₦airaland Forum

Kingspin:
China is the one holding back the trade war

Open your economy like the US
Stop stealing company/private inventions/biz secrets or idea forcefully.

Then we can do business

Shepherd00:
So, Jesus Christ is Baal now?

Before it was 'Jesus is not believed' and God is not to be worshipped, today Jesus is Baal.


Maybe, I shd begin ignore you.


Sorry I responded to you.

sankky:
I keep noticing a nauseating pattern on nairaland...maybe its being encouraged by the owner because he is Yoruba.
.....Anyone that says anything that a Yoruba man doesn't like on nairaland is Igbo. Out of over 250 tribes in Nigeria, the implication becomes that no other tribe has d guts to dare disagree or argue with Yorubas except Igbos because the other tribes are COWARDS.
Even when Yorubas argue with each other on this forum, they call themselves Igbos for daring to disagree and start to insult every Igbo man.
Yet when they hear divide naija, they develop seizures because of the over N2trillion that all tribes (Igbos being the majority) pay to Apapa port annually in the name of importations while the deep sea ports in the entire SE/SS are wickedly blocked thereby forcing everyone to come to Lagos.
Obasanjo once opened the ports in the SS and Lagos almost collapsed as most southeasterners imported thru the SS so he quickly closed the SS ports. Who is deceiving who here?

budaatum:
Daalụ nke ukwuu

In my part of the world (likely just in my home, and note, I have Google translate!), you would even be insulting the visitor by slyly informing them they are unwelcome! And if I be man, I will tell my mother off!

Funny though. My ma would call her first born son to come and cook amala and ẹfọ riro for the in-laws when they come to ask for her daughters' hands in marriage just so she can say to her future son-in-law and family, "I hope you enjoyed the food that my first born and elder brother of my daughter you want to marry cooked. My daughter is not going to be a slave in your house, so keep your dowry"!

She fortunately has 4 daughters, all married.

bewla:
Banla won

budaatum:
The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!

1Sharon:
My dear, these Christians are lazy, greedy selfish people that simply give in the hope god will give back to them 10 fold and make them overnight millionaires. That is how black churches are around the world. That is what black people want. They want to reap where they didn't sow. Paying tithes is like playing the lottery

No matter how much you give, religion can't change a lazy, wicked, selfish person.

"Bribing" god in the form of tithes changes nothing.

Christians should think, is god stupid to give you what you don't deserve? Can you trick an- almighty God?

Maximus69:
Great!
So i suggest you don't need Tatime's attention for anything further.
Enjoy the company of all your neighbours!

Shepherd00:
What nonsense Buda. Is it that you do not know that you need to hallow the name of Jesus or you do not recognize Him as God? What has Baal got to do with anything here?

Wait and meet The Almighty God then shout 'Jesus Christ' to His face.


Your ignorant pride stinks.

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
If you likes to have more of Tatime, why not associate with JWs in your neighbourhood and start a free home Bible study with our brothers and sisters close to you!
I know Tatime is gifted with the power to impact knowledge but he is just one out of over 8,000,000 JWs who have received training from our GB!
I'm sure Jehovah will link you up with a much more efficient teacher of his word than Tatime, that is if you feel the need for it!

Maximus69:
Oh i spoke to him yesterday concerning you and he said he hasn't gotten the time!

Maximus69:
NO!
On the contrary, try to listen CAREFULLY to what they are all saying!
What they are saying is easy to grasp 'God shouldn't organise us as dependent agents'
All of them {including atheists} are on one side while a GROUP is on the other side.
They may tell you they believe in God, but their attitude is saying 'There is nothing like God' Mark 7:6-8
The word God means 'Supreme Being' and that connotes the ability to unite worshipers of a deity!
So if they're not ORGANISED in an orderly manner, then there is nothing other than a spirit of disorder permeating their midst! 2Corinthians 4:4
They can all see a GROUP that is standing tall above all of them, having the ability to unite all the worshipers from all races! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to Isaiah 2:2-4
About this GROUP God said 'when all other deities have failed but they desire to steal your name, then i will give you another name to distinguish you from them'! Isaiah 65:15
So this GROUP is the ONLY proof that there is a Supreme Being, that is why God called them HIS WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10-12
But while all other worshipers of smaller gods are confusingly claiming they're worshiping the same God, their REAL god{1John 5:19} is gathering them in smaller groups in order to war against God's ORGANISED people! Revelations 12:17 compared to Matthew 10:20-22, John 17:14-16
The war is in a spiritual sense, that is why you're seeing them all arguing amongst themselves but when they sight a member of the LIGHT GROUP they hypocritically become friends to criticise the LIGHT!

IAmSabrina:
LOL. The earlier you get used to buda, the better for you

HappyPagan:

As an aside, while the likes of Microsoft, Apple, HP, IBM were building technological solutions in the 1980s, some Nigerians were climbing mountains and hoping to hear from God.
About 50 years later, one side has produced engineers who have created the digital illusion we are all slaves to today.. Turned Silicon Valley to a digital leader.
The other side have produced prayer warriors, turned Lagos to Nigeria's Jerusalem.

HappyPagan:
Na so thread end.

Shepherd00:
Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

FirePower1:
Grace is the Word of God spoken to man that makes him different from animals and rule other creatures. Grace is God's love to mankind expressed in His Word. Grace is like lecture, when we take Him seriously, He is sufficient for us to pass all life examinations. Man never deserved his position in creation, he enjoys that privilege purely because that is the plan of God. David expressed this very well when after meditation he exclaimed "what is man the thou hath mindful of him?". Now, Grace is a He. He is the mind of God, He is the desire of God revealed to man, He is the manual for human lives, He is the Bible and He is Jesus Christ, in Him is Life and the Life is the Light of men. He was spoken to Adam (mankind) in the beginning but the devil was able to make Adam disregard Him. God decides to give us the second and better chance so the Word became flesh (like us) and dwell amongst us (accessible to us). Grace (The Word of God) is all we need in life, every other need is domicile in Him. Grace has two major parts, they are; blessing part (thou may freely eat of the fruit of the garden) and sanctification part (but of the tree that is in the middle if the garden, thou shall not eat). One part is invalid without the other part. Many of us only want God to bless us but we don't want to be under Him, but Grace is not for selfishness, it is for godliness (another word for self denial). Those who are lured, deceived or threatened into turning their backs on Grace automatically are faced with disgrace and shame sometimes without knowing it until God shows up at the dawn of the new day and all the counsel of the devil that seems to be covering their unclothedness are found to be inadequate. Please have active faith in the Grace of God and enjoy everlasting life. God bless you.

johnw47:
grace is a gift of God

Maximus69:
Thanks Sir!
The post was addressed the one asking NOT you Sir!
God bless you!

tititaiwo44:
Grace isn't what many people it is. Grace isn't unmerited favour, the only favour unmerited in the scriptures was the death of Christ, and there was correspondent action to accept it by believing Christ. if Grace was truly unmerited favour why isn't every christain rich and driving cars.
2pet 3:18- say grow in grace
grace is knowledge, and what you do with the knowledge that produces a result. ask anyone who has more grace than you do in a particular area, he would tell you he did something and knows something more than you do.
therefore, grow in grace. study the word and apply it and see yourself get results. grace comes with knowledge and ability, you grow in grace else you will stagnant. Grace is not unmerited favour

Bighead9:
I'm not an Afonja, I'm from the Region that is standing between you and your pipe dream Biafra.

Abini2012:
I aim to please

Maximus69:
Please are you quoting what buda believes presently or in the past when she was still an atheist? Act 22:3-4

TATIME:
Oh Maximus, Must you kill them by tormenting their souls with the TRUTH?
Why not just cool their thirsty tongues with a DROP of cool water {Silence} as you can see that they've become restless? Luke 16: 24

jesusjnr:
Imagine the irony of a human fool that would have the audacity to first come to my thread (https://www.nairaland.com/4798829/believing-jesus-without-obeying-words/4#73033990) and say "thunder fire Jesus" who is my Master, and also another thread of mine(https://www.nairaland.com/4985686/fallen-down-worshipped-baby-god#76745928) and label God, who made him from dust and ashes and put a brain in her human skull, childish and immature and needing to grow up etc., trying to teach the me that only sees myself as dust and ashes in the sight of God about humility, that should easily count as the joke of the year.

Thank God I treated buda as the utter fool that she truly was by opening a thread (https://www.nairaland.com/5085582/even-god-decides-destroy-all) that proved to prove to her that it smacked of utter foolishness and stupidity for any human made out of dust and ashes to see God her Creator as anything but perfect regardless of what He does.

And it seems the message struck home as buda very well knew that it was aimed at her to cure the extent of stupidity and pride in her mentality, as buda came with all fury to denounce that Truth concerning how vessels of dust and ashes should take their maker, but I proved to buda that i was ready to put buda in her true place of vanity for once.

So that was when buda campaign of calumny against jesusjnr actually commenced for buda would be going all over the place to be spreading falsehood and malicious lies concerning jesusjnr and ganging with all my haters to pull me down.

But unfortunately for buda, all her campaign against jesusjnr was guaranteed to fail as it has proven thus far and would continue to do, because the God of jesusjnr knows the truth as to why buda is actually after jesusjnr's head, for it was because jesusjnr was fighting for His cause and would not allow the most negligible and nothing buda who He made from dust and ashes to start insulting Him to that extent without any rebuke from me His servant.

So if buda likes buda can keep chasing shadows concerning her attempt to bring down jesusjnr and soil his character with baseless and unfounded accusations, for trying to correct her out of love for her gross error of labeling her own Maker "childish" and "immature" and "needing to grow up" for whatsoever reason.

For if that makes buda detest me so much and now sees me as proud and everything that buda says I am, because I didn't want buda to take that destructive lane, hence my correcting her out of love, then so be it.

p.s. Now people blaspheme the name of my God and insult Him for fun even as is well obvious, so that wasn't the point but that this came from budaatum someone I considered a friend here, so that gave the insult a very different dimension to me.

Maximus69:
There is no right thinking person who has got something to show for whatever he stands for, and still brags!
If two persons are arguing about who is wealthier nobody listens until they start spending, that is when observers will know for sure who truly have money.
The same thing happens here, there is no need claiming been Jesus' follower or holy spirit, it is your works or fruit{Galatians 5:22-23} that will prove how close you are to Jesus!

budaatum:
jesusjnr! Provide buda, "malicious lies"!

jesusjnr:
Only a fool would say this about someone and blame the person for any kind of response he gets.

Y'all bunch of deluded folks should keep the foolish, baseless and ignorant conversation going.

It amounts to vanity.

Maximus69:
Your stubbornness and arrogance will lead you nowhere Sir.
I never talked about Tatime nor mention the name of any organization, all i did was present facts from Jesus' statements pointing to salvation, and the next thing you did was speaking against the ONE and ONLY group you could think of that fits Jesus' description!
You said one of the members lied to you. OK share what he told you so that i may know if it's just a lie, and the next thing you do is referring me to another blog!
If nobody have told you before now know today that you're just a misinformed churchgoer assuming too much about himself.
The Jesus of Nazareth taught his own followers to be humble and respective NOT arrogant and puffed up with pride when there is nothing to show for it!