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Basic123:
What is this one saying? 😆

What I think he is saying in an unfortunately uncouth manner is that sometime in history Benin was conquered by the yorubas. Therefore the Benin royalty has Yoruba heritage but the people of Benin do not originate from Ife. Just like the royalty of Ilorin are Fulani but the people are Yoruba or the northern Kings are all Fulani the people are Hausa. His version makes a lot of sense , his delivery is unfortunate.

What he is saying is that although historically Britain colonized Nigeria and the Queen of a Britain was at one time the Queen of Nigeria the people of Nigeria are not historically from Britain.

adedayoa2:
Does the hero beer company belong to Peter Obi or Anambra state? Forgive my ignorance; I simply need to be clear on this matter.

Obi bought shares in the company for himself as well as the government.

Omoboricash:
The route they are taking to desire destination can never yield positive result. Not by abusing or cursing who ever not in agreement with your preffered candidate or ideology. They have a long way to go

We know that but they never seem to learn. You try something for over 60 years and it has never worked but you continue along that path. The other day one of their ex governors said they created Lagos, Abuja, port harcourt and Kano. They don’t know how their utterances rub people the wrong way. No apology no nothing…they will come looking for ibo presidency and will vex with everybody when they lose instead of examining their own behavior.

yoruboid:
How come none of those that ever worked with Obi as commissioners, permanent secretaries, politicians etc aren’t publicly in support of his ambition unlike PBAT that has everyone that ever worked closely with him sticking out their necks for him

That should tell you something

Thank you o! It’s as if the man worked for 8 years alone. How can you be a governor for 8 years and we don’t know anybody that was part of your team?

Agbadorian:
Just the way Tinubu is handling Nigeria now Abi 😂

Tinubu is doing what needs to be done after decades of weak leaders. Your obvious lack of intelligence (you need to lack intelligence to be an Obidient) means you cant see beyond your nose. Obi does not have the balls to do what Tinubu is doing hence things would have become a lot worse.

Omoboricash:
PO claiming what he's not is very annoyimg. He's a fraud. It's just unfortunate people that were criticising him during his tenure as a governor now praise singing his name.

they know what they are doing, they want an ibo president at any cost. Their agenda is all about tribe...hence they are the only region will 99% vote to any candidate and by any candidate. What is unfortunate are the naive youth and woke christians especially in the Sw and NC who allowed themselves to be deceived without examining the mans track record.

he would have been the worst president in Nigeria's history and Nigeria would be on Venezuala level by now.

Elzazzi:


All Reno omockery posts everyday on his Facebook wall is Peter obi.

Thats why Obi can never be president. There are too many PDP supporters who will never forgive him for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. PDP lost the election because Obi left and they know once Tinubu enters, he will do his 8 years complete!

sometimes in life, you acquire a reputation and an exhaltation that you have never really earned nor deserve. A wise man will know he doesnt deserve it but will milk the applause quietly and not do more than himself. An unwise man will decide to capitalize on the hype that he knows full well doesnt deserve, add to the hype he and go into politics, especially national politics.

That is the biggest mistake he could ever make because in politics they will tell you all your mother's ex boyfriends. Thats the day you will find out you arent actually the biological son of your father.

By the time national politics finished is with Obi, he will curse the day he attended The platform and allowed his head to swell. Everyday they are opening his yansh.

It is obvious the man has no sense. if he did he would know there is zero possibility of him becoming Nigeria's president and if his father had any sense, he would have agreed to be VP to Atiku because that is the only way he would ever see ASO rock. When you start to beleive your own hype, the smal sense you have goes away. The more he talks the more he exposes his empty brain.

it is one thing to prevent Tinubu from getting to the presidency...they tried but having become president, he cant be unseated and after that its the turn of the North. if we are voting for Ibo president it is not Obi we are voting for when there are the like of David Umahi.

OGD on the ballot as what?

he can apply to be an Obidient...he is overqualified. Most of them will not get that score in JAMB.

The US should STFU. As if we are not seeing the persecution of Trump to keep him from contesting against the geriatric Biden.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Professor Nwoke Friday Chijioke

The Prof is right though. I have said it in a previous post that right from his senate clearance I had already lost faith in this EFCC chairman. He is not up to the job if you ask me. Very unprofessional and it was evident if you saw his confirmation hearing.

Reloadedisraelp:
not making sense

You need to have sense 1st.

After one propagandist and outright liar @gossipninja spenta whole 1st page of a thread trying to deceive people with fake pictures of schools that he claimed Obi built.

The man has said himself he did t build any school.

If it didn’t dey it didn’t dey. Obi is a tribal project by the Ibos. Even they know the man was a complete failure. It’s the naive non-Ibo youth that were fooled.

https://www.nairaland.com/8071392/schools-peter-obi-built-over

he should shut up and show some competence. This is the problem with EFCC. prosecute looters for which they were set up, they will always fumble, instead they run after people spraying money and low level yahoo boys. Bunch of incompetent clowns. It is not about ego or boasting but being competent and following the rule of law. that is why they lose most of their cases.

I knew from his confirmation at the senate that this guy is not up to the job.

If this woman understood her mandate and was not just seeking relevance and publicity, she would know this is not her business. This falls under primarily the ministry of education and/or the minister of the FCT. Nothing concerns her. She should face her job… we dont know what she does other than to make a fool of herself and embarrass the govt everywhere.

If she had any common sense and was sincere, she would have used her influence to prompt the relevant authorities into action not seek to grab the headlines.

Villa12:
who told you Nigerians don't pay tax? Like seriously we don't pay tax? How are they paying Tinubu and other political officers if not tax payers money? Are they not our employees? I don't understand the tax that Nigerians do not pay. We pay tax directly and indirectly and our corrupt leaders embezzled the money within themselves and families. Every working class Nigerians pay tax, every business person pay tax, drivers and conductors pay tax, we pay for electricity but we don't have light, we pay for transformer, we pay and hire security in our community, we dug our borehole ourselves. I don't understand the tax Nigerians aren't paying o.

Germany with over 90million population has free education for all and sundry including international students. India, Argentina, Kenya an African nation all had free education for their citizens. Norway had free education but recently stopped it for international students except those going for PhD.

I am not justifying paying peanuts for tuition fee with dilapidated and outdated syllabus. I am only concern at your manner of approach. Why must you exonerate the corrupt leaders God has bestowed with us at the detriment of the masses? I'm sure you know most Nigerian parents cannot afford 500k tuition fee and that isn't far-fetched from the corrupt leaders we have. Imagine ordinary food is now a luxury in Nigeria where APC labrat are always praising their paymaster for taking bag of rice to 50k that is how low Nigerians had degenerated. Your leaders cannot be living large with tax payers money while the masses find the difficult to feed.

Students loan obviously will not go round and those who are lucky to have it might find it difficult to pay back because of unemployment rate in the country.

First of all our tax rates are one of the lowest in the world. Secondly even at this relatively modest level, most do not pay. Thirdly, you are not very bright. Fourth, you have a sense of entitlement. University education is not a right, it is a privilege…basic education is your right not university education.


I stoped reading your post after the 1st few sentences. I am done engaging you and have told you before to carry on advocating for your cheap education and let it take you where it takes you. The rest of us who know, understand and value good education will find the money to send our children to good schools whatever it takes because we know apart from a good name that is the only true legacy of a parent to a child. In Yoruba land we say “Abo oro l’on so fun omoluabi”. …..you only need to speak half a word to a reasonable and discerning person. I have explained and explained to you how just like fuel and electricity subsidies, cheap education is an illusion and penny wise, pound foolish but you are still there displaying the understanding of a jackass!!!

Back in the day pre independence people sold their properties to send their children to universities. It wasn’t free, many went to night school e.g Afe Babalola, many sold properties like Nwodo, others went into business to make money to go to school eg Abiola and Awolowo. It is only because of the skills shortage of independence that necessitated free/cheap University education. It is no longer sustainable. We have more graduates than we have jobs and the best jobs are not gained via a university degree. We have no business subsidizing universities.

Good bye and good riddance!

Villa12:
I There are countries that has free education upto PhD level with robust economy, where all and sundry are gainfully employed with descent take home . Those countries do they originate from the Mars? Who told you paying millions in Nigeria tertiary institution will automatically translate to jobs creation and end unemployment with good pay? Have you asked yourself where would Nigerian parents get these money? The same country that top the ladder of poverty? A country with over 230 million population but less than 5% of the population can boast of 500k. A country with 30k minimum wage while some state government are still paying 18k minimum wage in 2024. Nigeria doesn't come close to top 10 country in Africa with reasonable minimum wage. You can't compare US, Canada, UK, Australia to Nigeria because they pay high tuition fee. These same countries pay over #2.5 million as minimum wage equivalent to our currency. What is the take home of their leaders compare to yours? How is their standard of living, healthcare, education, infrastructure, welfare et al compare to yours?

I hope you know not all students will have access to the so called loan? What would be the fate of others? Dropout? Those that have access to the loan how would they pay back? We all know there's no job in Nigeria.

The countries you cite, how much tax do the citizens pay? You dont pay taxes and you want free university education?

I have already said, education is not free. You either pay in fees or you pay in taxes. But as you are a product of cheap education, you read but do not understand. I challenge you to name one country with a population higher than 30m with high quality free university education where the tax rates and compliance rates are as low as Nigeria’s. The countries you mention, examine their tax rates, they are as high as 50%.

You don’t pay taxes, you don’t pay fees but you want good free or cheap education? Where is the money for good quality lecturers and facilities going to come from?

benjaminlawson:
You better stop this premitive argument, those people that are imposing this high fees, how much did they pay in their own time, was education not better than what we have now with high fees?

In their own time there were less than 10,000 students in total in all Nigerian universities. Today there are over 2 million. In their time there was an acute skills shortage post independence, today there is a surplus.

Go to the UK and make the same argument. universities were once free in the UK, not only free but you were paid £1,000 a term. Now tuition in the Uk is north of £10k a yr.

Look I am not going to argue with you lot. Continue with your substandard low fee university education. You get what you pay for, what you see at the end of your free or cheap education is your problem.

A Nigerian degree today is no more than a glorified school certificate for 90% of Nigerian graduates.

There is a girl who does POS near my office. She is a graduate from one mushroom state university. That is what you get for your cheap tuition. You will never see someone who paid millions for university tuition as a POS operator.

The 1st benefit of a good degree is that your mentality and mindset is different. Your opportunities are different, your contacts are different. Like I said elsewhere, if you are in a school where the children of the elite are not present, you are not in a good school. Children of the elite do not send their children to N45k public universities “elite” does not mean rich!

Look at the CEOs, of top companies, Banks top civil servants. politicians etc, they all know each other because they all went to the same schools and universities. That’s why their children get the best opportunities. This happened because back in the day children of the rich and poor went to the same schools. So even the child of the poor could get the contacts and break into the circle. Children of Nigeria’s President, Vice President, ministers, governors, corporate titans etc sat alongside children of bricklayers in our public schools and universities.

But people like you started necessary protesting fee increases and the elite (knowing the value of good education being recipients themselves) started withdrawing their children from these public schools. So now these schools are only attended by children of the poor. They get substandard education and are not able to acquire valuable life long contacts and connections. Furthermore because o children of important people attend these universities, nobody cares about the standards. The end result is they remain permanently underclass despite supposedly having degrees.

The problem with the masses is they think poor. In the end they pay the price ( we all do but the masses pay a higher price). Same thing with fuel subsidy, electricity and education. We protested fuel and electricity subsidy removal to the point where there are no roads or mass transport like rail, we resisted electricity subsidy removal to the point there is no electricity and you pay more for diesel and petrol generators and now you resisted fee hikes to the point where the education you get has no value.

In the last election every candidate agreed fuel subsidies must go because we all finally realized after years of subsidies there are no roads to enjoy the subsidies because we spent the money for roads on subsidies. Like fuel and electricity subsidies, when you realize that the education you are getting is worthless, nobody will beg you to ask for fees to reflect the true cost of good education. Eventually you will all realize that even N450k is too cheap if you really want good degrees. Eventually you will realize university is not for everyone.

Villa12:
direct that question to your corrupt leaders that has stolen the future of Nigerians up to their unborn kids. They're in the better position to answer that question not you and i.

A dimwits is better than a Nitwits and a fool that always asslick and exonerate corrupt leaders thereby, putting all blames on the masses.

You are deflecting from the point. How many of the 400,000 graduates that we produce every year do you know, talk less of how many do you know that have decent jobs? The majority are drivers, sales girls and boys, receptionists, bank tellers or unemployed because they are graduates with degrees that have no value in the market place.


Continue with your emotional arguments just like you did with fuel subsidy and electricity subsidy. Fuel subsidy gave you bad roads, electricity subsidy gave you no electricity and university subsidy has given you bad unemployable graduates.

FACT:
1) you pay peanuts, you get peanuts.
2) Education is not free. You either pay in form of taxes or you pay in form of fees. The more taxes or fees you pay the better your education and the less the poorer your education.


You want to go to Lagos from Abuja and you get on a bus to Kano and we are telling you this bus will never take you to Lagos. Instead you start to argue and curse. When you finish arguing and cursing everybody. Your situation and the fact stil remains the same….the bus you entered is going to Kano not Lagos! If you like you get off the bus now, if you like you wait till you get to Kano. Abuse everybody and their father, Either way that bus is not taking you to Lagos!! So if you like think those who are paying huge fees are fools, after 4 years in University you will realize all your 45k university tuition can get you is a 45k job, if you are lucky.

Keep arguing with yourself.

Villa12:
you're not only being emotional but hyperventilating. You're absolutely wrong @bolded. There are tons of graduates that paid much more ess than that amount that i personally know and heard series of stories and today, they're working in good places in Nigeria and outside the country. Those with good solid results got full/partial funding scholarship to US, Canada, UK, Australia et al for their masters and PhD and today they're all doing pretty fine helping their families and loved ones. Yes, the same cheap or almost free education that you claimed is worthless. Mind you, all these are not only attributed to medical field, they cut across all fields. If you know where that cheap education had taken Nigerians to in life, you wouldn't put up that statements. There are countries with free tuition fee. What about that?

You cannot put the blame on the masses and exonerate your corrupt leaders. Like i told you what is the minimum wage of those countries paying huge compare to ours? Even a toddler in Nigeria knows that they don't have leaders. When Nigerians are ready they will do the needful starting from that outdated Constitution we're using. You see those political offices starting from the presidency to the least will be on part time basis and will attract peanut pay just like they place Nigerians on meagre minimum wage. Let those who truly want to serve get there and they can only do one term. Any political office holder found wanting of stealing will be killed immediately. Do this for just ten years and watch if sanity will not be restored back to Nigeria.

Nigeria produces 400,000 graduates every year. How many do you know that got good jobs?

Look my friend continue to pay N45k. I don’t have time to argue with dimwits.

Whatever you see you see.

Villa12:
LoL

Too cheap in a country with 30k minimum wage? Too cheap in a country with high rate of unemployment? Too cheap in a country that top the ladder of poverty? Too cheap in a country whose leaders top the ladder of highest paid in the world? Too cheap in a country whose citizens cannot afford to feed? Too cheap in a country with poor power supply? Too cheap in a country with corrupt leaders? I can always go on and on

Like I said it is too cheap. You are straying off topic making emotional arguments. That’s why we are producing graduates are unemployable. No point going to university to get a degree that has no value. If you cannot afford it, go and learn a vocation.

You may not like what I am saying but I am speaking the truth. Most of the students with degrees from 50k -100k universities will never ever get a job with those degrees because most are worthless.

If your university charges cheap fees, they can’t afford the best or even good lecturers, if they can’t employ the best lecturers, they cannot give the best teaching to the students l. If students are not taught by good lecturers, they can’t get good degrees.

If you want to discuss how someone on 30k can afford university fees in the millions, that is a seperate subject. But if you are playing cheap fees you are getting worthless degrees. Some universities charge N50m a year or more for tuition and you think you are getting the same quality of education for your N100k? You think the people paying N50m a year abroad are fools? You are the same ones that will complain that they get the best jobs. I am not saying fees in public universities should be N50m but ideally no good university in Nigeria private or public should charge less that 2-5m.

God1000:
This is too much, many families cannot afford it, people are struggling to eat and our universities are busy increasing school fees

If you think 450,000 is too much for fees, you don’t deserve university education.

University is not for everybody, it is for those who know the value and won’t waste their time there.

People who know the value of a good degree from a good university know N450,000 is too cheap.

Yorubaponu:
Shut up , We Yoruba want our own Country

You are so insecure you disguise as other tribes

Yorubaponu:
Yoruba are born slave , don’t say it outside o

We know your tactics. Everybody knows you are the masters of propaganda and spreading falsehoods.

alanto:
Obidients just dey avoid the thread. Ibos hate anything Dangote but they want people to fly Air Peace. Lol

We will fly Air peace because flying Air Peace is good for Nigeria but we will remember them when it is time for elections.

PressMyButton:
Yoruba nation, Ipob, are in hot soup.

again, you see the difference between ibos and Yoruba. Wheras ibos, their elders their elites are all cowering to Kanu, elevating him to the status of the defacto leader of the Ibos, yorubas are quick to dissociate themselves from these clowns and say unequivocally not in our name.

Tomorrow ibos will say they want to be, in fact demand that it is their turn to be the president of a country whose secession from they directly or indirectly endorse.

zoraro:
You still are not getting the point. Let me educate you, then. The point is that, there are no stupid or dumb questions and besides, you might get a new insight to a question when you see other people's answer. You get?
Also, a wrong answer could be a clue to getting the right answer for an informed person. I am not sure if that will make sense to an ITK (I too know) person, though.

you are clearly dumb and do not know the difference or the point.

You are asking a factual question not for opinions. There is a place to get a factual answer…the source.

You ask a question that requires a factual answer from a pool made up of largely uninformed people you will get what you deserve.

That you don’t know the difference and continue to argue shows which category of nairalanders you belong….the dumb 95%!!

The difference between the Yorubas and the Ibos is that the Yorubas have come out to say unequivocally “not in our name”….you are on your own. Yorubas have said you don’t speak for us. Even if there is desire for secession (there isn’t one), we refuse to be led by a miscreant and won’t even allow the thought that she speaks for or represents Yorubas to fester for a minute.

Whereas the Ibos have allowed themselves to be led by an imbecil3 to the point where all their leaders defer to him, visit him to pay solidarity and homage and effectively turned him into a demi god.. That’s why it is difficult to have an Ibo president. It is one thing to cal for restructuring, it’s another to call for secession. You can’t support secession and then tommorow want to be president and think others will vote for you. This is simple common sense that somehow seems to elude our brothers from the east.

I don’t know why we feel that you must sponsor a bill as a senator. That’s not the only job of a senator. This is what leads to frivolous laws and the creation of multiple overlapping agencies.

zoraro:
Your mindset is totally wrong. Is nairaland not a part of the internet, go to websites like quora and reddit, etc. they ask even more ridiculous questions there and answers are given.

1.Nairaland is full of dumb or equally ignorant people (95%)
2. The effort made in asking dumb people by the equally dumb is better spent visiting the appropriate disco’s website or the NERC website.
3.like I said, Nairaland is full of dumb people. The kind of people that ask dumb people for things they can find out themselves.

The point is as a supposedly educated person, your first point of call if you require official information is the official source itself. If you do not know that, then your education has been a waste because the purpose of education is to train you to think.

Your point that it is okay to ask a pool of dumb people on the internet questions because somewhere among them you may get the correct answer is a very dumb concept. Why? Because you don’t know how accurate the info you are getting is. Why not use your education and what little initiative you have and go to the source of authentic information?

You are not asking for opinions like marital advice etc, you are asking for factual information from a bunch of largely uninformed people? Does that make sense to you?