image and they believe that the images carries power. Now looking at the bolded above, whats the difference between you and the catholics you call idol worshipers?.

italo: Thank God, our most holy Catholic faith well precedes 1979.

Alleluia somebody!

shdemidemi: The guy avoids this thread like a plague

Bookmark, I asked you a question that as been left unanswered, pls address it

Bidam: Your post reeks of anti-christ. Let me ask you again, are you a christian?

shdemidemi: The word appeared is the Greek word optomahei, from which we get optometry. And it literally is translated—visibly seen.

Please confirm that statement is right.

shdemidemi: @bookmark, I got questions for you. Holla when you r here.

Bidam: Are you really a christian I don't think so.

Bidam: The Bible clearly states that there is only one God. Deuteronomy 6:4 states, “Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one.” Isaiah 44:6 states, “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me.” Clearly, these verses reveal that there is only one God. Yet, there are three separate persons in the Bible who are called God and have the characteristics only God can have. The Trinity is a difficult concept to grasp, because we are finite beings trying to explain an infinite God who is beyond our understanding.

benalvino: even frosbel that opens the thread is not staying on topic. I couldn't find you in the thread that ijawkid ran away from and his entourage lol. I see the thread you directed me to. and I smiled.

benalvino: if I wasn't a Trinitarian... this alone will make me believe in the trinity. I wonder how ijawkid and other frosbel teams against Trinitarians will feel about this.


Philippians 2:5-11

New International Version (NIV)


5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:


6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

I am angry at my self debating with you before. you ignore every thing about the bible. and not a single reason why Jesus did not exist before he was born is given.

honestly I don't see any reason for one to continue on this thread talking about it.
because Jesus says father Glorify me with the Glory I had with you before the world begin. please the bible is not a comic you hear.

true2god: If u r on the right track u need not afraid of any spiritual threat\curse . I tink u just need to learn more about the word of God in any area u dnt hav complete understandin.

We r all learners cos spiritual matters are vry vast and deep; i can say we knw nothing yet but always prove to knw much cos of the small education we assumed to hav acquired.

Remember that who God do not curse, no man can. We must operate in a spiritual pedestal such that no spiritual threat can intimidate us, by being right with God and prayerful, cos the world is full of evil and spiritual wickedness in high places.

And spend more of ur time in preaching the positive gospel.

Its well with u and all of us.

OLAADEGBU: 4. Frosbel deserves it.

(1 Peter 4:15).

You don't have to shed crocodile tears here because you are getting your just desserts. It is true Christians who suffer persecution and since you have been playing the devil's advocate on this forum you are getting what you deserve. It's either you like it or you lump it the fact remains that those words affected you so much to make you raise a pity party thread and this may be a sign that there may still be some trace of life in you. Take advantage of this warning. Repent and turn back to God in faith.