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BiafraAburi:
Every Biafran should take note and make sure to stay inside through out the 2 weeks sit at home because these terrorists must definitely be on rampage on those two weeks to kill and maim our people to tarnish the image of Simon Ekpa.

Are you suggesting we sit in fear at home instead of confronting terrorists?

And how do you not expect "the image of Simon Ekpa to be tarnished" when the terrorists on rampage are killing and maiming our people who don't obey Simon Ekpa's sit at home order?

funshint:
But why will he be asked why he hates Nigeria? Labanon is not doing any better at the moment too.

He should hate his parents more for not teaching him about his mommy's state and anything about his daddy's country.

AsomughaChuks05:
This is cowardice on display. A whole Enugu state are protesting because of one Ebonyi man in faraway Finland.

They are actually protesting against the ipob unknown gunmen enforcing Monday sit at home in their own community.

SmartPolician:
Simon Ekpa must have a lot of guts to stay abroad and issue a two-week sit-at-home order in the East.

Those who decided to abandon their own reasoning and follow Simon Ekpa's guts must have had no guts of their own.

I'm glad some have found their own guts. I now hope the Biafrian Nigerians would find guts too so my Oduduwa Republicans can shut up!

Freeze007:
Wisdom is to understand purpose by asking, knocking and seeking then one can go through the process to acquire it....For example I hope to be as wise as Budatum, if my question is right that wisdom can be gotten from him then it is the wisest decision to learn more wisdom...The recondite wisdom of Father is my earnest desires

Hello Freeze.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, God is the one who pours out his favor/kindness on all mankind daily, even on the wicked and on the ungrateful meaning that one doesn't even need to say a single prayer in order for God to reveal His kindness to them. Athiests, unbelievers, Satan worshipers, religious folks ....everyone enjoys God's kindness every day so it can't be Satan giving anything.

This was precisely my point, Kobojunkie. I wouldn't put it more precise, except add, if gods exist and are responsible for the "favor/kindness on all mankind daily".

My thinking is we humans don't actually know, and just fill the gap in our knowledge with God. Hence my love of Christ who is written to have taught “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened", especially if that sought is Wisdom, as in the proper understanding of the knowledge that leads to it such as that which made Solomon make the better request.

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Stage 21

feedthenation:
Kyle Rittenhouse utterly humiliated after his Big 2A (2nd Amendment) event has almost few people showed up

It's not easy to sell "shot three killed 2 and got away with it". Most would rather stay at home even if it were liberals who got killed.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/03/kyle-rittenhouse-maga-social-media-star-that-wasnt/

Maynman:
There were referring to biblical editors for making sure they made the difference clear.
It’s as though the Biblical editor wishes to make it absolutely clear that both men and women are a simultaneous and equal product of God’s Divine creation of humankind

This will be true about Genesis 1. But I would not say it applies to Genesis 2 where Adam and Eve do not seem to be equal to each other. Jewish tradition and culture has in fact emphasised that lack of "equality".

Genesis 2 human does definitely not seem equal to Genesis 1 human to me.

“Blessed are you for not having made me a gentile” and “Blessed are you for not having made me a slave. Blessed are You, Hashem our G-d, King of the universe, for not having made me a woman.”
https://torah.org/learning/women-class31/

Maynman:
The elohim might just be human beings too.

I can live with this since a human being who is lord of hundreds of hectares and thousands of Adam's might be considered an elohim. Some see Elon Musk and Bezos and Gates and Soros as elohims too.

Maynman:
What i wanted to point out was the male and female line.
And the Gods created adam (humankind) in their image, in the image of Gods created; male and female created them.
The insertion of the phrase zachar u'n'kayvah bara otam male and female created them is especially instructive.

Very instructive indeed, as agreed with in part below, and other instructions have and can be gotten from it too.

Genesis 2 is also very instructive also as you are showing, that a story that emphasizes hierarchy and dominance and that has been used to enslave, can also free from oppression and slavery, depending on the character focused on.

The insertion of the phrase zachar u’n’kayvah bara otam – male and female (the Divine) created them – is especially instructive. It’s as though the Biblical editor wishes to make it absolutely clear that both men and women are a simultaneous and equal product of God’s Divine creation of humankind. All of humanity was brought into existence at the same moment. This further emphasizes the importance of the earlier verse “na’aseh adam b’tzalmo, kid’mu’taynu – let us create adam (humankind) in our image, (specifically) in our likeness.” (Gen. 1:26) All humans are to share equally of God’s bounty. Should one believe that this applies only to men, this verse instructs us that God’s goodness and protection extends equally to men and women. Had the story of Creation ended right here, the world would be a very different, and (hopefully) a more just haven for all. However, as stated earlier, the Creation stories in Genesis not only relate a cohesive narrative of the creation of the world, they also seek to answer universal questions about the way in which the world operates. The creation of human beings on the sixth day of creation (Gen. 1:27–28) presents a philosophy for humans to follow. Everyone is equal and should share equally in God’s bounty. Men and women must continue God’s work of human creation by making more humans. Humans are the shepherds of the rest of God’s creation and should be vegetarians (Genesis 1:29.)
https://www.pulpit.org/male-and-female-god-created-them/

Maynman:
The deep sleep i was talking about was in genesis 2:21.

And the word for “god” here is elohim, which means gods, it is a pantheon, the head of the pantheon is El.
That’s why in genesis 1:26, they were discussing let’s make man(humankind) in our image, male and female.

The pantheon consists of male and female gods like queen asheerah.

I accept the deep sleep was in Genesis 2, after Genesis 1 creations who had no deep sleep nor trance.

Is it possible that the Genesis 1 creations was a creation of more pantheon gods while Genesis 2 was the creation of the dumb stupid humans? It's not as if the human man and woman started off with the intelligence and powers we read gods had.

If one thinks of it, Adam and Eve could actually mean 100s of races of people, as I don't see how Gods would have a garden two can maintain when history shows their affection for slaves and considering, "copied plagiarised, edited, sanitised etc etc etc".

Maynman:
The hebrew term there specifically refers to male and female, as in androgynous.

What you posted states that there were "various views", so I think it would be wrong to present the view of one group as if it were the only view possible.

That would be like claiming the view of those who believe Eve caused death is the only possible view, and your view of Wisdom Seeking Philosopher Eve, is, well, hogwash, which it clearly isn't, but is you examining the text to seek the understanding you found by using your own mind.

Maynman:
And the “deep sleep” here doesn’t mean sleep but like a trance.

The creation in God's image was not in a trance I don't think, and couldn't have performed the duty of "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground” if it had been in a trance, I think.

Adam, however, was definitely stupid and dumb enough to have been said to have been in a trance, I agree. Dumb not to know others don't come from its rib for starts, and moreso for allowing itself to be enslaved to believe the brainwashing it receives in a trance without bothering to test if true or not.

Which brings us to the Philosopher Eve and her Serpent, which was likely her own Mind, with which she philosophised and tested for herself if she should believe she would surely die or not.

Maynman:
I said male and female, not man and woman.

Is there (not) a difference between "male and female", and "man" and "woman"?

Both are separately used in the text, you'd find, with perhaps different meanings.

Maynman:
The Hebrew word for image is here is “tselem” which is derived from a shorter Hebrew word, “tzel”, meaning “shadow.”
Genesis 1:27 says, he created man in his own image male and female he created them.
Which will make adam androgynous.

But Adam was not androgynous, I don't think, since the "a man" and "the man" and "a woman" as seen in text below, are very distinctly specifically different to "he created man in his own image male and female he created them".

7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

I am asking because your thread shows a departure from the established 'belief' about Eve and recognition of her virtue, and hoping you'd also see through the likely false understanding that created from mud Adam was the same creation in God's image. I don't understand that they are nor do I see good reason to assume they are.

Maynman:
The Hebrew word for image is here is “tselem” which is derived from a shorter Hebrew word, “tzel”, meaning “shadow.”

Talmudic said they were Golem.

Is there a connection between "tselem", and the "dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life" from which Adam became a living being?

Also consider the instruction both were given. Is it the same instruction or does it differ, and were the rewards the same for both creations?

Your learning about the wisdom seeking Eve freeing stupid ignorant enslaved Adam delights me immensely.

Just one thing would I ask you to consider. Is it understood by you that Adam and Eve are the same creation in Elohim's image?

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

MrBrownJay1:
true....sometimes the driver's amazing skills turn that car into a rocketship.

Guess you'd day that since the Mercs were not the rocketship they were yesterday despite Hamilton's "amazing skills".

Albion was awesome, and we get to see Ricardo's progression. Then there's the Bulls amazing consecutive wins record held by McLaren since 88.

Kobojunkie:
1. I have absolutely no opinion of OP's mother since I never met her before and beyond this thread will probably never remember even OP. I simply judge what OP claims she said against what is written in scripture. And Scripture is quite clear that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous. I asked you earlier if you believe the God whose law is written to have declared this so is a liar, and you came back with a vague response that is not here nor there.

I don't think a God's judgement works the same way your judgement works. I think a God would compensate for the understanding level of the individual before judging and passing sentences on transgressors, as the Judaic God appeared to do in the case of Cain and David and as Jesus did with the thief he was crucified with.

I just can't see a God who asks it's worshippers to turn the other cheek 70 times 70 times not forgiving a few transgressions of its own laws, and a God that does not forgive is a hypocrite.

Kobojunkie:
2. According to OP, his mother is a religious person who lives according to the doctrines and traditions of men — lies — which Jesus Christ proclaimed are against Him aka antiChrist. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ said that all those who cling to religion as hypocrites - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. They follow human traditions and ideas in place of God's actual commandments and teachings. Surely, you understand how that which is against God cannot be said to be of God.

To be a hypocrite, op's mother must know better but do otherwise, and nothing the op has said about his mother has given me any indication that this might be the case.

I actually think op's mother is a human being who lives according to her understandings of the traditions and customs and religions and the culture she lives in, which she must since she and her family must live amongst others in her community. A wise woman who has brought up a healthy minded hardworking individual is what I see here.

As for "God's actual commandments and teachings", humans have argued about this since the beginning of time, which is why there are so many Gods and why even any particular God has different denominations emphasising different understandings of "God's actual commandments and teachings". It's why love your neighbour is second like unto love your God. Like, equally. And despite their different understandings of "God's actual commandments and teachings", which are not as actual, as you seem to think, is my point.

Apart from it being written by individuals with their own understandings of the traditions and customs and religions and the culture in which they lived and wrote in, It evolved, as you might notice, by Christ preaching turn the other cheek as opposed to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, and the current happenings in one of the main churches that brought the book to Nigeria.

No moaning from the Ham today. An apology instead.

Awesome performance by the Bulls. And Norris!

Stage 20

https://www.letour.fr/en/news/2023/stage-20/pogacar-vingegaard-till-the-end/1316396

Maynman:
And the way this thing is going, they keep pushing the bar 😂.

Have you noticed that most new religions come from USA?
Jehovah witness
Mormor
Etc.

Flat earth, UFOs, Dump won, massive debt.

Kobojunkie:
1. Learn to keep your opinions out of these discussions please. Everything I have stated is as written in scripture. Op's mother is one of those who claim to believe scripture is holy meaning she assumes scripture ought to be seen as god over her every action, so your private opinions and claimed experiences should not matter at all here.

I think you fail to comprehend what personal opinions are, is what I think, or you would not be skiing me to keep my personal opinion out of a thread where all we do is state our personal opinion. And I say that despite your claim to authority of scripture to hide the fact that your opinion of the ops mother is precisely your own personal opinion, unless you want to claim you got a memo from God.

Kobojunkie:
■ As for what God's Law, Jesus Christ, says in regards to Judging, Jesus Christ did say, "Judge not, lest though be judged" He also insisted that His followers Judge not according to outward appearances, but rather Judge everything according to God's standard of right. You cannot logically insist on the just the one rule while pretending you have spoken all of God's Truth now can you? Anyways, God's Law is God's standard of righteousness and all who follow Him will be judged by the Law.... the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ .

There is absolutely nothing the op's mother has done that goes against God's law, unless you know something about the op's mother I don't know. Even her marriage to a traditionalist is not against God's law and may be what God wants of her. Besides, God may decide to forgive her and make her righteous regardless, for God is merciful and wise.

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, according to Scripture, all the men who were approved by God were made aware of it by Him. So whether you believe it is not, that is the way it is written to have worked.

Since for me, "according to what I've seen with my own eyes", our opinions are bound to differ I suppose.

Kobojunkie:
2. Sure you have and as you said these examples are not of worshippers of the God of Scripture who made clear that He does not answer the prayers or the unrighteous. So....

Sermwell's mother reads scripture, and if she has been praying to the God of Scripture for Sermwell's success and them Sermwell succeeds, it would be hard to.prove her God of Scripture did not answer her prayers, I would think.

Kobojunkie:
3. Your views aside, the fact is people like OP'S mother claim to absolutely believe all that is written in the Book. So, again, no need to make this of personal opinion. According to Scripture, all religious practices are antichrist and hence against righteousness.

Be gracious, Kobojunkie, and set aside your own personal opinion which you claim is fact.

Sermwell's mother has not claimed to "absolutely believe all that is written in the Book", and nor has Sermwell made any such claim on her behalf.

No sensible person would claim to live "according to scripture". For even the best of us are at times quick to state our judgemental opinions based on little to no facts when scripture states, "judge not".

Kobojunkie:
So you believe God is a liar?

2. Newsflash - No man approved righteous by God Himself would be caught dead engaging in any of your many fasting rituals, tithing, seed sowing, praise and worship sessions, public prayers, etc.. These practices are all antichrist I.e. against righteousness. Do not mistake religious fervor for Godliness of the God kind.

I guess that's the rub, "approved righteous by God Himself". How do you know if any God approved anyone? Does the approved get a certificate to prove they are "righteous by God Himself"?

"Religious fervour", you say. I have seen a tree worshipper's prayer answered, and even the wishes and hopes and practices of your so called "antichrist" fulfilled too, and as said, the unrighteous looting politician.

No, I don't think Gods lie, kobojunkie. Just that humans tell tall tales and claim they are from their Gods, because there is nothing antichrist about Sermwell's mother, unless you are claiming to know something about her the rest of us don't know.

jumper524:
its actually 45k per term. Raising to about 135k per year before. Now it'll be 900k per year for kid 3 kids.
At a salary of 500k monthly, it won't be easy to manage such expenditure.
If this stands. I'll withdraw my support for the APC govt completely cos I see no logical explanation as to why one would remove subsidy and inflate every other aspect of man's life in one go.
Who you wan kill?

Unfortunately, he has only just begun. I expect him to raise tax soon.

He is being brutal. Buhari did not lie when he said Nigerians youths are lazy, but unfortunately he could not take the necessary action to unlazy them because you were all shouting Fulani. Now, Ọmọ Wa Ni Emilokan is serving us our medicine and we are docily accepting it, for now.

The eventual outcome will be an increase in wages for the deserving hardworkers because they have marketable skills that are in demand and they are worth their wage. You might notice some like in this thread stating the positives of these policies. While the low paid poor will have much smaller increases so they'll wail how bad it is that they need to put in more effort to earn a livable wage.

By the way, be grateful you all. Obidient me would have preferred Obi, and his policies would have had a much greater effect on the economy than we are having. I think. Least because his looting infrastructure, if he has one, wouldn't be in place yet.

Kobojunkie:
Your mother is wrong, and this much we know because Scripture is clear that that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by the their every sin and hence are an abomination to God who cannot abide unholiness. To top it off, she attempting to share part of the glory that is God by suggesting her efforts made it all possible is yet more sin for her to deal with --- God does not share glory with any man or woman.

I do not think this is quite true, because I have seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc." of the unrighteous politicians answered so they win, and their intention while offering it was to unrighteously loot.

I have also seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc. of the righteous go unanswered too, mind, though one might argue what "righteous" is.

Maybe they should separate into two separate nations and countries of Itsekiri and Ijaw since that's the preferred solution of some.