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Kennydoc:
Is it Tinubu or Atiku that would have got a massive support in Kenya? Tinubu will probably be stoned then.

This is the problem with the Nigerian. He diverts the argument instead of acknowledging.

In a sane country none of them would be contesting for the presidency and to be clear none of them is the messiah. For us in Nigeria it is a case of who is the least bad. IMHO Peter Obi is the worst of the 3!

Excelxpress:
I have been following this forum since 2020 and I refused to open a profile here but reading this LIE. I was forced to join this forum so I can reply this post .


With all due respect which Kenya are you talking about here ? Like Kenya in east Africa? I have LIVED AND WORKED IN KENYA so I can tell you that this thing you wrote now is a big lie

Kenyans are NOT LITERATE AND EDUCATED MORE THAN NIGERIANS

Enjoy the rest of your day sir / madam

My friend this is the problem with Nigerians, they talk based on emotion not on facts. The difference between a properly educated man and a charlatan is you dont give out figures you cannot verify. When you have been properly educated you learn this in school to verify your facts. Again you are merely a sysmptom of the poor education in Nigeria on all levels.

Nigerians are intellectually lazy, it is a result of the poor education system. if you were propery educated you would have verified before you replied. The irony of the Nigerian is that he hears something he doesnt like and ends up argoung against himself. Your response has just proved my point and the stats.


As you can see below they have ALWAYS been more literate than us. Perhaps your misplaced arrogance as “giant of Africa” got the better of you while you were in Kenya…..that or the poor quality of your education in Nigeria as displayed here!

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NGA/nigeria/literacy-rate

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1233484/adult-literacy-rate-in-kenya/

these same free speech proponents asking for twitter to ban someone else.

ojasans:
That was exactly what they said to the Kenyan President elect. Underestimate Labour Party and lose the election in 2023

do not compare yourselves to kenyans, Kenyans are far more literate and educated than Nigerians. Kenya has a literacy rate of 83% in Nigeria it is 60%. Digest that for a second, 4 out of 5 Kenyans is literate, 3 out of every 5 Nigerians is literate i.e 2 out of every 5 Nigerians is an iliterate, statistically if you round up that is closer to 1 out of every 2 Nigerians being an iliterate!!!......and when you talk about literacy what is the quality of the literacy? Kenya doesnt fund Universities they focus their spending on secondary and primary education. The result is that not only is the foundation and quality of their basic education better, anybody who goes to University in kenya pays for his own education and therefore is more focused and comes out with a better degree unlike Nigeria where from primary to University the quality is dodgy because the money is not enough to provide good education at any level.

The result is kenyans are more likely to be intellectual in their thought process than Nigerians. kenmyans are more likely to be focussed on the real issues unlike Nigerians simply because we Nigerians are poorly educated and hence more likely to be moved by emotion tribe/religion than reason and critical thinking. So dont use Kenya as an example. Intruth if it were Kenya they would probably be asking what are peter Obi's past credentials, why did he spend decades importing kethcup and mayonaise when he could have established farms to plant tomatoes, eggs and vegetable oil and manufacturing plants to make ketchup and mayonaise in Nigeria, thus providing jobs in Nigeria instead of abroad.

Honestly, Peter Obi is lucky he is not contesting in Kenya, the kind of support he is getting in Nigeria especially from so called educated people and youth, he wont get in kenya, they are too educated and enlightened for that. He is lucky that the predominant factors in Nigeria are illiteracy, products of a poor education system, religion and tribal sentiments.

Gbeng30:
Nigeria is not keyan, don't bring up an invisible comparism here... If you want to win election here, you will work seriously and spend money not just to electorate but to some cabals who have the keys to the padlock of this country... But however as long as there is God there is miracle...

to begin with kenya has a better educated population than Nigeria

[quote author= post=115745974]Obi is coming[/quote]you have a "life time passion to make Nigeria the pride of the world" but you spent your lifetime making money trading and importing basic consumer products like heinz ketchup and mayonaise creating production jobs abroad and you didnt think to set up farms and a factory to convert tomatoes eggs, vegetable oil to ketchup and mayonaise and provide jobs?

time for election now you are shouting "consumption to production"....you didnt know that one before?

[quote author= post=115745959]I followed Kenya electioneering campaign from the start. This Ruto is just the replica of Peter Obi.He had loggerheads with the president and decamped from the ruling party to a less popular party.The youth took it upon themselves,campaigned vigorously online and offline. They called him online president too.Today he has emerged against the notorious cabals and against all odds.

Congrats dear Ruto- The Obi of Kenya

Congrats to Kenyan youths

Here in Nigeria,on Obi's mandate we shall all stand...

The doubting camps should doubt no more. Africa must be liberated from old cabals and crooks..

It's P-O-ssible!
We moove!![/quote]Your agenda is not the liberation of Nigeria, you have said it time and time again, your agenda is an Ibo president. Nigeria is not Kenya.

Future mistresses, side chicks and baby mama pageant

Emir01:
Which faction of Afenifere pls? Awa gangan lafenifere. Let their spokesman come out and endorse him
BAT 2023.

Does it matter? Do any of the factions have followers?

Afenifere is just a platform for old guard SW politicians retired by Obasanjo and Tinubu in 2003 to feel relevant.

Fira09:
2023: I’ll never vote for APC, PDP – Mr Macaroni



https://dailypost.ng/2022/08/15/2023-ill-never-vote-for-apc-pdp-mr-macaroni/

It is the naivety of youth worrying him and his fellow travelers. They don’t realize that change for change sake can actually put you in a worse position than you were. In many ways we are witnessing it now.

Whoever he plans to vote for was formerly in PDP or APC.

Youths cannot effect change voting for old wine in new skin, if youth really want to change, they should form their own party and elect youths into parliament and other positions. Rebelling for rebelling sake without engaging the brain is not uncommon with the youth.

dawnomike:
The bust up on the sidelines added intensity to the match ... But that Conte is petty no be small

Short men are like that

“ Every dispassionate Nigerian knows that the practice of organ harvest has over the years become a Nigerian provenance and of course it is not viewed as unlawful so long as there is a mutual agreement between the parties involved.”….ohaneze

I don’t believe these people just said this in an official statement!!!!! Soon they will start to say drug trafficking is an acceptable practice!!!

neveaho:
See the level of tribalism a governor is displaying. What a shame.

How Peter Obi abetted and caused killings, illegal evictions of northerners in Anambra – Malam Umar Dan Kano https://podiumreporters.com/index.php/2022/08/14/how-peter-obi-abetted-and-caused-killings-illegal-evictions-of-northerners-in-anambra-malam-umar-dan-kano/

“The sordid details of Peter Obi’s alleged infamous role in the 2006 ethnic attacks that led to the killings of several northerners in Onitsha, Anambra State, where the Labour Party presidential candidate served as Governor at different spells between 2006 and 2014, and other alleged discriminatory policies against non-Igbos have been brought to light by a northerner who questioned the moral basis of his appeal for votes from the region.

The allegations, reportedly made by Malam Umar Dan Kano, were published on Twitter by Ibrahim Shehu who tweets from the handle @magmal11.

According to the thread titled “PETER OBI, THE NORTH AWAITS YOUR AUGUST VISIT”, Peter Obi emerged as Governor barely a month after the February killings of northerners and destruction of their businesses in Onitsha.

He claimed that then Governor Obi, upon visiting the town, was approached by the northern community for sympathy and protection but he cruelly dismissed their appeal, asking them “to go and tell your people to also stop killing our people in the north.”

He said: “I could remember that Peter Obi came to power on the 17th March 2006 while the famous Onitsha crisis, which led to the killings of Northerners, occurred on the 21st and 22nd of February 2006. That was almost a month gap.”

“Our first meeting with Obi also coincided with his first visit to the town; all arrangements were done to receive the first citizen of the state and also to explain our predicament to him at that moment.”

“As refugees in Army Barrack Onitsha, we took him from the barrack round to the affected areas of the crisis such as Bida Road central to see some houses burnt within the area, and then to Oba of Yoruba house and palace that was razed down along sokoto and Ifejika streets,then down to bridge head market by the express, where all Northern markets were burnt down.”

“There alone, more than 100 lives were lost and properties worth billions destroyed. The following businesses were destroyed and burnt completely: Goat Market (Northerners); Kola market (which comprised of North & Western interest); Beans and Rice Market (Northerners); Onions Market (Northerners); Vegetables oils (Northerners); Arewa parks which comprises of Maiduguri, Bauchi, Gombe, Sokoto ,Yola, Kano, Mubi and many Northern states; Osogbo park (Yorubas).”

“But to our greatest surprise, the first thing that came out of PObi’s mouth was “you people should tell your people to also stop killing our people in the North” It was like a bomb! Everyone was shocked �”

“We couldn’t believe a whole Chief Executive Officer of a state who should be for everybody, a “Governor so to say could utter such a disgusting and an intolerant statement in the public! We all were disappointed and dispersed without even murmuring a word. Peter Obi sent a chill down our spines!”

“The rest was history; Peter Obi didn’t even feel any pity for the lives lost nor the properties destroyed, not to talk of giving out any form of relief materials or compensation of any sort to the biggest community of settlers in the state.”

He also recounted Peter Obi’s controversial residential policies as Governor, policies believed to be targeted at non-indigenes of the state, particularly northerners who were evicted in droves.

“Secondly, at a point in his Administration, Peter Obi decided to eject and takeover those markets mentioned earlier from the Northerners. These are markets which the Northerners had been in possession since 1974 when they were relocated from Ochanja market by the then military government.”

“The Hausa community, thereby, rejected his moves to take them over without any provision or replacement for their original place of business. To our surprise, Gov P. Obi ordered the deployment of Military men, who invaded the market and took no prisoners. They shot and killed 7 (Seven) innocent market men among the protesters.”

“It’s not easy to suddenly lose our places of income and source of living without any replacement. So, we petitioned the matter to the office of the Sultan of Sokoto who in response sent 2 Emirs, that of Suleja & the Etsu of Nupe, to appease him, but even all that brought no fruitful solution. The governor stood his ground and refused to provide an alternative land for the Markets.”

“Eventually, his Eminence, the Sultan of Sokoto, had to visit the governor to beg on our behalf solely for him to provide another place for the continuation of our businesses, but ‘the almighty’ Peter Obi refused to change position all because we are NORTHERNERS not IGBOS.”

“Because we are Northerners, Obi felt we didn’t deserve a land for our businesses in Anambra State. In fact, in one of our meeting with him he openly said to us and I quote,”you people are foreigners here, therefore you have no right to our land”- a clear case of an intolerant leader.”

“Obi’s discrimination & hatred to us clearly defined him as a bigot to the core. Peter Obi forgot that a day like today will come when he will need northerners for his political ambition, he forgot that there are over a Million Igbos of Anambra state origin who are scattered all over the North living comfortably with their families & businesses.”

“So, for Obi’s insensitivity and high-handedness, all the traders relocated to Asaba with their families and businesses. NOW TELL ME, How would Peter Obi treat Northerners if he is elected the President of Nigeria?”

Malam Umar Dan Kano also cited several instances of unfair treatment and blatant discrimination aimed at the northern residents of the state, including forceful and illegal evictions, denial of state opportunities, and other exclusionary practices.

He concluded that “in view of all the above Peter Obi’s divisive kind of leadership and his unprovoked notorious actions against the North and Northerners, I make bold to say that he is not worthy of a single VOTE from any patriotic Northerner (‘Yan Arewa) and Westerners (Yorubas). Obi is an extremely ethnic bigot and a personality very dangerous to be trusted with the highest office of the land.”

BeanmanX:
Since dJ cuppy became a fan of dis club, they hv been losing ever since,,,she brought her badluck to ManU,,

You too noticed? See as our fortunes at Arsenal turned once she left!!

crowther15:
Were at the 3 by 3 km new auditorium? People went Mad when Obi was mentioned yesterday night. I shout non stop.

The madness that will overcome them in 2023 when he loses won’t have part 2!

byrron:
Read again and again and you will come to the realization that my comment of Fergie not having a groomed successor with same philosophy instilled in manU was one of the problems and not the only problems.

Wenger failed to do same too and also failed to leave the stage when he started faltering as a coach.

The decline of a team is multifaceted and picking up one observation as the only thing that led to the decline of a team is definitely not the whole piece but just one piece of the issue and that's what I want everyone quoting me to understand without quoting me out of context.

Bobo, we can’t be going back and forth or going round in circles. You either groom a successor or you appoint one. No one grooms a successor, even you cannot name 1, usually they leave to manage another club (as many assistant managers did at Manu). Look what happened to Arteta.. he got an opportunity at Arsenal and he left. The best you can do is appoint your successor which he did in Moyes. If the fans and the hierarchy were not patient that is not on him. Fans have ruined the careers of many good or up and coming managers at Manu because of their impatience.

You sacked a good manager in Moyes what did you achieve, rinse and repeat with every manager that came to Manu. Manchester United’s is a toxic job for managers because it is a reputation killer. It’s not the managers, the last trophy you won was under Mourinho, you said he wasn’t good enough. He has gone on to gone on to lift trophies.

Your problem is not your managers, your problem is the culture at the club from top to bottom. Anyone that goes there……good managers and good players fail!!!!!! Trust me I know, I am an Arsenal fan. You can start with your idiotic pundits like Gary Neville! He is part of your problem imagine saying we don’t want Conte!!!!!! That’s part of your problem!!!

You appoint a good manager and you give him full control and you wait 3-4 years there is no other way. The longer you wait to adopt that formula the longer you spend in oblivion.

Finally to end this debate about grooming once and for all… any asssistant manager willing to be assistant long enough is probably not ambitious or good enough because it doesn’t take long to learn the basics after which you need to test yourself. If you are content being groomed waiting for Fergie or Wenger to retire, you are not a manager e.g Steve Bould at Arsenal. So banish this idea that somebody is there being groomed. He is either someone who wants your job who is likely to be treacherous or someone who is not good enough to be manager. No good manager is sitting around as a no2 forever waiting to be manager, that’s why you cannot mention any manager that was groomed. You learn and you leave to groom yourself!!!!! Why hast Darren Fletcher taken over, them never groom am reach?

Jokerman:
That means no coach as ever groomed anyone then?

You tell me

Jokerman:
Sir Bryan Robson- Jose Mourinho

Jose Mourinho- Andre Boas and Rui Faria

Ancellotti- Zidane

Robson did not groom Mourinho, Morinho never managed barcelona.

Ancelotti was sacked at Madrid
Dont even mention Mourinho he never groomed anyone. They just happenned to be assistant managers. Grooming means you are preparing them to take over from you.

posters that Obidients will tear down,

byrron:
No current top manager have been in a club for those number of years like Fergie and I'm not here to compare other coaches that haven't been in a club for as long as Fergie since that will be a false equivalence with zero basis for comparison.

I'm struggling to even understand your views because the impression I'm getting from you is that grooming a successor is a bad thing and not necessary.
If these are your views then you're very much entitled to such views but they're not universal views, therefore are very insignificant.

Tell me one coach that have been in a club for that long as Fergie and let's make those comparisons since that's the route you want to take the conversation to and I will be waiting as well?

Wenger was in the job, where was his successor? you cant on the one hand say he failed to groom a successor then say it is unusual for a manager to be in a job that long so you have no examples.. make up your mind. Bottom line is he hand picked his successor ..what else do you want!!!! How many managers and players do you want to have to realise that the problem goes beyond the manager or players?

As an Arsenal fan, I can tell you manu were already on the decline even before Fergie left, but such is Fergie's managerial skills that he was able to squeeze 1 last glory out of a team that was already going down in quality. I think he knew it that was why he quit on a high, unlike Wenger who couldnt read the tea leaves and waited to be sacked.

byrron:
For Heaven sake, Ferguson was a coach in one club for more than 20 years and that is the expectations in every establishment since I work in one, don't know about you.

I asked you to mention 1 top manager who groomed his successor!

I am waiting

inoki247:
Good....


Na dat Akeredolu own i no understand u dey colet oil money still owing salary unless say dat one too na fake news....

I am shocked he is among those owing salaries

byrron:
Read my comment again and you will see that I stated that the exit of Ferguson without grooming a successor was one of the problems of ManU and not the only problems of ManU.

Ferguson recommended Moyes as his successor but Moyes wasn't mentored nor groomed by Ferguson.

Moyes came with his own ideology and philosophy which was in sharp contrast with what has been installed in ManU by Ferguson for decades, therefore a total capitulation was inevitable.

Ferguson knew the type of players that will be the right fit for the expectations at ManU and his recruitments did delivered..

Who grooms a successor, please name 1 top manager that groomed his successor. He appointed who he felt was the right man to succeed him and going by his success at west ham and previously at Everton, he certainly would have done better if given time but the club and the fans pushed him out.

byrron:
This is what happens in life when a successful person fails to mentor anyone that can succeed them when they're gone.

The exit of Alex Ferguson without a having a mentee after spending decades in the dug out at ManU remains one of the problems plaguing ManU till date.

No he had plenty of mentees, he even appointed his own successor in Moyes. The problem with manu is they felt they were bigger than Moyes and they didnt give him a chance, same thing with Jose (how can you be bigger than Jose?)


The other problem with Manu has been their recruitment, they seem to think the way to success was to buy the most expensive players, assuming the more money they spend the better the player will be for them except there are a lot of expensive shit players on the market these days like Maguire. See how they outbid Arsenal for martinez, how do you spend 55m for a 5foot 9 centreback when your other centreback is a liability? Arsenal wanted him as a left back and were not prepared to pay more than 35m. They have made a lot of expensive mistakes, like Sanchez, Pogba, maguire etc etc.

Ladies and gentlemen, football lovers all over the world we now officially have a new banter team!!!

Osama2478:
Nairalanders,

Please I need you to help me have a third eye into a personal matter. Although, I have taken a position, I just wanted to be sure I never overreacted.

I am a guy based in Europe and my wife is in Nigeria. I have only been away for a year.

There was a day I was calling my wife on phone and her other phone was ringing which I asked her to pick up but she never did only to say that it was my friend calling her. I was surprised and asked her immediately how did my friend get know her other number. She gave some not-so-convincing explanation but I let it slide.

Curiously, when I returned to Nigeria, I discovered that this friend sent money to her and she never told me about it. The so called friend also didn't tell me anything. In fact, he has always acted as if he wasn't having any contact with my wife.

When I saw the transaction, my wife wanted to manipulate the situation to make it look like I was invading her privacy. I stood my ground to know what purpose the money was meant for but no reasonable explanation.

I called the friend too to know what the money was meant for but only retorted if he couldn't give my wife money as a friend. He couldn't offer any reasonable explanation. With high sense of modesty, this is a guy that would wish to be in my position economic wise and I have always been very generous to my wife when it comes to money. Therefore, financial lack could not be an excuse.

After this experience, I severe my friendship with the guy and rein in on my wife too. I felt that was not the kind of friendship any reasonable person should keep because I felt betrayed by his actions and inactions in relating with my wife behind me. I also see both of them (friend and wife) to be dangerous to my well-being.

Please I will like to know if I overreacted.

Thank you.

MOD please take it to front page for wider views and opinions

95% of women cannot be left alone and remain faithful. Thats a fact!!!! odds are your wife is not among the 5%


...and thats all you need to know!!!!

Biodun556:
https://leadership.ng/peter-obi-not-ready-to-be-president-ajulo/

Obi supporters are too blinded by tribal sentiments and frustration at the situation to see that the man is a charlatan and that the man is a recipe for disaster !!! Been saying it for ages!!!

I also mentioned in a previous post that I was told that as far as the powers that be in the North are concerned Obi is a no no, hence his choice of VP.

popez:
Atiku doesn't have a base! And Peter Gregory Obi is your next President.

President of Biafra or Singapore?

mployer:
Same way PDP lost in Osun?

Go sidon one way place.

Using dollar to buy less than 2,000 voters in primary election isn't politics.


Come and buy over 60m registered voters in Nigeria with youth majority let me see.

Nobody burnt Osun down because they lost election. We know you people!!! When you lose in 2023 dont burn the country down.

mployer:
And where is Tinubu base? Northern Nigeria?

Tinubu that is still trying to convince Southwest to vote him.

Jungle go soon mature!!! Just don’t burn the country down in February when you lose!!!!

[quote author=SHINJA post=115661848][/quote]typical of Obi and his supporters merchants of lies

All these videos show is that Atiku cannot win because Obi has split his base. Peter Obi will come 3rd!