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Ubenedictus: it shows what she can do

Ubenedictus: Ijawkid quoted rev 1:5-6 not rev 3, and i rightly answered him. and as i said your questions are answered when you research on the hypostatic union.


Its not good when i alone do the work. Do well to read up on the hypostatic union and tell us if it answers you question.
Peace

Ubenedictus: now please tell me, how one can be truly God and yet be significantly less?

Bidam: Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of Christ..sinec you are dull in understanding..lemme also ask you a queshion...how many churches partnered with Paul? Dnt forget paul planted many churches in his journeys..and his focus was basically the gentiles..Most times he is always in the synagogues pleading and arguing both with jews and babarians alike..do you think he has time making tents? Infact i make bold to say that he never wanted to be a burden that was why he resorted to tent making NOt that it wasn't his right to eat off the gospel.

Richieboyn: Itz not advisable to argue with fools, cos de'll drag me down to their level. Dat applies 2u. I would av ansad u, bt I kw ur shallow brain will nt comprehend. So......no need.

Ubenedictus: do not bring your derogatory remarks here pls. point of correction verses 5 and 6 weren't Jesus words but johns so d bolded isn't exactly correct.
do well to read up on the hypostatic union that should answer your question. and as i said earlier this is just one aspect.

Ubenedictus: while on earth Jesus took our human nature! By that nature he took he was even less than the angels (heb 2:9). He was a creature like us all, with flesh and blood like us. The guy who created everything is now d thing he created. By his humanity He is thus under his fathers dominion just like i am. He can thus address the father as "my God" becos by his human nature dat is very true.
This is just one aspect.

Ubenedictus: it is revealed! We now know the truth! But revelation doesn't mean we can fathom it. GOD EXIST OF HIMSELF, it is a revealed truth, but i can't really fathon how from all eternity God just exist of himself!

Ubenedictus: i don't know, i usually skip d gender when i read.
Sorry if i made a mistake

Ubenedictus: Dear bookmark, i refuse to quote most of your comment becos i find some parts of it derogatory.


I'll ask you a question. Simple and direct,
DO YOU BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO BE TRUELY GOD AND YET BE "LESS" THAN THE FATHER?
Thank you

mumumugu: WAR + SHIP =WARSHIP

Ubenedictus: was it the servants who went and said "they have no wine"? A simple yes or no will do.

Missonas: Who is Baal??we dnt av images of snakes and d likes.when u think of Jesus how do u imagine him in ur mind's eye?we depicted that in pictures and statues though we dnt noe aw they all luk lyk we jst imagine.these patron saints all lived deir lives in the Service of GOD.when u read the lives of these saints(use google)then u wud c d difference. Mary was priviledged to be the mother of our saviour we using dat priviledge dnt fault us.2us d saints have never and will never equal Our God or His Son.

Missonas: Im quite sure u did not read through this thread properly as dis has been explained already.We believe that Jesus is the Only Way to God bt we also believe that the Holy spirit which Jesus gave to us as Our Counsellor intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will.our main aim is to get to Christ hwevr means we employ along the way its 4rm our heart to Christ's ears.read romans 8:26-27.

Missonas: No because images dnt talk.bt we have had so many pple give testimonies as to the way we choose to live our lives which is different 4rm d path Jesus told us to.im sure u wud undrstand dis because frm of old we have been made 2undrstand dat dreams and visions are indeed real

Missonas: No because images dnt talk.bt we have had so many pple give testimonies as to the way we choose to live our lives which is different 4rm d path Jesus told us to.im sure u wud undrstand dis because frm of old we have been made 2undrstand dat dreams and visions are indeed real

Ubenedictus: sis you're the best! Our knowledge is defective.
I just feel like screaming "allelujah"

Lovethywilbedon: LOGIC and REASON can only take the human person so far. when the evidence ends, LOVE OF TRUTH AND FAITH continues. *Strictlymi* what other explanation do you need? considering the fact that you are a catholic who belives in the MOST HOLY TRINITY. I can see you take fun in repeating the mistake of the Great Theologian "Saint Augustine of Hippo". know this brother, there are things that ara ABOVE and BEYOND human LOGIC and REASON, but that nevertheless, could be belived BECAUSE it is a "REVEALED TRUTH": The TRINITY is this kind of true teaching that comes down to us through GOD'S REVELATION and not our finding it out.

Ubenedictus: the trinity doesnt have "two parts of a story to confuse us" truthfully, the knowledge of the trinity isn't different from the above questions.

Ubenedictus: hope the bolded isn't sacasm? I don't alway appreciate it.
For the above it depends on what you understand by "the father is the God of Jesus", and what you understand by "equality".

chukwudi44: There are also several things we don't understand about God but we just believe by faith because the scripture just ask us to.

Eg How did God come into existence?

How long did he exist alone?

How did he aquire his powers

How did a virgin Mary get pregnant?

All this questions defies commonreasoning but we only believe in God because the scripture so teaches.

Both the father,Jesus and the holy spirit are all described as God in the bible yet the same bible claimed there is only one God.Jesus imself alluded to this in his response to Apostle philip when he asked to see the father.He said the father is in me and I in him. He who has seen me has seen my father

chukwudi44: There are also several things we don't understand about God but we just believe by faith because the scripture just ask us to.

Eg How did God come into existence?

How long did he exist alone?

How did he aquire his powers

How did a virgin Mary get pregnant?

All this questions defies commonreasoning but we only believe in God because the scripture so teaches.

Both the father,Jesus and the holy spirit are all described as God in the bible yet the same bible claimed there is only one God.Jesus imself alluded to this in his response to Apostle philip when he asked to see the father.He said the father is in me and I in him. He who has seen me has seen my father

Bidam: Paul has not always taken advantage of his right to receive financial support but that does not mean he never had this right. If Christian ministers do not have the right to demand financial support from Christians, Paul's argument would be meaningless. His point is that he has not taken what was rightfully his, and not that he has given up what did not belong to him in the first place. Therefore, the right to receive financial support is for the minister to temporarily relinquish whenever he deems appropriate for the sake of the gospel, but it is never up to the Christians to withhold the money from him.


Or is it only I and Barnabas who must work for a living? Who
serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and
does not eat of its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink of
the milk? Do I say this merely from a human point of view?
Doesn't the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of
Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is
it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he says this for us,
doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the
plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in
the hope of sharing in the harvest. If we have sown spiritual seed
among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from
you?…Don't you know that those who work in the temple get their
food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in
what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has
commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their
living from the gospel1 cor 9:6-11, 13-14 NIV

EXAMPLES ABOUND IN
SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE
PHILIPPIANS AND
MACEDONIANS WHO
PARTNERED WITH PAUL TILL
THEY GO BROKE...Spare us your
hypocritical sermons..you can
fool the rest not me.

Bidam: Paul has not always taken advantage of his right to receive financial support but that does not mean he never had this right. If Christian ministers do not have the right to demand financial support from Christians, Paul's argument would be meaningless. His point is that he has not taken what was rightfully his, and not that he has given up what did not belong to him in the first place. Therefore, the right to receive financial support is for the minister to temporarily relinquish whenever he deems appropriate for the sake of the gospel, but it is never up to the Christians to withhold the money from him.


Or is it only I and Barnabas who must work for a living? Who
serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and
does not eat of its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink of
the milk? Do I say this merely from a human point of view?
Doesn't the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of
Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is
it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he says this for us,
doesn't he? Yes, this was written for us, because when the
plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they ought to do so in
the hope of sharing in the harvest. If we have sown spiritual seed
among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from
you?…Don't you know that those who work in the temple get their
food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in
what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has
commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their
living from the gospel1 cor 9:6-11, 13-14 NIV

EXAMPLES ABOUND IN
SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE
PHILIPPIANS AND
MACEDONIANS WHO
PARTNERED WITH PAUL TILL
THEY GO BROKE...Spare us your
hypocritical sermons..you can
fool the rest not me.

Alwaystrue: Apologies Image123, I am just reading your response now. I am sorry about that but contribute if you have anything to contribute as it's a sensitive topic.

striktlymi: Good morning Chuks,

I read through the 'article of faith' you put up there and all I can think about is the proclamation of Christ' apostles: "Didn't our hearts burn within us while he was speaking with us". It is indeed true that the more one lingers on the mystery of the most holy trinity, the more confused one gets.

How can God be one and three at the same time? How can the Father be the source and origin of the blessed trinity and at the same time the Son and Holy spirit are equal to him? So many questions that defies the very core of logic and reason when we discuss the trinity; as indeed so many pillars of Christianity.

I believe firmly in the 'definitions' given by the church even though I do not understand them except I see it through 'the looking glass of faith'. Thanks for the input!

striktlymi: Good morning Boomark,

You are most welcome to take whatever seat you want sir, even mine is available if you want it . But be advised that Rey has his eyes on you.

alexleo: The bold still remains only in your personal views as far as am concerned.
You people have not shown us where the apostles or Jesus condemned tithe. Shall we say they didnt remember that there was anything called tithe and for that reason they couldnt comment about it whether its good or bad? NO. It was mentioned in the new testament. So since it was mentioned, it means they knew about tithe and they didnt condemn it. Are you now more than them to condemn it outrightly?(same question you asked me i throw back to you my dear) Do i know more than Paul, Peter, James and Jude you asked me? My answer- Sorry, i dont even know at all thats why i must stick to the Holy Spirit who knows it all. Who also inspired these apostles to write, and since the apostles are not here to clarify this issue then i have to go to the originator of these words- THE HOLY SPIRIT AND NOT ANY OF YOU. THANKS.

alexleo: The bold still remains only in your personal views as far as am concerned.
You people have not shown us where the apostles or Jesus condemned tithe. Shall we say they didnt remember that there was anything called tithe and for that reason they couldnt comment about it whether its good or bad? NO. It was mentioned in the new testament. So since it was mentioned, it means they knew about tithe and they didnt condemn it. Are you now more than them to condemn it outrightly?(same question you asked me i throw back to you my dear) Do i know more than Paul, Peter, James and Jude you asked me? My answer- Sorry, i dont even know at all thats why i must stick to the Holy Spirit who knows it all. Who also inspired these apostles to write, and since the apostles are not here to clarify this issue then i have to go to the originator of these words- THE HOLY SPIRIT AND NOT ANY OF YOU. THANKS.

Bidam: What about the widow of zarepath and the widows mite don't you realize it is a burden to them? GIVINGS ARE MOST TIMES COSTLY TO BELIEVERS WHO ARE CONSISTENT IN THEIR WALK WITH JESUS...I KNOW RESILIENT CHRISTIANS WHO GAVE TILl THEY GO BROKE..THEY NEVER BACKSLIDDED IN THEIR GIVINGS AND I BELIEVE GOD SEES AND HONOURS THEIR GIVINGS...EXAMPLES ABOUND IN SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE PHILIPPIANS AND MACEDONIANS WHO PARTNERED WITH PAUL TILL THEY GO BROKE...Spare us your hypocritical sermons..you can fool the rest not me.

"If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be that person?" - 1 John 3:17

to meet the needs of the poor , so that we may fulfill the biblical injunction below :

"that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales" - Acts 4:34