₦airaland Forum

Dantedasz:
I have told you before,if you have problems of comprehension I am not the one to help you.
You said I said the Bible sets you free? Are you sure you are not mixing me up as someone else?
Today is the first day I have been engaged by you and quite honestly it has not been a pleasant experience.

That's ok. You experience need not be pleasant.

Dantedasz:
This virgin birth story was stolen from pagan virgin birth stories of numerous sons of gods that preceded Christianity such as Hermes,Asclepius,Serapis and Zeus.
Even the festival of Christmas to commemorate the birth of Jesus was stolen from the Roman pagan sun God Sol Invictus.
Even the Resurrection stories were lifted from pagan gods like Osiris,Tammuz,and Adonis.
While there might have existed an itinerary teacher called Jesus,it is important to note that the Jesus of the Christian Bible is a clever invention of the Romans.

Amazing! The Romans invented Jesus from all the knowledge they stole from various other gods and cleverly invented Jesus and spread it around the world.

I guess the question now is, why they'd bother to provide you a book to learn about it from if their intention was to control you. You did say reading it sets you free! Are you claiming the "clever Romans" were not clever enough to know it would set you free perhaps?

Daviddson:
LOL. Satan works in such a way that he DOESN'T want you to even believe he exists. That the writer of that book told us to be wary of reading" too much meaning "to it already shows they're trying to hide the truth under the guise of Gothic architecture.

The satan whom Jesus told to "get behind one" works in mysterious ways that one cannot decipher its wily ways? You funny, Daviddson, or lazy.

Perfectbeing:
Take note, God never said (to Adam) "I will kill you the day you eat from this tree.. " He said rather that "you will surely die the day you eat from this tree... "

That's like giving a warning to someone about eating a particular food. Telling the person not to eat the food else he'll die... If the person eat the food and dies, you're not guilty of killing the person, are you?

That's what happened at the garden of Eden. Adam ate something he wasn't supposed to eat and the food killed him.. God never killed him..

Also God never cursed Adam or Eve after eating from the tree.. He only told them what will happen to them now that they've eaten the fruit.. Like a doctor telling a patient what will happen after he (the patient) ate poison..

I never said God killed Adam! But now that you bring it up, neither did Adam die! He lived for a very very long time after eating the fruit!

"When Adam had lived one hundred thirty years, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred thirty years; and he died". Gen 5: 3&5

He hadn't exactly lived long enough to die so perhaps God was not cursing Adam but stating the obvious that Adams was yet to know, as you say, except "[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A17&version=NRSV]cursed[/url] is the ground because of you" sounds very much like a curse, and it's unlikely [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A14&version=NRSV]cursed[/url] are you among all animals", was doctor to patient.

TVSA:
You just pulled that 2 Timothy 3:16 sh!t . You forgot Revelation 22:19

Revelation 22:19 KJV
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

This is how my pastor then used to shut us up if we have questions about some parts of the bible.

I'm glad you dumped your pastor because the same book has it written in there that there isn't enough paper to write what Christ did not to talk of everything else that might have happened.

Perhaps you were way past his class and your pastor didn't know the answers to your questions, though I doubt it since you seem to have missed that the text you posted says "don't remove from it", and not "don't add to it".

But. Do your eyes not work? Can you not read? Why were you taking the words of your pastor who looked on the image of God to tell you what the image looked like when you could have at least gone to the image yourself if not to God directly?

OpenYourEyes1:
40
probably GOD's special number. The devil knew it.

Jesus fasted without food unlike the fasting of Tammuz

I don't believe you have ever fasted at all, or you'd know its benefit even if it was just a sugar fast.

Tell. Have you ever fasted?

OpenYourEyes1:
How GOD described lent-like
observation in ancient Isreal

"Then he brought me to the entrance of the north gate of the house of the LORD, and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
He said to me, "Do you see this, son of man? You will see things that are even more detestable than this." — Ezekiel 8:14

I wonder what book Jesus was reading that made him fast! Or was Jesus detestably worshipping Tammuz?

Have you not looked at your pagan forebears yet? Answer me please. You are the only one here who knows.

Dantedasz:
Hmmm.
You are entitled to your opinion,even if it is all over the place. Some believe in a flat earth so different strokes for....
See you around

Actually, no! One is not entitled to one's opinion!

One can believe in one's head what one wants to, but once you've expressed it as an opinion on this here public forum where if anyone writes stupid nonsense that they can't back up with fact and evidence, smarter people will come to show them that's not true and if you refuse to at least consider the evidence they place before you they will just assume you are stupid!

At least that's what ought to happen in a thread with the word "intelligence" as topic or wouldn't you think?

Funaki:
when you start picking what you wish to obey from a book, you no longer believe in the supremacy of the book. According to the bible, the scriptures are the inspiration of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

So if you choose to disobey some commandment, you're disobeying God.

I am a human being for Christ sake! If I tell you I obey all that is in the Bible you must call me a liar because I'd be lying, and just by lying I'm sure we can find a commandment that says I mustn't! Besides, "All Scripture", and Jesus said, "not just the bread".

And note the "instruction in righteousness", as in " how to behave well" - at least going by a plain English definition; and not, "believe", which means the cooking up of nonsense in the head and accepting that it is true without checking the evidence.

Scripture itself is not God. It is an image of God, and we all know how God gets over images.

Funaki:
"It's dangerous to believe some parts are wrong. It makes everything questionable."

Everything is questionable!
Those who question not grow not!

Dantedasz:


So in this silly logic of yours,you cherry pick what each Bible passage means. Let me take my leave before you make me think I am banging my head on a stone wall.
Phew!!
It was not nice talking with you.

Yes, actually, you do "cherry pick what each Bible passage means" unless you haven't developed your brain yet and need someone to interpret it to you. Jesus cherry picked when he worked on the Sabbath.

When you grow up, you too would stop believing childishly because you should have developed the ability to understand and discern for yourself.

Funaki:
Christians, that I know, believe in biblical inerrancy.

"It's dangerous to believe some parts are wrong. It makes everything questionable."

Please get to know more Christians. Not all "believe in biblical inerrancy, and even those you know would not obey quite a lot of the stuff in it.

Some Christians don't even do "believe" since they are aware that there can't be any merit in what even satan does. They'd rather know and understand instead of tremble.

Dantedasz:
If comprehension is a problem to you,I am sorry I can't honestly be of any help to you.

Who has headache from banging their head against a wall again? You seem to have forgotten.

Anduku:
The liberal media doin machine is at full throttle today and spinning away. Mueller found no collusion and didn't decide on obstruction just like bill Barr said. End of story

"End of story" lol! As if you'd "end of story" if it were your opponent! "Start of story", if anything. The opposition are not letting this go.

Dantedasz:

Was that meant to be an "intelligent question" ?
I suggest you used a few words.

Dantedasz:
Arguments with some of them is a complete waste of your time. Just like consistently banging your head on a concrete wall.

Serves you right really for "consistently banging your head on a concrete wall". It doesn't exactly show you're intelligent!

Perhaps try reasoning instead of arguing. It's what intelligent people do.

Dantedasz:

Chioma probably does not realise she is committing a sin according to the Bible by trying to preach to men.
According to the Bible women are to be SILENT .

Or, Chioma rightly knows the Bible is a human made image of God, and is not God!

Funaki:
The bible was [b]influenced by the culture and tradition of the writer[/b]s. That is one of the reasons I don't believe it's divinely inspired. Paul's language against women was just too harsh. If he is to write the letters in this 21st century, his letters will have been different.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 KJV
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

That's the reason you need to allow your understanding of what you read to evolve into 21st century thinking. Some bits are not "do as you're told bits" but "Yuk! Look how barbaric they were" bits that are meant to disgust and show you shouldn't emulate.

MrPresident1:
Nairaland is contributing in its own way to make Nigerians stupider.

Nigerians used to be intelligent, but not again, the odds are stacked against us, even Nairaland also is a vehicle of the dumbing down agenda.

Oh I don't agree with you that "Nairaland is contributing in its own way to make Nigerians stupider". Not at all Mr, I wouldn't. Nairaland is in fact one place to get cured of stupid for there's people here making people think and reason which cures stupid unless they close their eyes to the evidence then we at least all know them for the stupids they are.

I guess we could say collusion was not found because Trump obstructed the view.

jaxxy:
Blackberry shud focus on nice phones and go back to the old software platform if possible and work on an update then phase out of android. Bb 10 was a wack software. The Fone designs after bold 5 especially the infamous z10 and z30 were terrible, battery issues were almost unforgivable. They sunk their own ship sadly.

The Z30 was actually a fantastic phone! And the Motion is an Android upgrade of it. The only thing letting it down is its high price for a mid-level phone with its subpar camera. The battery in it just keeps going two days long!

OpenYourEyes1:
Lent was instituted by nimrod's (or baal's) mother semiramis(or Ishtar). It was designated a forty day period to mark the anniversary of Tammuz's death... Tammuz was killed by wild pig.
Eating of meat was avoided in order to mourn his death

Nimrod might have been mourning Tammuz but Jesus [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]fasted for 40 days[/url] and afterwards sent the devil running with his tail between his legs so he must have considered it a good thing to do and those who worship him likely should too. We can always claim we fast to celebrate the death of satan since we're not likely to mourn its death.

searchlight:
lolssss you called my people failures but my ex governor left over #67b in my state treasury, my current state governor pays salary without federal allocation, my state has been first and up there in SSCE for 5 years and counting, the road network here is what kwarans crave for, our medical facility is the dream of the people of Kwara, all these and many more are what saraki couldn't provide for you which made you hate him if I'm thinking right. how then do you call my people failures? compare anambra state and Kwara state and state which state is a failure. lest I forget the only notable names from Kwara state has been from the saraki dynasty which you put up your all your energy to defame and demarket. the highest office holder in Nigeria from Kwara state is Bukola saraki who's a criminal according to you, the next could be Olusola saraki and other sarakis. then come to my state. we have Nnamdi Azikiwe, nwafor orizu, Alex Ekwueme, Pro Chinua Achebe, chuba okadigbo, to mention but a few. if the best you have are (sarakis) criminals and failures then how do you call other people failures? Kwara is a failed state and her people like Bukola, you, your father and their likes are failed people. think about it

Excuse me, people like that are in your state and you want the likes of Saraki as sp of the Federal Republic of Nigeria? Dem don all die? Or you just hoping Naija go wowo more?

The fact that he's from one's state is not enough to make one not know good from bad. Please use your search light small!

searchlight:
and he's proven you wrong by being the best sp since 1999. wait a bit. you know he's bad right from Kwara but voted him to the Senate? do you mean kwarans are this dumb? he did so bad in Kwara but you followed him from PDP to APC and suddenly you realise how bad he has been when he started opposing buhari. your brain seems to be programmed.

I don't agree he was the best SP since 1999. The best Senate perhaps, but in no way was Saraki the best sp! I doubt pdp would want his baggage, though they'd gladly take his money. I can see Kwarans who would vote him going from otoge to iwolafe in the very distant future. Saraki is back nowhere until after 2035 at least, I reckon.

searchlight:
and becoming the sp just brought him to national prominence. I don't think he regret all of these at all. he will be back in 2023 when PDP will Boyce back.

I guess we have different standards. You admire the fact that silver spoon fed Saraki got to be SP, that's why you don't mind the havoc he did in Kwara. While I'm disappointed at what he did when he got there though we knew he was crap from what he'd already done in Kwara.

searchlight:
however you take saraki in your local Kwara state is your own cup of tea. you can cry back to your father and query him on his location when saraki took over Kwara state. the name Bukola saraki came into national limelight when he became the president of the 8th senate and so far as the SP he has done more than anybody who's occupied that position. I'm sorry on behalf of saraki for messing up your dear Kwara up but I still call you zombie because had saraki stayed back in APC you would have still voted him to power. this saraki did all that to kwarans for 8years but out if kwarans stupidity he was voted back to the senate twice. was saraki against kwarans as senate president? or you just realised he's bad when he started opposing your God Buhari? were you not aware of how bad saraki was all this while he was governor, what did he do differently against the people of Kwara as senate president? zombies don't reason anyway so you aren't exception

Excuse me but Saraki was bad! We all knew he was bad was why we never wanted him as SP. But he stole it! With the help of his thieving pdp friends, he stole it when no one was watching!

We hope Saraki learns. And trust me, we will be giving him a long long time to, like 20 years. We Nigerians don't forget easy. And this "zombie" knows good behaviour!

Buhari’s emergency bill will ask the National Assembly for sweeping powers to set aside some extant laws, and empower the President to roll out an economic recovery plan within one year.The National Association of Nigerian Students agrees that laws that no longer fulfil their purposes should be amended or weeded out.

The objectives of the emergency bill are to strengthen the naira; create more jobs; revive the manufacturing sector; and improve delivery of electricity.To achieve these, the bill wants to reduce the processing period for government procurements to less than six months; stimulate spending in critical sectors of the economy; increase mobilisation fee of local contractors from 15 to 50 per cent; and reduce the timeframe for sale or lease of government assets to generate non-oil revenue.

Go get them Sai Bu! Or don't we have emergency?

Vokians:
Is the implementation for both public and private sector?

Sounds like it. "Compulsory for all employers of labour in Nigeria" except your employ less that 25, they work in your ship (I'm sure that should have been 'on your ship'!) or "regulated employment", whatever that is.

I see the price of everything going up here. Anyone want to take a guess on the price of a litre of petrol?For guidance, crude is testing $70/bbl. Give price and date expected please. Gari nko? And a gallon of groundnut and palm oil?

Awol1:
Saraki is the greatest man yet, to ever occupy the position of the Senate presidency of Nigeria.

An intelligent guy.

A presidential material.

The APC propagandists are trying so hard to wear the tag of corruption on Saraki, just like Atiku is wearing.

But Saraki will be back. He's too young and too tactical to be gone.

Oloye! You got a fan in me.

Saraki will hopefully learn from his mistakes.
I see him become President of Nigeria someday.

Timbuktuo:
You're right. The biggest leaks should be plugged and the smaller, less dangerous ones tended to after. Then, consider how much more important defense is colored to other items on the appropriations list.

The challenge is the government of the day having the will and courage to incisive audits and budget adjustments where required. In the US, though, the Military Industrial Complex is a ruthless beast. I'm not sure Trump can successfully take them on at the point in time, or if he even has any such intentions.

Intentions? Lol! I think the "Military Industrial Complex" is so ruthless a beast that anybody who becomes president knows to take a share and shut the fuq up or get eat. Besides, Trump had pledged to "rebuild" the military as part of his 2016 Presidential campaign and he is not known to go against his own intentions or turn down a dollar. I expect him to have a war somewhere before his second term ends if he ever gets one. That's why some are fighting him now to make sure he doesn't; racism, the wall, abortion rights, all just smokes of distraction. We got to Tuesday, 3 November 2020 to stop him. Eyes sure are open enough to see him coming.

The link has worth read about the "beast" for any interested.