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jesmond3945:And in your first sentence, you show how myopic and unexposed you are! You carry your Naija mentality and think its a mentality that applies to the whole world! Fiona was not done because she is black. She was done because she committed a crime. Besides, it's UK, where being black can actually be a defence if you've done nothing wrong, and more oyinbo mps get jailed than you seem to know of! You may want to read about the MPs Expense Scandal. Also, On 19 July 2001, Jeffrey Archer was found guilty of perjury and perverting the course of justice at the 1987 trial. He was sentenced to four years' imprisonment by Mr Justice Potts. |
symbianDON:This is a lesson to us all. It's the people in her constituency who kicked her out. And its us, the people of Nigeria, who don't kick out our own corrupt leaders. |
SoNature:Excuse me but we still have six good Nigerians left in Commons and Oyinbo people do tend to look at the evidence instead of believing the nonsense cooked up in the heads. The Jackson 5 taught them that one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wunv9U4IWk |
rickyboss333:She's fortunate. These stones won't kill her. |
rickyboss333:One is a "victim of Infidelity" when ones assumed, or stated contract, regarding emotional and/or sexual exclusivity has been violated when one's partner cheats, strays, commits adultery, is unfaithful, or has an affair when married. Op is in no way the victim here but the assailant and attacker! And besides, she has no remorse. She "enjoyed it a lot" and wants to "do it again!" We are not condemning and crucifying her, please, we don't even know her. We are just stating our opinion, and our words convict us too. There is a reason "thou shalt not commit adultery" is one of ten. |
LordReed:Got to 5:35. Question asked to that point is absurd. It implies all those atoms et al are what influence one's choices in complete disregard to the intellect and wisdom of the chooser. Surely they may have a role to play and even more so with some. I find I have a will. It's a force I extend when I say "let there be food on my table" and there is food. I've tested it even. Sometimes I state precisely what food I will on my table and that food is there. Yesterday, I willed penne piscatora, it was delicious. But my will does not extend to just what I shove in my mouth. Nor of course can I just will willy nilly and there is light or anything like that. But within my own capabilities, which I constantly improve, my will is free for me to chose to use or not use, and whenever I don't, I end up eating yesterdays leftovers. Thankfully it tastes so good! What did you make of it. Need I watch the rest? |
rakish:Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man. But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think that’s at least part of what we’ve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength can’t resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattis’s to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites. Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it — this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room. James Comey: How Trump Co-opts Leaders Like Bill Barr |
sisisioge:How does he "foqs another girl lovingly and wholeheartedly" and "adores his wife lovingly and wholeheartedly" at the same time? Does he have two hearts for the "wholeheartedly" and two more for the "adores" and "lovingly"? He must good at multitasking. Or the wife and "another girl" place so little on their worth they have very low demands on him. I wonder what he'd say if he's wife were as skilled as he is. |
OyinbowithaTan:Persecution of black people in Nazi Germany |
GraGra247:"an honest adulterous man" lol. The sort who comes home to say he's been fuqing out. |
Kenneth4u205:The "spiritual symbolism" of how she stuck her filthy fingers into her congregations pockets by playing on their ignorant beliefs? That's what yahoo yahoos do in case you aren't aware! They promise undeliverable rewards in exchange for current ownings. Unless she delivers on that "new beginning a new resurrection of what was dead before in their life and career", which I doubt she could, there'd be nothing spiritual in their empty pockets. |
OyinbowithaTan:Just imagine a white person making the claim he's making! If he was aryan we'd have had him by now! |
mysticwarrior:Hitler built death chambers and directly gassed "his own people"! Unless your claim is German Jews were not German, and disregard all the non-aryan Germans, the disabled, feebleminded, blacks, gypsies, and many more in nations he conquered that he also exterminated. I'd say Hitler was worse than Stalin. And even if Stalin was worse it still doesn't make Hitler any good, and the notion that he'd be hated more for killing a few gay people, a very tiny proportion of those he killed, is preposterous at the least and shows limited knowledge of Hitler and Europe at the time, in my opinion. |
mysticwarrior:How many Germans died directly under Hitler again? Remind me please, I frogret. |
panafrican:And no Europe as we know it! If Hitler had won the war he very likely would have cleaned Africa of it's black people at the rate he was going! In fact, were you taught history in school? It's not too late for you to read a book or two! |
Pass the oz of pink kush in your mouth. |
[s]Make sure you avoid distractors please. They deprive the interested and take more time than they are worth.[/s] Wrote that then remembered I was one of those distractors on this very thread so scrapped that and posted my confession! Continue LoJ, please. |
LordReed:We have to thank them for showing how they reason if nothing else. |
I see you taking the glory for God's work. Or do you really think you done it? Welcome back Tatime. TATIME: |
Gilbertase:Funny enough, two of the grounds Nigerians give the most for seeking asylum in Europe is religious persecution and being gay. But I think Europe has cottoned on now going by the increase in deportations. It is amusing some claim "its a contagious disease", which it isn't just as ignorance isn't either. No gay person is asking to be anyone's friend, Gilbert, especially not those who don't accept them for who they are. Many aren't even asking their family, sometimes parents, brothers and sisters who don't accept them to be their friends, so why would they be asking some unknown gay hatter to be their friend? If they are just you tell them where to go, and if they force you, it's a crime called rape! The gay battle is often for the right to live and engage in the enjoyment of their sexual relationships with consenting adults like themselves in nations where it isn't illegal and they fight to decriminalise it where it is illegal. That's not asking you to be their friend, or even be nice to them if you don't want to, please o! Just when some claim they are paedophiles when they are only homosexuals I expect them to take offence since the two are clearly not the same. |
abbey621:I'm liberal I'm told. No not a thief. I live and let live so long as your living affects me not. Besides, wouldn't it sound contradictory if I argued for a person's right to dip their prick where they want but you mustn't think in your head what you want? It's your head. Prick it with what you want please, you don't need consent. |
abbey621:No one says consent is relevant when it comes to morality. Nigeria is a clear example where people claim everyone is a thief to justify their stealing. Everyone stealing does not make stealing any less immoral, at least as deemed by most societies barring one full of thieves. My Lord, stop telling abbey621 to bend over. He said he no do! There, abbey621, I've told my Lord not to affect your homophobia. |
PAGAN9JA:You mentioned Sango but perhaps your Sango is not the Yoruba Sango or I just have different stories regarding him. If only we had evolved writing things down. That is what would gave kept our culture alive. Even now our nation intentionally decides not to teach history, which is what we would be discussing if we were rational by the way, instead of insulting one another over the detail! Ibeji is a Yoruba Orisha represented on earth by twins. It is believed that they are magical and are protected by Sango but if one dies, curses would befall the family. So in order to avoid the curses in periods when most children died in infancy, some murdered both at birth. It was rampant at a time so Ifa elders consulted Sango himself long before the "arrival of foreign messiahs". Sango told them ibeji is a sacred spirit. He required that the mother of twins dance to the spirit of Ibeji every five days and thus was twin killing abolished amongst the Yoruba (or started to be abolished since such things do not stop immediately). I am budaatum, Omo Basorun of the Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun. My Kehinde just left. We had Chinese and I made her pizza to take with her. She came for ma's 80 last Saturday with her hubby and her daughter. Taiwo too lives. The single failure of our traditions and what made it die is our own failure to evolve them and pass them down since we never generation proofed it by writing it in books. I wonder if its because we had something to hide so replaced it with "some foreign messiah" because it was superior? I do not believe my forebears would hold on to the inferior and ignore the superior. Awa ma n'jawo ninu apon tio yo lo gbe omi ila ka ina, we stop the old and try something new. And I can assure you Yorubas at least, have not abandoned our culture and traditions despite abandoning Sango. Our culture and traditions are way beyond religion which is why we worship foreign messiahs pretty much the way we worshipped our gods - according to our own cultures and traditions, albeit, evolved, and despite no new wines in old bottles. Refs . "The Trouble with Twins: Image and Ritual of the Yoruba ère ìbejì" This Nigerian tribe used to kill twins believed to be evil, a ‘god’ stopped the practice |
abbey621:He never said what you've understood, abbey621. The keys phrase is the following: "If a society deems 11 year olds as capable moral agents it means they have determined that 11 yr olds can make moral decisions." Who are the "society" that "deems 11 year olds as capable moral agents"? Would have been the more appropriate question. Is it not you, father of 11 year olds, who would be deeming? And don't forget that after society deems, you can still deem different under your own roof. But then, you are talking "sexual abuse" when my Lord is talking about consensual, as in where the 11 year old parties involved have agreed to do a thing after we their parents in the society have deemed them capable of giving consent. I don't think anyone is deemed capable of giving consent where "sexual abuse" is concerned though, whatever the age. Over in UK, sex education is taught in primary school where children learn what inappropriate behaviour is and what to do if they are victims of it. They are also taught of the different family structures that exist in response to schoolmates who have two daddies or two mummies, or where daddy is a woman and mummy a man. Despite all that education, UK has not deemed you a capable moral agents until you are 16. Personally, I would not deem a 25 year old capable of moral agency or of giving consent, but at some point my deeming becomes irrelevant if I don't teach my child what it should do and leave it to society to deem for my 11 year old for me. I had to say because you either missed my Lords point or...... LordReed: |
Daviddson:Some titbit. Polygamy and bigamy are illegal in the US, but as the Utah show Sister Wives proves, it goes on anyway. Many people use these terms interchangeably, but there are some differences. I Do, I Do, I Do: Is Polygamy Legal? In an isolated, rural community in a far southern corner of Utah, oversized houses stand testament to a fundamentalist Mormon sect whose followers believe that plural marriage, as they call polygamy, can lead to eternal salvation. Amid a dramatic landscape of copper-red mountains and achingly blue skies, women wear modest, ankle-skimming dresses and keep their hair long so they can anoint and wash their men’s feet with their locks in the afterlife. A dozen “sister wives” might be married to a single man, and they all raise their children by him together. Their life in the hardscrabble region, where unpaved roads predominate, has always been half a century behind the rest of the US. As a polygamist community crumbles, 'sister wives' are forced from homes A U.S. federal judge struck down a portion of Utah's bigamy laws as unconstitutional on Friday, siding with a reality television star and his four wives. Polygamy is illegal in all 50 states. But Utah's law is unique in that a person can be found guilty not just for having two legal marriage licenses, but also for cohabiting with another adult in a marriage-like relationship when they are already legally married to someone else. U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups ruled that the second aspect is too broad because it bars consenting adults from living together and criminalizes their intimate sexual relationships. Part of Utah's bigamy law struck down in victory for U.S. TV star |
TVSA:Who's fault is it that "Nigerians argue and defend foreign god that the colonial masters sold to our fore fathers"? Do many have the opportunity to learn about Sango? Have you ever heard of Sango Secondary School? Is it not true that most parents teach their children about foreign gods? Some people should perhaps go tell their parents how stupid they might be being! But before you do, consider wondering why you aren't teaching that same Sango to your children or sending it to Sango Secondary School. When I'm home, I join in with no regard for those who oppose. I'm in the mosque, in the church, we worship Owala, Sango, Ogun, and my people would collect money from me for Oro, and all that when I was an atheist. I so loved telling people that if any god is against my so doing that god should send me a memo. If you listen to people the blame is yours. |
PAGAN9JA:Beats twin killings, human trading and "killing and destroying in the name of religion" which we did, and "speaking in tongues, throwing all responsibility on god, acting mad", which we also did, all before foreign messiahs arrived. I think your error might be that you blame religion instead of the humans who use religion badly. No religion says anyone should do any of the above, at least not any god. |
PAGAN9JA:Our inability to evolve was what allowed "some foreign messiah to give us knowledge and come and save us", and it does "itself speak of our failure to grow". If we had grown, we would not have required foreign salvation! Nonetheless, we are currently "adding a lot to the vast troves of spiritual, medicinal, etc. , knowledge built upon the traditional foundations". Most do after all treat the foreign gods as they treated the traditional gods when you look deeply into it. As to losing the "remaining traditional foundations", the religious aspect to be specific, not many are prepared to go as far back to placing their faith in gods of iron and thunder after we've evolved to the Spirit of God being within. |
And she is not the Prime Minister! |
abbey621:You might need Google more than I do. You'd find those abused in childhood were more traumatised than anything and do not necessarily become perpetrators of the abuse they received. If it did, they could use mental trauma as an excuse when caught and get off. Do please provide me with links. I hate being ignorant. |
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