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@truthislight

Its better to side step his post as he urged. You know, atimes wayo is always shrouded in big englishes.

spywareczar: tanx man, ϊƒ Ɣøµ re good Þhº†ºŠh°Þ™ I can xplain Ђδω I did it, so re Ɣøµ good in it?

No. I would like to learn it.

Plappy!!

Wonders shall never end in pharisee.

^^And my beautiful answer is: catholics are venerating idol. They do things similar to this.

Boomark: Exodus 20:4-5
4 “You shall not make for yourself an
image in the form of anything in
heaven above or on the earth
beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them
or worship them; for I, the LORD
your God, am a jealous God,
punishing the children for the sin of
the parents to the third and fourth
generation of those who hate me,

Acts 17:29-30
English Standard Version
(©2001)
Being then God’s
offspring, we ought not to
think that the divine
being is like gold or silver
or stone, an image formed
by the art and
imagination of man.

catholics make supposed images of Christ and Mary. They kneel, bow and kiss it while making their prayers. These images are of things that are likely to be in heaven, earth or underneath. This is a clear disobedient to God according to exodus because He said "do not make them or bow to them".

These images are made with stone, bronze etc and are made according to how men imagine the divine ones should look like. That is why the have varying images of the same person. A crystal clear disobedient to God.

tpia@:
like what happened in eden, i guess.

she could have first consulted with adam before eating the fruit.

Exateli!!

That is why we are facing these troubles today. Yet some of them that feels they are Sunday school teachers/pastors don't want to obey the Lord's command.

Why i want to write this is because it was just precise and concerning #9 which i just saw today.

I was down not that happy today, but i tried to ignore everything that is making me unhappy and was praising God. I went and hunt for cashew because am in one village like that not my village o.

When i returned from hunting, i laid on my bed and was thinking of how badly i needed light. To see replies to my posts and read some other things because it will make me somewhat happy and busy.

Then i heard a voice say to me, "go and bath. Immediately after bathing you will see light." i didn't think of doubting or not to doubt.

It happened that immediately i finished taking my bath, i looked into our kitchen and saw light, it was at that same time, that a boy in our neighbourhood shouted "up Nepa."

All things worketh for the good of those that serve Him.

Bidam: actually you are not very far from the truth..the revelation i got from 1 tim 3:6. None of you guys has been able to explain it..you are just giving me flimsy excuses and dancing around with diluted translations..SMH!!

what we want you to understand is that there is one God over all who is the Father. How about other Gods?

Isa 9:6 says, that Christ will be called a mighty God.
Zechariah 12:8 says, the house of David shall be like God, just as the angel of God before them.

At least Rev 3:12 showed you that Jesus have someone who he called his God, not himself. That God, is the God of all gods. Him alone we worship. He is the Father. Jesus is called God but he is not the Father(God) who Jesus said we should worship.

1 Timothy 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Being like God is not just by Mouth, it has to do with having God's qualities(Godhead) and it is only God that can give it and he gave the fullness to Christ, Col 1:19. God coming in the flesh here refers to Jesus Christ not the Father.

1peter 4:1
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Since therefore Christ has suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin;

this mystery of godliness also applies when Jesus said "if you see me you have seen the Father," "i and my Father are one," etc. it doesn't mean he is the same person as the Father.

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I can see you are back. Welcome.

^^So Mr Barristers, this is why he is called the word of God?

The revelation of Jesus Christ which God "gave" him in Rev 1:1 also points to the fact that Christ spoke the word of God when he said, "I am the alpha and the omega...." Rev 1:8. Interesting!

Enigma: Bidam alone has shown that the cultists and Jehovah's witnesses don't know what they are talking about. I admire his/her persistence, patience and tolerance very much.

Personally, I don't have much time to waste with cultists and other alakatakitis; let them hold on to their belief in a Jesus that was created or that did not exist until he was born by Mary. It is probably only worthwhile to explain the Trinity doctrine to other Christians who are honest enough to say that they don't understand it or for some non-Christians who have an honest desire to understand it.

Actually, what i wanted you to do is to tell him that Jesus is not the same person as the Father with whatever you have.

You can explain trinity to those that don't read their bible who don't know their left and right. With the things we know and the questions we have, you can't explain trinity to us.

oiseworld: Don't misinterprets the Bible. God can use anyone as long as the person is willing and available.

Women can teach,preach and head a church. They are also vessels like their male folks. So like I said earlier, the problem with women in ministry is their total submission to the use of God. Pastoral job is not a working day job or an 8-5 job, its a 24/7 job. That is difficult for a married woman to do...She can support her husband in ministry but she is still subject to him.

women who are under the grip of a man MAY not be able to perform in full capacity, you can tell them from the beginning,they hide from certain duties and give excuses lots of times. They use their husbands and family duties to dodge difficult church work. The ones that have the zeal(married or not) will always want to stick their heads out at all times.... And u know women, you can't sideline them wen they are all out.

That's what the spirit says.

where is the proof? No proof? If you are a woman, the Lord said He doesn't want to use you as a teacher. If you go ahead and teach, you disobey Him.

I have proof of what is inspired by the Holyspirit. Here it is:

1 Corinthians 14:37-39
37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by theSpirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.

Whatever zeal you have to teach and do his work, if you disobey him, it all amounts to nothing.

This is what the spirit says.

Bidam: abeg Jehovah advocates..make una take am easy on me na..na only me against the world? haba

Enigma and some others know why they can't help you. He only comes to encourage you cos part of what you are saying is what he believes in. You are not honest in learning and answering questions.

Well as a prophet, i know what you are doing. Trying to nail every confusing parts.

enilove: Am enjoying your thread but not your hard unchanged heart .I was expecting you to say,thank my brothers but,what do we get instead? No way No way i no go agree for them even say na true dem dey talk.

Tell me the meaning of these verses:

Revelation: 2:18 These things saith the son of God........
Revelation:3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,and he shall go no more out : and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is a new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God.
Revelation 3: 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,even as I also overcame ,and am set with my father in his throne.

Who is the speaker in the above verses?
Why the phrase"the son of God" mentioned again in heaven .
What is the meaning of"my God"

Please be thruthful with yourself, because every unrighteousness is a sin.

Bidam cannot give you a truthful answer, likewise all the trinitarians. He ignored this verse from ijawkid at the 1st page. He will come here and tell you the definition of "temple" instead of telling you who Jesus was calling his God.

Bidam, who was Jesus calling his God (in heaven) according to Rev 3:12 and the bolded above?

Bidam: keep fooling your sheoples..The Creator is also LORD IN SCRIPTURES. .10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11[b] I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
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Isa 43:14-15
14[b] Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships.
15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
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Isa 44:6
6[b] Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.[/b]

Can you be truthful in your life for once? I asked you a simple question and you are quoting all these things for me just to evade the answer.

Have you ever seen where it says "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus"?

@Bidam
just watch and see.

The unseen hands behind the mischief of the referees will never prevail in the end- penalty outside the box.

You guys should not fear. Qualification is for Nigeria and Burkina Faso.

Prophet Boomark is here again!

Nigeria must qualify. But...this acidtalk dey mean o!

Chukskalidon: eyes ar given to many but only few can see.

delusion is given to many but only few reject it.

Ubenedictus: interestingly d catechism of d cath church condemns idolatry, but not veneration. I dont practice idolatry, neva have, neva will.

What are you venerating? Thin air?

@debosky

Boomark: 1 Corinthians 14:37-39
37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by theSpirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.
39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

God is not a "respecter" of any Romans law. If he is then, the apostles wount have preached about Christ. I know it is difficult to accept especially if you are involved. But....

This is the Lord's command not a Roman law.

oiseworld: let the spirit minister to you.

Eph 5:22, 1peter 3:1, clo 3:18.
Its a straight forward thing.


Eph 5:12

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

So what did the spirit say about how all these things imply that wives should teach their husbands in church?

Bidam: see as u dey lie.. that particular verse called Jesus 'Lord' with a capital L and not god..smh![color=#990000][/color]

Your problem is that you don't know the meaning of the term "God." I asked you before to look up the meaning of God.

Have you seen some thing like this before: "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ?"

ijawkid: 1...And we know the son of GOD is come....
2....And he hath given us an understanding,that we may know HIM that is true (read john 17:3)......
3...And we are in HIM that is true
4.....Even in HIS son Jesus Christ...

5....This is the true GOD...

You are a good man. This is the ABC interpretation. All the bolded, have a connection especially 2, 3 and 5.

This is just the way i like it, with a simple and short no hiding place question following it.

Bidam, i urge you to read john 17 and pay attention to Jesus' prayer to His Father.

plappville: Hahaha...this man still dey live him before life ooooo..

I noticed that too. No atom of the fruit of the Holyspirit, yet he is the chairman of those that claim to be filled. Seems he has no regard for the name of God and don't know Him as Yahweh.

SMH!!!

Bidam: mumu...oya show me the contradictions na..[b]eva wondered why your fathers like boomark andfrosbel no comment? becus them no find fault in the son of moi..[/b]you just dey here they talk thrash abeggo siddon if you dont have any positive contributions to offer in this thread..i get ya tym this evening well well...JUST LOOK AT YOUR ANTICHRIST DOCTRINES STARING RIGHT BACK AT YOU IN THEFACE..YOU THINK SAY NA ONLY YOU SABI USE COMPUTER INSULT ANYHOW ABI?THUNDER FIRE THaT YOUR ROTTEN MOUTH FOR TELLING ME KJV IS FRAUDULENT..ALL THIS OCCULTIC PPLE SEF AND THERE WAHALA...the reason why you know an occult grp like modalism is becos you are also part of an occult..

You are full of faultssss. Why i neva comment is because you weaken my moral and never answer my questions. I thought we agreed to learn.

Ijawkid na my oga o. No play with am o. Your insults are now too much.

Boomark:
I don't understand you guys. Are you saying that now in heaven there is one person who is God and he is Jesus Christ or 2 persons who is the same person?

i.chuka:
Yes,God now dwells in a bodily form in the Heavenlies.

Does this look like an answer to my question? Did you see anything "body" in my question? Or don't you have answers?

SMH!!!

Boomark:
I don't understand you guys. Are you saying that now in heaven there is one person who is God and he is Jesus Christ or 2 persons who is the same person?


Bidam:. like i said earlier i am not he originator of this thread, just trying to help out. funny u guys keep asking queshions upon queshions.Why not ask the Holy Spirit na ? He alone KNOWS ALL THINGS. OK,i will try and address the scriptures regarding the throneof God. Here are a couple questionsthat we need to consider regarding God's throne. Where is the throne? What is the throne of God?

The Throne of God
Isa 66:1
66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

the time you erroneously and strongly believed what you think is the meaning of GODHEAD, was it the Holyspirit that gave you such interpretation or haven't you asked him by that time. You should thank God not me/us. Thank Him for knowing us.

I asked you a question and you started shifting the responsibility to i.chuka as if it is not the same thing you believed in.

Concerning Isa 66:1. It is something like, you want to build a house for God and He gave you an answer that baffled you just for you to know that you are thinking like an ordinary man.

He said, "...the heavens are my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where, then is the house that you people can build for me...." Read 2Ch 6:18, when Solomon was building a temple for Him to understand it better. The Holyspirit teaches what is in line with the scripture. So beware of making false claims.

oiseworld: There's nothing wrong with women as pastors or heading a church. The work of a church head is a very powerful position spiritually, if the husband of the woman was very spiritually inclined and had decided to work with his wife to the depths, then she has no problem.

.... Women are suppose to be submissive to their husband and meet every of his human needs. Since the man is the head, what ever need she refuse to meet can be counted as disobedience, and this is not good for her ministry.

God would rather use single women or widows more than he would use a married lady, so as to avoid a conflict of interest. You know It won't be nice when when the husband says I want to eat pounded yam this evening and the woman says God asked me to go out now and speak with someone......no no no no...

Probably why time are the way they are. I hope I've helped.

^kindly give us one quote from the scripture to support all these things you wrote.

Ubenedictus: d chasm of infallibility doesnt delete tradition or scripture, it can only uphold it. Just d way anyone wu says "JESUS isn't lord" isnt from isnt from God so will one wu denies a point of tradition or scripture never become a pope.
Where u see idolatry, i see legit veneration, dat is what d earlier xtians practiced it and so does all ancient churches.

what of false traditions? Infallibility will also uphold them too? If you can't see idolatry in bowing to images and going against God's command then i wonder what good thing Catholics can teach people about God.

Ubenedictus: seriously? u brought a dead goat to b flogged. dis whole tin was discussed last year

Are talking about a deluded goat? The truth is now clear to you. It will be a last year discussion to you if you have changed.

But as for other catholics that are still into it, those that think they are seriously worshipping God, they need to see my explanations above and repent from that sin.

Ubenedictus: veneration of images was never a point of papal infalliability so claiming d pope comanded dat is like displaying ignorance.

Ok. Can't the pope use the spirit of infallibility to correct/delete that idolatry?