₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
The responses on this thread tells you all you need to know on how much superstition and religion have stifled reasoning in Nigeria in particular and Africa in general. SMH.

Budaatum, these people need some mud from Plato.

Oh, there's loads of sensible loving people here my Lord, but I'll post mud from Plato all the same for it might make the blind see.

A001:
If it's only quoting you do, it would have made sense.

I can't only quote for that would not make sense. For instance, if I quote "the eye is the lamp of the body", and "all the trees and all the seas" without explaining how they link, then all my reading is a waste and I a clanging gong who is unable to open eyes so they see.

I am aware that my words are not for everyone A001, and that some of them will fall by the roadside and the birds come and eat them up. And some of my words will fall on rocky ground where they'll have not much soil but when the sun rise they will be scorched, and because they have no root they will drie up and wither away. Some of my words will fall among thorns and the thorns choked them out. While some of my words will fall on good soil and yield grain–some a hundred times as much as was sown, some sixty times as much, and some thirty. Those who have eyes to see and minds to attempt to understand what they read, shall.

A001:
I don't know what to make of this comment. It's not as if you were ever my favorite nairalander here.

Those I really admire here are some agnostics, atheists, and other irreligious people — people that stay in one place.

I'm not a fan of "a jack of all trades, master of none". The same person is a Muslim, Christian, Freemason, Amorc, traditionalist.

That has been my major issue with your person since the past few years. For a person who's widely read like you, I fail to see the importance of associating yourself with all religions and groups.

But I understand it's your choice.

What you've never considered is that one might be none of those things you think one is and it is your reasoning that might be faulty. I quote Bible and you think I'm a Christian. I quote Qur'an and you think I'm a Muslim. I quote Buddha and you think I'm a Buddhist. I quote Plato and you think I'm a Platoist, I quote Aristotle and you think I'm a teetotalian, I quote Morals and Dogma and you think I'm a Freemasonry, I quote Shakespeare etc etc, etc etc, and you think I am all of those things, and not once A001, have you ever questioned me to check if your reasoning was right.

Is it possible to mix lots of ingredients together and all you've cooked is one of them? Wide reading enables one to widely reason is what you perhaps don't understand. Besides, I am Omo Basorun in a Yoruba town with Muslims, Christians, Ogunists, Soponoists, Oroists, Baptists, Catholics, Sunnis, Wahabis, you name it, from a country with hundreds of tribes with thousands of languages, so why would I not be wise and associate with my neighbours regardless of their religion or group or tribe or language? Don't you think that in order to perform my role well, well read me should associate with all?

I'm not here to be admired or be any ones favorite fan, A001, and that's why I don't stay in one place, so those who can't use their own eyes don't see me. Left to me I'd only associate with people who can reason and think for themselves and are aware not to make things up but as you can see, I even associate with those who don't check if what they believe is true or not though I wish I didn't have to.

What I do know is some actually use their own eyes and look and see what they read and understand it and question when they don't too. I am not the message, you see. I mean, it's not as if you engage with me in real life seeing me for whom I appear to be. My posts are the message. And yes, there is a message or I wouldn't be choosing to waste my time with triple.

Here, let me repeat myself. It might make more sense perhaps.
https://www.nairaland.com/6781124/independence-day-been-free-religion/2#106479740

This market is like Oyingbo market used to be, disorganised with different stalls selling different things all over the place. I'm hoping it's been organised by now. Would be bad if it weren't.

There should at least be subsections in a market so laptops are separate from desktops, and 2080s from 30s and 40s, and i5s from i7s and i9s so we know not to look for 5090s in i8s! Still, your "Complaints/ Suggestions/ Observations Here!" does make you one of the most progressive on NL and I wish others follow.

This has the potential to be first stop not only for Nigerians but all Africans and the world if stalls are laid out appealingly. Sub-sections might be what's needed I'd think.

A001:
I still don't see the reasons why a person will leave either Christianity or Islam, which are cults, only to join another cult.

Going from frying pan to fire.

I know you didn't quote me A001, but neither do I to be honest I must say. I do see why some might want to know about the fire so some can't try fool one with frying pans though.

Go on. Ask triplechoice to give you his reason why "a person will leave either Christianity or Islam, which are cults, only to join another cult" so you can see his reason.

I would love to see it. Though buda never "left either Christianity or Islam".

triplechoice:
All of these doesn't invalidate the fact that you are a member of Amorc, who has been hiding is affiliation, with THE MISSION to recruit innocent souls into your mind bending dangerous cult and get them brainwashed and thereafter bound for the rest of their lives .

You are the one who has been playing the ostrich ,but people like me are not fooled.

Hiding my mission that I post where everyone can see, Triple? Guess you are blind that way.

Below is from 2007 so you may see how well I hide. And thanks for the opportunity to repost it.

budaatum:
PREFACE.

THE following work has been prepared by authority of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-third Degree, for the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States, by the Grand Commander, and is now published by its direction. It contains the Lectures of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in that jurisdiction, and is specially intended to be read and studied by the Brethren of that obedience, in connection with the Rituals of the Degrees. It is hoped and expected that each will furnish himself with a copy, and make himself familiar with it; for which purpose, as the cost of the work consists entirely in the printing and binding, it will be furnished at a price as moderate as possible. No individual will receive pecuniary profit from it, except the agents for its sale.

It has been copyrighted, to prevent its republication elsewhere, and the copyright, like those of all the other works prepared for the Supreme Council, has been assigned to Trustees for that Body. Whatever profits may accrue from it will be devoted to purposes of charity.

The Brethren of the Rite in the United States and Canada will be afforded the opportunity to purchase it, nor is it forbidden that other Masons shall; but they will not be solicited to do so.

In preparing this work, the Grand Commander has been about equally Author and Compiler; since he has extracted quite half its contents from the works of the best writers and most philosophic or eloquent thinkers. Perhaps it would have been better and more acceptable if he had extracted more and written less.

Still, perhaps half of it is his own; and, in incorporating here the thoughts and words of others, he has continually changed and added to the language, often intermingling, in the same sentences, his own words with theirs. It not being intended for the world at large, he has felt at liberty to make, from all accessible sources, a Compendium of the Morals and Dogma of the Rite, to re-mould sentences, change and add to words and phrases, combine them with his own, and use them as if they were his own, to be dealt with at his pleasure and so availed of as to make the whole most valuable for the purposes intended. He claims, therefore, little of the merit of authorship, and has not cared to distinguish his own from that which he has taken from other sources, being quite willing that every portion of the book, in turn, may be regarded as borrowed from some old and better writer.

The teachings of these Readings are not sacramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrine, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to be untrue or unsound. It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgment. Of course, the ancient theosophic and philosophic speculations are not embodied as part of the doctrines of the Rite; but because it is of interest and profit to know what the Ancient Intellect thought upon these subjects, and because nothing so conclusively proves the radical difference between our human and the animal nature, as the capacity of the human mind to entertain such speculations in regard to itself and the Deity. But as to these opinions themselves, we may say, in the words of the learned Canonist, Ludovicus Gomez: "Opiniones secundum varietatem temporum senescant et intermoriantur, aliæque diversæ vel prioribus contrariæ renascantur et deinde pubescant."

Albert Pike, born December 29, 1809, was the oldest of six children born to Benjamin and Sarah Andrews Pike. Pike was raised in a Christian home and attended an Episcopal church. Pike passed the entrance examination at Harvard College when he was 15 years old, but could not attend because he had no funds. After travelling as far west as Santa Fe, Pike settled in Arkansas, where he worked as editor of a newspaper before being admitted to the bar. In Arkansas, he met Mary Ann Hamilton, and married her on November 28, 1834. To this union were born 11 children.

He was 41 years old when he applied for admission in the Western Star Lodge No. 2 in Little Rock, Ark., in 1850. Active in the Grand Lodge of Arkansas, Pike took the 10 degrees of the York Rite from 1850 to 1853. He received the 29 degrees of the Scottish Rite in March 1853 from Albert Gallatin Mackey in Charleston, S.C. The Scottish Rite had been introduced in the United States in 1783. Charleston was the location of the first Supreme Council, which governed the Scottish Rite in the United States, until a Northern Supreme Council was established in New York City in 1813. The boundary between the Southern and Northern Jurisdictions, still recognized today, was firmly established in 1828. Mackey invited Pike to join the Supreme Council for the Southern Jurisdiction in 1858 in Charleston, and he became the Grand Commander of the Supreme Council the following year. Pike held that office until his death, while supporting himself in various occupations such as editor of the Memphis Daily Appeal from February 1867 to September 1868, as well as his law practice. Pike later opened a law office in Washington, D.C., and argued a number of cases before the U.S. Supreme Court. However, Pike was impoverished by the Civil War and remained so much of his life, often borrowing money for basic living expenses from the Supreme Council before the council voted him an annuity in 1879 of $1,200 a year for the remainder of his life. He died on April 2, 1892, in Washington, D.C.

Realizing that a revision of the ritual was necessary if Scottish Rite Freemasonry were to survive, Mackey encouraged Pike to revise the ritual to produce a standard ritual for use in all states in the Southern Jurisdiction. Revision began in 1855, and after some changes, the Supreme Council endorsed Pike's revision in 1861. Minor changes were made in two degrees in 1873 after the York Rite bodies in Missouri objected that the 29th and 30th degrees revealed secrets of the York Rite.

Pike is best known for his major work, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, published in 1871. Morals and Dogma should not be confused with Pike's revision of the Scottish Rite ritual. They are separate works. Walter Lee Brown writes that Pike "intended it [Morals and Dogma] to be a supplement to that great 'connected system of moral, religious and philosophical instruction' that he had developed in his revision of the Scottish ritual."

Morals and Dogma was traditionally given to the candidate upon his receipt of the 14th degree of the Scottish Rite. This practice was stopped in 1974. Morals and Dogma has not been given to candidates since 1974. A Bridge to Light, by Rex R. Hutchens, is provided to candidates today. Hutchens laments that Morals and Dogma is read by so few Masons. A Bridge to Light was written to be "a bridge between the ceremonies of the degrees and their lectures in Morals and Dogma."

kingbee90:
Decriminalise weed
Decriminalise weed
Decriminalise weed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cIePqdz03A

“The species they have, which they say they have decriminalised in some of those countries, are those without Tetrahydrocannabinol, which is the active ingredient that makes one to be something else,” he said.

“We have cannabis that is far, far more potent, almost 45 percent, 100 percent Tetrahydrocannabinol. We can’t compare it to what they’re saying they have decriminalised.”

I want to call him a liar, but see ignorance! Most cannabis sold in Nigeria does not look like the picture posted which is indoor grown and is nowhere near!

Our cannabis is grown outdoors in the sun and acres of it instead of a say 100 plants grown in greenhouse or 4 plants in a house, and we leave it out in the sun to dry which kills the THC instead of in a climate controlled drier which preserves it like the THC sparkling on that bud!

UK people just control themselves better is what it is, their dope is dope!

Don't do drugs! Drugs kill!

coatofwealth:
Good evening to all great Engineers in the house.
Please, I need help on how go about this Window 11 Pro license.
I updated my PC from Window 10 Pro to Window 11 Pro three months ago and I was shocked when I received this message today that my windows license will soon expiry.
Please, how do I go about it?
Thanks

See if this helps. The second one. Then third if not.

How to Activate Windows 11 for Free: 2 Best Ways https://www.guidingtech.com/how-to-activate-windows-11-for-free/

Does this Seun think twitter is Nairaland or does he just want to blow up?

Make sure you all read news on this because it's rapidly gone from "seating arrangement" to "clash" to "assassination attempt"!

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/06/video-drama-as-adeleke-leaves-eid-ground-in-anger-over-poor-seating-arrangement/amp/

https://punchng.com/adelekes-aide-ex-senate-spokesperson-clash-at-osogbo-eid-praying-ground/?amp

https://dailypost.ng/2023/06/28/eid-el-kabir-chaos-averted-in-osogbo-over-alleged-assassination-attempt-on-adeleke/?amp=1

LeoDeKing:
Shinedu, is nairaland located in alaigbo?

My own pay sef no reach 30k, na just 3k for 6 months. I'm just trying hard so Tinubu go upgrade am to 5k.

Meanwhile, how much pandora Obituary dey pay? E reach $10m per day?

He no de pay shishi, that stingy astute Obi!

Obi say make we labour, and not just come and chop, and that's why some of us like him as opposed to vote buyers who encourage laziness.

triplechoice:
The first step to protecting your mind is to avoid bounding with a known cult member both online and offline .But it's not easy to know them as they don't easily announce their affiliation . The op has been acting that way too..

Just keep your distance.

I'll call it, the ostrich method. First you label people then you stick your head in the sand. Thankfully you can't stick other people's heads in the sand with you.

For those who might wonder where this all began.
https://www.nairaland.com/7726647/near-death-experience-atheist-professor

Maynmann:
Of course it is an ADVANCEMENT.

So, empiricism is not so bad, and your problem seems to be Amorc it seems. Tell me, Mayn. Me being a Nigerian, would you expect an avid seeker of knowledge as me to not have investigated and studied Rosicrucianism?

Let me tell you a story.

Ma met da while studying nursing and he law. He was the Rosicrucian and he paid subs, got the magazines and all the books too. The magazines were full of Ancient Egypt and Greece, least the pictures I was looking at were, and da used to spend hours reading them. And guess who he got the money from? Ma. Since she was getting paid to study nursing and he was paying for law. They separated eventually. Ma's "show me" just didn't rank well with da's "believe me it's true", especially considering the financial outflow with no financial return and 5 kids to feed.

I have read a lot about a lot of subjects, Mayn, enough for me to shamelessly be able to say that in quite some subjects like Freemasons, Rosicrucian, Qabala (spell checked changed it to Wahala, which defines you for me), hermeticism, Buddhism, Islam, history philosophy, cookery, science, education, stupidity, gods, devils, etc etc etc, I have acquired what could be considered "specialist knowledge" as far as many Nigerians who don't read are concerned. That's not to say I have knowledge that is not available for anyone to access, because it is. Just that many can't invest the time to delve deep enough to reduce their ignorance on topics that don't positively impact their finances. And what many are ignorant of must of course be "mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena" to them, which is what occult means.

I am proud you label me occult, Mayn, please know. You are claiming I have knowledge at least if not powers of things many think are secret because they know nothing about it themselves. Thankfully, buda's aversion to the Garden of Eden shows clearly where occult buda stands.

And on that note, a "cult book" is essential. Sorry it's not audio.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A43420.0001.001/1:10?rgn=div2;view=toc

Maynmann:
Of course it is an ADVANCEMENT.
Bud, Nigeria is a secular state.
Most empiricist are theists, the father of empiricism is.
The founders of Amorc are theists.

I'm going to do two responses to this, this is the first.

Why do you blurt out nonsensical things that you have no evidence whatsoever for and that are untrue but expect one to believe you?

A001:
If I didn't join a cult throughout my studentship in the university, no be now I go join one.

And no one has asked you to join a cult in this thread, and please let it be known if that changes.

Maynmann:
the term "empiric" was originally used as a disparaging term for quack doctors who relied on trial-and-error methods rather than established medical knowledge.

And isn't trial and error an advancement on orthodoxy which means "authorized or generally accepted theory, doctrine, or practice"?

The authorized or generally accepted theory, doctrine, or practice in Nigeria is to believe in Gods. Empiricist are here arguing that gods don't exist and are being disparaged as quacks.

Maynmann:
It’s you that should, especiall......

So, empiric as opposed to orthodoxy.

The orthodoxy in Nigeria today is "God created Heaven and Earth".

The Empiricist would say, "show me evidence for this God first, then we can discuss it creating anything".

A001:
OK then.

You must fail not to inform when the op asks you to join a cult. And trust your own instincts please.

Maynmann:
Yes he is the “Father of Empiricism”, the doctrine you are profusely defending here.

The doctrine of Empiricism was first explicitly formulated by the British philosopher John Locke in the late 17th Century.


That will be you basking in a cult you know nothing about, Neophyte.

Upgrade your faux knowledge to better understand this “ Even the students of Francis Bacon, your fellow occultists knows.”

You really should read more.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism

Maynmann:
Even the students of Francis Bacon, your fellow occultists knows.

There you go again posting what you know nothing about.

Francis Bacon is known as the Father of Empiricism, and if you knew what the word meant and anything of the time he was writing you'd not make the faux pas you make here.

I'm adding a link to Heidegger's Being and Time here, as it really ought to be part of this mission.

https://www.nairaland.com/6023861/being-time-martin-heidegger/1#99456897


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_nNEN7JUiM

I now understand why she was grateful.

Out of no where, she sent £50 to my PayPal account and requested a refund and got it promptly.

Rubbish nonsense. And I mean the reporting, because I don't believe bubu would beg not to be probed.

Bubu must be probed if reasons to probe him exist. That's the only way to show if his fight against corruption worked or if he made corruption worse.

Thankfully, the media will eventually reveal evidence for his probe or no probe, and Nigerians would judge Tinubu by what he does or does not do in its regard.

You made it sound like the minority leader would come from APC when APC would naturally want a weak minority leader from the opposition party who would be subservient to them.

During an interview with Arise Television on June 26, Sani expressed his belief that the ruling APC aims to have a Minority Leader who will be subservient to them. He warned that such a scenario would be detrimental to the PDP and the Labour Party, potentially leading to their demise.

Thankfully the article warns against taking this serious.

It is important to note that this statement represents the views of Shehu Sani and may not necessarily reflect the current political dynamics or future outcomes.

So, natural body functions are the "knowledge" you were born with but now you admit differ to acquired skills which you were obviously not born with since you must do work to acquire skills?

Anyway, I'm delighted to see you and Triple become pals. Long may your palness last, I hope.

EnlightenedUFO:
I'm truly certain that you are NOT ok. You are having a mental fit and it's now getting worrisome.
If you objectively read your trash again, you'd know what I'm saying.
If they make 3% of the population, why is your hate giving you erections?

See his brother.

https://www.autostraddle.com/colorado-club-q-shooting-suspect-pleads-guilty-to-lgbtq-mass-shooting/

₦1075 for a bank card is theft! The card is to enable you assess their service for which you park your money with them so they can make profit off you.

Younghacka:
I've Tried To Read The Bible From Genesis To Revelation, Each Time I Start With Must Gusto But I Stop Around Deuteronomy Or Thereabout. To Be Continued The Next Year.
What Do You Mean At The Bolded?

I can't see well enough anymore to read as much as I used to. Optician says it's the result of too much reading with bad light (candles and lantern). Pity, as there's still quite a lot of books I'd love to read and can't find them in audio.

I've posted a link to audio Bible. Download it on to your phone to listen to as you go about and you'd soon get to the end.

Who would ask and under what circumstances would one be asked to choose between a job and one's wife?

And why the heck wouldn't I tell that job to go fuq itself when I can go get a job elsewhere?

I was about to say it's laziness, but see you already said.

Life does need to be this hard for Nigerians, I'm afraid. For while we read that from the sweat of our brows shall we eat, many still look up to the heavens for their daily bread.

UK learnt from hunger, so we just might learn too.