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Thehumanlloydl:
Well your type cant be set free from false doctrines which are even obvious enough and require no more than common sense,
Keep wallowing in the delusions that another man can be killed for your sins or even the sins of your unborn children.
The laws of nature states;
What you sow you shall reap!
Read the Parable of growing seed and you'll realize_ A corn seedling can't behold a mango tree!
A sin can never behold positive returns.

The commandments clearly states;
"Thou shall NOT kill"
Or is your God a liar? Will he create a commandment and do the exact opposite?
Maybe yours is.....

Again why the intercessory prayer;
"Father forgive them for they know NOT what they do"?
Or was jesus and the nature beings unaware of the main reason as you said *To die*?

Think and give perfect answers to my questions then I'll re-Adress your ignorance again!

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U keep repeating “Thou shall NOT kill"!!! Are u ok? Weren’t they all (even Moses himself) constantly waging wars and killing? Weren’t they killing all sorts of animals? Everyone knows “Kill” here obviously has limitations, you alone pretend not to know it.

I don’t think u know Christianity or the Bible well.
Isn’t it obvious that in the the intercessory prayer:
"Father forgive them for they know NOT what they do"?
Christ, who knew exactly what was going on, was asking God to forgive those executing him, who clearly knew not the implications of what they were doing.

Sin is different from sowing seed., where u reap what u so. There has always been something u could do (usually animal sacrifice) to have your sins forgiven

Thehumanlloydl:
Simple;
GOD sent his son to preach the word, the envious church leaders killed him and said; that was the prophecy?
The commandment clearly states "THou shall not kill"
So why do Christians justify such things?
(Hypocrites)

I think u may be a bit mixed up. Lord Jesus came primarily to DIE, to be killed, as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. All u need to do to be saved is accept him and acknowledge that he died for your sins

Authoreety:
Wickednesssss

Thank God for Christianity... if not eh......

Why couldn't the bloodsucking deity nd it's stupid priests that asked for the sacrifice, perform the magic without sacrificing a human?

How can I even unread this biko?

Strange we Christians have been asked similar: why couldn’t God have simply forgiven the sins of the world without the crucifixion of Lord Jesus. What would be your answer?

HappyCanadian:
Hey Guys,

So I had an appointment which made me come to school early today, after that I headed to my class, as I walked in tears dropped my eyes, the memories of how

Soooooo, how come they have higher suicide rate than Naija?... just asking

LibertyRep:
Joining hands to uplift the country is a task that must be considered by every patriot.

If you are in opposition and you think the best way to come to power is to demonize those holding the positions now with unwarranted propaganda, tactically supporting terrorism against the country and even refusing to lend a helping hand to the country in terms of security all in the bid to paint the current leaders bad, I have an advice for you
.... learn from the travails of the current power holders.

What goes around comes around but unfortunately, the country will suffer for it.

Happy Independence, NIGERIA.

A point comes when an entity should admit that the task before it is beyond it.
I suggest we lease the country to USA for 16 years to run it and develop it, then after that we decide if to let them continue and for how long

I think we should lease the country to USA for 15 years to run it and develop it, then we see how far after that and decide if to let them continue and for how long

Rapmoney:
Is Intelligence Inherited In A Family?

"An apple doesn't fall far from the tree" - English proverb.

I spent some years of my life teaching pupils/students at different times from Basic 1 to SS 3. Over these years, I was also able to meet with most of the parents of my pupils/students. One particular thing I observed was that pupils/students whose academic performances were very poor and who lacked the capacity to understand the various subjects taught, plus inability in exhibiting creativity, either had parents who were not 'averagely' intelligent or if they had one parent who happened to be intelligent, they didn't take after that parent; they took after the other in mentality and character.

Who determines the IQ of a child?
A mother's genetics determines how clever her children are, according to researchers, and the father makes no difference. Women are more likely to transmit intelligence genes to their children because they are carried on the X chromosome and women have two of these, while men only have one.Feb 2, 2017
https://www.independent.co.uk › news
Children inherit their intelligence from their mother not their father ...

immortalityk:
Don't ask questions about what doesn't concern u
An advice

It’s a legitimate question. Almost all of us believe there is only one God. Who worships these other “gods”?

Catchy tune. Good dance song. But Audio Money fits the times better and more meaningful

abdeiz:
So sorry about that. God would replenish your wealth soon IJN

So u just take her word for it. Don’t forget this is Nland - anybody can be anything and say anything

ONE ELELMENT OF DICTATORSHIP

nikkypearl:
weyrey ..Gay oshiii

LargeBreed:
fvcking fagggot

tohyorsih2:
Are you a gay

Maybe he is really female temporarily forgetting she is pretending to be a man on Nland - oops

Bruno3000:
Na wa o. What if I told u Judas was destined to betray his master Jesus? And Saul the prosecutor would end up a fierce apostle of Christ? Broaden ur thinking, see d bigger picture. No matter what u do or say the spiritual controls the physical. U can't help it. For a man cannot run away from his shadow.

Judas couldn’t have been TOTALLY destined to betray Lord Jesus or he’d have been TOTALLY absolved of guilt. Same with St. Paul - he could’ve chosen a different path. In any case these are one off extremely rare cases. Pre-destiny makes no sense in everyday life. We instinctively know we have free will, we know what we choose to do matters, which is why we don’t just sit and let destiny happen to us

Gideoniteprime4:
Na wa sha!
Na so e pain you reach?
Ok fine!
You know what?
Fine you're correct
Now have a nice day

I was always correct and u always knew it - only u too proud to admit it and move on. Let’s stay blessed

Gideoniteprime4:
Well i see you are high right now
Or maybe your village people is just shaking your pot
By your definitions it seems like you have a wrong orientation of life!
The last thing i wanna do on a sunday
Is argue with a confused fishbrain like you
Oh!
Happy sunday DUDE!

I am not high at all, DUDE. That’s why I am the one making sense while all u can do is make ad hominem attacks - the old “If I have no argument insult the other guy”

Bruno3000:
People have sex everyday Mr. Humans must have sex, its in their DNA. Forget chance, u were meant to exist, a power ensured that. Some of ur mate died in their mothers' wombs. They were not destined to be here with us.

If so why then do we penalize people for causing other people’s death? Why are lives saved when certain actions are taken? Why do u plan and hustle? - because u instinctively know that pre-destination is a lie. Point is your entire existence is pure chance. If one of your ancestors had had sex at a different time, a different person on would exist instead of you

The pastor does need help. There is something very wrong

gwarotango:
Those people who got shot were either enemy combatants or sympathisers. When the Nigerian army liberated Enugu and other ibo towns, no such incidents were recorded

Not according to this eye witness. They were waving Nigerian flags and chanting one Nigeria. Read the bolded:

Asaba Massacre: Seeking Healing 50 Years After

By Azuka Onwuka On Oct 6, 2017

It is not a good sight watching an adult fight tears. Even though the event happened 50 years ago, it was hard for Dr Ify Uraih to recount without being weighed down by emotions.

Like he testified in 2001 at the Nigerian Human Rights Violations Investigation Commission (popularly known as Oputa Panel), which was commissioned by President Olusegun Obasanjo and charged to consider the history of human rights abuses from 1966 to May 1999, Uraih, over the weekend at the palace of the Asagba of Asaba, recounted how he and his father and two brothers faced a hail of bullets on October 7, 1967 at the Ogbe-Osowa Square in Asaba, where they had gathered to welcome the federal troops during the Nigerian Civil War. He was lucky to escape but his father and brothers were not lucky.

The casualties were not soldiers or combatants. They were not caught by friendly fire or accidental discharge. They were gathered together and gunned down in what remains one of the most callous incidents of the Nigerian Civil War.

When the Nigerian troops pushed out the Biafran troops from the Midwestern Region during the war, the Biafran troops retreated across the River Niger and broke the Niger Bridge. The Second Division of the Nigerian Army, led by Lt. Col. Murtala Mohammed, entered Asaba on October 4, 1967.

Between October 4 and 6, there were reports that the Nigerian soldiers killed men and boys of Asaba, on the allegation that they were sympathetic to the Biafrans or collaborated with the Biafran soldiers. In a bid to stop these killings, the elders of Asaba decided to embark on a parade through Asaba streets on October 7, which would culminate at the Ogbe-Osowa Square, to pledge their support for “One Nigeria.” The towncrier went round the community to inform the people, to come out dressed in their traditional white attire called akwa ocha for the ceremony.

On that fateful day, the people trooped out, dressed in their traditional white Asaba attire, chanting “One Nigeria,” waving the Nigerian flag and pledging their loyalty to Nigeria.

At the town square, they were addressed by Major Ibrahim Taiwo, who tongue-lashed them and accused the people of Asaba of hiding Biafran soldiers and sympathising with the Biafran soldiers. He threatened to kill all of them. Soldiers mounted machine guns and automatic rifles around the square facing them. It looked like a joke to many of those gathered there.

Some Asaba men, including the father of Mrs Maryam Babangida, former First Lady, Mr Nwanonye Okogwu, spoke on behalf of the Asaba people, telling the soldiers that they were civilians who were not taking part in the war. The Asaba people requested that the civilian population be allowed to leave town, so that the soldiers could take care of those they were after.

The Nigerian soldiers asked that the crowd march around the town to ask all those who were inside to come out, so that anybody not at the square would be taken as a dissident. The men and boys were separated from the women. The men and boys were marched out. A few metres away, those who had returned from the North and therefore understood Hausa heard a soldier tell other soldiers to take them in little groups of 10 for elimination. Dr Uraih recalled that his elder brother resisted joining the first group of 10 people. He was shot in the back and killed. Some people wanted to flee but were gunned down. And so the guns began to boom as the men and boys were mowed down. Those who were mortally injured raised their hands and asked to be killed. They were obliged with bouts of gunfire.

Long after the shooting stopped and the soldiers left, leaving death and blood behind, the few lucky survivors and the injured dragged themselves out of the place of death. Uraih, who was about 15 years old then, survived but his father Mr Robert Uraih, and his two brothers, Emma and Paul, lay dead. The next day, he came back with a wheelbarrow to take away the bodies of his father and brothers for burial to avoid having them buried in mass graves or eaten by scavengers.

It is estimated that after the three-day killing of civilians in Asaba by the soldiers, over a thousand fell victim.
Asaba was left with widows and orphans. Almost every family lost a son or father. The only male survivors were those who had earlier fled Asaba before the arrival of the Nigerian troops or those who were too old or sick to come out to the square.

The strangest part of this massacre was that it was unprovoked and done in cold blood and in deceit. The victims had no inkling that such a fate awaited them. Who could imagine that people dressed in white, chanting their allegiance to One Nigeria would be gunned down by the same soldiers they were pledging allegiance to?

For decades, Asaba has lived with this horrific and traumatic experience in silence. Their story was swallowed by the events of the Nigerian Civil War, especially the starving children of Biafra. Most Nigerians have never heard of the fate that befell Asaba people on October 7, 1967. Ironically, those who led this massacre rose to become national heroes, with monuments named after them and beautiful tales told about them.

The Asaba people have decided to commemorate the 50th anniversary of this ugly incident in a way that will galvanise them towards rebirth and healing. Accordingly, the Asaba October 7 Memorial Group, led by Mr. Alban Ofili-Okonkwo, plans a four-day anniversary that will start on October 4 and end on October 8, with its theme as “Remembrance and Forgiveness”. The high points being the October 7 colloquium featuring Nobel laureate, Prof. Wole Soyinka, and Bishop Matthew Hassan Kukah as keynote speakers as well as the presentation of a book on the carnage entitled, The Asaba Massacre – Trauma, Memories, and the Nigerian Civil War, authored by renowned anthropologist, Prof. S. Elizabeth Bird and co-authored by historian, Prof. Fraser M. Ottanelli, both of the University of South Florida.

Ofili-Okonkwo emphasises that in the spirit of forgiveness and rebirth, a maternity and school of midwifery would be established at the spot where the people were massacred and it will be named The Place of My Birth Hospital. The hospital will serve everybody from all walks of life and from all parts of the nation and the world. This hospital will save life and bring forth life in a place where life was snuffed out.

The group believes that with the sensitisation and citizen engagement programmes, healing and closure would be achieved to signal the collective resolve of Asaba indigenes to leave behind the memories of their tragic past and walk resolutely into a more promising future.

Even though Asaba people have decided to forgive and move on, Nigeria has not been able to find a solution to its lack of respect for human lives. Because it has never taken any decisive step to punish those, especially government agents, who waste human lives, the impunity to kill at will has continued over the decades in different parts of the country, whether in Odi or Zaki-Biam. This lack of punishment for cold-blooded murder of civilians has emboldened more government agents to kill more civilians.

That those who murdered defenceless civilians in Asaba have never been reprimanded in life or in death, neither has Nigerian government acknowledged that its troops massacred its citizens without provocation is a dent on Nigeria’s image.

Bruno3000:
How do I begin now... First of all, there's no such thing as luck, or chance. A power must work for u or y achieve nothing. That's a summary

It is entirely pure chance that u exist. If any one of your ancestors didn’t have sex exactly when they did, someone else would exist instead of u

stonemasonn:
are you from Anambra?

R u a free mason?

Gideoniteprime4:
Dude am not understanding you?
Will you not have qualities such as holiness,courage,sainthood and last a sense of responsibility before been worthy of taking the position of a pastor?
Please stop commenting on things you have no idea of.
It will take you a long way if you heed to the above advice!
Good night dude

That’s why u always get fooled by titles, DUDE. That a pastor SHOULD have all those qualities does not mean all do. They r pastors because they lead a church. Nothing else, DUDE

eightsin:
I never get tired of Mario Puzo. You will always find knowledge

I also like these:

Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment.

Friendship and money: oil and water.

Never get angry. Never make a threat. Reason with people.

Like many businessmen of genius he learned that free competition was wasteful, monopoly efficient. And so he simply set about achieving that efficient monopoly.

festacman:
Double crossing his godfather was the best thing God used Ngige to do for Anambra people. Without that, Anambra would have been worse than Abia State today. Godfathers usually take Anambra State money from SOURCE i.e. CBN before Ngige betrayed them for the good of Anambra State.

Except, he didn’t do it for Anambra people. The political landscape is littered with politicians who did same - they do it because of power, not out of any public altruism. Politicians, once in power, hate answering to some godfather

Gideoniteprime4:
uhhhggg
i guess i have to be the mature one here



ok fine you are very correct
``a pastor is someone in charge of a church. It doesn’t mean he can’t also be a wife beater``
are you happy now ?

U have no choice. U misunderstood pastor to mean saint or holy

gwarotango:
Actually I am 'trueing' until you provide evidence of such a genocide taking place

So what do u call the above write-up from Vanguard? They called it massacre, are they lying

PaChukwudi44:
God punish the stupid and evil Murtala Mohammed.He supervised the worst incidence of war crimes carried out on Nigerian soil.

Roast in Hell Gen Murtala Mohammed
Roast in hell the butcher of Asaba.
God bless Lt Col BS Dimka

Also Ibrahim Taiwo to a lesser extent

Politics / Revisiting The Asaba Massacre--- Vanguard by KingsleyJohn: 9:07am On Oct 29, 2016

“I looked around and I saw machine guns all around us. Some of them were also carrying automatic rifles. One of them shouted an order, and they started shooting.”

With these chilling words, Ify Uraih describes how the massacre of hundreds of innocent civilians began in asaba more than 40 years ago. Here we document how this terrible event unfolded, why it is important, and why the people of asaba now demand recognition. It started on October 4, 1967, when Nigerian federal troops entered asaba, the Niger River town that was then part of Nigeria’s Midwest Region. the war over the secession of the predominantly-Igbo Eastern Region, renamed Biafra, had broken out in July; in August, the Biafran army had advanced across the Niger Bridge and progressed through the Midwest, headed for Lagos. Federal troops counter-attacked, pushing the Biafrans back across the Niger at asaba. the Biafrans blew up the Onitsha end of the bridge, leaving the Federal Second Division, commanded by Col. Murtala Muhammed, on the asaba side. asaba, although ethnically related to the Eastern Igbo, remained part of Nigeria, and supported the government’s ideal of a multi-ethnic “One Nigeria.” As Wole Soyinka wrote in 1972, the Midwestern Igbo, caught between their desire to remain part of the federation and their identity with Eastern cousins, became “the most vulnerable Nigerians.” asaba had a long tradition of high education, producing a disproportionate number of professionals and high-ranking civil servants, who had contributed to a sense of allegiance to a united Nigeria, and trust that Federal troops would behave appropriately. Head of State, Gen. Yakubu Gowon, had issued a military Code of Conduct, so when troops arrived, the townsfolk were unprepared for what followed.

Soldiers occupied the town, and began killing civilians (mainly boys and young men) accused of Biafran collaboration... “we got to the police station and there was a huge crowd. And then they would come around and they would say do you know Mr. X, Mr. B, and do you know his house? They had names they wanted to kill. And once in a while they’d pick someone from the crowd, go to the back and you hear gunshots. And the crowd would wail.” Patience Chukwura, a young mother expecting her fourth child, saw her husband Eddie gunned down near the police station, along with his brother, Christian: “That made me hysterical. I held onto the soldier and said, ‘Why did you kill my husband?’ the man, with the butt of the gun, hit me on the chest and said, ‘woman, if you’re not careful, you’ll get killed as well.’ We feared they were going to wipe out everybody in asaba, especially male children.” Troops invaded homes, demanding money, executing men and boys, and abducting women, often before setting the houses ablaze. the streets were littered with corpses. Patrick Okonkwo recalled that his compound was crowded with extended family members, when soldiers entered and shot his two brothers, a cousin, and two other relatives. His father buried them in shallow graves in the compound. On October 7, in hopes of avoiding more violence, asaba leaders summoned everyone to gather to show support to the troops by making a pledge to One Nigeria. Hundreds of men, women, and children assembled, dancing and singing. According to survivors, as the parade reached a major junction, troops removed women and young children, and directed men and boys into an open area.

s the crowd began to realize what might be happening, panic grew, as Peter Okonjo explained: “Women who came with their sons were removing their skirts and blouses to disguise them. And I looked at the whole place, there is nowhere to escape.” Ify Uraih was 13 years old, and had joined the parade with his brothers and father. He described how the officer in charge, identified by several witnesses as Ibrahim Taiwo, gave the order to open fire, and the massacre began: “Some people broke loose and tried to run away. They shot my brother in the back. the rest of us just fell down on top of each other. And they continued shooting, and shooting, and shooting. I don’t know how long it took; after some time there was silence.” Hundreds died; survivors report climbing from among heaps of bodies when the soldiers finally left hours later. Ify Uraih survived, but his father, Robert, and brothers Emma and Paul were dead. His brother Medua was shot multiple times, but survived. Between 500 and 800 were murdered, in addition to many from previous days, and many people fled the town. Although there is no firm death count, our research suggests that more than 1,000 died at the hands of the troops during October. Most were buried in mass graves, without observing requisite practices, and the town was destroyed, with most of the houses looted and burned. the long-term impacts of these tragic events were profound; many extended families lost multiple breadwinners, and the town’s leadership was decimated. Survivor accounts and reports by relief agencies show that asaba remained in dire straits until the war’s end, most inhabitants having fled or subsisting in refugee camps. Soldiers assaulted and abducted women and girls with impunity. the destruction was so complete that asaba disappeared from the official roll of Nigerian towns in 1969. the atrocities at asaba remained virtually absent from the published record, and have largely remained unacknowledged.
Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/revisiting-1967-asaba-massacre/

eightsin:
LOL

Tom, don't let anybody kid you. It's all personal, every bit of business... And you know something? Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult.

Mario Puzo

festacman:
Not a bad joke. Bayelsa needs a stubborn man who will call the bluff of the entrenched interests and kick off an era of using Bayelsa money to develop Bayelsa.

Ngige double crossed his godfather on their sworn agreement. That’s all. Does not equate anything u said

Gideoniteprime4:
english dude relax na
its just like saying that a doctor should not be called a doctor if he fails to save lives!
abi they tell you say i nor know the meaning of pastor?
abi you just wan tell us say you study linguistics for school?
please stop behaving like you are surrounded by illiterates
if you too know english then you should not be here posting unwanted things rather you should be busy with something call a
JOB

A pastor is someone in charge of a church. Simple. It doesn’t mean he can’t also be a wife beater

ednut1:
This lunatic fake usa journalist . Your madness took you to jail

This Toyin whoever deserves accolades if this is true. She should be celebrated and encouraged to repeat

Suicide? Think we’ll o. I’ve heard people say they’d rather kill themselves than commit suicide

festacman:
Thousands of people depend on government treasury as means of livelihood. It is difficult unless somebody shows up to at least alter the narratives in favour of development like Chris Ngige did in Anambra State.

Lol. “Like Chris Ngige did in Anambra State”. Hehehe. Bad joke