₦airaland Forum

seunlayi:
pay what? Did you work?

Please read.

budaatum:
Its not your fault. If I had educated you well, you'd know already that those who do no work do not deserve to be paid. After all, I did not educate you to go and work for free, nor did I educate you to expect to be paid while you sit on your ass doing no work for the pay.

Anyway, it's not too late for free education, so open your eyes and read please. And ask questions if there's anything you do not understand.

Section 43 of the Trade Disputes Act, recognises the right of a worker to disengage from service where there is a breakdown in negotiation with his employer, also provides a corresponding right to the employer to withhold the employee’s wages for the said period. Judgements at the National Industrial Court also affirmed the principle of No-work-no pay.

mariahAngel:
That your write-up made me laugh.

I think your cheerful spirit is all you need.

That cheerful spirit is the food that fills my belly. Very annoying it can be too when I can't eat the real good food I prepare.

Today though, even after the pasta and spare ribs, I feel like I can eat more. So, I'm going to put a salad on the menu and see if I really can.

JJuanMiguel:
Compassionate ground, to buy pap, ewa and agbado

We are tired of lecturers lamenting about "empty stomach" on social media

I am not lamenting anything here. In fact, I am enjoying the strike and my time away from you unruly students who can't even read simple English not to talk of book.

JJuanMiguel:
Now you want the government to still pay you for all the time you were away.

Please don't make me have to inform you to go back to primary school to learn to understand what you read!

JJuanMiguel:
Send this to Industrial court and get half October salary.

Why? Did I work for half October or do you not know the meaning of no work no pay?

JJuanMiguel:
Lol
You are talking about rent and your children school fees now
Why didn't you consider them before abandoning your source of livelihood for 8 months?

What about the consequences of your action on business owners around the campuses?
Students house rents etc.

You were at home relaxed all this time thinking you have nothing to lose as usual.
Where you use students, then resume and get paid for it

Did you intentionally choose to ignore the following:

budaatum:
Please do not worry about my loan. The strike has allowed me to have the time to take up remote work from all over the world and earn more in a few months than I get paid in a year lecturing you.

mariahAngel:
Sorry about that.

Does Buda practice intermittent fasting?
I think it might help Buda.

"Intermittent fasting"? Lol!

I eat little as it is, and often go whole days on coffee alone, so I don't think any more not eating would do me much good.

itsRhamzy:
Even if you're going to be paid don't expect to be paid the full 8 months.

Its not your fault. If I had educated you well, you'd know already that those who do no work do not deserve to be paid. After all, I did not educate you to go and work for free, nor did I educate you to expect to be paid while you sit on your ass doing no work for the pay.

Anyway, it's not too late for free education, so open your eyes and read please. And ask questions if there's anything you do not understand.

Section 43 of the Trade Disputes Act, recognises the right of a worker to disengage from service where there is a breakdown in negotiation with his employer, also provides a corresponding right to the employer to withhold the employee’s wages for the said period. Judgements at the National Industrial Court also affirmed the principle of No-work-no pay.

JJuanMiguel:
It's not by force to educate me.

Of course it's not by force to educate.

So why are you demanding I return to educating you, I wonder!

ASUU’s key demands

1. Funding for the revitalisation of public universities. The Federal Government, in its agreement entered with the union in 2009 and 2013, agreed to inject a total of N1.3 trillion into public universities in six tranches, starting from 2013. Only N200 billion has been released since 2013.

2. Payment of earned academic allowances (EEA). The Federal Government had in 2019 agreed to pay lecturers EAA, but failed to implement it. The government finally agreed to pay the first tranche of the backlog of allowances in November 2019 and the second instalment by August 2020, but nothing was paid. In 2020, the Federal Government agreed to pay N40 billion. It also said it has released N22.127 billion earned allowances of both academic and non-academic workers of universities to 38 universities.

3. Reconstitution of the FGN/ASUU 2009 Renegotiation Committee. The Federal Government agreed to renegotiate the 2009 agreement to review university’s conditions of service, funding, university autonomy and academic freedom. The conditions of service included a separate salary structure for university lectures to be known as ‘Consolidated University Academic Salary Structure’. Thirteen years later, the government inaugurated a seven-man committee to renegotiate the 2019 agreement, led by Nimi Briggs.

4. Adoption of UTAS. ASUU kicked against the introduction of the Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System (IPPIS), and wants the government to accept its own UTAS.

5. Constitution of visitation panels. The union is demanding that the government ought to visit its universities every five years, according to the law, but the last visit was conducted in January 2011. The Nigerian government finally inaugurated 10 panels for 36 universities, six for 25 polytechnics, and five for 21 colleges of education.

6. Proliferation of universities.
The union is calling for the review of the Nigeria Universities Commission (2004) Act to tackle the proliferation of universities.

7. Withheld salaries and non-remittance of check-off dues. These are contained on December 22, 2020 Memorandum of Action. ASUU accused the Federal Government of deducting check-off dues on behalf of the union and refused to remit the same between February and June 2020.

8. Twenty-six percent budgetary allocation to the education sector. In a bid to improve the education sector, the union wants 26 percent of Nigeria’s annual budget to be allocated to education, and half of that allocation to universities.

https://businessday.ng/news/article/explainer-asuus-demands-and-what-government-has-met/

JJuanMiguel:
What were you due? That made you flee from work for 8 months?
As a self acclaimed intellectual, what made you think absconding from work is the solution?
After 8 months, what have you achieved apart from self torture?

I just pity the ones that have taken loans among you

Do you expect me to continue educating you without my due pay?

Do you think I'd be motivated to educate you when I can not pay my own rent or feed my own children or myself?

Do you think you could possibly get good education from me when I'm worried I have no money?

Please do not worry about my loan. The strike has allowed me to have the time to take up remote work from all over the world and earn more in a few months than I get paid in a year lecturing you.

mariahAngel:
Any particular reason why or Buda prefers it that way?

buda can not eat much because buda's internals got damaged and do not work well no more.

Something to do with my toes.

mariahAngel:
Does Buda eat eggs? I think Buda should, if Buda does not mind.

I have had one egg in my fridge since July. I plan to take it outside one day and smash it to see how it has survived. Don't want it to stink up my home if I smashed it indoors. Plan to buy some for omelettes though, next time I'm out shopping.

mariahAngel:
Buda's food looks good.

Thank you. I forgot the olives. They'd have made it look even much better.

Well done, op. Some people need to be taught lessons.

JJuanMiguel:
Next time, don't abscond from work and be expecting giveaway after several months.

Next time, pay me what I'm due and I'd have no reason to abscond from work.

You don't say!
https://www.nairaland.com/6539682/games-thrones-house-dragon-official

itsRhamzy:
what were you owed before you went on strike? Did you teach any student for 8 months? Was FG owing you your salaries before doing busybody going on strike? So what do you want them to pay you for now? Tell us let nairalanders see what FG was owing you that you want paid.

Read please.
https://www.nairaland.com/7372876/call-off-strike-interest-children#117385307

JJuanMiguel:
You want to kidnap the children?

If I wanted to kidnap the children I'd not go on strike. I'd just kidnap them where I lecture them instead of allowing them to return to the safe home of their parents.

JJuanMiguel:
How months salary were you owed before the strike?

I was not only owed months salary. I was also owed other entitlements that the government refused to pay me!

HitRun:
Anyway, one of the reason ASUU Dey on strike na because of earned allowance. You know Wetin that earned allowance be? You no know, make I tell you: ratio of students to lecturers too much. To reduce that ratio, govt need employ more lecturers. But either them no fit find qualified people to employ or them no wan employ, so them decide the pay the lecturers allowance to teach those extra students wey dem no suppose the teach. The point be say govt no fit or no wan employ. So perish any idea of say govt go sack anybody employ new people because them no go see who to employ.

Thanks again HitRun. You are saving me from typing.

itsRhamzy:
Even if you're going to be paid don't expect to be paid the full 8 months.

I do not teach my students to go and work for no pay, so I'd hardly expect to be paid for work I never did.

That said, since Nigeria government is so dumb, expect me to push my luck a bit.

itsRhamzy:
pay you what exactly? Didn't you shutdown schools 8 months ago? I ask again what do you want them to pay you for?

I want to be paid what I am owed that made me go on strike. After all, I am not striking for me to be paid for while I am in strike. I striked because you refused to pay me what I was due for the work I had been doing.

I rule my entire being.

If I can not rule my entire being at the very least, there's absolutely no way I could possibly grow to the point of "be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth".

That's why the fruits of trees of knowledge are my preferred food, for that's what teaches me to rule my being and some.

Shame no gree dem campaign openly because they know he's no good.

mariahAngel:
Are there?
I'd like to know.

Yes there are. buda can not eat much.

But this thread finally enabled me to eat the pasta and spareribs that I've been hoping to eat for 3 days now, so thank you all.

Suspension is lifted and disregarded.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Do you believe and accept the priesthood of all believers?

If your answer is "no", why not?

As in, would I abandon the use of my own senses and choose instead to believe you because you consider yourself the priesthood of all believers?


Note to buda

Please take your buda head to the bottom of a river and bash it against a rock for not using the brain in your own buda head and your own buda heart and buda soul and buda mind and buda being to ask and knock and seek for yourself, because no where does it say that if you lack knowledge ask elated!

KnownUnknown:
Cancer does not depend on “not living right”. Breast cancer does not depend on “not living right”
Sickle cell anemia does not depend on “not living right”.
“Not living right” is a cop out. They all shorten life, are they sins or not?

Not knowing how to deal with having them can be considered sin.

Just yesterday I heard of an individual with sickle cell who left UK for Nigeria and died there of the sin of lack of proper medical care.

KnownUnknown:
Who are you to tell someone how much pain is bearable? Can you feel another person’s pain or know when it becomes unbearable?

And where did I tell anyone how much pain anyone should bear or not bear, Unknown?

KnownUnknown:
What the question wasn’t about the instigator. Both sides are at war and war shortens life, instigator or otherwise.

I've expressed my opinion. You hopefully don't mind me expressing it.

KnownUnknown:
Mankind has made significant strides from living in the wild and being wild but history bears witness to what I wrote.

And those "strides" are sufficient evidence of you being wrong, at least as far as I am concerned.

KnownUnknown:
Isn’t the whole purpose of the story is for them to kill the bugger?

How can the whole purpose of a story be for them to kill the bugger, Unknown, when the story itself is telling you the bugger was killed?

KnownUnknown:
What “sins” was he teaching them to overcome?

The sin of ignorance, which is the greatest of human sins.

KnownUnknown:
What was said in the story that was new and hadn’t been heard before?

Heard before by whom, Unknown, and not knew to whom?

Are you ignoring the millions around you to whom the story is so new that they don't even understand it yet?

KnownUnknown:
Besides, the lies have become the comfortable truth.

I don't quite know for whom you are claiming "the lies have become the comfortable truth".

I've hopefully left you in no doubt that lies are not the comfortable truth for me.

KnownUnknown:
Created in God’s image. What does that mean?
What is God? What is God’s image?

It means whatever you understand it to mean to you, Unknown. You've after all read what this God was supposed to be capable of doing before it created anything in its own image to go and do likewise.

As for what God may be, please read here my opinion here
https://www.nairaland.com/4357359/what-god

KnownUnknown:
Hey, you can’t tell. If you say this God created in its image, this could very well be a foolish design as far as “creation” is concerned. I mean God’s contemporaries could be laughing and pointing at God’s creation.

A foolish design that we read in Genesis 1 created the universe and all the things therein?

Then let me be foolish like that too please, for if I do a millionth of that I'd be very pleased with myself.

KnownUnknown:
Because you are not ignorant of knowledge like the naked drones in the story.

And that's because I daily consume fruits of knowledge, Unknown, or I would be ignorant too.

KnownUnknown:
Funny thing to say when your whole interpretation is based on the woman in the story using her “senses”. It’s like you are arguing against your own position now.

Have you considered it is you who does not understand my position here? I mean, though you and I have touched on this in the past, this really is the first time I recall when you've held me to task this much, so it's not as if you fully understand me yet.

Be patient. Give yourself time. You sound intelligent enough to understand what I mean, is my own opinion.

KnownUnknown:
How would you know to ask questions if you are ignorant and don’t know that one of the ways to procure knowledge is by asking questions?

Now, this is what causes me the most pain about this whole entire thing. The Nigerian education system does not teach one to ask questions, is what I find, whereby my own education started with who and what and why and where and when and how too.

I guess I never got placed naked in some Garden of Eden.

KnownUnknown:
You really can’t praise or denigrate Adam and Eve based on “knowledge”.

I can do whatever I want, Unknown, and very easily too since the story of Adam and Eve has a tree of knowledge in it already, and wisdom, and eyes opening too.

Go on. You try it and see if the heavens fall on your head. I assure you my own head is 'heaven fall on' proof.

KnownUnknown:
One, people have been deceived since time immemorial.

That is no reason to allow oneself to be deceived, or you would have joined them in their deception by now!

KnownUnknown:
Two, I think the deception is necessary because people are animals one step removed from the harshness of nature. I’ll rather they keep staring at the shadows in the cave.

I do not accept that "people are animals one step removed from the harshness of nature" because that is not what I have experienced.

You have been conversing with me awhile today and there's nothing yet to suggest to me that you are "people are animals one step removed from the harshness of nature", and I know I am not "people are animals one step removed from the harshness of nature". And I am not prepared to create some crappy unverified belief that "people are animals one step removed from the harshness of nature" because such a stupid belief would be untrue and would only self prophecy itself.

Please know that deception is not necessary for me. I would rather not be deceived, and I see no merit for myself in me deceiving others

KnownUnknown:
Three, you can fight the deception battles when needed but it’s a war that can only be lost.

Unknown. First please note that I have not asked you to join my army to fight in a war against deception that may likely be lost. Jesus fought this same deception and lost. We read that they killed the bugger, then they try to deceive many that he died for their sin, when anyone with eyes would see he was teaching people to overcome their sins. He is indeed the one who stepped out the cave and returned to teach those inside the cave only to have his head bashed in, the poor sod.

There are others we read about who fought wars against deception and did not lose. One should learn from them too and not only from Jesus Christ, especially if one really wants to successfully fight against ignorance and deception.

KnownUnknown:
Cancer can shorten life and suicide(because of unbearable pain from the cancer) can shorten life. Which one is a sin since you defined sin as anything that shortens life.

Cancer is an illness. It can be caused by not living right which I would call a sin. If I commit the sin (another word for which is error) of smoking, for instance, I may get throat cancer, or if I sit on my ass all day I might get cancer of the ass.

Suicide is the result of the sin of being weak and unable to bear pain, which can easily be overcome with knowledge that empowers one.

KnownUnknown:
War shortens life. Who is the sinner between the Russian and the Ukrainian?

It is my own opinion that Russia, the instigator, is the sinner here, but recognise opinions differ.