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@moredendisc
what did the donkey teach the man?
Is Balaam, practicing Christian tradition?

@Tgirl4real,
You are there.

@JeSoul.
You are not there.

A man should love his wife. Christ related well with women, all of them. But no woman taught him neither did any woman exercise authority over him.

plappville: Jesus is a good example, apart from the fact he had no female disciples, scriptures shows He was free/open to both male and female. Even Paul was severally helped by female believers . When Jesus resurrected, it was the women that saw him first. This is a sigh for women role in the body of Christ. Although the bible did not say much about Mary, we know that she might have played some roles after Christ death.

Paul cannot mean a woman should seal her mouth in the Church. This is wrong interpretation. But at thesame time. I do not think its an easy task for a woman to head a Church.

that a woman saw Christ first did not make her head of the man. So i disagree with your theory.

1 Timothy 2:11-12
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

^^Christian tradition also disagree.

Goshen360: Silence in this context means "hold your or one's peace". It doesn't connote one to shut up. Letters to the Corinthians church was written as a scroll not, in chapters as we have it now. If silence means keep quite as we have interpreted it to mean, then same Apostle will not later write "Every woman that prays or prophecy..." because both praying and prophesying involves one to talk/speak. Abi na mute activated style praying and prophecy dey happen ni?

After telling to hold their peace according to you, he added these things because he knew there are female prophets.

1 Corinthians 14:37-39
37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by theSpirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.
39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

Don't you see that he knows what he is saying. The men in the church should be the only ones to teach.

Where is ubenedictus? This is a typical example of Christian tradition. If you are practicing church fathers tradition, you are on your own.

So OP, let you mum see this.

Goshen360: Why you wan carry me and my dear brother head nack each other naw?

No mind am.

oiseworld:
I don laugh tire....

You will not understand.

What i said would have been what it is. But i became boastful in my heart at the dying minute, that is why they equalized.

That Bidam didn't even wait for me to edit my post before he quoted it. because i know people will not understand me.

^^Oui Goshon, moi too, je ve waité for tua to explique.

Silence means to keep quite.

Ubenedictus: ho[e all is well?

Ya. Just happy to see you again. And also missing italo.

spywareczar: tanx man, which 1, D̶̲̥̅̊ dooms day or 3D?

Bro you're welcomed. The two of them are just beautiful. It doesn't mean that i like doomsday things but the creativity.

Both of them.

How can i do these things?

@spywareczar

the pix is good.

i.chuka:
Lol.
Why is Phlippns2:6-8 so difficult for you guys to grasped?
Paul said in verse6 that He is qual with God(meaning He's the very God in Heaven)
verse7.He reduced//emptied Himself to the level of a servant of human likeness(reason is that He will be able to serve as a servant and die like a man).
Verse8.He later appeared as a man,but because He came as a servant and not a king(a good servant had to be humble and obedient)so He was obedient even to the death on the Cross.
Even Hebrew5:8,says He learnt obedience.it was never in His nature to obey(fact is God does not know how to obey).obedience was something actually learnt and establish by Him on the Cross in the universe.that's the sole reason His name is above every other name in Heaven and here on earth

but the fullness of Godhead dwelt in him bodily. So how come he emptied everything in heaven?

i.chuka:
Who told you His throne was empty.He left His Divinity/His Godly nature in Heaven and came down and took the form of a man,a servant to be precise....Phlippns2:6-8..He even send His Spirit back to Heaven before His death...Luke23:47.
His Divinity is that which makes Him God.

I don't understand you guys. Are you saying that now in heaven there is one person who is God and he is Jesus Christ or 2 persons who is the same person?

i.chuka:
Yes,He is...Pslm139:7-12,Jere23:23-24.
Infact He's already at the End from the begining..Ish46:10.

how does these quotes show that God is sitting beside himself?

@Enigma
Come and see the good job you are commending.

Goshen360: This Gospel of DISCRIMINATION against women in the body of Christ MUST come to an END! You guys need to understand what Apostle Paul was saying before coming out here to talk. Thank you!

So Paul was discriminating against women when he said what he said?

Bidam: you are a false prophet! U see your life..don't joke with acidtalk.

Didn't you see what happened. There are so many forces at work. It is not yet over until it is over. I will turn acidtalk into basictalk.

Nigeria will qualify.

That prediction on super eagles is a mistake. They are going to start with a win.

Prophet Boomark.

ijawkid: You act like this verse you quoted isn't one of the frauds of trinitarians......eh??.....BIDAM stop spewing rubbish here and spreading heresy...........this verse quoted from never had the word ""GOD"" attached to it before the 3rd/4th century............not until the pagan trinity was formulated was that verse tampered with and here is the result.....persons like BIDAM hold on to false renderings that even fellow trinitarians have discarded and regarded as false............

How this makes sense to you baffles me...

It makes no sense to say God
was justified in the spirit, God was seen by
angels, God was preached among the
Gentiles, God was believed on in the world,
and God was received into glory." One
would have to create a theological
spin to have this make any good sense.........

It was Christ that came in flesh and not GOD himself..........I can't believe that you still don't know that Yahweh and his son(Jesus) are 2 different persons.................and that one person sent the other and not one person incarnating in another form.......

Take your herectic face outta this place.............

I wanted to ask him if God himself who was made manifest in flesh is still the same person who is sitting at the right hand of God himself.

Bidam: THAT IS WHY I SAID TRUTH MIXED WITH ERROR..E BI LIKE SAY YOU FORGET WETIN I TALK ABI? AND IF GOD HIMSELF IN THE PERSON OF JESUS CAME TO DIE FOR US...IS DAT TOO MUCH FOR YOU GUYS TO COMPREHEND?NA WA OOO..REALLY GODLINESS NA SERIOUS MYSTERY..."And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (1 Tim. 3:16).

Jesus Christ is according to the Bible, God incarnate in man. The word "incarnate" means: made in the flesh, endowed with a human body; having a human body. The Bible clearly proclaims that Jesus Christ is God.
no bi me talk am na bible..if una like, make una vex

I can see you love my teaching. . From Godhead to servant and now to Christ is God.

But you have to make use of that link i gave you to know about this one. Before you do that, check the meaning of the term "God" or "god" to see if it is the name of a particular person or a title.

BARRISTERS: @plappvile
@Boomark

do you notice this variance in their trinitarian concept? see this (bolded) below;

Bidam;to Barristers

when the foundation of 'a belief is not in agreement' what haappens?

"The angel of the Lord, aka the angel of his presence the covenant maker."

Bidam was right na. their contradictions plenty my brother.

The angel Michael thread was very revealing. Its high time he started seeing us as scholars.

Bidam: wordly babylonian concept of a servant.that is truth mixed with error..in christainity..the mark of a true leadership is service..read john 13 :8..even God serves us with Air and rain..does dat makes him inferior? Jesus as a diety served his disciples does dat makes him inferior..look at it in dat light..

Am not an arts student. Should i be teaching you english? A master provides food and shelter for his slave, while the slave does everything the master commands. Who among this two will you call a servant?

Did the disciples call Jesus their servant? Did you see any of those he healed call him servant? They call him their Lord and master.

Rev 1:1
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show His servants- things that must shortly take place. And he sent and signified it by his angel to his servant john. See Heb 1:1-2 also.

Do you see servant and master relationship here between Jesus and God? God does not go on an errand for anybody. He is a servant to no one.

Since you said its a worldly Babylonian concept, are you ready to answer my questions about servant? because we will still get to the point where you can't answer me again.

Bidam: ok..it is my turn to learn..what do you understand by the word servant in reference to Jesus Christ? gimme scriptures to explain the concept.

Have you seen it. Just before you say someone's teaching is from the pit of hell, you check yourself very well. I saw joagbaje viewing, i thought he might help.

ser·vant ( sûr ' vənt )
n.
1. One who is privately employedto perform domestic services.
2. One who is publicly employed to perform services, as for a government.
3. One who expresses submission, recognizance, or debt to another: your obedientservant.

Use your dictionary to also look up for "serve," that is what a servant does. You will get a comprehensive bible quotes on it from the link. 1st n 2nd page.

https://www.nairaland.com/1127181/jesus-christ-servant-of-God-trinity-debunked-again

briefly
In zechariah 3:8, you will see where it says, "...i am bringing forth my servant the Branch." this shows that he is already a servant before he was brought forth.

Bidam: dats talking about Christ supremacy..ok.lemme use nature to explain scripture..u re a copy of ur father are u not? Does dat means u re a servant to ur father? Does dat means you are in anyway lesser than you father in terms of the authority, inheritance, attributes, DNA,blood group, etc..He carries? You cannot be greater nor lesser than your father..you can only be like him.

You didn't give me any reference from the scripture to teach me/us about the Godhead which dwelt "IN" Christ.

Being a copy of the father is not enough. Use something the son does in his fathers house to explain it. And i want to ask, does it mean you are not serving your father when he sends you on an errand? Do you take decisions on things concerning you fathers house without consulting him? Are you equal to your father?

You ignored Col 1:19. I said it seems it is the Father that gave Jesus that fullness because it pleases Him to do so. What do you think.

To we all who it may concern. To those of us propagating false traditions, let us ask God to show us light and truth in His word, that we may not go about doing things He detest just to please Mary.

Bidam: Col 2:9...notice the word fullness..no man, past, present and future has or has attained the fullness of God or the FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS IN THEM IN BODILY FORM...if you can't accept the Diety of Christ then you are not even a christian to start with..no matter how you want to twist that scripture to buttress your claim that Jesus is a servant is from the pit of hell which means you are preaching another gospel..boomark.

Bro i asked you to teach me about Godhead. If i have questions i will asked. Unless you don't know anything to say about Godhead.

Ya, i noticed the word "fullness." I also saw in
Col 1:19,
for it pleased the Father that in him all fullness should dwell.

It seems it is the Father that gave Christ that fullness or is He not? I want you to teach me.

Ubenedictus: u are trying to display ignorance.

You should have pointed out the ignorance in the truth i wrote.

Joagbaje: @logic boy

Just sering your thread . You're wrong , joagbaje will rather preach Jesus and salvation to you. Then give you cop money and help you plan your life.

Please can anyone help me disagree with this tithe man. He is even asking me for 10% of the N5 biscuit i want to give my friend.

ijawkid: @logicboy.....i might just be ready to share my nysc allowee with you........ ......anything you see you go take

why would you do that? I will only give him N5 cabin biscuit. If he is not taking make he leave na. Besides, a beggar has no choice.

Bidam: i laff in tongues..just like a farasee..too bad we are on the internet..are u so overzealous in defending yahweh? I would be glad to see u face to face so u could stone me like they stone righteous stephen..ayam willing to suffer persecution for Christ.

This is still not the explanation to the meaning of GODHEAD. Please stop laffing and help me explain it abeg. You are digressing.

Bidam: lol..abeg stay no run..you need to give your life to CHRIST..LOOK AT WHAT JESUS TELL ME TO TELL YOU IJAWKID THIS MORNING: "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHOEVER HEARS MY WORD AND BELIEVES HIM WHO SENT ME HAS ETERNAL LIFE AND WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED.... I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, A TIME IS COMING AND HAS NOW COME WHEN THE DEAD HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD AND THOSE WHO HEAR WILL LIVE...@ijawkid do u believe in Jesus as the Son of God?(not a servant) re u ready to live? Cos witout the name Jesus, forget assesing Jehovah..that was why i.chuka said without Jesus your jehovah is 'nothing' and he is right u know.. Don't read your bible like a newspaper.

I can see you are possessed by a foul spirit. The Holyspirit can not say, without Christ our Highpriest, the Father is nothing. You can as well say without the priests and prophets of the Old testament, God is nothing. You are here to mock God. If not, can you show us where it said, without Christ God is nothing. We have showed where it is written that Christ is a subject and servant of God.

Do you know who sent Jesus? Do you actually believe the words of Jesus? Look at it here and do it if you want to be a true worshiper.

John 4:23-24
23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Fatherin the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”


It seem my questions to you can't be answered by the foul spirit? I know how to make such spirits to count the ceiling.

Bidam: abegi...go sleep..u no get talk..stop being angry like farasee and sad to see pple..na flesh dey talk inside u jare..go back and study d scriptures.

the spirit(not the Holyspirit) in you can't even us. The spirit that can twist "the head of Christ is God" to mean Christ is the express image of God.

Shameful!!!

Bidam: don't bastardise Jesus Christ( the Word of God, the Power of God, the IMAGE of God the Wisdom of God). John1:1,2cor4:4, Jesus Christ knew no sin.(i.chuka, bidam,boomark,ijawkid,etc knew and committed sin). He died and ressurrected and He now sits on the Throne..infact Apostle Paul understood clearly, and that was why he declared it boldly that JESUS CHRIST IS GOD...so boomark if you like make u vex like d farasee and sad to see of Jesus generation say i talk am..look again @ col 2:9 "for in HiM(Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily." then in titus 2:13. "looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the Great God and our savior Jesus Christ".....@boomark if u like carry all d dictionary of hebrew,greek,aramaic,arabic or go hell go look for another interpretation..It CANNOT AND WILL NEVER CHANGE THE TRUTH ABOUT SCRIPTURES..Jesus Christ has been there both in the OT and NT..the very name "Emmanuel" should have told you all that Jesus Christ is God. Mathew 1:23 says, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us".

All these things are not necessary. Please use the scripture and explain what you mean by GODHEAD. Let me learn from you, i see you know it all. I hope you will teach me.

Where is real berni?

Bidam: jehovah witness indoctrination..and why should he? Simple analogy :focus on God the Father, God the Son..whether d devil like am or he no like am we will keep sayin this scriptural truth till thy kingdom come

As if you don't know i.chuka thinks the Father is the same person as the Son. Don't you have any scriptural truth to tell him?