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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by budaatum: 5:42pm On Jun 26, 2023
IMAliyu2:
More whataboutism, Yes it's bad when the US does it aswell.

What coup? (You might want to look up what the word means)
Do You mean the protests of Yanukovych's corrupt government, where he ordered firing upon civilian protesters.
Then he got ousted, and fled to Russia.
After which Ukraine held another presidential election
After which was when Russian decided to annex Crimea, because their puppet leader got removed?

This all started because the Ukrainian parliament sided with closer ties to the EU, because they saw that being more prosperous for their country, and Putin didn't like that and got Yanukovych to go against the will of his people.
They conveniently forget the will of the Ukrainians and Yanukovych thwarting it.
Autos › Re: Naira Devaluation Pushes Up Vehicles Duties By 40% by budaatum: 5:21pm On Jun 26, 2023
Nononsense247:
Shutup ... Those that wish and wants Tinubu to fail are enemies of this country ... Premature death shall locate them ..
Shut me up or kill me if you can.

I do not want Tinubu to fail. If Tinubu fails, it's me and my family and you who will suffer while Tinubu will end up much richer.

budaatum:
Love Tinubu's electricity bill and student loan bill and petrol desubsidisation. If he scraps the employers wage subsidy called NYSC he will become my current god.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Westerners Should Fight Each Other Instead Of Threatening The Civilized World by budaatum: 7:25am On Jun 26, 2023
Seems the op stopped learning history in 1815.

Further learning will show him NATO began with the Treaty of Dunkirk signed by Britain and France. It was created to eliminate wars, and not to fight wars.

Autos › Re: Naira Devaluation Pushes Up Vehicles Duties By 40% by budaatum: 7:14am On Jun 26, 2023
Everything should have doubled in price by now since Tinubu is performing wonders!

I expect Corpers allowee to double too, though there appears to be no plan to increase it.

Mẹ? I'm very Obidient.

Christianity Etc › Re: Probe Begins As Mob Kills Butcher Over Alleged Blasphemy by budaatum: 7:00am On Jun 26, 2023
Poor Buda. At least they are investigating. Times were when it would have been deemed he got what he deserved.
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Does Not Exist, How Were The First Human Created? by budaatum: 6:58am On Jun 26, 2023
ErnestNc:
Since you Indirectly claim to be wise...

Where did those supposed "life forms" emanate from?
It is not your fault. I blame the Nigerian education system for depriving you of knowledge.

Creation and_evolution in public education

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Does Not Exist, How Were The First Human Created? by budaatum:
guysbewise:
Even the USA has now told schools to teach intelligent design based on how complicated the human cells are, that contrary to what was known before that now with high tech for research that we were created by an Intelligent Being.
Noticed you had no source. Here's some ketchup.

US judge bans intelligent design from science lessons
· Victory for parents on teaching of evolution
· Theory ruled to be religion by the back door

A US federal judge today ruled that "intelligent design" - the belief that a higher power, rather than evolution, created life - cannot be mentioned in biology classes in a Pennsylvania school district.

The Dover area school board violated the constitution when it ordered that its biology curriculum must include intelligent design (ID), district judge John Jones said.

The policy, adopted in October 2004, is believed to have been the first of its kind in the country.

"The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the board who voted for the ID policy," Judge Jones wrote in his 139-page judgement.

"It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy.

"We find that the secular purposes claimed by the board amount to a pretext for the board's real purpose, which was to promote religion in the public school classroom."

The board's attorneys said members sought to improve science education by exposing students to alternatives to Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection, or evolution. Intelligent-design supporters argue that it cannot fully explain the existence of complex life forms.

The district was sued by a group of 11 parents who claimed the intelligent design policy was unconstitutional and unscientific and had no place in science classrooms. They argued that intelligent design amounts to a secular repackaging of creationism, which the courts have already ruled cannot be taught in public schools.

The Dover policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement said Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact", has inexplicable "gaps", and refers students to ID textbook Of Pandas and People for more information.

Mr Jones said advocates of intelligent design "have bona fide and deeply held beliefs which drive their scholarly endeavours" and that he didn't believe the concept shouldn't be studied and discussed.

"Our conclusion today is that it is unconstitutional to teach ID as an alternative to evolution in a public school science classroom," he wrote.

The dispute is the latest chapter in a long-running debate over the teaching of evolution dating back to the famous 1925 Scopes monkey trial, in which Tennessee biology teacher John Scopes was fined $100 (£57) for violating a state law that forbade teaching evolution. The Tennessee supreme court reversed his conviction on the narrow ground that only a jury trial could impose a fine exceeding $50, and the law was repealed in 1967.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/dec/21/evolution.schoolsworldwide
Politics › Re: Diversification: Why Nigeria Must Increase Oil & Gas Production by budaatum: 9:53pm On Jun 25, 2023
cooooooks:
- no tariffs on food.
The biggest issue in nigeria is that the cost of living is high. We need to get the cost of feeding down immediately.

The above will have immediate positive impacts on the economy.
I can't possibly agree with this, though my responding is because I do agree with your other points.

Removal of tariff on imported food will make it even less profitable to grow at home and thereby kill off farmers and increase unemployment.

You might enjoy cheap food to start with, but you'd eventually pay more when our currency depreciates due to the loss of food exports.

I am biased of course. I am a farmer.
Politics › Re: Diversification: Why Nigeria Must Increase Oil & Gas Production by budaatum: 9:47pm On Jun 25, 2023
Has anyone asked about increasing the value of Nairaland yet?

Selling shares so it's vision is not led by a single individual might do it and even Nigeria some good.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: What To Do About My Situation by budaatum: 5:22pm On Jun 25, 2023

Education › Re: Considering Dropping Out Of Uni For Rain Tech Institute - Need Advice. by budaatum:
If I were your parent I would not allow you to waste the money I've already paid for you to go to Unizik. You haven't exactly produced any returns on money already spent, so why would parent I expect returns if I spent any more? Worst is if you chose Unizik and the course by yourself, because that's like parent let's you order what you like in a restaurant, and when waiter brings it and after you eat small, you say you don't like it no more and want to order something else instead.

One thing uni teaches, though not exactly on the curricula, is resilience. It's a course worth passing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 2:53pm On Jun 25, 2023
triplechoice:
And where did I say my mind is not part of my body?
Well, you did ask me to 0r9ve to you that it was, do it wouldn't exactly be remise if me to assume you thought otherwise.

triplechoice:
The question is ,what is the source of the human consciousness? Matter or

Answer that if you know it, and stop twisting and turning .
Your question is as senseless as asking what the source of the universe is. Hopefully, you are aware these things came into existence long before I did and any claim I may make about their source would be in the form of "dem say", which I have derided you for doing on here from the onset and so would not do so myself.

Fact however remains that consciousness, and mind, are inherent in living things which are matter, and thinking otherwise is to assume matter itself came out of thin air.

P.s. You might benefit from downloading and listening to Aristotle extensive writing on this subject.

https://archive.org/download/aristtl/Aristotle/Aristotle%20-%20Metaphysics.m4b

I sure would benefit if you do as it would bring you up to a level where you are competent to discuss the topic. Do note that more modern writings exist too, like Karl Popper for instance. Reading such books will reduce your belief in the rubbish you been spilling here, and give you insight into the relevant skills to help you determine if you think right or wrong.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 2:37pm On Jun 25, 2023
triplechoice:
I have done that and millions of others in the world who also subscribe to the same thing ,which they know is true, 'have also done the same before announcing it to whomever cares to listen .
Then simply present here the details of your tests instead of asking for anecdotes to be believed please. If one studys your evidence and finds what you found one might end up advertising it for you even if one finds no use for it oneself.

Those who care to listen to you will. I've been partially listening to you because I care too, and what I'm finding is unbelievable.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:42am On Jun 25, 2023
triplechoice:
SMH. Why should I should I do so when I m not traned scientist.
You should test your product before you bring it to market, Triple. Or you might arrive at the market and potential non-buyers call you fake.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Flat ....not Spherical. by budaatum: 10:40am On Jun 25, 2023
Plato argued that all things have a universal form, which could be either a property or a relation to other things. When one looks at an apple, for example, one sees an apple, and one can also analyse a form of an apple. In this distinction, there is a particular apple and a universal form of an apple. Moreover, one can place an apple next to a book, so that one can speak of both the book and apple as being next to each other. Plato argued that there are some universal forms that are not a part of particular things. For example, it is possible that there is no particular good in existence, but "good" is still a proper universal form. Aristotle disagreed with Plato on this point, arguing that all universals are instantiated at some period of time, and that there are no universals that are unattached to existing things. In addition, Aristotle disagreed with Plato about the location of universals. Where Plato spoke of the forms as existing separately from the things that participate in them, Aristotle maintained that universals exist within each thing on which each universal is predicated. So, according to Aristotle, the form of apple exists within each apple, rather than in the world of the forms.[34][37]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle
Education › Re: Books Required To Educate The Youth by budaatum: 10:27am On Jun 25, 2023
kkins25:
In due time! haven't really read the whole of platos work myself. just youtube breakdown and summaries.
I haven't read the whole of Plato's works myself neither. Would have if I'd found them as a youth and had the time though. Still read enough to find an understanding of his methods is beneficial and quickly moved on to reading the more advanced Aristotle.
Christianity Etc › Re: Guys Am For Real For Real This Time. Ww3 Officially Starts This July 2023 by budaatum: 10:13am On Jun 25, 2023
sukkot:
I hope you don't have to pay for these constant harrasments of the prophets
Bible Verses About False Teachers

Education › Re: Books Required To Educate The Youth by budaatum: 9:53am On Jun 25, 2023
Youths should read some Plato so they can be smarter than their parents.

https://www.nairaland.com/7731741/mission#123856489
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 12:08am On Jun 25, 2023
triplechoice:
Good .
Then provide evidence in support of your ,yes,

It must be peer reviewed ,not wikipedia articles which contains soeculatory theories .
Dude, I do not need to provide you with evidence that your mind is a part of your body since I am offering my subjective opinion and not some objective fact, and because it's perfectly okay with me if you don't think your mind is part of your body.

Besides, evidence is me educating you, and it's not like you paid school fees or deserve to be taught by me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 12:02am On Jun 25, 2023
triplechoice:
Meet with a real scientist to teach you, one on one, what both really means ,and stop depending on what you read on Wikipedia.

What is scientific evidence ,

https://theconversation.com/scientific-evidence-what-is-it-and-how-can-we-trust-it-14716
I'm certain we can agree that you have not done anything that is described in the link you posted. And that's why we claim your so called evidence lacks credibility.

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum:
triplechoice:
So once again ,tell us ,based on what you know, has mind or consciousness emerged from matter ? Yes or no.
Yes, Triple, if matter means physical substance in general, which occupies space and possesses rest mass, and despite my hesitance at the word, "emerge".

Mind and consciousness are inherent in living things (as opposed to your "emerged" ), which are matter because they have physical substance which occupies space and possesses rest mass.

That is not to say all physical substance which occupies space and possesses rest mass has a mind and or consciousness as one would note from observing a rock.

[url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem]Here's a link[/url] to some reading explaining how the mind and body (matter) are interlinked. It should get you up to speed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 4:17pm On Jun 24, 2023
triplechoice:
If you cannot find what is scientifically proven , you can try the one's proven anecdotally ,to work ,pending the time it will properly investigated by scientist who may end up after all confirming it's good . If they say it's not good or toixc ,then abandoned it.
There's different sorts of anecdotal evidence. I've used 2 stories from my past so far as anecdotal evidence of my claim, and I don't expect you to believe nor accept my anecdotal evidence as scientific evidence for my claim because it isn't.

There is so much "scientifically proven" out there to try before you get to "proven anecdotally", Triple, though I confess that depends on the environment one is in. If one were poor and healthcare cost tons, one would need to consider the financial cost of a cure and thereby go for alternatives than more expensive proven cures for instance. I have a friend who tried alternatives. She had breast cancer and refused the scientifically proven treatments, preferring the alternative herbal treatments. She died in 3 years while a neighbour of mine survived for 25 years of the same breast cancer because she went to hospital.

"Scientifically proven" does not necessarily mean a thing has to be investigated by scientist, since any individual can investigate if a thing works themselves. We do it with all medications we take be they herbal or more rigourously tested medicines. We take them, and if we survive, they've worked. And that's us doing science, as in, using our own senses to judge a thing. If I then recommend that cure to someone else, the least I could do, if I'm the honest educated sort, is keep records of the outcomes, which is just more science, as it gives me data that I can objectively consider. That's the sort of "science" the TB Joshuas of this world don't do that makes us skeptical of their claims. At best they present anecdotal evidence. In reality they are scammers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfKpAWkgJY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZbR5DMksDE
Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 3:38pm On Jun 24, 2023
triplechoice:
Not everyone can do so doesn't mean some people aren't doing that or have done so in their own way . People can use a product base on anecdotal evidence pending the time it would be scientifically proven.
People give their money to gods too, and digest sniper that has been proven to kill, so I'd hesitate at using what people do as evidence.

triplechoice:
And how do you know if I have not done my own reseaech concerning the things I know?
I know because whatever evidence you have so far presented is anecdotal at best, and of little quality and value.

triplechoice:
These are natural abilities people are born with......
Sorry, but I do not do "natural abilities people are born with".

People used to call on my ma at all hours, some caught short and not being able to get to hospital. At nights it was mostly labour, a woman on the verge of birth giving. My job was to ensure water was boiled and towels were at hand to receive the arriving baby.

It always amazed me that the babys were not born with the most normally expected natiral ability to breath, and only learnt by reacting to their new environment.

If we did not teach humans how and where to shìt they'd be shítting on themselves due to the lack of the "natural ability" to know better.

triplechoice:
Scientist use the placebo effects in drug trials ,even when they don't yet know why the brain makes it work . Why dont you go ask them to stop using it since it's not yet scientifically proven.
You should try reading instead of focusing on your market. It will help you learn to improve your product

budaatum:
"This is just utter nonsense. If a remedy effects a cure, it has worked. And that work is the evidence of its efficacy."
The placebo works. And for your information, there's sufficient knowledge out there about why and how it works that you can go find out if you are not too lazy to do the work.

And it's you who's hell bent on "why it works, and not me. I don't know why nor how NDEs or OBEs or even dreams work and people still claim to have had them.

triplechoice:
Too much of everything is bad.
This is true, Triple, very true indeed. I myself apply it to writing on here by not writing long senseless tirades that only muddle and deduct from conversations. Those who write too much tend not to be listening to themselves and have problems reflecting. Point is, after the above, I stopped reading. My time is too precious to be wasted on nonsense.
Christianity Etc › Re: Have You Had A Precognitive Dream Before ? by budaatum: 9:01pm On Jun 23, 2023
With the vast number of dreams an individual would have through its lifetime it is very likely to have a few dreams which seem to be predictions of the future but I doubt any one but a swindler would set up shop on such skills.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/dreams/precognitive-dreams

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum:
triplechoice:
If you think my claims are not scientifically proven, ( you don't even know what that means ) then don't buy my 'herbal products '.
Your claims are not even properly reported anecdotes not to talk of scientifically proven, but no wonder you are so pained. buda is spoiling your market.

If you were conscious you'd have known this is the wrong place to set up stall to sell what you're selling, but you'd learn eventually I suppose.

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 8:37pm On Jun 23, 2023
triplechoice:
You are yapping nonsense because you don't know the difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific evidence . And why did you not specify what remedy this time .

You want to deceive yourself . We are talking about herbal remedy which sometimes is not scientifically proven and not any other kind . Stick with that .

Gibberish and irrelevant nonsense you brought in.

I'm not interested in guess work to know how my consciousness work. If you depend on that ,goodluck .i
Triple, let us not rely on guess work. Gods forbid, but if you fall ill I am guessing you will not go to a herbalist for a herbal remedy that is not scientifically proven unless you are broke and poor. Tell me you wouldn't go to a scientifically trained medical doctor instead.

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 8:27pm On Jun 23, 2023
triplechoice:
Not everyone is properly trained to carry out scientific research concerning the things they use or consume . You didnt make any sense here.




You answered your previous comments here . There must be competence in carrying out research . Not everyone can do it .

The local woman who sells local herbal remedies lack competence to scientifically explain how what she sells work .

As long as it's not toxic, please allow her to sell her products in peace . Look elsewhere for your cure .

At least you see the sense why products manufactures should not do so .
You should at least be sufficiently "properly trained to carry out scientific research concerning the things" you plan to sell to the public don't you think? Most societies have their NAFDAC to ensure not properly trained you don't sell your untested snake skin oil to the public.
Education › Re: 8 Countries With Free Education For International Students 2023 by budaatum: 3:59pm On Jun 23, 2023
I found the below to be sufficiently true.

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 3:42pm On Jun 23, 2023
triplechoice:
If it's not toxic and works ,without scientific validation, use it. .

This is my position.
Coming from a home shared by a medical professional, I can't possibly be that stupid and ignorant.

Cure for temperature amongst many is to cover the shivering person in lots of clothing which rises their temperature even further. Some don't have fits but many do and die, but ask those who live and they'd claim it works.

Once, ma got called by a parent in the neighbourhood. Her daughter was burning hot, please help. On arrival, ma took child's temperature, quickly took child's clothes and blanket coverings off child and dunked (I exaggerate small), child in the woman's Coca-Cola cooler. Minutes later the child's temperature dropped and after being treated for malaria the child was well a few days later.

That's why we do science, as in keep objective records of the tests we do that prove a thing works or not. This objective evidence we record is what shows whether a thing worked or not, and if it works, we do more science to find out what makes it work.

triplechoice:
And why are you against this and don't want me to speak my truth which others who don't know about it could benefit from ?

The worst part you have not provided any reasonable alternative.
Your subjective truth, you mean, which you are trying very hard but failing to present as some sort of objective truth?

Seriously, I am surprised you'd think your claims would not be scrutinised here. You'd think your time here would have thought you it would, but I guess you might have failed to consider the feedback you been getting.

The alternative, which I am very certain many others get here is, use your senses to check all spirits. It's even in a book read by many, though I don't expect you to see it in that context.

Christianity Etc › Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 3:16pm On Jun 23, 2023
triplechoice:
There's a difference between ,'it works ' and 'what makes it to work.
Of course there's a difference in cause and effect, but you only find out what makes a thing work after you have ascertained sufficiently that it works, and both require detail records of the method used for both which is what science is.

triplechoice:
It's because you are unaware of what goes on within the scientific community ,you just assume that if an individual scientist or group of scientist present their own research findings for just about anything for verification, then it will be investigated immediately . Not so.
Of course "not so"! You first have to have competence in the chosen field and your research has to show significant improvements on previous research for anyone to bother, and the reason they would bother is because there's money in doing so. And it's not true you can't fund your own scrutiny. Companies do it all the time, and even pay to have results fiddled, though they are usually rumbled in the end.

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