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Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 5:06am On Jan 19, 2013
Bidam: you should be intrested in d milk, since you ave difficulty grasping scriptural truths...God is not under any authorithy..no one can subject God..and the woman has no one under her in terms of divine authority..ok? Stop reading a diffrent meaning to wat i said..stop quoting long epistles and irrelevant explanations to buttress your points.
wait o! Are these distractions answers to my questions. Look at the question here again. Abeg help me explain how man is the express image of Christ and how God, Christ and man are equal to one Godhead or head.

Please can you explain how God being the head of Christ means that Christ is the express image of God. Also explain: the head of man is Christ and the head of woman is man.
And also pls, 1Cor 11:4.
Every man praying or prophesying,having his head covered, dishonours his HEAD.
Christianity EtcRe: If Logicboy Was Broke!!! by Boomark(m): 9:12pm On Jan 18, 2013
Mee234: smarthuhhuh. I think all that boy got is time and if he gets broke, he will believe in God again.
May be its time to give him cabin biscuit again.
Christianity EtcRe: If Logicboy Was Broke!!! by Boomark(m): 8:59pm On Jan 18, 2013
Anony:
So sorry, but, I need to understand your problem. How do you define broke? What does hungry truly mean? Can you define broke and relate it to being kicked out?
A good definition of hungry could mean starving for Jesus who is the bread of life
gringrin
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 8:25pm On Jan 18, 2013
ijawkid: We've not heard you say CHRIST is lesser than GOD....have you??......say it and let us move on........that's the truth we want you to spread rather than dwell on "" CHRIST is equal with his GOD and FATHER"" which is a fraud...........don't act like you don't know what truth we want you to uphold....
Me too i really want to hear that, especially from i.chuka who does not know the difference between the Father and the Son.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 8:19pm On Jan 18, 2013
Bidam: oga pls..reread my post again..that is wat i have been shouting tru out dis thread..i never said Jesus is greater than God na..even Jesus said a servant can only be like His master and not greater..hope u get the gist! U can't expect my views and ur views to be in the same literal translation na..abi? There are multiplicity of gifts but it is the SAME SPIRIT..the way i look @ a scripture should be different from yours..dats the multidimensional wisdom of God..but you guys dnt seem to gerrit..all you are intrested is in doctrinal debate..and dat to me is not MATURITY.
No matter the dimension of the wisdom of God, be it 2D, 3D etc, they don't contradict each other.

Romans 1:19-20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them;for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:


God(the Father) is still invisible. The only begotten God made him know. Things He made also declare and understand Him. His intelligent design brought them forth. You see his eternal power and Godhead(divine nature) in them all.

When you look at i.chuka, you will see Godhead but not its fullness. Depending on the godliness he exhibit.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 7:37pm On Jan 18, 2013
Bidam: you have a one sided view of scripture..try looking @ the whole picture...am not runnin away bro...i don't have the luxury of being on the internet 24/7.. A man got to work in order to eat na.. I dropped u a meat u dey complain..shey na milk u wan drink abi? Some verses of scriptures can have a dual meaning or more..hence serving the purpose and context from which it was drawn..based on my understanding of the [b]"head of Christ is God" it means Christ is the express image of God..[/b]that was why i quoted col 2:9..but e bi like say u get your own interpretation abi? Since u refuse to compare scripture with scripture..i don't think u will get a clear view of wat we are talkin about here.
Am not interested in your milk.

Please can you explain how God being the head of Christ means that Christ is the express image of God. Also explain: the head of man is Christ and the head of woman is man.

And also pls, 1Cor 11:4.
Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonours his HEAD.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ The Servant Of God: Trinity Debunked Again by Boomark(op):
Godhead

trinitarians need to ask themselves:
what is all fullness?
What is Godhead?

Col 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullnessof the Godhead bodily.


Note carefully that Godhead is dwelling in Christ. He is not part or in Godhead but it dwells in him. Godhead means God's nature, divine qualities. Research it.

Colossians 1:19-20
New International Version (NIV)
19 [b]For God was pleased to have all
his fullness dwell in him, 20 and
through him to reconcile to himself
all things
, whether things on earth
or things in heaven, by making
peace through his blood, shed on
the cross.[/b]

For it pleases the Father to have the fullness of His nature(Godhead) in Christ. So that through Christ Godwill reconcile everything back to Himself and no other person.

Romans 1:19-20
King James Version (KJV)
19 Because that which may be
known of God is manifest in them;
for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him
from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by
the things that are made, even his
eternal power and Godhead;
so
that they are without excuse:

2 Peter 1:3-4
(King James Version)
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature(Godhead), having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

This one will help you understand that eternal power and Godhead is something that belongs to the Father and not that He is in it.

Ephesians 1:22-23
New International Version (NIV)
22 And God placed all things under
his feet and appointed him to be
head over everything for the
church, 23 which is his body, the
fullness of him(God) who fills everything
in every way.


It is God that gave Christ the authority he has by putting all things under his feet. But you are mistaken by making him equal to God after seeing the authority he possess. It is God that fills everything He pleases with His fullness.

Don't be disappointed trinitarians, Godhead is not made up 3 persons but God's nature or qualities.

Any Objection?

No Sir! ....Good.
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 1:42pm On Jan 18, 2013
Godhead

You need to ask yourself:
what is all fullness?
What is Godhead?

Col 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullnessof the Godhead bodily.


Note carefully that Godhead is dwelling in Christ. He is not part or in Godhead but it dwells in him. Godhead means God's nature, divine qualities. Research it.

Colossians 1:19-20
New International Version (NIV)
19 For God was pleased to have all
his fullness dwell in him, 20 and
through him to reconcile to himself
all things, whether things on earth
or things in heaven, by making
peace through his blood, shed on
the cross.


For it pleases the Father to have the fullness of His nature(Godhead) in Christ. So that through Christ Godwill reconcile everything back to Himself and no other person.

Romans 1:19-20
King James Version (KJV)
19 Because that which may be
known of God is manifest in them;
for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him
from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by
the things that are made, even his
eternal power and Godhead;
so
that they are without excuse:

This one will help you understand that eternal power and Godhead is something that belongs to the Father and not that He is in it.

Ephesians 1:22-23
New International Version (NIV)
22 And God placed all things under
his feet and appointed him to be
head over everything for the
church, 23 which is his body, the
fullness of him who fills everything
in every way.

It is God that gave Christ the authority he has by putting all things under his feet. But you are mistaken by making him equal to God after seeing the authority he's possess. It is God that fills everything He pleases with His fullness.

Any Objection?
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 1:26pm On Jan 18, 2013
^^So where i quoted was talking about the unity of Godhead shey? Did you see anything "unity" above. So man is also united as co-equal head with Christ? Or you just gave that reply to run away from the points made?

Can you explain, the head of man is Christ and the head of Christ is God? Are they all united as Godhead?

Concerning "Godhead," i will show you what it means. I hope you checked my profile for the thread?
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 10:21am On Jan 18, 2013
1 Corinthians 11:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Do you disagree with the bolded?
Christianity EtcRe: Christ Is Head by Boomark(m): 10:10am On Jan 18, 2013
ijawkid: @Real-beni......good job........

@I.CHUKA.....smh!!!!......I can't believe you said this "" without Christ,your so called Almighty
God has no power and can do nothing
without going through Christ
"".......

That statement is an insult to Yahweh who is the Father and GOD of Jesus.....your statement is an insult to the[b]one[/b] who gave Jesus life and every single thing Jesus has.........

do you see what the trinity is doing to you and what it has done to you.??....................smh!!!!!..........
That is the most awful Statement a Christian can make about his God who is all powerful. He will also say that God can't do anything without the angels who are doing the servant works for Him.

@Bidam who is filled.... And i.chuka who is filled with what i don't know,

Jesus and the angels are the servants of the Almighty God. They are doing the will of the Father and they must obey Him because He is God over all of them. He gave them power and made what they are. Jesus, the angels and all of us are His subjects. I hope you know who a subject is?

They do as He commands them while He watch, supervise and receive all the glory from works He commanded them to do. He is not a servant and cannot do a servants work. God is the head of all head.

Bidam, click on my profile and learn from one of my threads "Jesus is the servant of God...." i.chuka was no where near that thread because it refuted everything he believed in.

God is the head of Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 7:01am On Jan 18, 2013
Ubenedictus: Ofcux i dont need to look to know wu wrote this.
grin

You and your brother italo are owing me answers to a question i asked on the thread about bowing to images. How is he?
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 9:15pm On Jan 16, 2013
Ubenedictus: d apostles taught odas, they werent talking in d air, tradition is transmitted from one century to another, that is y paul said to hold even dat he taught by word of mouth.
An avenue to practice idolatry and all sorts of unchristian practices. That is the tradition of men which the apostles never mentioned in all their teaching.

Apostles were also buying private jets. This is a tradition ubenedictus did not know of. Let your church fathers also include that one as a tradition. I no talk o....its just a suggestion.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 7:39pm On Jan 16, 2013
truthislight: lol.

Is that ^^ the traditions?
Lol. Am disappointed guy.
Am also disappointed by one of the traditions.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 11:11am On Jan 16, 2013
Bidam: the Truth is death could not hold Him captive, even in the grave Jesus is Lord..He conquered death in Hell..stop dis blasphemy that Jesus is a man and not God.
He conquered death, that is why he did not remain dead till now. Do you know satan no even get fear to ask him to bow before him(satan)? But by his resurrection and being glorified by God his God and Father, at the mention of just his name, satan will always tremble.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 10:51am On Jan 16, 2013
Bidam: lol..so what if i was a muslim? Does it bother you that i have seen the light? Are u happy or sad? By your statements i guess you are very annoyed like satan if not why should you say i should go back? I guess just like your father the devil who is in the business of knowing and checking someone's past..you have made a research of my post on nairaland before coming to reply me..keep up d pretense of being a believer..the sheeps will soon be separated from the goats..and mark my words its gonna be soon..
It is good you met us at this point of your conversion, so you don't drift into atheism with a sealed heart due to confusion and contradictory teachings when you start meeting them.

You are very much welcomed.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 10:13am On Jan 16, 2013
ijawkid: If you didn't know there were puctuations issue with this verse then you have a long way to go...........Jesus and that thief did not go to paradise that day.........the kjv translators who are ofcus pro immortality of the soul like you misplaced punctuations to support there false stance.....but as we can see from the scriptures Jesus and that thief went to no paradise ,rather they went to the grave........except you wanna define ""grave"" as paradise.............

Meanwhile the reason why I insinuated you thinking that the altar is paradise is because
I see no relevance of you quoting that scripture in this discussion........I gave a precept upon precept explanation of what those souls on the altar connote.........
______________________________


Lol.....you are fallacious my bro....oh I forgot you were a muslim before....am I right??.....only muslims argue that Jesus did not die,and its no surprise you are holding on to such false belief just to support the phony point that "" the dead are conscious""....smh!!!!!......you had to go quote matthew 12:40 as a prop for ""Jesus was alive while in his tomb or for the 3days he was in the grave....smh!!!!!!.........you better go back to being a muslim...........
Was Jonah active while in the belly of the fish??was Jonah able to preach during his 3days stay in the belly of the fish??........that matthew you quoted even supports the scriptural stance that the dead are totally conscious of nothing at all.....that scripture butresses the fact that the dead are inactive.....and Jesus was indeed inactive while he stayed 3days in the tomb..so going to preach to the spirits in prison from his tomb would even contradict the parallels between his(Jesus) death and stay in sheol for 3days with Jonahs stay in the belly of the fish.......more to this is that Jesus died and was buried,which makes Jesus' case of unconsciousness and inactiveness double that of Jonah's.........Jonah was not killed nor did Jonah die(but preserved alive in the fish's belly),but Jesus was stabbed and killed and he died and was buried.......and so Jesus remained unconscious for 3days.......take your lies back to islam and to greek philosophers
That is why i love you.

I guess bidam can now see his mistakes better.

He did not know it was a comparison between Jonah's state in the fish belly and Jesus' state in the heart of the earth. No preaching what so ever until out of the fish belly and out of the heart of the earth respectively. Our God did not allow his flesh to see corruption. He was well preserved for 3 days and nights.

Bidam did not also ask where the paradise is. Is it in hell/hates/heart of the earth or in heaven? Did Jesus ascend to his Father in heaven with the thief before he was resurrected?

That is it for those that claim to receive from the spirit. Alexleo disappeared when i asked him to teach us according to the spirit that gave him conviction. Image123 stopped replying my post after the 1st encounter. cheesy frosbel asked upto 30 questions, to just pick one and teach us according to how you are led is a problem.
Christianity EtcRe: Criticisms Of Jehovah's Witness Bible Translation by Boomark(m): 2:56pm On Jan 15, 2013
prof e.o.o:
my fwend u're blind. Jw dnt mk use of cross,check d background of dat pix. If u wnt 2kw more abt us;go to www.jw.org. Dnt bring up nonsense jst 2 curry 4 attention.
was surprised that i had to ask since when una begin sample cross. Hisblud never wants to learn. Yooguyz too.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 9:49pm On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: again this is ur opinion, the apostles didnt base their doctrine on d scripture available to them only (old tes), but on d words of christ and d revelation of d spirit + d old t, that y d word of God is d source of doctrine and dat word is found in scripture and tradition. So your idea dat scripture alone is d sole source of doctrine is unbiblical.
Don't you see why i said everything is in the scriptures/bible. Is there anyone of the emboldened points you cannot find in the bible? That is why bible should be your all and all with regard to Christian doctrine/tradition.

What do you understand by holding unto the tradition? Tradition: a belief or way of life of people. What tradition are Christians or followers of Christ supposed to hold unto? Is it the ones borrowed from heathen or the one Christ laid down for us. All truth were revealed to the apostles by the Holyspirit. If you borrow tradition outside the scripture as regards to serving God, you are on your own.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Michael The Archangel Really Jesus? (revelation 12:7) by Boomark(m): 7:48am On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: now some sense

and is this d award winner for d most charitable comment abt another? I dont tink so!
I love charitable deeds.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 7:20am On Jan 14, 2013
DanielNoble: are u a demon? Y would u ask some1 to stop reading his Bible?
That is what they encourage.

SMH!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 7:12am On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: d question i alway ask, where is it written dat all doctrine must be in d bible?
the doctrine in the bible is more than enough for Christians to follow. That is the doctrine of the church Christ raised.

Where did you get other doctrine you follow?
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 7:00am On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: here is d difference, paul could accuse peter of a seemingly wrong practice not of a wrong doctrine. The church christ established had conformity in doctrine dat is y d council of jerusalem was convocked, to proclaim "thus is what it is". Ur idea of d church of christ with contradictory doctrine is an illusion!
Enigma was right. The true doctrine of the church of Christ is Solely base on the scripture. The man made doctrines of the catholic, winners, assemblies, etc, are what contradicts one another.

A catholic or a deeper life member will not tell you that their church doctrines contradicts itself.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Christians Existed Before Roman Catholic by Boomark(m): 6:30am On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: now this is uncharitable! I dont twist pipo comments! And hey wu made u judge! U were d one wu said predestination isnt biblical right?
The type of predestination i meant is the type a catholic ones told me. He said, "if any one commits suicide, God has destined him to die that day and by that means." Anytin that looks like this is certainly not in the bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Apostolic Faith Church: Na Wa For This Kind Church by Boomark(m): 6:13am On Jan 14, 2013
Infallibility which the pope claims is man made. Of course we are not talking about politics. The Holyspirit will not lead a man to teach people to bow to images made by man and at the same time teach others to vehemently reject it.

This is just one example. Who do we follow, of all those that claim to be led by the Holyspirit? Test every spirit. The teachings of the Holyspirit is still in line with what is written in the scriptures.

Infallibility of the pope is an error. You do err. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Boomark(m): 5:40am On Jan 14, 2013
Boomark: Exodus 20:4-5
4 “You shall not make for yourself an
image in the form of anything in
heaven above or on the earth
beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them
or worship them; for I, the LORD
your God, am a jealous God,
punishing the children for the sin of
the parents to the third and fourth
generation of those who hate me,

Acts 17:29-30
English Standard Version
(©2001)
Being then God’s
offspring, we ought not to
think that the divine
being is like gold or silver
or stone, an image formed
by the art and
imagination of man.


catholics make supposed images of Christ and Mary. They kneel, bow and kiss it while making their prayers. These images are of things that are likely to be in heaven, earth or underneath. This is a clear disobedient to God according to exodus because He said "do not make them or bow to them".

These images are made with stone, bronze etc and are made according to how men imagine the divine ones should look like. That is why the have varying images of the same person. A crystal clear disobedient to God.

With these i can comfortably say that catholics worship idol.

So tell me where it is written "do not worship your parents" and also teach us what it means to worship ones parents. I hope there will be no childish acts. Teach.
^^ grin

Welcome back italo and ubenedictus.
Christianity EtcRe: *~ Goshen360 Voted Religion Section Poster Of 2012*~ Congratulations! by Boomark(m): 5:29am On Jan 14, 2013
Ubenedictus: Congrats man and happy new year all!
Hmm
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 3:50pm On Jan 11, 2013
Image123: can any man stop Jesus, the chief teacher of hell?
grin

why not disappear like alexleo instead of giving others hope on what you don't know. Ask questions and learn. Am also learning from this thread. We shouldn't be proud in ignorance.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 9:14am On Jan 07, 2013
Beretta92: was only kidding.i like ur broad-minded kinda xtianity.u think 4 yrself n do not allow people 2 put ideas in ur head.maybe if i met a christian like u, i wudnt hv become agnostic...just maybe.
@Neddivine

The above quote is the confession of an agnostic. Same applies to most atheists. They were confused by what men teach which contradicts few things they saw in the scripture.

What the truth does is to set people free. It is almost impossible for one who believe in One true God(the Father. "Not trinity o"wink to become one of these sect. Because there is no confusion or contradictions in that ones belief. You don't get to read one thing that makes your mind skip because it contradict one of the things you believe.

Your belief is obviously laden with emotions and not based on the truth in the scripture. It pays to know the truth. Those that will follow Christ will always follow him in truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 1:58pm On Jan 06, 2013
Image123: woahhh this is an all time low. Asides the hypocrisies and established ignorance, I'm surprised to see christains telling me that Jesus is yet to conquer but will in the future. The general implications that He failed in His coming to earth is just endtimic.
There is no apology for refuting you understanding of Heb 2:14 and 1Jn 3:8. That is what ones ignorance and cherry-picking can lead to. If you are telling us what Christians should think, let it according to the scripture and in context to the discourse. Not what you think they should think.

To conquer an enemy is different from destroying an enemy. Satan will be destroyed, the last enemy will be destroyed at the end of time. So don't think you can confuse us. The keyword is "destroy."
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 9:42am On Jan 06, 2013
image123: Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the
children are partakers of flesh
and blood, he also himself
likewise took part of the same;
that through death he might
destroy him that had the power
of death, that is, the devil ;

Christ through death destroyed
the devil. He bruised his head etc.
Is the devil still in existence
today? CHORUS ANSWER please.
(CEV) We are people of flesh and
blood. That is why Jesus became
one of us. He died to destroy the
devil, who had power over death.
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is
of the devil; for the devil sinneth
from the beginning. For this
purpose the Son of God was
manifested, that he might
destroy the works of the devil.

Did Jesus destroy the works of
the devil? Yes. Are the works of
the devil still existing? Your
answer is as correct as mine. So
destroying death doesn't mean
that it will no longer exist. it
simply means death will be
defeated/ruined/caged. You also
need to look at Rev 21v4 in the
context of the new Heaven and
new earth. In the present context
of Heaven, God's throne, thee is
no death there. But on our
present earth there is death.
It says, "...that through his death he "might" destroy the devil." It did not say that he has destroyed the devil. And look, that Hebrew was written after his death and resurrection. A time will come for it, at the last day.

God cannot level a mountain and the mountain still stands. God cannot destroy sodom, gomorah, edom etc and they still exist. God cannot destroy satan and he(satan) walks about as if nothing spoil. You are wrong.

1 John 3:4-8 (NIV)
One verse per line
4 Everyone who sins breaks the
law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5
But you know that he appeared so
that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who
lives in him keeps on sinning. No
one who continues to sin has
either seen him or known him. 7
Dear children, do not let anyone
lead you astray. He who does what
is right is righteous, just as he is
righteous. 8 He who does what is
sinful is of the devil, because the
devil has been sinning from the
beginning. The reason the Son of
God appeared was to destroy the
devil's work.


It did not say that satan was destroyed but his work. Did you notice the comparison between "those that keep on sinning" and "those that keep doing what is right."

the works of satan thrives in the lives of those that keep on sinning. The devil has been sinning and his works(sin) remains in sinners. The works satan is dead in the lives of the righteous. That is the grace the righteous have through Christ.

So look for something else to support you point.
Christianity EtcRe: Thirty Questions For Teachers Of Eternal Torment by Boomark(m): 2:18pm On Jan 05, 2013
Image123: i don't have time for that, ask my chief teacher abi you dey fear?
gringrin

why not ask ur pastor, abi him too dey fear?

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