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Christianity Etc › Re: The Lies Of The Garden Of Eden - A Logical View by budaatum: 12:10am On Jan 15, 2019
I wrote a A Child's View in opposition to your logical view because I really don't see any reason to get the view you suggest from the book.


Akin1212:
Simple questions require simple answers. Logical questions require logical answers. If you're going to do this, don't clog this thread with bible verses or verses from the quran. This logic is very straightforward.


Before Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree, they didn't know anything called evil, we can as well say they didn't know good too. They were just zombies.

The instruction given to them by God was that, if they eat from the tree, they will acquire the knowledge of good and evil, in other words, they will know what is bad and also know what is good and that they will die. They didn't even know that death is bad neither did they know that disobedience is bad, since they had not eaten from the tree.

Now, how were they supposed to process that death or disobedience were bad things and make the decision on something they had no knowledge of?
If you bring up the excuse that Satan deceived them, then how were they supposed to know that Satan was deceiving them, were they warned to beware of Satan?

If you have freewill, you must have knowledge of good and evil before you can process deceit, do good or do evil. You cannot commit sin if you don't have the knowledge of good and evil. So where did the concept of the original sin come from? Did they commit the sin before having the knowledge of good and evil? It does not add up.

Theists, think deeply for once in your lives.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Garden Of Eden - A Child's View by budaatum(op): 11:54pm On Jan 14, 2019
On the Chase, I read He Won't Read It Now, his first book, over the weekend and plan to read his second, No Orchids this one. First in over 40 years but still see what I loved in them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 11:32pm On Jan 14, 2019
LordReed:
À ń pe gbẹ́nàgbẹ́nà ẹyẹ àkókó ń yọjú
Che! Slaughtered every corner he sticks his head out of!
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 11:30pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
By carefully observing SPEECHES, EXPRESSIONS and WORSHIPS of intelligent creatures in my neighborhood! wink wink wink
Tell me the names of the areas your neighbourhood has been in.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope: The Theories Of Evolution And Big Bang Are Real, God Not A Magician by budaatum: 11:29pm On Jan 14, 2019
Ubenedictus:
How does that dispute intelligent design, infact he implied intelligent design that a creator was behind it all.
I dont know if the writer is ignorant or malicious but many catholics do hold both the big bang, theistic evolution and naturally intelligent design. The church has long ruled that neither the bang nor evolution disputes christian theology rightly understood.
There are very many out there who rule that the bang and evolution disputes Christian theology rightly understood. And i never said it disputed intelligent design.

The Pope did indeed imply an intelligent designer. It is still a huge step forward all the same, theistically speaking, and the Pope spoke to all. Or at least, everybody heard it.
Christianity Etc › The Garden Of Eden - A Child's View by budaatum(op):
God, having created the entire universe, decides to create man, but only after creating a garden. God teaches these people to take care of his farm for food and shelter but of the Godsfruit, they must not touch or he'll kill them! And your's truly they do. So God gets the funk, and sacks them, "escort them off the premises please and don't come back!"

"Hey, hold on, you said they'd die!" I say. I go back to where it's said, point at it. "See", " they'd die". But of course it's words in a book. It's not as if a "ah, ok, I'll just kill them" was going to pop on to the page with the words rearranged though it was worth considering considering how folks about me treated the book.

The copy I was reading was an immaculate white one ma got given when she'd married which I'd stolen from where she keeps emergency money and jewelry. It was wrapped in velvet, placed in a box, wrapped in a cloth, locked in a suitcase in a locked cupboard in her locked bedroom when I took it. A book thief was bad. Then a money thief had taken the money that had been there when I stole her Bible and she was yelling all over the place. Stole the Bible, stole the money, I is dead! To a lot of others at the time, it was treated equally valuable, the whole family could have the one, unlike now when everyone's got one or so many and all the others on their phone.

I look up and see there's always gods, Even if there aren't gods there'll always be controllers - cause that's what a god who keeps the godfruits to itself is. And those controllers want to keep all the godfruit to themselves and pay everyone else just food and board because by keeping them subservient they can better exploit them.

I look further and find it is not as I thought it was, the gods were not paying food and board, the bloody gods were in fact taking the sweat off people's brows. And then I find they use to even put chains round their necks sell people for slave work! It's then I understand what is meant when some say God wrote the Bible.

Many who have had that understanding got it from the Bible, and if someone hadn't written what God did in the Garden of Eden, I wouldn't have eyes wide enough to get that understanding. I had read the New Testament prior to starting the old thanks to Gideons who made it widely available, so it helped some of it fall in place. Depends how you read it, is my point. Many get to hear meanings of the story before they've read it and by such, a way of seeing it is imposed. If you read it as a child would read it, as was advised, you might have seen it in a different way too.

Controllers don't pay food and board anymore. Now you pay their food and board, Gucci shoes, Armani suits and jet fuel willingly too! Exploitation by exploiters has drastically changed for the worst.

I get to the fourth chapter, and Cain murders Abel, and I'm thinking, when did all this happen, I'm on to a good one here, and that's when I began reading the Bible aged 8. For the next 5 years, it was my go back to book whenever I was out of James Hadley Chase or anything else till I'd finished it. I never would have read it if I hadn't read it then.

Do you remember what you first thought when you first read the creation myth in Genesis?
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 9:55pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
Humans aren't comfortable in isolation,because we like relating with other intelligent beings of our choice so 90% of us are proud to tell others about our role model while the remaining 10% are either shy or still searching for the perfect model of their choice! wink wink wink
It's only the insane that are carefree in this regard! cheesy cheesy cheesy
How do you know this?
Christianity Etc › I Am Taking Up Religion. by budaatum(op):
Let me first say that this is going to be a work in public. The thread title might change, even this very post may be continously revised. The beauty is the version you quote will be uniquely stamped with your name on it, hint!

Saturday, I bought the book in the first picture. I already got one, but found this in a charity shop for £3 and couldn't resist and started reading the introduction when I got it home. it excludes 1 and 2 Esdras (3 and 4) and the Prayer of Manasseh, which irked me, so I went looking and found the book in the third picture (subsequent post). It was recommended to Dylan by the Door to door salesman. Dylan read it in January 2009 and said this:

"This book was terrible. The characters are two dimensional, the plot is all over the place and the author can't keep his story straight. Then halfway through they just introduce a new protagonist out of nowhere who dies within 4 chapters and they spend the rest of the book trying to work out what his deal was.

Genesis and Numbers are a huge yawn fest, I'm not even sure what the lengthy genealogies and census information had to do with the fisherman because everybody dies in the end anyway.

This book is huge. Oh my god, it's soo long. I thought Lord of the Rings was big. The only consolation is that it's so big and heavy my wife sometimes uses it to press flowers, which is fine by me because I wouldn't lend this book to anyone.


This is it's small print
Table of Contents
Introduction to the Pentateuch: Marc Z. Brettler
Introductions and Annotations
Genesis: David Carr
Exodus: Carol Meyers
Leviticus: Jeffrey Stackert
Numbers: Thomas B. Dozeman
Deuteronomy: Bernard M. Levinson
Introduction to the Historical Books: Marc Z. Brettler
Introductions and Annotations
Joshua: K. Lawson Younger, Jr.
Judges: Gregory Mobley
Ruth: Yair Zakovitch
1, 2 Samuel: Steven L. McKenzie
1, 2 Kings: Thomas Römer
1, 2 Chronicles: Gary N. Knoppers
Ezra, Nehemiah: Tamara Cohn Eskenazi
Esther: Mary Joan Winn Leith
Introduction to the Poetical and Wisdom Books: Marc Z. Brettler
Introductions and Annotations
Job: David J. A. Clines
Psalms: Richard J. Clifford
Proverbs: Christine Roy Yoder
Ecclesiastes: Davis Hankins and Brennan W. Breed
Song of Solomon: J. Cheryl Exum
Introduction to the Prophetic Books: Julia M. O'Brien
Isaiah: Marvin A. Sweeney
Jeremiah: Louis Stulman
Lamentations: Adele Berlin
Ezekiel: Stephen L. Cook
Daniel: Amy C. Merrill Willis
Hosea, Amos, Micah: Gregory Mobley
Joel, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi: David L. Petersen
Obadiah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah: Julia M. O'Brien
Jonah: Yair Zakovitch
Introduction to the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical Books: Carol A. Newsom
Introductions and Annotations
Tobit: Amy-Jill Levine
Judith: Lawrence M. Wills
Esther (Greek): Mary Joan Winn Leith
Wisdom of Solomon: Michael Kolarcik
Sirach: Benjamin G. Wright
Baruch, Letter of Jeremiah: Matthew Goff
Add Daniel (Azariah, Song of Three, Susanna, Bel): Amy C. Merrill Willis
1 Maccabees: John R. Bartlett
2 Maccabees: Daniel R. Schwartz
1 Esdras: Tamara Cohn Eskenazi
Prayer of Manasseh: David Lambert
Psalm 151: Judith H. Newman
3 Maccabees: John J. Collins
2 Esdras: Theodore A. Bergren
4 Maccabees: David A. de Silva
Introduction to the Gospels: Pheme Perkins
Introductions and Annotations
Matthew: J. R. C. Cousland
Mark: Suzanne Watts Henderson
Luke: Marion L. Soards
John: Colleen Conway
Acts: Christopher R. Matthews
Introduction to Letters/Epistles in the New Testament: Pheme Perkins
Introductions and Annotations
Romans: Ann Jervis
1 Corinthians: Laurence L. Welborn
2 Corinthians: Alexandra R. Brown
Galatians: Emma Wasserman
Ephesians, Colossians: Jennifer K. Berenson
Philippians: Carolyn Osiek
1,2 Thessalonians: Richard S. Ascough
The Pastoral Epistles, 1,2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon: Margaret M. Mitchell
Hebrews: David A. de Silva
James: Timothy B. Cargal
1 Peter: M. Eugene Boring
2 Peter, Jude: Terrance Callan
1,2,3 John: Pheme Perkins
Revelation: Jean-Pierre Ruiz
General Essays, Tables, Glossary, Index
General Essays
The Canons of the Bible: Marc Z. Brettler and Pheme Perkins
Textual Criticism: Michael D. Coogan and Pheme Perkins
The Languages of the Bible: Sidnie White Crawford
Translation of the Bible into English: Michael D. Coogan and Pheme Perkins
Interpretation
The Hebrew Bible's Interpretation of Itself: Marc Z. Brettler
The New Testament Interprets the Jewish Scriptures: Pheme Perkins
Jewish Interpretation in the Premodern Era: Marc Z. Brettler
Christian Interpretation in the Premodern Era: Carol A. Newsom
The Interpretation of the Bible: From the Nineteenth to the Mid-Twentieth Centuries: Michael D. Coogan
Contemporary Methods in Biblical Study: Carol A. Newsom
The Geography of the Bible: Michael D. Coogan
Cultural Contexts
The Ancient Near East: Michael D. Coogan
The Persian and Hellenistic Periods: Carol A. Newsom
The Roman Period: Pheme Perkins
Tables
Timeline
Chronological Table of Rulers
Weights and Measures
Time [includes Calendar]
Parallel Texts [now including parallels from the Gospel of John]
Translations of Ancient Texts
Glossary
Index to the Study Materials


I'm going to religiously turn page it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 9:33pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
There is NO mind that's absolutely free from control, it only depends on the likes,dislikes, hobbies and motivations in the heart of every intelligent being!
People do choose role models and they'll wish they're a perfect replica of their chosen models,it's only common amongst the insanes that you'll find it difficult to RECOGNISE the other person controlling their minds,but as regards the sane ones their is someone somewhere controlling their minds,some do feel proud to mention such person publicly and others do pretend!
As for TRUE Christians our minds are controlled by all the thoughts, words and actions we read about Jesus of Nazareth!
How do you know this Tatime? How do you know that "there is NO mind that's absolutely free from control"?
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jan 14, 2019
LordReed:
I doubt there is any major religious sect that hasn't had schism. JWs had a big one when CR Taze died and when some of their prophecies failed to come to pass. Now they are very careful of giving dates so the so called prophecies are always in perpetuity. This "hunt" TATIME is talking about will probably not be given a date so that they can either claim it is yet to happen or it happened in the spiritual realm like they retconned some of their failed prophecies. LMFAO!

TATIME is a #humblebrag -er. He loves to humbly show off how special he is. LMFAO!
Tatime, read about Charles Taze Russell. He owned a publishing firm that sold tracts, social media of his day.
Christianity Etc › Re: Preaching And Teaching For Christ, Not On Social Media! by budaatum: 6:18pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
So while it is appropriate for groups like Atheists and others to remain faceless Christians have NO reason whatsoever to hide our faces because we are the light of the world a city built on the hilltop cannot be hidden!
Shining light
Not hidden

Open your eyes and see!
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope: The Theories Of Evolution And Big Bang Are Real, God Not A Magician by budaatum: 5:30pm On Jan 14, 2019
Aaronsrod:
This lying Pope must be humbled.

He is a servant of Satan!

The time has surely come for him to meet his Master!!
You boko haram!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:25pm On Jan 14, 2019
Noticed it had gone quiet. Trump has managed to keep his foot out his mouth? shocked shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 4:52pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
EXCELLENT! Please my score. huh huh
That was homework. And you submitted it late! The score comes at the end of the test. Remind me.

This is question 1a,

If the mind is not controlled, how does it function?
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 4:45pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
It sounds unimaginably stupid right? Well that's what FAITH can mean for you,we read about many strange things that sounds impossible in the Bible but when we're seeing it happening gradually we tremble before the author of the Bible! so when it does happens as in for REAL what will you do? cheesy cheesy cheesy
I rejoiced that I had the eyes to see it, the intellect to comprehend it and I became absolutely honest with myself.

Tatime, tell me again, what do you do?
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 4:32pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
Atheism i've defined several times but you've not scored me any marks. I'll do it again "it's simply the faculty that abhors the habit of mind controlling" period! wink wink wink
At last. Thank you. Just so I'm ensured I get you right. If I do not like my mind controlled, I am an atheist. Is that correct?
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 4:29pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
When that time comes,just remember Tatime and if you feel like rendering your conscience dead it's OK. But you will remember i told you,when people you've recruited for ATHEISM start hunting for PEACE LOVING and DEFENSELESS JWs! wink wink wink
Lord, I wonder if there's any record of schizoidism amongsts JWs, it might explain Tatime with his "the atheists are coming to get me". As of 2018, [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses?wprov=sfla1]Jehovah's Witnesses[/url] reported a monthly average membership of approximately 8.36 million actively involved in preaching, with a peak of 8.58 million, 0.001 of the population of the earth! I wonder why Ta thinks he's so important atheist will leave the millions of other like them people and focus on just him. Might it be a very inflated sense of his self or just a dead conscience? The "PEACE LOVING" are blessed, they are never hunted unless one's God is a dead God!

Tatime spirit and conscience, you are got already. Speak only truth!
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 3:55pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
The HUNTING is the last sign that will occur before Jesus comes to avenge the blood of His friends, before then let's get to work,you keep recruiting more soldiers for ATHEISM while i keep recruiting more soldiers for Christ. Since you don't buy the spirit thing you'll think of physical weapons (to kill the body) but we will rely on spiritual weapons to capture souls!
How did you conclude that it is you that is recruiting people for Christ? It is you that is recruiting to atheism! Or have you discarded your own definition of atheist which I've asked you to post twice you never bothered, Tatime, tell the truth and let Satan die, has buda touched your body and not your Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:03pm On Jan 14, 2019
LordReed:
Budaatum, what do you think of George Carlin? His humor was inaccessible to me cos of my previous beliefs but now that shït is knocking my socks off. LMFAO!
Never heard of him, but now that you have educated me, I will study him and forever be immensely grateful to you my Lord.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 2:16pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
It's a confirmed PROPHECY in God's word but JWs will remain by then and all of you (including those whose religion you've extinguished) will start hunting for JWs. Behold i've told you! wink wink wink
Prophecies are not confirmed until they come to pass, and until that time, you're just scaremongering. It may work on silly kids, but we are all grown up here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 2:13pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
TRUTH from who!? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Is it the TRUTH that's based on whatever you think as well as whatever someone in another place assumed? wink wink wink
Here's a test for you. Please answer the 2 questions above.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 2:08pm On Jan 14, 2019
Dantedasz:
That they should kill unbelievers on behalf of their God(s) and then turn around and proclaim their religion as peaceful and their God(s)as loving.
AND I MEAN ALL RELIGIONS WITHOUT EXCEPTION.
All religious beliefs are dangerous to a non believer.
Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 2:06pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
Atheism will soon send religion as a whole to extinct.
In the mighty name of God the Father, by the Wisdom of Jesus the Son, and by the Holy Ghost which is the mind and the brains, Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 2:02pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
Oh this is becoming more and more interesting!
So you want to teach me what Jesus meant by His statements. cheesy cheesy
No time, I do not want to teach you anything. If you already are an adult and you know, why will I ask you to enter back into the womb and be reborn? A couple of things though which I can't resist.

Praying, means working. To baptise, is to immerse in the fullest understanding. And Jesus counts everybody as something, even the lost sheep for which he leaves the unlost sheep to go and find. It is for this reason that buda will continue to baptise you Ta, until you are fully immersed and unlost.
Politics › Re: Constitution Says Erring Judges Must Be Investigated By NJC Only — Afe Babalola by budaatum: 1:46pm On Jan 14, 2019
Shikini:
Abiodun Nejo, Ado Ekiti

Legal luminary, Chief Afe Babalola (SAN), has described the proposed trial on Monday of the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Justice Walter Onnoghen, at the Code of Conduct Tribunal over alleged failure to fully declare his assets as “denigration of the country’s Judiciary and Constitution.”


He also noted the constitutional provision which stipulates that any infraction by judges must first be investigated and then resolved by the National Judicial Council, “to the exclusion of any other body or authority.”

Babalola, in a statement on Sunday entitled, Proposed arraignment of the Hon Justice Walter Onnoghen: Again, I say two wrongs do not make a right, said the law had made clear the processes for the trial of judicial officers and as well their removal, hence the need to desist from “contempt and denigration of the judiciary.”

He said: “I am of the view that the Constitution requires that any infraction by the said judges be firstly investigated and resolved by the National Judicial Council, to the exclusion of any other body or authority.”

Babalola, who stated that the decision of the Court of Appeal in Nganjiwa v Federal Republic of Nigeria (2017) LPELR-43391(CA) “still subsists and has not been set aside,” said: “I therefore see no justification for the decision to arraign the CJN before the CCT.”

Continuing, he argued, “Again, the point must be made clear that the Constitution clearly provides for the procedure with which the CJN can be removed from office.

“Section 292 (1)(a)(i) and 292 (1)(b) of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (As Amended) addressed it.”

According to him, given the clear provisions for trial and removal of judges, “It becomes more worrying to learn that, aside from laying the proposed charges, the prosecution has also filed an application for an order directing the CJN to recuse himself from office pending the conclusion of the trial.”

The senior advocate said: “By proceeding as proposed, the government is unwittingly or, perhaps, deliberately, creating a wrong impression in the minds of millions of Nigerians that the Judiciary is a criminal organisation.

“For the sake of our democracy, this is a misconception that must not be allowed to fester.

“No country, no matter how well intentioned its political leaders are, can aspire to greatness if its judicial arm is denigrated and held in contempt.

“While the Judiciary itself must be awake to its huge responsibilities, its efforts in this regard will surely not be helped by the erosion of its independence,” the SAN stated.


https://punchng.com/onnoghen-constitution-says-erring-judges-must-be-investigated-by-njc-only-afe-babalola/
Is our highly esteemed Afe Babalola San, correct in his summation?

Section 292 (1)(a)(i) and 292 (1)(b) of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (As Amended)

292. (1) A judicial officer shall not be removed from his office or appointment before his age of retirement except in the following circumstances -

(a) in the case of -

(i) Chief Justice of Nigeria, President of the Court of Appeal, Chief Judge of the Federal High Court, Chief Judge of the High Court of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, Grand Kadi of the Sharia Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja and President, Customary Court of Appeal of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja, by the President acting on an address supported by two-thirds majority of the Senate.

(ii) Chief Judge of a State, Grand Kadi of a Sharia Court of Appeal or President of a Customary Court of Appeal of a State, by the Governor acting on an address supported by two-thirds majority of the House of Assembly of the State,

Praying that he be so removed for his inability to discharge the functions of his office or appointment (whether arising from infirmity of mind or of body) or for misconduct or contravention of the Code of Conduct;

(b) in any case, other than those to which paragraph (a) of this subsection applies, by the President or, as the case may be, the Governor acting on the recommendation of the National Judicial Council that the judicial officer be so removed for his inability to discharge the functions of his office or appointment (whether arising from infirmity of mind or of body) or for misconduct or contravention of the Code of Conduct.

(2) Any person who has held office as a judicial officer shall not on ceasing to be a judicial officer for any reason whatsoever thereafter appear or act as a legal practitioner before any court of law or tribunal in Nigeria.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 1:32pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm that's why i keep saying that you budaatum is not far away from me in SPIRIT my brother. I never call anyone BROTHER apart from JWs but i'm beginning to see you as one of us now!
If I told you what is happening to you here, Tatime! You better not let people see it!

TATIME:
Please what will you do if you later find out that your folks starts hunting for JWs huh huh
I don't have "your folks", Tatime. My folks are my neighbours. Please go remind yourself who that is.

TATIME:
Well that's the last PROPHECY to be fulfilled!
Jesus said your folks will gather themselves as one and start hunting for JWs all around the globe! Note that it wouldn't make any sense to an intellectual if Jesus had said your folks will be hunting for other believers since they do carry weapons to avenge or protect themselves,and some sort of events could lead to strife between religious people and atheists. But that your folks will be hunting for JWs who are PEACEFUL and DEFENSELESS! wink wink wink
I can guarantee two things. One is, someone told you this crap and even showed you verses to validate what they told you. The second is anyone who believes the above is not following what Christ taught.

For instance, he said, "don't go looking for the endtimes all over the place because no one knows when the time will end", so claiming the end is after a particular event is a fabricated lie told to scare people so that they can be controlled.

Jesus never said JWs would be hunted! JWs are not that important so I don't see why anyone would hunt them, and saying so only makes sense to people who refuse to use their brain. Besides, if JWs had Christ, they would fear not for their father in heaven who also cares for the birds and the bees will not foresake them if they were hunted.

TATIME:
I'm sure if this happens before we expire, you'll start looking for me or other JWs to study and know how we're able to foresee this through the book that majority of earth's inhabitants possess yet they can't find all these inside it.
O! So I will not hunt you anymore all of a sudden, but will now be looking for you to study and know you instead?

Tatime, I love you. It is for that reason that I will enlighten you. In every post in our detailed discussions, I have studied you, and from that study, I now know you just as you know me. I hope I need not say there is no more need to look for you since you are not lost.

TATIME:
Well it's because the interpretation as in understanding belongs ONLY to JWs! wink wink wink
You are lying to yourself to convince yourself that what you believe is true Tatime and it is not a healthy thing to do.

Every believer knows that understanding comes from God and God does not only give it to JWs! Or does JWs actually stand for the Jews, who used to believe the same nonsense until God sent Jesus to replace their anointed asses with the Gentiles?

Do know that henceforth you are, time, and sometimes, Ta.
Christianity Etc › Re: Crazy Things That Religious People Believe - Add Yours by budaatum: 12:55pm On Jan 14, 2019
TATIME:
budaatum! budaatum!!
I just love that spirit that's giving you this ability to think deeper than the others and i mean it you're not far from me in spirit it's just that we're from different schools of thought!
I worship Appolos and you worship Paul. "Does it matter if he is not one of us?"

TATIME:
So let's go now.
*BLOOD ~ There are three ways by which we can relate as a family. (1)Business: if we're doing the same business as partners (without betrayal) it will bind us together and others will find it difficult to know our secret,so we'll become BROTHERS.(2)Blood: if we're born into the same family or race,we will be firmly attached to one another as if we don't want to know others. (3)Faith:if we believe the same thing as in having the same mindset, we'll become brothers since most things could be achieved when we're united in spirit. This is what Jesus said that it surpasses the first two (business and blood). So to Jesus those who gets baptized in WATER to become His brothers in faith are much more important to Him even than Mary through whose blood Jesus was born! Therefore to Jesus the baptisimal WATER is THICKER than BLOOD! Matthew 12:46-50
This is rubbish! Jesus did not give a damn whether you were baptised or not, he had absolutely no time for such nonsense. He said, "whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” And not "whoever is baptised by water that is thicker than blood"!

Stop crucifying Jesus again, Tatime!

TATIME:
POLITICS ~ Humans everywhere believe that when someone that's kind at heart becomes their leader, things will work fine. That's the opportunity America is giving the whole world today,we have the right to choose who should lead us. John 6:15
No, not true! Humans do not necessarily believe that "when someone that's kind at heart becomes their leader, things will work fine", or at the very least, Jesus did not teach that "when someone that's kind at heart becomes their leader, things will work fine".

Jesus taught, "you are the salt of the earth, so go out there and lead"! And what America has done is level the field so everyone has a opportunity.

TATIME:
But Jesus taught us that it's not so because God is the ONLY good person(Luke 18:28,19)therefore it's ONLY God that should rule mankind.
Excuse me, but did God not decide the work was too much for God, so, "Solomon, go and get Saul to assist me" ?

TATIME:
That's why TRUE Christians won't participate in politics! wink wink wink
I strongly believe you are wrong. If true Christians do not participate in politics, they are not taking care of the poor, so they can't be "true Christians", since they would be allowing Satan to rule unchallenged!

Politics is how the rulers are chosen, and the chosen, govern by taking our resources through taxation and utilise it on our behalf. If left to themselves, politicians will take those resources and buy houses in Dubai. But if those steeped in the knowledge of God are govern, they will be compelled to govern according to the diktat of God and could build Jerusalem for the people who's money they take.

TATIME:
Once again i'll say thanks budaatum for puling my legs further, it's fun poking me to see if there is true wisdom in what my SCHOOL taught me!
I am not pulling your legs Tatime, please speak the truth. You and I know that it is your mind that is being pulled.

As for my marks. I've decided you are not sufficiently qualified to mark my work.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 11:58am On Jan 14, 2019
9inches:
Hmm... such leap of faith. Why do you believe that you will wake up tomorrow? Do you know that for certain? You probably have more faith than I do.
Probably.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 11:57am On Jan 14, 2019
HellVictorinho:
C'mon.
Your waking up today as a probability was far greater than the probability of you not waking up.
I can imagine 80-90% for the former outcome and 10-20% for the latter.
Note:you were active throughout yesterday(at least online)and you never suggested health-related fears.
In fact, the probability that I'd of woken up today is probably 99.999%, I wake up everyday, so why would tomorrow be any different.

It is certain that any night I go to sleep, I will wake up the next day. And the only day I will not wake up is the day before the day I will not go to sleep again.

And I say that with 99.999% faith that it will be so.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 11:50am On Jan 14, 2019
9inches:
Good morning. Lucky you! That's great. Keep believing, we can't live the world without belief.
9! Did I say that, or can you just not live life honestly and without making up untruths?

Anyway, last night, I believed we will all wake up this morning, and I now believe we all did. Unless you know of one of us who is still asleep.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 8:34am On Jan 14, 2019
9inches:
Hmm... such leap of faith. Why do you believe that you will wake up tomorrow? Do you know that for certain? You probably have more faith than I do.
Good morning 9. It's this morning. I'm awake just like I believed I would. Certainly!
Politics › Re: Photos: Truck Carrying Apc-branded Bags Of Rice Crushes Dozens To Death by budaatum: 1:05am On Jan 14, 2019
intruxive:
angry
op, why display your foolishness publicly
Is labana rice the new APC logo angry
Foolish ipob
undecided cry undecided

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