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Crime › Re: 15-year-old Gay Boy, Nigel Shelby Committed Suicide Over Bullying In US by budaatum: 8:39pm On Apr 23, 2019
abbey621:
It depends on the point of view. That of the rapist or the victim? Rapists will claim they can't help it, same reason homosexuals and pedophiles give when caught. So what makes one right over the other?
Same way you can't resist having the sex you have perhaps? Should we ban you too then.

Please provide evidence for your claim that "rapists can't help it". I think you are very misinformed.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Australian Prime Minister Breastfeeding On Duty by budaatum: 7:10pm On Apr 23, 2019
MistadeRegal:
Qualities of being a mother without being hindered by her job or vice versa. Only that in Nigeria, we just think in reverse at times and overhype useless stuffs like, "That's very wrong to do while at work."
This is a stunt! She could have breastfed her child beforehand or afterwards with better planning. And while I approve, I'd doubt I'd like my employees bringing their child to work, nor would I stick my tit in a babies mouth in front of them!

Poor child though. Would forever be know as child breasttitted in parliament.
Crime › Re: 15-year-old Gay Boy, Nigel Shelby Committed Suicide Over Bullying In US by budaatum: 6:16pm On Apr 23, 2019
abbey621:
Do you know most pedophiles can't help themselves? They love kids romantically, why should they be denied their feelings and right to love?
I wonder if you believe a rapist loves the person they rape romantically too.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Call To All Nigerian Tribes by budaatum: 6:03pm On Apr 23, 2019
PAGAN9JA:
Human sacrifice of whom? Did any tribe sacrifice their own people or was it their captured enemies and criminals that were sacrificed?

Paganism is not based on books. It evolves with time keeping its core concepts intact.

Who are our enemies today? All these terrorists and criminals let them be sacrificed at the altar. If innocent animals can be sacrificed then violent humans must not be immune to sacrifice.


Hindusim, Shintoism CTR and all other numerous existing Pagan faiths, you think they never sacrificed humans? They did but they evolved with changing times. They are not book-based faiths. Unfortunately the "religion of the book" refuse to adapt to the 21st centuries. They are rigid , not abstract. This is why they are the source of all religious conflict.

The Pagan is tolerant to all faiths but if his existence is threatened then he is the devil himself.
Our captured enemies were sometimes our neighbours or the village next door! I agree it has evolved though. Just like all religions have. I in fact think it is that evolved form that we practise today, albeit with some foreign spices to give it flavour. Evidence suggests those book religions evolve too. Not many impose ancient penalties from their books anymore for instance. I just don't think our ancestors religion evolved fast enough to survive is all. And I doubt we could or want to go backwards.

I'm not for any forms of Sharia myself. Jail is good enough for criminals, and we know sacrifices do not get to the gods.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Call To All Nigerian Tribes by budaatum:
How far back do you propose we go Pagan? Far back enough and my forefathers worship involved human sacrifice.

Your call is no different to a Christian calling for a return to the days of Moses by the way, in total disregard to any progress since then.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 3:55pm On Apr 23, 2019
Maximus69:
OK Ma! I just want to notify you for the reason why i'm not responding to your post unlike others. But once i'm sure that you're part of some 'we' it's settled! wink
You don't have to respond to my posts. There are readers here who appreciate the facts.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 3:29pm On Apr 23, 2019
Maximus69:
Tatime bid you goodbye budaatum and so do i! smiley
Tatime may have gone for now, but I haven't seen you leave yet so I assumed you weren't bye. Trust me, we will know when you are gone.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 3:06pm On Apr 23, 2019
Maximus69:
So if you want to gain from the new covenant today you must meet the other sheep who will introduce you to the priests who in turn will introduce you to Jesus who will in turn introduce you to Jehovah! That is the PROTOCOL. smiley
That protocol is not biblical! Below is Martin Luther opposing it in 1520@when the leaders of the Church were proposing it.

That the pope or bishop anoints, makes tonsures, ordains, consecrates, or dresses differently from the laity, may make a hypocrite or an idolatrous oil-painted icon, but it in no way makes a Christian or spiritual human being. In fact, we are all consecrated priests through Baptism, as St. Peter in 1 Peter 2[:9] says, "You are a royal priesthood and a priestly kingdom," and Revelation [5:10], "Through your blood you have made us into priests and kings."

Two months later Luther would write in his On the Babylonian Captivity of the Church (1520):

"How then if they are forced to admit that we are all equally priests, as many of us as are baptized, and by this way we truly are; while to them is committed only the Ministry (ministerium) and consented to by us (nostro consensu)? If they recognize this they would know that they have no right to exercise power over us (ius imperii, in what has not been committed to them) except insofar as we may have granted it to them, for thus it says in 1 Peter 2, "You are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a priestly kingdom." In this way we are all priests, as many of us as are Christians. There are indeed priests whom we call ministers. They are chosen from among us, and who do everything in our name. That is a priesthood which is nothing else than the Ministry. Thus 1 Corinthians 4:1: "No one should regard us as anything else than ministers of Christ and dispensers of the mysteries of God.
Education › Re: Jamb Declares Exam Inconclusive Sets New Date For Exam by budaatum: 2:37pm On Apr 23, 2019
The Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board (JAMB) has explained why results of the 2019 Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination have not been released.

JAMB’s Head of Information, Dr. Fabian Benjamin during an interview in Abuja on Wednesday, April 17, 2019, said the exam body discovered that some candidates who wrote the 2019 UTME engaged in massive fraud and impersonation.

Fabian said the Board has started screening the results of all candidates that sat for the examination adding that JAMB would release the result as soon as it finished the screening.

He said : “We will not release the results in a hurry. We will do a lot of crosschecking and matchmaking to be sure that nobody that was engaged in illicit act go scot-free.

“We will release the results as soon as we finish checking the results to ensure that all those ones that we caught in various illicit registration acts are properly dealt with and those that we could not arrest are withheld.

“We will release the results when we finish doing our screening. We are screening the whole results.

“We don’t have the numbers now but we won’t release any result until we are sure of the whole thing.”

Fabian also said over 100 people have been arrested for impersonation and other fraudulent practices during the examination.“We are picking them across the nation. As at today, we have picked up over a hundred candidates and we are still picking.

“Though we may not be able to pick all of them because of logistics problem and the state but what we are doing now for those we could not pick who may have written the exam and gone, we are fishing them out true their result.” the JAMB spokesperson said.

Moreover, JAMB Registrar, Prof Ishaq Oloyede has also said that thousands of candidates who sat for the 2018 UTME won’t get their results because of examination malpractices.

Oloyede said this in Lagos on Tuesday, April 16, 2019, during the arrest of two children of the owner of a computer-based test (CBT) who allegedly confessed to selling fake UTME questions and answers to unsuspecting candidates.

In 2018, JAMB recorded 280 cases of examination malpractice across the country, while in 2017, it recorded 2,508 cases.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/jamb-explains-why-2019-utme-results-have-not-been-released/1d730q8
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 1:57pm On Apr 23, 2019
Maximus69:
Jesus mediated between God and ONLY them, so whoever wish to be taken into their kingdom MUST first of all acknowledge them! Matthew 25:31-46
"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats". Matthew 25:31–46

The text does not in anyway imply that "Jesus mediated between God and ONLY them" ! Scripture clearly states he came to save the entire world and would go after even one single lost sheep, and to be honest with you, I can't bet Jesus wouldn't save repentant goats!

Nor is it mentioned anywhere that "whoever wish to be taken into their kingdom MUST first of all acknowledge them"! Through Christ alone, saith the Word. And not, "through some other messiahs called jw"!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 1:45pm On Apr 23, 2019
Maximus69:
Partakers in the government are NOT elected by the [reasonable or stupid] people but CHOSEN by God. So even those Chosen follow divine arrangement. Revelations 14:1
Partakers can ONLY know their Emperor[President] but the PERSON given orders to the Emperor remains ANONYMOUS! 1Corinthians 2:16
All the subjects must bow to whatever the Emperor says without hesitation, NO questioning! Philippians 2:9-11
So people prefer Leadership when they will always have a say even if their idea is stupid so far the person in the front was ELECTED by them!
But God prefer Rulership by IRON hand! Revelations 2:27
I can very well assure you that systems of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god are long gone. We have had many in the past but even in the Bible, not since Samuel, I think, and God told him to hand over to a King. Even long before that it was judges who ruled, and not the priests. I don't even think the sons of Aaron ever ruled nor the priesthood house of the Levites. Could someone correct me where I err please.

People thought Jesus was coming from God to be an earthly king but we saw what sort of king he was, the day of celebration of what we did to him not long gone! And even if "God preferred Rulership by IRON hand" (and I must say the evidence in support of this claim is slim!), God has never ever imposed "Rulership by IRON hand", ever! Not in the Garden of Eden on Adam and Eve, and not on the angels long before them nor the Israelites at any one time. Not one single instance has God ever ruled with iron hands! Please correct me if you know of an instance.

I'm in fact inclined to say that God has never ever ruled but always delegated dominion over the earth to us humans. Why you think all of us will sit unworthily at the bottom of the mountain waiting for anybody, not to talk of JWs, to go up the mountain and return to tell us what God said amuses me. I guess you fail to reckon with those of us who'd say, "What the fuq, Lord! Has Moses got two heads?! Is it not you who created us also? We are coming up too to look on your face God!" Or perhaps we'd be gotten rid of first?

We will always have a say, Maximus69. Even in countries ruled by islamic theocrats people are rising up and having a say, so how you plan to impose "bow to whatever the Emperor says without hesitation, NO questioning", amuses me. Don't you JWs refuse to join in governance? I wonder if you vote even!? I wonder too what promises have been made to make you believe you'd be one of the rulers. The old "We are the happy chosen few" ideology, perhaps?

I now see the motive that drives JWs, at least, according to you, and why you have to conceal it. World dominance? Good luck with that Maximus69. Lol.
Islam › Re: Christchurch Prayers Al Noor Mosque by budaatum(op): 11:41am On Apr 23, 2019
true2god:
What about the Islamic terrorism in Sri Lanka this Easter where almost 300 Christians died from suicide bombing?
You mean, what about the terrorists in Sri Lanka.....

I hope they get caught and rot in jail!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:29am On Apr 23, 2019
Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it. I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too. A legitimate question Republicans are asking is whether the potential "collusion" narrative was invented to cover up the Obama administration's failures.
Mueller's report looks bad for Obama
Christianity Etc › Re: Today It's Gay Rights. Tomorrow It Would Be Ritualists, Paedophiles Rights etc. by budaatum: 3:06am On Apr 23, 2019
Michellekabod1:
Am speechless my dear....can I unread what I just read?
Oh my comparing gay rights to pedophile rights? I am running nuts! I guess I have to limit my presence on Nairaland because this is the height of ignorance
Ignored is indeed its best course. Unfortunately we must educate op I'm afraid least it be thought we are incapable of stoning on Gods behalf. Except this thread of his is childish bait and no gay person needs his warped approval. I'm going to trust in God to make of it what God will. Shame though. Shame.
Politics › Soyinka On Hardtalk by budaatum(op): 2:51am On Apr 23, 2019
HARDtalk, Wole Soyinka - Nobel Literature Laureate:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0004gb4 via @bbciplayer

Summary (because someone will ask!)
Buhari won first election by default
Choice between devil and hard place
Nigeria not peculiar with ex military presidents
Wrote on toilet paper while in prison. Made own pen and soyink.
Became inventive and innovative in prison
Youths (young minds) should mobilise - the ashamed, seen different, not complacent
Democracy a continuous process. If present fails we must take risk
Youth leader Olisa Agbakogba sought approval of old foggy and got highjacked
Corruption humongous problem, but there's been change, no more business as usual, pass for Buhari
Young have to know country is theirs.
President should have stopped boko haram when states declared Sharia
Buhari was slow responding to herdsmen crisis, apathetic like Jonathan.
Not into African languages prefers lingua franca
Wants to be read by all and not just Yorubas
There's more.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Will It Be Moral To Make Clones For Organ Harvesting? by budaatum: 10:32pm On Apr 22, 2019
Another question. Is there a connection between the intersubjective and the Collective unconscious as coined by Carl Jung to "refer to structures of the unconscious mind which are shared among beings of the same species"? (Or it's part inverse even, 'collective consciousness'?)
Politics › Re: When Will Nigeria Be Like This Again? (Pictured) by budaatum: 10:24pm On Apr 22, 2019
OkaNaUbe:
From 1970s (1972 to be precise) up to 80's.
Where did you live?
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 10:18pm On Apr 22, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
This comment is extremely true, because I recall an incident in 1999 at the departure lounge of one of these European city airport. I usually back in the day then, carry my miniature red sleeve jacket KJV bible on me when travelling and definitely was reading it on this particular day, whilst waiting to be called to start boarding the flight, because this young lady, when I got up and was about walking past where she sat to go the toilet or maybe get something like a drink or snack, got my intention and started asking, apparently because of earlier spotting me with the miniature red sleeve jacket KJV bible, if I am JW, surprisingly when I didnt say, Yes, but I said No and that I am a believer, I noticed the mood changed quickly to disinterest and a brick wall suddenly shot up. I inwardly SMH for her whilst walking along. I'll never forget that incident, it reminds me of the story in heaven, when Angel Gabriel was asked who were the lot at the other end of heaven, and his response was they are JWs, but dont tell them who you are, as they think they are the only ones present in heaven
I had similar with Papa Roger too, come to think of it!
Politics › Re: When Will Nigeria Be Like This Again? (Pictured) by budaatum: 10:15pm On Apr 22, 2019
OkaNaUbe:
I remember those days when there was steady power supply. If there is any reason for a break in power transmission, ECN (later called NEPA, which was in turn privatised) did publish a notice and/or announce it on TV days beforehand and power is restored as at the time stated in the said public announcement.

When will Nigeria be like this again?
Please remind me what year that was please.
Politics › Re: Festus Keyamo In Prison (Throwback Photo) by budaatum: 10:11pm On Apr 22, 2019
akinblog:
‘They had to pick me, but I insisted on making one or two contacts first which they refused, but I stood my ground even telling them that they could carry me, rough-handle me and injure me before I could follow them’. - One of my many detention experiences when Gani stood by me!

https://www.everyvibes.com.ng/2019/04/Epic-Throwback-Photo-Of-Festus-Keyamo-Inside-Prison.html
Was this THE MACABRE CIRCUS OF KEYAMO'S ARREST?

About but unrelated,
Re-Your Troubling Silence-Festus Keyamo Responds
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum:
Maximus69:
EXACTLY Ma, but the only mistake in your writeup is including 'JWs' because if you're not a JW,JWs won't worship with you ooooo!
I've met the type. A Guyana woman was being buried in our Church and her JW friends insisted they were going to stand outside. I asked them if they would allow the devil to stop them saying goodbye to their friend and quite a few of them decided not. When they came out at the end some of them came to thank me. They fellowshipped with others in honour of their friend and were touched and I am certain they would never forget the experience.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 9:39pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
@budaatum.
Atheists are also worshipers of that false Jesus who will accept you as long as each person develop his/her own mindset. So instead of agreeing on principles they'll preder arguing for the fun of it.
Take note of human governments, they can argue for months over issues like same sex marriage but there is no regard for God's word on the issue! undecided
That is how Satan wants people to view Jesus as well,so they'll claim born again but different opinion on serious and sensitive issues!
So real Jesus is not like that, he said whatever his followers bind or loosen on earth will be granted just like that in heaven. Don't think each person will start binding independently on his/her own in Jesus name!
This means they must be united in thoughts before they can do such in the name of their King Jesus!
The Holy Spirit takes different forms in different people. We cannot all have the same thoughts unless we have been brainwashed or refuse to use our God given minds. Read me have this out with Tatime where he dented my atheism and gave me his mind, or what of it was worth receiving.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 9:27pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm,
Well Jesus is just one person whose thoughts, words and actions should be studied with thorough meditation in order to identify those following his footstep today!
If you feel you can be in agreement with Jesus but can't find a visible group of like minded people having the same mindset, then you're just following the false Jesus who leads people into lawlessness or iniquity!
Lawlessness connotes doing things the way each person feels without laws guarding or ruling over a group of persons or community!
Jesus is a King, he is invisible but his subjects are VISIBLE. They are known today as Jehovah's Witnesses so if you're not with them, Jesus will count you out of his OBEDIENT and LAWFUL subjects! Matthew 7:21-23
I am blessed, Maximus69, with numerous close relatives whom I visibly fellowship with constantly. A whole town even, interior Yorubaland, Muslims, pagans, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, JWs, etc, in my immediate families and the town as a whole whom I constantly worship with. Lots of friends too, and I can assure you that the fact that they worship the Lord God and He alone is grace. One never knows if through ones worship those who don't say, "buda, who is your God, let us worship with you". Besides, they are my neighbours, family, friends, co-workers even, whom, despite their gods, I must love as much as I love myself.

The "lawlessness or iniquity" burn in hell. Those with Christ dwell in the Tabernacle of the Lord.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 8:36pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
Well, they've been coping for ages now and those who truly know them joined them to become members of the global spiritual family, others remained neutral just to cope with their dos and donts and vast majority have developed intense hatred for them due to their stand.
But Jehovah's Witnesses will always live by the code set by their founder who said 'if you're not in agreement with me regarding mindset, you're definitely not a member of my SPIRITUAL family!' Matthew 12:47-50 wink
In agreement with Jesus Christ, and not "in agreement with JW". Or is that not true?
Christianity Etc › Re: Alert! Inter-faith Worship Is Coming. Do Not Compromise Your Salvation. by budaatum: 8:34pm On Apr 22, 2019
solite3:
interfaith is incompactable with christianity. Light does not mix with darkness.

Jesus said He is the way to the father meaning faith in Jesus alone is what one need to access the father. that is why Christians pray in the name of Jesus. Other religion obviously leads to death.


2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
They are my neighbours! I must love them surely?
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
Well it's like there is still so much for you to learn about JWs Ma!
When you see people face to face in your neighbourhood, they may choose to greet or ignore you but JWs always try to do all within their capacity to get closer to you IN OTHER TO PASS ACROSS THEIR BELIEFS!
If they notice that you're friendly, they'll continue to get closer, if you often discuss with them, study the Bible with them and attend their meetings, they'll be getting ever closer.
But once they find out you're not interested in THEIR God, the friendship will gradually cool off! You can be their neighbour, classmate, colleague, boss, worker and so on. You'll always notice the good in them but if you're not ready to join the group, they can't get further closer than that! No praying nor marriage alliance with you, neither can you become their inlaw!
But no matter where you come from on this planet, if you're worshiping with the JWs automatically you've become a member of their global spiritual family! smiley
You've not met Tatime face to face therefore you don't really know him neither do you know any of those JWs living next to you. We greet virtually anybody in our neighbourhood with warm smiles but when it comes to sacred matters, you either join us to become a member of our spiritual family or it's time to say goodbye for now! smiley
Thank God it is God I am curious about and follow and not Tatime. I wonder how such people get on in life with their "follow me or be condemned" attitude.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 6:20pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm, that's worth commending!
But he is now telling you that if you don't resolve in your heart to join the organization that is teaching him, you can't worship his own God!
If i were you, i'll be willing to learn more about that God or forget about Tatime completely!
Tatime is not really my issue. What's of importance is what he says on a public forum and the validity he shows for it. A group of people who thought they were the anointed of God have existed in the past so we ought to learn from such errors and not go about teaching them to others even if we believed so. Besides, the very nice JWs who live across the hall from me do not take to this attitude of Tatime's, so it does surprise me. It definitely will surprise me if they thought like Tatime but behaved like angels. I'd find that impossible, they are that nice.

I worship the God depicted in my Bible. There is no other God but God!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 6:01pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
Hmmm Tatime, don't tell me you have so much affection for this person! undecided
It's obvious from your write~up that you like him so much, but he doesn't know that there is time for everything.
Well he said he found nothing special about you or your comments so i guess that's why you must say goodbye, there is no reason being friends if he not one of us! grin
I never said I found nothing special about Tatime, Maximus69, please do not let satan use you! Tatime is very well known for the Tatime Test, and in fact, in helping me resolve my atheist tendencies!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 5:54pm On Apr 22, 2019
TATIME:
Well that's the stand of all the members of our global family. If you're not with us, you're not a worshiper of our God!
Goodbye budaatum, from now don't expect further response from me! smiley smiley smiley
Goodbye, for now, Tatime.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 5:53pm On Apr 22, 2019
TATIME:
Sorry budaatum, our own Shepherd is 'He' not 'it'.
Of course He knows His sheep, His sheep knows His voice and they know where to gather with the other sheep belonging to their owner! John 10:27 compared with Luke 17:37
Don't worry budaatum, if you're not with our group you can't possibly be a worshiper of our own God!
I know it will surely surprise you that Tatime is saying these, but that's the TRUTH. You either become one of Jehovah's witnesses to become a worshiper of my own God or go elsewhere worshiping another God!
You know it is a surprise, Tatime, that's why I'm delving! You're effectively saying "those who don't worship your God are worshipping satan", which rather does explain the antagonism against your group! Thank God that the Almighty God appears to have not sent that memo to all the rest of us because Christ is risen. He is risen indeed!

Happy Easter everyone. His Spirit reigns!
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by budaatum: 5:43pm On Apr 22, 2019
TATIME:
You need not ask any further questions budaatum!
I know you've followed my post several times on NL and you've commended my reasonableness but now is the time to say goodbye!
That said. You know very well any goodbye is goodbye for now, for I'm certain neither of us intends to jump off the face of the earth yet.

TATIME:
If you think people from divers religious groups can also possess divine wisdom the same way you've noticed in me, then go and worship with them.
To begin with Tatime, I cannot honestly say that I have noticed "divine wisdom" in you. I'm only saying because you seem to be under the impression that I have. It might be that I don't quite know what you mean by "divine wisdom", but I have met many wise people in my very short lifetime, many who have been a lot much wiser than you and can't say any of them were from your group. That's not to say there's no wise amongst you, just that I have not met any amongst your group despite having met quite a few wise people, and members of your group..

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